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accessible VPN on windows?

 

What options do I have if I want an accessible VPN for windows? I am using NVDA.


Re: Using NVDA for Ebooks and Kindle

Sean Randall <contact@...>
 

Hi,

Kindle books compatible with JAWS will work just as well with NVDA.

The vast majority of eBooks, including Kindle ones, have digital rights management on them. This means that you can't just copy into a text file; the idea is that you only read the file in an approved app, such as Kindle.

You can refund a bought Kindle book with no questions asked if you're unsure about accessibility, so I'd say get the very latest NVDA and Kindle for PC and you're good to go.
S.

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Phone +44 (0) 1905 692280
Or visit My LinkedIn Profile for my blog posts, areas of interest and qualifications at http://UK.LinkedIn.com/in/AccessibleSean

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Fantasy Sports
Sent: Monday 31 July 2017 08:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA for Ebooks and Kindle

Dear Group,

There are many books on Amazon.com that are in Kindle form.

The description says they are only compatible with JAWS.

I'm wondering if reading these books is possible with NVDA?

Are these Kindle books the same thing as Ebooks, and are they
just something you can cut and paste into Notepad or Word?

Thanks for the help.


Re: Document Scanner

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

hi


If you want i can go through the knfb app and show you the different sections. I will just record it and drop box it if you want me to. this is the windows 10 version.


Gene nz



On 8/1/2017 11:17 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

hi jim


I brought the app it is very accessible with nvda with windows 10. it will also let you scan from your scanner it found mine just like that. you can also use the web cam if you have one. Plenty of options to choose from


I got mine when it was 30 kiwi dollars or was it a little bit less.

I thought thought the sale had ended maybe just here in new zealand.

Gene nz

On 8/1/2017 10:50 AM, Jim Pipczak wrote:
Hi,

There is also KNFB reader for windows 10. For the next week or so it is 80 percent off. In Australia I think the price is $29.95 at the moment. Has anyone tried it out?

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Sunday, 30 July 2017 8:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Document Scanner

Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I'm very skeptical that Kurzweil; or Openbook provide either better recognition or recognition that is better enough to pay those exhorbitant prices for.
Kurzweil uses fine reader as its OCR engine, anyway. What you gain is better fine tuning of the OCR process. With the commercial version of FR, this is done by drawing blocks around the image portion, highlighting and enhancing. In Kurzweil, you can do this by using its optimize scanning features, which can be useful for old documents and blurry print.







--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Document Scanner

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

hi jim


I brought the app it is very accessible with nvda with windows 10. it will also let you scan from your scanner it found mine just like that. you can also use the web cam if you have one. Plenty of options to choose from


I got mine when it was 30 kiwi dollars or was it a little bit less.

I thought thought the sale had ended maybe just here in new zealand.

Gene nz

On 8/1/2017 10:50 AM, Jim Pipczak wrote:
Hi,

There is also KNFB reader for windows 10. For the next week or so it is 80 percent off. In Australia I think the price is $29.95 at the moment. Has anyone tried it out?

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Sunday, 30 July 2017 8:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Document Scanner

Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I'm very skeptical that Kurzweil; or Openbook provide either better recognition or recognition that is better enough to pay those exhorbitant prices for.
Kurzweil uses fine reader as its OCR engine, anyway. What you gain is better fine tuning of the OCR process. With the commercial version of FR, this is done by drawing blocks around the image portion, highlighting and enhancing. In Kurzweil, you can do this by using its optimize scanning features, which can be useful for old documents and blurry print.







--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Document Scanner

Jim Pipczak
 

Hi,

There is also KNFB reader for windows 10. For the next week or so it is 80 percent off. In Australia I think the price is $29.95 at the moment. Has anyone tried it out?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Sunday, 30 July 2017 8:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Document Scanner

Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I'm very skeptical that Kurzweil; or Openbook provide either better recognition or recognition that is better enough to pay those exhorbitant prices for.
Kurzweil uses fine reader as its OCR engine, anyway. What you gain is better fine tuning of the OCR process. With the commercial version of FR, this is done by drawing blocks around the image portion, highlighting and enhancing. In Kurzweil, you can do this by using its optimize scanning features, which can be useful for old documents and blurry print.


