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Re: some more help

 

What I said in my previous message is true for desktops and not
laptops. For laptops one has to push in the drawer manually.
Nevzat

On 7/30/17, Nevzat Adil <nevzatadil@...> wrote:
No need to push the drawer manually; just press the button right below
the disk drawer and it will close by itself.
Nevzat

On 7/30/17, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@...> wrote:
Hi Sakina,


In all of my years of being around these things and that's plenty of them
grins, to my knowledge, there has never been a command for closing a
CD-Rom
drive with a shortcut key. It's one of those things that you just have to
do
by hand.


Tony



On 7/30/2017 10:19 AM, Sakina wrote:
Hello Nasreen,
Your guidance below worked for me very well.
use press application key when your external drive is focused and find
eject
and press enter!
I am wondering if there is any keyboard commands that will close the CD
draw
after the disc is being ejected and removed.
I am manually pushing the draw to close.
Any help from any member will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you all again and with many regards
Sakina








Re: some more help

 

No need to push the drawer manually; just press the button right below
the disk drawer and it will close by itself.
Nevzat

On 7/30/17, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@...> wrote:
Hi Sakina,


In all of my years of being around these things and that's plenty of them
grins, to my knowledge, there has never been a command for closing a CD-Rom
drive with a shortcut key. It's one of those things that you just have to do
by hand.


Tony



On 7/30/2017 10:19 AM, Sakina wrote:
Hello Nasreen,
Your guidance below worked for me very well.
use press application key when your external drive is focused and find eject
and press enter!
I am wondering if there is any keyboard commands that will close the CD draw
after the disc is being ejected and removed.
I am manually pushing the draw to close.
Any help from any member will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you all again and with many regards
Sakina








Re: Problem with Edge

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


If you are going to do something that intense, it may be best to call
the Microsoft disability center and have them help you with it. Registry
editing can get rather sticky and you need to be careful in there.
Personally, I will say that I have done it a few times but not without
loads of trepidation. To contact the Microsoft folks call 800 936-5900
for guidance with this one.


Tony

On 7/29/2017 6:05 AM, Lee Jones wrote:
Dear List, I want to use NVDA with edge on windows ten home but it just keeps telling me that it can’t open the app. I have read online that you can’t access edge from a built in administrator account. It won’t let me create another account to sign in with. I think the only way to do it is to edit the registry. This is a daunting prospect. Could some kind soul explain how you edit the registery with NVDA so that edge will open.

Many Thanks, Lee


Re: some more help

Jacques <lists4js@...>
 

There is a utility called Door Control that will do it. Below is a short description, followed by the URL from where to download it. The utility also works under Windows 10.

When using the computer on a daily basis, we often have to open and close the DVD drive door. However, this can be a bit of a hassle if the computer case is be under the table or if we have a laptop with the awkward side DVD drive door.
The Door Control software will help you resolve these issues. The software shows the button for opening and closing the DVD drive door in the system menu. A single click will open or close the DVD drive door. You may also assign a hotkey for this function. In comparison with similar software, Door Control uses a special algorithm to recognise whether the doors are open or closed. A single click is enough to open or close the DVD drive door.
The user may customise the colour of the button, assign a hotkey and launch the software at system start-up. The Door Control software is very small and uses a very small amount of RAM for its operation.

Download link:
http://www.digola.com/setupdoorcontrol.zip

On 30/07/2017 16:40, Tony Ballou wrote:
Hi Sakina,
In all of my years of being around these things and that's plenty of them grins, to my knowledge, there has never been a command for closing a CD-Rom drive with a shortcut key. It's one of those things that you just have to do by hand.
Tony
On 7/30/2017 10:19 AM, Sakina wrote:

Hello Nasreen,

Your guidance below worked for me very well.

use press application key when your external drive is focused and find eject and press enter!

I am wondering if there is any keyboard commands that will close the CD draw after the disc is being ejected and removed.

I am manually pushing the draw to close.

Any help from any member will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you all again and with many regards

Sakina



Re: some more help

Gene
 

Doesn't the computer have a button somewhere around or maybe on the cd drawer?  The button opens the drawer and closes it.  I haven't seen or heard of a computer without such a button and I assume it is standard.  You don't have to eject a cd using a command from the computer keyboard. 
 
