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Re: Suggestion: Switch from Email List to a Forum

Brian's Mail list account
 

You are not being very nice. Please stop insulting us. Had it occurred to you that not everyone is on line all the time?

Also who the heck wants to brows emails on line. I certainly don't and I'm not alone. Can I respectfully suggest we close this topic now?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <chrismedley@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Suggestion: Switch from Email List to a Forum


Maybe the starting of new topics should only be allowed from the web interface,
But keep you can still reply via email


As its blatantly obvious that people are so lazy than rather than opening a web browser and do a quick groups.io or google search in a matter of seconds
They would ratter wait 1 minute, 1 hour even days or forever!
Rather than open a web browser, unbelievable! ūüėÉ


Re: Suggestion: Switch from Email List to a Forum

Chris
 

Maybe the starting of new topics should only be allowed from the web interface,

But keep you can still reply via email

 

 

As its blatantly obvious that people are so lazy than rather than opening a web browser and do a quick groups.io or google search in a matter of seconds

They would ratter wait 1 minute, 1 hour even days or forever!

Rather than open a web browser, unbelievable! ūüėÉ

 

 

 


Re: running nvda in admin mode?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Oh? So I can't make a portable version and run its exe in admin mode?  Hmm interesting. Anyone who has xsplit broadcaster besides myself can you try this and see if this works? I can get the support page where you can submit issues as well. They are very good at answering questions Monday to Friday.

Take care

On Aug 10, 2017, at 4:21 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,
The real copy must be installed in order for it to run in admin mode.
P.S. Won’t respond to other threads at the moment because a fire has erupted in add-ons repositories (see the next post).
Cheers,
Joseph
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 4:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] running nvda in admin mode?
 
No, I want to run my real copy in admin mode then revert, or maybe I can just keep it there for xsplit broadcaster to run correctly, I dunno.. I could use the portalbe copy but  I will have to keep that updated along wiht the snaps I use.
On Aug 10, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
 
Hi,
If I'm reading this thread correctly, what Sarah might be referring to is a way to launch the portable copy of NVDA with admin privileges (UI Access).
To Sarah: whoever is asking you this question, please tell that person that the only "real" way of running NVDA with admin privileges is installing it.
Cheers,
Joseph

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nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Ballou
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 3:00 PM
To: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] running nvda in admin mode?

Hi,


To my knowledge, I don't think so, which is why I've always put the shortcut on the desktop.


Tony


On 8/10/2017 1:11 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I actually don't. Is there a way I can do this from the run dialogue just once then I can revert with  just the normal nvda command? I was going  to ask on the developers list but I seem to have ben removed. I'm using the latest and gratest snap.

Take care

On Aug 10, 2017, at 7:51 AM, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@...> wrote:

Hi,


If you have NVDA on the desktop, place the focus there and hit the
context menu, from there arrow down to the run as administrator option
hit it and when prompted press alt-y.  Should do the trick.


Tony


On 8/9/2017 6:24 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Hello.  Running xsplit and I talked to one of the devs. They got better accessibility when running nvda in admin mode. How do I run nvda as an administrator again? I forgot.

Using windows 10 over here and the latest snap.












 



Re: Accessibility of your products

 

Hi,

Another Windows Forms app? We had mixed results with these, and I do remember someone talking about apps developed via the toolkits mentioned below on GitHub.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

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Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 8:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility of your products

 

Probably best to raise an issue on github and past the message in there. I dount if any fix might make the current new version though as the freeze is in I think. I'm sure somebody will point out why their code is wrong.

 I assume you have tried other screenreders to see what they do?

 Brian


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Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility of your products

 

Hi.

Just wandered if people have had issues accessing menus in applian products, conversion settings for me in converter, issues accessing main menus without mouse, things like that.

Aparently according to applian all access options are being set but in other readers I tried there are a lot of unlabeled things, aparently they say its an nvda issue but I am unsure.

 



-------- Forwarded Message --------

Subject:

Re: Accessibility of your products

Date:

Fri, 11 Aug 2017 22:35:42 +0000 (UTC)

From:

Replay Converter - Windows <support-rcv@...>

Reply-To:

Replay Converter - Windows <support-rcv@...>

To:

sm.everiss@...

 

Hi Shaun, 
   
 I got a few more details for you from the developer of Replay Media Catcher, Replay Music, Replay Converter and Replay Radio. In the case of those apps, he thinks that you might want to raise the issues with NVDA as to why it's not reading what we have set correctly.  Here's what he had to say: 
   
 All of our apps controls have their accessibility features set.  For example here is the code to set the import menu item on the main menu toolbar where you can see the Accessible options of the control being set. 
   