Sandboxie and NVDA

Kwork
 

How accessible, if at all, is Sandboxie with NVDA. I remember someone saying a few years back that it wasn't, but don't remember who or when. Thanks for any opinions and help.
Travis


Re: Using NVDA for Ebooks and Kindle

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


the following link might help it is for the kindel for pc it needs to be the accessible version. the page to get it from is https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200596280


but you should be abel to get books from plenty of sources and read them but maybe not in this program.


It would depend in which format they are.


Gene nz



On 8/1/2017 7:49 AM, Fantasy Sports wrote:
Dear Group,

There are many books on Amazon.com that are in Kindle form.

The description says they are only compatible with JAWS.

I'm wondering if reading these books is possible with NVDA?

Are these Kindle books the same thing as Ebooks, and are they
just something you can cut and paste into Notepad or Word?

Thanks for the help.





--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Using NVDA for Ebooks and Kindle

Fantasy Sports <fantasylife@...>
 

Dear Group,

There are many books on Amazon.com that are in Kindle form.

The description says they are only compatible with JAWS.

I'm wondering if reading these books is possible with NVDA?

Are these Kindle books the same thing as Ebooks, and are they
just something you can cut and paste into Notepad or Word?

Thanks for the help.


Re: Weather Plus Feature Request: More Fine Tuning

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Dennis,

Here's the link for braille weather underground if you don't have it.

http://braille.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?brand=braill
e&query=90631

Hope this helps.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 8:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather Plus Feature Request: More Fine Tuning

I would like to have the option to use weather underground as a source to
get the weather from.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 9:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weather Plus Feature Request: More Fine Tuning

I would like to see various pieces of information as their own check box
rather than putting it all under one category. Temperature, perceived
temperature, Barometric pressure, visibility, humidity should all be their
own check boxes.
This would allow for greater fine tuning of the weather report. So you could
only here temperature, perceived temperature, wind speed/direction and
humidity if so desired.


Re: Weather Plus Feature Request: More Fine Tuning

Adriano Barbieri
 

Hi,

soon there will be an update, but Certainly will added in the future.
Thanks

Cheers
Adriano

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob" <captinlogic@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [nvda] Weather Plus Feature Request: More Fine Tuning


I would like to see various pieces of information as their own check box rather than putting it all under one category. Temperature, perceived temperature, Barometric pressure, visibility, humidity should all be their own check boxes.
This would allow for greater fine tuning of the weather report. So you could only here temperature, perceived temperature, wind speed/direction and humidity if so desired.


Project Contact Lenses: almost done with August edition of add-on development guide

 

Dear NVDA community,

 

I’m delighted to announce the publication of August 2017 edition of NVDA Add-on Development Guide. Highlights include two new appendices and the correct link for NVDA Core development guide.

 

The add-on guide can be found at:

https://github.com/nvdaaddons/DevGuide/wiki/NVDA-Add-on-Development-Guide

 

The new appendices are:

  • Appendix C: comparing various add-on types, a table that compares global plugins, app modules and drivers.
  • Appendix D: notes and references for scripters of other screen readers, a table containing over sixty tasks that scripts may contain that can be done with NVDA.

 

For new community members: In May 2017, VFO (Vector Freedom Optelec) announced end of sales for Window=Eyes and offered users a chance to migrate to JAWS 18 for free or reduced costs. However, some users decided to take the opportunity to switch to NVDA, thus Gene Asner wrote the transition guide from Window-Eyes to NVDA. For the NVDA add-ons community, knowing that Window-Eyes had a great scripting system and popular scripts (called apps in Window-Eyes world) were written for it, it was felt that a way to help Window-Eyes scripters to transition to NVDA add-ons world as smoothly as possible. Thus Project Contact Lenses was announced in June 2017 in order to provide a route for scripters of other screen readers to transform their scripts into NVDA add-ons, and part of this involved editing the NVDA Add-on Development Guide to provide relevant info for them.

 

Regarding the overall progress of this project: I’m happy to announce that the project is almost done. With the publication of August 2017 version of add-on development guide that includes various tables to help scripters transition to NVDA add-ons community, there are just two more things to be done: a meeting with scripters of other screen readers, and seeing some scripts coming to the community add-ons website once transformed. The first task will be in the form of a hands-on lab during 2017 NVDA Add-ons Festival, and at that meeting, I’ll be challenging scripters to give add-on writing a try.