I'm not sure these days, in versions of Windows later than XP if you should still use safely eject hardware.  But when dealing with a cd, whose content can't be changed in any way by ejecting it, you can just use the button somewhere around the cd drawer.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Sakina
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 9:19 AM
Subject: [nvda] some more help

Hello Nasreen,

Your guidance below worked for me very well.

use press application key when your external drive is focused and find eject and press enter!

I am wondering if there is any keyboard commands that will close the CD draw after the disc is being ejected and removed.

I am manually pushing the draw to close.

Any help from any member will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you all again and with many regards

Sakina

 

 

 




Re: Document Scanner

Gene
 

I'm not sure what you mean by "Kurzweil can otimize the scanning configurations..."  If you are talking about the feature you can run that takes a sample of the page and uses what it thinks are the best settings, I did a few tests with it years ago and consistently found that just using the defaults is better.  And when scanning a book, often, in my experience, a page or part of a page will look different, presumably the contrast changes for some reason.  I therefore always, unless results are poor, use whatever the setting is for automatically setting contrast as you scan.  I don't recall what either Openbook or Kurzweil calls this setting.  As far as I know, the setting is the default in both programs.  I've looked at settings very infrequently for years since I did a good deal of experimentation to see which work the best. 
 
As for Openbook's having the image recognized by more than one OCR engine, I haven't played with it much but the little that I have, I have found the fastest setting to be more accurate than the slower and claimed to be more accurate settings.  My guess is that fastest only uses one OCR engine and slower settings use more than one.  Of course, since company after company dumbs down there products names for things, you can only infer from the performance.  In the old days, you could actually tell Open book what OCR engine or combination to use when that feature became available.  Not any longer.  Now generic meaningless descriptions are used such as slowest, best quality.  Don't assume that any such descriptions are correct.  Test and see.  In my small amount of testing with books, I find the Openbook descriptions to be inaccurate.  That's not to say that there are no occasions when they describe what happens in terms of accuracy, I don't know.  I'm only saying that in what I would say are more or less typical scanning conditions, scanning a few test pages from different books that are probably of typical scanning difficulty, I invariably found the fastest setting which is claimed to be least accurate to be most accurate.  Perhaps this is another illustration of the saying "Too many cooks spoil the broth." 
 
I question whether Kurzweil and Openbook provide better recognition than Fine Reader.  I don't know how current versions of Fine Reader are set up but the version I got bundled many years ago with my scanner, had a setting for what I'm describing as automatic contrast.  Not the setting where it scans part of a page, then infers the best settings to use and then scans the entire page, but a different setting.  Again, as with Kurzweil, I found this setting to work much better than the setting I described with part of a page being scanned each time and scanning settings being inferred.  That is the rough equivalent of the Kurzweil setting I described at the start of my message.
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Document Scanner

Both produce better results, due to some enhancements and configurations
made.
Kurzweil can otimize the scanning configurations and Openbook can use the
best of each OCR's to provide a otimal result...

But, forgeting all technical stuff, both provide a interface very easy to
use, allowing everybody to press a key and start listening the document...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Rob
Data: 30 de julho de 2017 11:18
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Document Scanner

Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> I'm very skeptical that Kurzweil; or Openbook provide either better
> recognition or recognition that is better enough to pay those exhorbitant
> prices for.

Kurzweil uses fine reader as its OCR engine, anyway. What you gain is better
fine tuning of the OCR process. With the commercial version of FR, this is
done by drawing blocks around the image portion, highlighting and enhancing.
In Kurzweil, you can do this by using its optimize scanning features, which
can be useful for old documents and blurry print.

 




Re: some more help

Tony Ballou
 

Hi Sakina,


In all of my years of being around these things and that's plenty of them grins, to my knowledge, there has never been a command for closing a CD-Rom drive with a shortcut key. It's one of those things that you just have to do by hand. 


Tony




On 7/30/2017 10:19 AM, Sakina wrote:

Hello Nasreen,

Your guidance below worked for me very well.

use press application key when your external drive is focused and find eject and press enter!

I am wondering if there is any keyboard commands that will close the CD draw after the disc is being ejected and removed.

I am manually pushing the draw to close.

