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Re: new sounds are gone

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

hi


I would rather stay with the older sounds or have the option to add my own.


i did not like the sound of the new ones.


in a funny sort of way the old sound is like the trade mark of nvda.


Gene nz



On 8/2/2017 6:37 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
in the latest NVDA next snapshot the new sounds are gone they put the old sounds back. I liked those new sounds and I hope they keep them for the final 2017.3 and 2017.4 releases.



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Re: Using NVDA for Ebooks and Kindle

Danni
 

I believe it uses a sapi voice for reading the books! you can use NVDA for navigating through the app to get to the books you want to read and open them to read! I use it all the time!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fantasy Sports" <fantasylife@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 12:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA for Ebooks and Kindle


Dear Group,

There are many books on Amazon.com that are in Kindle form.

The description says they are only compatible with JAWS.

I'm wondering if reading these books is possible with NVDA?

Are these Kindle books the same thing as Ebooks, and are they
just something you can cut and paste into Notepad or Word?

Thanks for the help.



Re: New sounds reverted back to old in next

 

Hi,

As for details, I don’t know yet.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien Sykes-Lindley
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 12:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New sounds reverted back to old in next

 

Hi,

Correct me if I am wrong. But aren’t addons loaded after the startup sound and unloaded before the shutdown sound? Or is the addon meant to provide an extended interface for replacing the sounds in the waves folder?

Cheers.
Damien.

 

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 5:41 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] New sounds reverted back to old in next

 

Hi,

NV Access concurs, saying that eventually add-ons should be responsible for doing this in the end.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 9:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New sounds reverted back to old in next

 

Hello. Regarding the new sounds, what I'd personally like to see is the ability to configure them in the Sounds app, just as you can with other apps. In fact, the Window-Eyes screen reader also had its own section in the Sounds app for configuring sounds and this is something I'd love to see eventually in NVDA.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist Feel free to visit my Web site WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 8/1/2017 3:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I notice in the latest snap, apparently reactions to the new sounds were mixed and the intention now is to make them configurable in the long term.

Brian

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Re: New sounds reverted back to old in next

Damien Garwood
 

Hi,
Correct me if I am wrong. But aren’t addons loaded after the startup sound and unloaded before the shutdown sound? Or is the addon meant to provide an extended interface for replacing the sounds in the waves folder?
Cheers.
Damien.
 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New sounds reverted back to old in next
 

Hi,

NV Access concurs, saying that eventually add-ons should be responsible for doing this in the end.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 9:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New sounds reverted back to old in next

 

Hello. Regarding the new sounds, what I'd personally like to see is the ability to configure them in the Sounds app, just as you can with other apps. In fact, the Window-Eyes screen reader also had its own section in the Sounds app for configuring sounds and this is something I'd love to see eventually in NVDA.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist Feel free to visit my Web site WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 8/1/2017 3:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I notice in the latest snap, apparently reactions to the new sounds were mixed and the intention now is to make them configurable in the long term.

Brian

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Re: New sounds reverted back to old in next

Roger Stewart
 

I'll second this!  I'm perfectly happy with the nvda sounds as they are but if it is possible to have other sound packs for it as others might like, this is fine.  But I want to be able to use the original ones if I so choose.

Thanks.

Roger










On 8/1/2017 11:40 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. Regarding the new sounds, what I'd personally like to see is the ability to configure them in the Sounds app, just as you can with other apps. In fact, the Window-Eyes screen reader also had its own section in the Sounds app for configuring sounds and this is something I'd love to see eventually in NVDA.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist Feel free to visit my Web site WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info
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I notice in the latest snap, apparently reactions to the new sounds were mixed and the intention now is to make them configurable in the long term.

Brian

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new sounds are gone

Josh Kennedy
 

in the latest NVDA next snapshot the new sounds are gone they put the old sounds back. I liked those new sounds and I hope they keep them for the final 2017.3 and 2017.4 releases.


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Re: accessible VPN on windows?

 

but don't you have to run open vpn yourself?

On 8/1/2017 2:27 AM, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William wrote:
i use open vpn
or else you can use tor browser



Robert Kingett 於 1/8/2017 7:55 寫道:
What options do I have if I want an accessible VPN for windows? I am using NVDA.