 

Regarding Add-on Development Guide: as the author of this guide, I would like to receive feedback, particularly from people coming from other screen readers, especially from scripters to make sure the information is accurate. I’d like to receive feedback from scripters in regards to appendix D – what should be added, changed, removed and what not.

 

Thanks to everyone who have provided valuable feedback regarding Project Contact Lenses. I hope that users and scripters of other screen readers would find the updated guide helpful as they transition to NVDA.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA IS SLUGGISH

 

I use variant none whıch is much more responsive than other voices.

On 7/31/17, Heaven Botma <heaven@training-kaleidoscopesa.org> wrote:
Dear group



I have NVDA 2017.2, Windows 10, the Creators' Update and MS Office 2010 on
my laptop. I have recently been experiencing the following problems:



When I type, NVDA has a lag. I have completed typing a word and NVDA is
still spelling the word I have already typed. This happens on the
iinternet, in MS office or wherever I am.



The other problem is that when I try to open icons on the the desktop, or
on
the internet, NVDA is late in announcing things, so I enter on the wrong
icon since the cursor is already on an icon ahead of the one NVDA
announces.
Eg: I have 3 icons starting with "t" on the desktop, "TW Blue", "Tap In
Radio" and "This PC". NVDA will announce "This PC" but the cursor is on
"TW
Blue", therefore I open the wrong thing.



I am using Speeech player in e-speak's Edward voice as the synthesiser.



What can I do to solve this?



Kind regards






NVDA IS SLUGGISH

Heaven Botma <heaven@...>
 

Dear group

 

I have NVDA 2017.2, Windows 10, the Creators’ Update and MS Office 2010 on my laptop.  I have recently been experiencing the following problems:

 

When I type, NVDA has a lag. I have completed typing a word and NVDA is still spelling the word I have already typed.  This happens on the iinternet, in MS office or wherever I am.

 

The other problem is that when I try to open icons on the the desktop, or on the internet, NVDA is late in announcing things, so I enter on the wrong icon since the cursor is already on an icon ahead of the one NVDA announces.  Eg:  I have 3 icons starting with “t” on the desktop, “TW Blue”, “Tap In Radio” and “This PC”.  NVDA will announce “This PC” but the cursor is on “TW Blue”, therefore I open the wrong thing. 

 

I am using Speeech player in e-speak’s Edward voice as the synthesiser.

 

What can I do to solve this?

 

Kind regards

 

 


Re: Weather Plus Feature Request: More Fine Tuning

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

I would like to have the option to use weather underground as a source to
get the weather from.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 9:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weather Plus Feature Request: More Fine Tuning

I would like to see various pieces of information as their own check box
rather than putting it all under one category. Temperature, perceived
temperature, Barometric pressure, visibility, humidity should all be their
own check boxes.
This would allow for greater fine tuning of the weather report. So you could
only here temperature, perceived temperature, wind speed/direction and
humidity if so desired.


Re: multiple links on one line

 

hi.
also you can press nvda+n then p for preferences, find brows mode,
press space to uncheck use screen layout when supported and press okay
to confirm your setting.

On 7/31/17, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:
Thanks that is just what I was looking for.


On 7/30/2017 2:39 PM, Gene wrote:
Use NVDA key v when on a web page to turn use screen layout off. The
command toggles between on and off. Off causes all links to be read
on separate lines. This should be the default and it probably causes a
lot of unnecessary confusion among new users that it isn't.
After you change this setting, use NVDA key control c to make sure the
setting is saved. The default is for NVDA to save changes on exit but
I don't know if you have changed the setting and the command I gave
will save the setting.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Don H <mailto:lmddh50@adams.net>
*Sent:* Sunday, July 30, 2017 2:33 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] multiple links on one line

Keep in mind that I am in the middle of trying to learn NVDA and Jaws at
the same time. I am using NVDA as my primary screen reader replacing
Window Eyes which I used for twenty years.

On some web pages I am finding links that are bunched together on one
line. Is there a way to get NVDA to read a web page as if each link is
on a separate line?