Any help from any member will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you all again and with many regards

Sakina

 

 

 





some more help

Sakina
 

Hello Nasreen,

Your guidance below worked for me very well.

use press application key when your external drive is focused and find eject and press enter!

I am wondering if there is any keyboard commands that will close the CD draw after the disc is being ejected and removed.

I am manually pushing the draw to close.

Any help from any member will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you all again and with many regards

Sakina

 

 

 




Re: Document Scanner

Rui Fontes
 

Now, you also have KNFB Reader at 100 US$/EUR as a valid option.

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Shaun Everiss
Data: 30 de julho de 2017 10:56
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Document Scanner

Well several choices here.

If this is for personal use, the abbyy fine reader pro cost mee round
200 australian dollars its up to 300 its good for what it does, access
wise I havn't had much luck with edit arieas as well as with its pdf
reading but just about everything else works and you can certainly save.

Omnipage costs at least double that.

There are other options.

1. if you have an old system or know a friend with a copy of abbyy fine
reader sprint then that may be the way to go.

There are limited options but you may be able to get that for little cash.

Finally for the mainstream, if you know someone that has and or uses
dragon naturally speaking or other nuance products its possible that
omnipage may be sold at reduced prices it may be worth a look at least.

Over that if you have cash to burn I'd highly recomend the 3000 dollar
k1000 it was the cream of the crop in my old uni days.

It goes without saying that back in the day, I just got a serial for it
that someone hacked off a computer for me and I used it.

However when I pushed up to win7 from xp school was done and I couldn't
justify the price but if I ever got into the game again, I'd happily buy
it for myself, using omnipage and abbyy the program just rocked and was
rock solid, supporting braille conversion both from text to braille and
vice versa as well as pdf conversion and scanning with good ocr it is
definitely something I'd recomend and even would buy.

I have not looked at the docuscan system as such I am trying to stay as
mainstream as I can.

There is sisero and openbook but I want to avoid vfo stuff just because
I really don't like the direction they are going with their monopoly,
and as for sisero While I do like them to a point have no idea where
dolphin are going either.

As for paperport, as long as it puts out good results all you need to do
is save the results if all that is that.

I almost got rediris which came with my hp scanner but the latest
version has no accessibility which is a pain as its only about 200 for
standard version for 5 units and about 600 bucks for the enterprise
version for unlimited devices I can even get bundled stuff with it.

I hardly need to scan these days though.

On 30/07/2017 11:53 a.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:
I have a brother milti function machine which I purchased for the document feeder.

It came with that Paperport program whic I find unsatisfactory.

I'm not scanning many documents but what I want is accuracy rather than speed.

Andrea


On 30/07/2017 2:04 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
What are your exact needs and what hardware are you using to scan with?

A great many multi-function machines with document feeders come with their own scanning software that interfaces with NVDA quite well.

More detail is necessary.
--
/Brian/- Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063 (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

*//**/The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement./**/ But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another/**/ profound truth./*

*/~ /**/Niels Bohr/*


Re: Document Scanner

Rui Fontes
 

Both produce better results, due to some enhancements and configurations made.
Kurzweil can otimize the scanning configurations and Openbook can use the best of each OCR's to provide a otimal result...

But, forgeting all technical stuff, both provide a interface very easy to use, allowing everybody to press a key and start listening the document...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Rob
Data: 30 de julho de 2017 11:18
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Document Scanner

Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I'm very skeptical that Kurzweil; or Openbook provide either better recognition or recognition that is better enough to pay those exhorbitant prices for.
Kurzweil uses fine reader as its OCR engine, anyway. What you gain is better fine tuning of the OCR process. With the commercial version of FR, this is done by drawing blocks around the image portion, highlighting and enhancing. In Kurzweil, you can do this by using its optimize scanning features, which can be useful for old documents and blurry print.


Re: Document Scanner

Monte Single
 

I do not think pixels in the camera has anything to do with accuracy, after a point. K1000 and openbook, bothe have default resolutions of 300 dpi---dots per inch. I sometimes set the resolution a t 400 dpi when scanning very small texlike six and under. Ocr programs do not use high resolution; programs used to scan pictures and graphics do use much higher resolutions.