Re: nvda and IE

Gene
 

Someone may have another solution for this specific problem, but keeping what I am going to say in mind will save you time and annoyance in general use.  Just press control or try issuing whatever command you usually issue when a page loads such as move by heading.  Screen-readers, by the complexity of how they interact with Windows and Windows programs, may read unexpected things.  part of being an efficient screen-reader user is manually trying actions that may stop unnecessary verbiage.  For example, when you do a search on an Internet page, the screen-reader may read unnecessary material when it finds something.  Using read currewnt line may stop this reading and cause the line to be read correctly immediately.  Or at times, you may search for something and hearing just what you search for may not be enough.  Pressing read current line will cause the entire line to be read and is more efficient than up and down arrowing to have the line read,  One key stroke instead of two.
 
One of the complaints I repeatedly see about Thunderbird is that the subject line is repeated twice when opening a message and letting it read.  If you already have heard the subject line when arrowing through the list of messages or if you hear it once when you have moved directly from one message to another, simply issue the speak to end command when you have heard what you want or if you want the message body to be read immediately with no headers read.  You may have to experiment with timing to see when you should press the command for good results.  You can press it more than once if the timing you try is not effective. 
 
I use Windows Live Mail and I constantly use read current line in the message list after I delete a message.  I read a message, then delete it.  Iam automatically placed on the next message in the list.  If I don't use read current line, I hear a lot of heading information I don't want along with the unnecessary speakingh of the phrase outlook express message list or something like that.  Read current line causes what I want to hear to be read immediately, who the message is from and if I want to hear the subject line and other information, that is read as well.  I then read the message without waiting for everything else to be read.  If you read mail by opening the message, you can press enter when you want it to open.  Speech will immediately be stopped, as though you had pressed control, and the message will be opened.  I probably save one or two seconds of unnecessary speech on each message in that way.  It becomes second nature to use these commands in these ways if you do so constantly.  I wonder how many people waste time and put up with the annoyance of unnecessary speech because they don't do these things.  This kind of instruction should be a standard part of Windows instructional material.  I havedn't seen such matters taught in any detail. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 8:41 AM
Subject: [nvda] nvda and IE

Running the latest version of NVDA on a Win 10 creator edition.

When I start IE I have NVDA voicing a long line of verbage that seems to
be describing the page in computer code form.  Sighted help says there
is nothing on the screen that resembles what is being spoken.  Is there
a way to stop this info from being spoken?

Thanks





NVDA silence

John Hedges
 

It seems like the silence may happen when switching between Edge and Mail or after using Mail for a while. This is in build 16251, with a longer pause than before.

 

John


Re: Using NVDA for Ebooks and Kindle

David Goldfield
 

The latest version of the Kindle for PC app will work rather nicely with NVDA and, as of now, no accessibility plug-in is needed.

https://www.amazon.com/kindle-dbs/fd/kcp

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist Feel free to visit my Web site WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 8/1/2017 2:33 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I'd imagine you need the accessible version of the Kindle Application to read those unless somebody has hacked the format which is probably illegal.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Fantasy Sports" <fantasylife@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA for Ebooks and Kindle


Dear Group,

There are many books on Amazon.com that are in Kindle form.

The description says they are only compatible with JAWS.

I'm wondering if reading these books is possible with NVDA?

Are these Kindle books the same thing as Ebooks, and are they
just something you can cut and paste into Notepad or Word?

Thanks for the help.










Re: New sounds reverted back to old in next

 

Hi,

NV Access concurs, saying that eventually add-ons should be responsible for doing this in the end.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 9:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New sounds reverted back to old in next

 

Hello. Regarding the new sounds, what I'd personally like to see is the ability to configure them in the Sounds app, just as you can with other apps. In fact, the Window-Eyes screen reader also had its own section in the Sounds app for configuring sounds and this is something I'd love to see eventually in NVDA.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist Feel free to visit my Web site WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 8/1/2017 3:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I notice in the latest snap, apparently reactions to the new sounds were mixed and the intention now is to make them configurable in the long term.

Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
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Re: New sounds reverted back to old in next

David Goldfield
 

Hello. Regarding the new sounds, what I'd personally like to see is the ability to configure them in the Sounds app, just as you can with other apps. In fact, the Window-Eyes screen reader also had its own section in the Sounds app for configuring sounds and this is something I'd love to see eventually in NVDA.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist Feel free to visit my Web site WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 8/1/2017 3:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I notice in the latest snap, apparently reactions to the new sounds were mixed and the intention now is to make them configurable in the long term.

Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
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VarioUltra 40 driver not working

George McDermith - CDLE
 

Greetings all,

 

                I have a VarioUltra 40 and am attempting to load the driver from the Braille menu; however, every time I attempt to load it with the VU plugged into the computer it says the driver could not be downloaded. Am I mistaken to think the VU 40 can run with the latest version of NVDA off of the USB connection? Thanks for any assistance.