Thanks




--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: some more help

 

hi sakina.
i am very glad that my guidance was helpful for you!
for cd dvd, i do the same which i do for ejecting flash.
use press application key when my external drive is focused and find
eject and press enter.
and i think that windows+b or for addons users nvda+f11 should works.
i am realy very glad to recieved your message and could help you.
also my real name is zahra.
i wish that all people call my real name.

On 7/31/17, Arlene <nedster66@gmail.com> wrote:
Moast computers have a cd button you hit the ddrive opens by itself. Once
gently hit. It closes by itself.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Ballou
Sent: July-30-17 7:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] some more help



Hi Sakina,



In all of my years of being around these things and that's plenty of them
grins, to my knowledge, there has never been a command for closing a CD-Rom
drive with a shortcut key. It's one of those things that you just have to
do
by hand.



Tony







On 7/30/2017 10:19 AM, Sakina wrote:

Hello Nasreen,

Your guidance below worked for me very well.

use press application key when your external drive is focused and find
eject
and press enter!

I am wondering if there is any keyboard commands that will close the CD
draw
after the disc is being ejected and removed.

I am manually pushing the draw to close.

Any help from any member will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you all again and with many regards

Sakina













--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Weather Plus Feature Request: More Fine Tuning

Rob
 

I would like to see various pieces of information as their own check box rather than putting it all under one category. Temperature, perceived temperature, Barometric pressure, visibility, humidity should all be their own check boxes.
This would allow for greater fine tuning of the weather report. So you could only here temperature, perceived temperature, wind speed/direction and humidity if so desired.


Re: Document Scanner

 

I will second Gene's observation that I often see worse OCR results when I use a "high accuracy" setting than I do with a medium or low.  And the reason for this, I believe, is that "high accuracy" settings involve rejection of anything "questionable" while lower accuracy settings accept it.  When you're talking about printed material being scanned in the first place, allowing for "low accuracy" will get you maximal recognition of what's there, and what has to be at least reasonably clear to begin with.

I've seen OCR work what I almost feel are miracles on some awful "10th generation" scans of original documents that are not all that easy to read from the start.

I also haven't seen all that much difference in accuracy when the original material being scanned is very clean to begin with.  But, if you want the ability to mask off parts of pages (e.g. title line and page numbers at the top or footnotes at the bottom) you'll have to use specialty software if you're using a document feeder as it's impossible to create a mask under that circumstance.

--
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     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

            Niels Bohr

 

 


Re: some more help

Arlene
 

Moast computers have a cd button you hit the ddrive opens by itself. Once gently hit. It closes by itself. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Ballou
Sent: July-30-17 7:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] some more help

 

Hi Sakina,

 

In all of my years of being around these things and that's plenty of them grins, to my knowledge, there has never been a command for closing a CD-Rom drive with a shortcut key. It's one of those things that you just have to do by hand. 

 

Tony

 

 

 

On 7/30/2017 10:19 AM, Sakina wrote:

Hello Nasreen,

Your guidance below worked for me very well.

use press application key when your external drive is focused and find eject and press enter!

I am wondering if there is any keyboard commands that will close the CD draw after the disc is being ejected and removed.

I am manually pushing the draw to close.

Any help from any member will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you all again and with many regards

Sakina

 

 

 

 

 


Re: multiple links on one line

Don H
 

Thanks that is just what I was looking for.


On 7/30/2017 2:39 PM, Gene wrote:
Use NVDA key v when on a web page to turn use screen layout off.  The command toggles between on and off.  Off causes all links to be read on separate lines.  This should be the default and it probably causes a lot of unnecessary confusion among new users that it isn't. 
 
After you change this setting, use NVDA key control c to make sure the setting is saved.  The default is for NVDA to save changes on exit but I don't know if you have changed the setting and the command I gave will save the setting.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 2:33 PM
Subject: [nvda] multiple links on one line

Keep in mind that I am in the middle of trying to learn NVDA and Jaws at
the same time.  I am using NVDA as my primary screen reader replacing
Window Eyes which I used for twenty years.

On some web pages I am finding links that are bunched together on one
line.  Is there a way to get NVDA to read a web page as if each link is
on a separate line?

Thanks