Now if I could find a basic tutorial for using FineReader I would be happier.
Thanks,
Monte

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: July-30-17 3:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Document Scanner

Funnily enough, of late I find camera made images ocr better than the
scanned ones do, I guess this might be the pixel definition or something, no
idea.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrea Sherry" <sherryan@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Document Scanner


I have a brother milti function machine which I purchased for the
document feeder.

It came with that Paperport program whic I find unsatisfactory.

I'm not scanning many documents but what I want is accuracy rather than
speed.

Andrea


On 30/07/2017 2:04 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
What are your exact needs and what hardware are you using to scan with?

A great many multi-function machines with document feeders come with
their own scanning software that interfaces with NVDA quite well.

More detail is necessary.
--
/Brian/- Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063 (dot
level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

*//**/The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement./**/
But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another/**/ profound
truth./*

*/~ /**/Niels Bohr/*


Re: Document Scanner

Rob
 

Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I'm very skeptical that Kurzweil; or Openbook provide either better recognition or recognition that is better enough to pay those exhorbitant prices for.
Kurzweil uses fine reader as its OCR engine, anyway. What you gain is better fine tuning of the OCR process. With the commercial version of FR, this is done by drawing blocks around the image portion, highlighting and enhancing. In Kurzweil, you can do this by using its optimize scanning features, which can be useful for old documents and blurry print.


Re: Document Scanner

Gene
 

I'm very skeptical that Kurzweil; or Openbook provide either better recognition or recognition that is better enough to pay those exhorbitant prices for.  There are demos and you can compare them with something like Fine Reader which, as I recall, has a demo as well.
 
You are mainly paying for a lot of features that some people want and you may be paying for more convenient use but to pay something like 1000 U.S. dollars for Openbook or Kurzweil if you don't want those features or what may be more convenient use is really unjustified.  And I really don't think the extra convenience, if any, remotely justifies the extra cost. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 4:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Document Scanner

Well several choices here.

If this is for personal use, the abbyy fine reader pro cost mee round
200 australian dollars its up to 300 its good for what it does, access
wise I havn't had much luck with edit arieas as well as with its pdf
reading but just about everything else works and you can certainly save.

Omnipage costs at least double that.

There are other options.

1.  if you have an old system or know a friend with a copy of abbyy fine
reader sprint then that may be the way to go.

There are limited options but you may be able to get that for little cash.

Finally for the mainstream, if you know someone that has and or uses
dragon naturally speaking or other nuance products its possible that
omnipage may be sold at reduced prices it may be worth a look at least.

Over that if you have cash to burn I'd highly recomend the 3000 dollar
k1000 it was the cream of the crop in my old uni days.

It goes without saying that back in the day, I just got a serial for it
that someone hacked off a computer for me and I used it.

However when I pushed up to win7 from xp school was done and I couldn't
justify the price but if I ever got into the game again, I'd happily buy
it for myself, using omnipage and abbyy the program just rocked and was
rock solid, supporting braille conversion both from text to braille and
vice versa as well as pdf conversion and scanning with good ocr it is
definitely something I'd recomend and even would buy.

I have not looked at the docuscan system as such I am trying to stay as
mainstream as I can.

There is sisero and openbook but I want to avoid vfo stuff just because
I really don't like the direction they are going with their monopoly,
and as for sisero While I do like them to a point have no idea where
dolphin are going either.

As for paperport, as long as it puts out good results all you need to do
is save the results if all that is that.

I almost got rediris which came with my hp scanner but the latest
version has no accessibility which is a pain as its only about 200 for
standard version for 5 units and about 600 bucks for the enterprise
version for unlimited devices I can even get bundled stuff with it.

I hardly need to scan these days though.




On 30/07/2017 11:53 a.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:
> I have a brother milti function machine which I purchased for the
> document feeder.
>
> It came with that Paperport program whic I find unsatisfactory.
>
> I'm not scanning many documents but what I want is accuracy rather
> than speed.
>
> Andrea
>
>
> On 30/07/2017 2:04 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
>> What are your exact needs and what hardware are you using to scan with?
>>
>> A great many multi-function machines with document feeders come with
>> their own scanning software that interfaces with NVDA quite well.
>>
>> More detail is necessary.
>> --
>> /Brian/- Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063 (dot
>> level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)
>>
>> *//**/The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement./**/ 
>> But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another/**/ profound
>> truth./*
>>
>> */~ /**/Niels Bohr/*
>>
>>
>
>




Re: EdgeWave spam filter

 

I'd switch to google myself the cloud spam is usually right.