Re: Windows 7 shuts down when starting NVDA

Joe Lakey
 

Thanks, all.

It's a company computer, so I can't disable the security software. Until recently, we weren't able to install anything ourselves. A couple of months ago, IT installed a utility that allows us install with elevated privileges. I've installed a couple of other things fine, but I wonder if the issue could be with this installer utility. Our in-house accessibility team suggested I try installing a portable copy on a USB drive, so that's probably my next step.


nvda and IE

Don H
 

Running the latest version of NVDA on a Win 10 creator edition.

When I start IE I have NVDA voicing a long line of verbage that seems to be describing the page in computer code form. Sighted help says there is nothing on the screen that resembles what is being spoken. Is there a way to stop this info from being spoken?

Thanks


Re: multiple links on one line

Tony Ballou
 

Hi Don,


I saw something about this a while ago. and hope this is right. I
think if you go to the preferences section of the nvda menu there's a
checkbox in the browse mode option that when checked will do this. The
checkbox you'll be looking for is the use screen layout when supported
option. Check it and that should do it.


Tony

On 7/30/2017 3:33 PM, Don H wrote:
Keep in mind that I am in the middle of trying to learn NVDA and Jaws
at the same time. I am using NVDA as my primary screen reader
replacing Window Eyes which I used for twenty years.

On some web pages I am finding links that are bunched together on one
line. Is there a way to get NVDA to read a web page as if each link
is on a separate line?

Thanks





Windows 10 Maps Question

Laughing Thunder
 

Does anyone have any ideas regarding this?

Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

From: Laughingthunder <laughingthunder26@...>
Date: July 28, 2017 at 8:39:44 PM CDT
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Windows 10 Maps Question

Hi,


In the Windows 10 App Essentials add-on help, it says "When using street side view and if "use keyboard" option is enabled, NVDA will announce street addresses as you use arrow keys to navigate the map." Where is the use keyboard option? I don't see it in the maps app or the Windows 10 App Essentials preferences. I can get into street side view, but no addresses are announced, so I can only conclude that this feature doesn't work as described.

Thoughts/ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Windows 10 version info:

Edition: Windows 10 Pro

Version: 1607

OS Build: 14393.1358



Re: Weather Plus Feature Request: More Fine Tuning

Adriano Barbieri
 

No, it must be an automatic procedure and accessible to all users, such as API apixu, API openweathermap, etc.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather Plus Feature Request: More Fine Tuning


Try emailing
help@...
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adriano
Barbieri via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 2:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather Plus Feature Request: More Fine Tuning

Hi,
If you can explain to me how to get a free key from API wunderground I do it
willingly.
I tried a lot of times, but after filling out the forms necessary and the
request is sent successfully, I have not heard anything from them.

Cheers
Adriano

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather Plus Feature Request: More Fine Tuning


I would like to have the option to use weather underground as a source to
get the weather from.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 9:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weather Plus Feature Request: More Fine Tuning

I would like to see various pieces of information as their own check box
rather than putting it all under one category. Temperature, perceived
temperature, Barometric pressure, visibility, humidity should all be their
own check boxes.
This would allow for greater fine tuning of the weather report. So you
could
only here temperature, perceived temperature, wind speed/direction and
humidity if so desired.










Re: Weather Plus Feature Request: More Fine Tuning

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Try emailing
help@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adriano
Barbieri via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 2:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather Plus Feature Request: More Fine Tuning

Hi,
If you can explain to me how to get a free key from API wunderground I do it
willingly.
I tried a lot of times, but after filling out the forms necessary and the
request is sent successfully, I have not heard anything from them.

Cheers
Adriano

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather Plus Feature Request: More Fine Tuning


I would like to have the option to use weather underground as a source to
get the weather from.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 9:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weather Plus Feature Request: More Fine Tuning

I would like to see various pieces of information as their own check box
rather than putting it all under one category. Temperature, perceived
temperature, Barometric pressure, visibility, humidity should all be their
own check boxes.
This would allow for greater fine tuning of the weather report. So you
could
only here temperature, perceived temperature, wind speed/direction and
humidity if so desired.






Re: accessible VPN on windows?

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

i use open vpn
or else you can use tor browser



Robert Kingett 於 1/8/2017 7:55 寫道:

What options do I have if I want an accessible VPN for windows? I am using NVDA.