And if it gets it wrong which it sometimes does training it is easy enough, and if you screw up its usually easy to fix unless you are a real dunce and have done the wrong thing for a while.

If you have done that you will have to do the right thing for a while but there is no harm in misreporting something or reporting something as lagit or otherwise its just checking and unchecking boxes though I have had to make my new accounts view in html its a pitty I can't force google to actually view in basic html like I used to.

On 30/07/2017 1:12 p.m., Don H wrote:
In the middle of switching my Internet and Email provider.

Had issues with dealing with a Spam filter service they apply to their Email servers. The name of the company providing the spam filtering is called EdgeWave. The web page for dealing with what they think is spam doesn't seem to be too screen reader friendly to say the least.

Anyone else delt with this spam filter provider and have any tips to deal with their web page showing blocked messages?

Thanks




.


Re: Document Scanner

 

Well several choices here.

If this is for personal use, the abbyy fine reader pro cost mee round 200 australian dollars its up to 300 its good for what it does, access wise I havn't had much luck with edit arieas as well as with its pdf reading but just about everything else works and you can certainly save.

Omnipage costs at least double that.

There are other options.

1. if you have an old system or know a friend with a copy of abbyy fine reader sprint then that may be the way to go.

There are limited options but you may be able to get that for little cash.

Finally for the mainstream, if you know someone that has and or uses dragon naturally speaking or other nuance products its possible that omnipage may be sold at reduced prices it may be worth a look at least.

Over that if you have cash to burn I'd highly recomend the 3000 dollar k1000 it was the cream of the crop in my old uni days.

It goes without saying that back in the day, I just got a serial for it that someone hacked off a computer for me and I used it.

However when I pushed up to win7 from xp school was done and I couldn't justify the price but if I ever got into the game again, I'd happily buy it for myself, using omnipage and abbyy the program just rocked and was rock solid, supporting braille conversion both from text to braille and vice versa as well as pdf conversion and scanning with good ocr it is definitely something I'd recomend and even would buy.

I have not looked at the docuscan system as such I am trying to stay as mainstream as I can.

There is sisero and openbook but I want to avoid vfo stuff just because I really don't like the direction they are going with their monopoly, and as for sisero While I do like them to a point have no idea where dolphin are going either.

As for paperport, as long as it puts out good results all you need to do is save the results if all that is that.

I almost got rediris which came with my hp scanner but the latest version has no accessibility which is a pain as its only about 200 for standard version for 5 units and about 600 bucks for the enterprise version for unlimited devices I can even get bundled stuff with it.

I hardly need to scan these days though.

On 30/07/2017 11:53 a.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:
I have a brother milti function machine which I purchased for the document feeder.

It came with that Paperport program whic I find unsatisfactory.

I'm not scanning many documents but what I want is accuracy rather than speed.

Andrea


On 30/07/2017 2:04 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
What are your exact needs and what hardware are you using to scan with?

A great many multi-function machines with document feeders come with their own scanning software that interfaces with NVDA quite well.

More detail is necessary.
--
/Brian/- Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063 (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

*//**/The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement./**/ But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another/**/ profound truth./*

*/~ /**/Niels Bohr/*


Re: EdgeWave spam filter

Gene
 

I agree.  I don't know how free services compare in respect to handling spam.  There are services that don't cost much and it might be worth considering such a service.  My e-mail service only offers POP3 but I stay with it because I don't need IMAP and because I don't want to go through the trouble of switching to a free service even if I found one that is free.  I pay five American Dollars a month for my service and I'll probably keep using it as long as it is around.  I really like the peace of mind knowing that I can switch Internet providers if I move or for some other reason and have all the various things I have associated with my e-mail address not change.  I don't have to change registration for services like Spotify, I don't have to inform people that they need to use a new e-mail address for me and I don't have to change e-mail list addresses.  I can also completely manage the spam filter settings online with the provider I'm using. 
 
Does your old provider have an e-mail service you pay for?  the most convenient thing to do, if you want to keep using your old provider, might be to purchase e-mail only service from them. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] EdgeWave spam filter

Hi Don,

I can't help directly with this, except to recommend talking with the company - they may or may not fix it, but at least you can ensure they are aware of the issue.

The other suggestion that I would recommend regardless, is to setup an email address that isn't tied to your ISP.  Whether you use an outlook.com, gmail.com, mail.com, yahoo, or whatever.  If you have an e-mail address that isn't tied to your ISP, then when you change ISPs in future, you don't need to change every other thing that's linked to an email address.  You can usually setup your ISPs email to automatically forward any messages there to your other e-mail address.  If your ISP gives you an email, even if you don't use it for anything else, that's still a good idea, as some ISPs will use that e-mail address to inform you when you are approaching your monthly limit, or when they have planned, upcoming outages etc.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
In the middle of switching my Internet and Email provider.

Had issues with dealing with a Spam filter service they apply to their Email servers.  The name of the company providing the spam filtering is called EdgeWave.  The web page for dealing with what they think is spam doesn't seem to be too screen reader friendly to say the least.

Anyone else delt with this spam filter provider and have any tips to deal with their web page showing blocked messages?

Thanks








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Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

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Re: EdgeWave spam filter

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Don,

I can't help directly with this, except to recommend talking with the company - they may or may not fix it, but at least you can ensure they are aware of the issue.

The other suggestion that I would recommend regardless, is to setup an email address that isn't tied to your ISP.  Whether you use an outlook.com, gmail.com, mail.com, yahoo, or whatever.  If you have an e-mail address that isn't tied to your ISP, then when you change ISPs in future, you don't need to change every other thing that's linked to an email address.  You can usually setup your ISPs email to automatically forward any messages there to your other e-mail address.  If your ISP gives you an email, even if you don't use it for anything else, that's still a good idea, as some ISPs will use that e-mail address to inform you when you are approaching your monthly limit, or when they have planned, upcoming outages etc.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
In the middle of switching my Internet and Email provider.

Had issues with dealing with a Spam filter service they apply to their Email servers.  The name of the company providing the spam filtering is called EdgeWave.  The web page for dealing with what they think is spam doesn't seem to be too screen reader friendly to say the least.

Anyone else delt with this spam filter provider and have any tips to deal with their web page showing blocked messages?

Thanks








--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Document Scanner

Brian's Mail list account
 

Funnily enough, of late I find camera made images ocr better than the scanned ones do, I guess this might be the pixel definition or something, no idea.
Brian

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From: "Andrea Sherry" <sherryan@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Document Scanner


I have a brother milti function machine which I purchased for the
document feeder.

It came with that Paperport program whic I find unsatisfactory.

I'm not scanning many documents but what I want is accuracy rather than
speed.

Andrea


On 30/07/2017 2:04 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
What are your exact needs and what hardware are you using to scan with?

A great many multi-function machines with document feeders come with
their own scanning software that interfaces with NVDA quite well.

More detail is necessary.
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Re: Something like Karen's Replicator for windows 8?

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Never heard of it.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Turner" <meturner2214@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 7:13 PM
Subject: [nvda] Something like Karen's Replicator for windows 8?


Hi folks.

Subject says it all.

It was a really good program, but it doesn't seem to work in windows 8 anymore.



Re: problem solved

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Yes agreed, but the snag is that pop3 has not kept up with the spam systems. Many isps only allow people to look at their spam folder in their webmail interface and many of these are not really good to get at with a screenreader, still. In some, like Virgin and Gmail and some others you can set up an Imap account to get at this folder in a client, though seldom does this mean you can change spam rules, only retrieve the messages in that folder, Webmail still seems to be the go to place to configure server side rules for spam.
Sadly.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Laz" <laz@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem solved


This happens a lot more than most people realize and leads to all
sorts of unnecessary test messages. One needs to take a look at their
spam folder at least once a month to see what one has missed because
of the stupid spam filters in use these days and mark those messages
as not spam.

Laz

On 7/28/17, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
So with some help from list members I figured out that my new Email
provider was saying Emails from the list were spam and blocking them.
Of course the web page to resolve the issue is real difficult to manage
with a screen reader so I had to get some sighted help from my son.

Thanks to all for the help.






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