 Infragistics.Win.UltraWinToolbars.ButtonTool importRootButton = new Infragistics.Win.UltraWinToolbars.ButtonTool("import"); 
  importRootButton.SharedProps.Caption = Jaksta.Resources.LanguageManager.Import; 
             importRootButton.SharedProps.AccessibleName = Jaksta.Resources.LanguageManager.Import; 
             importRootButton.SharedProps.AccessibleDescription = Jaksta.Resources.LanguageManager.ImportToolTip; 
             importRootButton.SharedProps.AccessibleRole = AccessibleRole.MenuItem; 
             importRootButton.SharedProps.Shortcut = (System.Windows.Forms.Shortcut)(System.Windows.Forms.Keys.Alt | System.Windows.Forms.Keys.I); 
             importRootButton.SharedProps.AppearancesSmall.Appearance.Image = Jaksta.Resources.Overrides.SkinManager.Menus.ImportImage; 
             importRootButton.ToolClick += importRootButton_ToolClick; 
   
 Note that Windows Narrator reads all these correctly and this is what we test using. 
   
 Kind Regards, 
   
 Debbie McCormick 
 Director and Creative Technologist 
 
 Applian Technologies, Inc. 
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
 Ticket: http://support.applian.com/helpdesk/tickets/61774
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 On Thu, 10 Aug at 6:24 AM
, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
 thanks for getting back, I have had experience where emailing or even  blogging at a big company results in nothing at all.  I heard about your stuff well your video catcher program through friends  that used it.  My main reason I even bothered was that the dvdvideosoft and other  freeware apps had loads of opencandy spyware and while I was able to  handle it for a while eventually interfaces changed and the software  dammaged my system and I had to reformat to clear it and lost a lot of  data, not files but data none the less.  Last year I was able to use the old video converter to convert a few dat  files that I was given of some international music by a driver while I  was on holiday, the quality was fine and I got tones as I went along  with conversion I still had to bother about with the converter to set it  with my mouse which was hard but I got the files done.  As it stands, I usually use online sites to convert the small amount of  youtube videos as well as another free youtube program, however both  have limits to a certain length, one of which is that neither of them  support large videos or in fact videos that need to be playlists or at  least not without crashing the programs, and your stuff does.  While I don't need automatic conversion I like the idea of pasting in a  few playlists or one list and just getting them output to a folder.  The only thing I could suggest is that while processing conversions or  other things that there are tones that go up in pitch as the videos are  processed and a way I can view what the programs are doing.     
 
   On 10/08/2017 12:27 p.m., Replay Converter - Windows wrote: > Hi Shaun, >  > Thanks so much for taking the time to evaluate and detail the accessibility of each of our products. I'm going to personally deliver these to our development team for review. I may contact you again as questions arise. >  > Kind Regards, >  > Debbie McCormick > Director and Creative Technologist >  > Applian Technologies, Inc. >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > Ticket: http://support.applian.com/helpdesk/tickets/61774 >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > On Wed, 9 Aug at 12:04 AM > , Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote: > I have heard about your products from a friend especially the video capture which I use a lot for youtube as the free ones were full of spyware, however I decided a little while ago to buy a friend and myself a copy of your video suite, I am a blind user and to be honest a lot of your programs have accessibility issues. For example while I can access general buttons in all your programs hitting a button say menu for any of your products will bring up a menu but it will then be completely inaccessible. Or for example in replay converter once I click the conversion settings with the keyboard I may be able to tab about to the required settings or I may not, and if I say click formats then its not going to show the list, yes I can do it with the mouse and in media converter 5 I was then able to select mp3 as my format after which the entire thing was straight forward and while I was able to get in the list again with the mouse I then couldn't confirm the choice, it would be better if I could select and control all your apps with standard controls I'd be happy to go over the entire thing with one of your devs as every program has something inaccessible with it, and as an owner I'd really like to have all of these fixed. For refference here are the lists of things. 1. director, accessible web interface, I can use it. 2. telecorder, popps up but the interface is not accessible. It used to be back when I had a 32 bit system but that may have been a version ago. 3. video padlock. interface works with standard menus this is the interface I'd like. just the menus work nothing on the main screen. 4. media splitter, completely accessible, please keep it that way the menus work not sure about other things. 5. replay converter. first tab shows, menu and conversion setting completely inaccessible, can't get settings to work, all other buttons work. 6. replay radio, well bar the menu itself when the button is pressed it appears everything else works. 7. replay music, same as replay radio the menu button when pressed shows a menu but I can't navigate it. 8. video capture, both the wm cap and the video capture windows are completely inaccessible, I can't even get menus to work. 9. replay media catcher. The convertion and main menu buttons while they do work are not accessible when clicked. In addition there is a rather large blank space on the top of the director app, if this space is supposed to contain information I can't read it. I currently use nvda screen reader and win7 64 bit previously I had a 32 bit version of windows 7, and I plan to go to win10 sooner or later. I would really like this stuff fixed, if you want me to run through with someone more on this thing then just ask. As it stands I can't really use your stuff fully with these interfaces as they are though once I have them configured I can use most of the converters. > > > >
 
 
 
 


Re: Accessibility of your products

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Probably best to raise an issue on github and past the message in there. I dount if any fix might make the current new version though as the freeze is in I think. I'm sure somebody will point out why their code is wrong.
 I assume you have tried other screenreders to see what they do?
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----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility of your products

Hi.

Just wandered if people have had issues accessing menus in applian products, conversion settings for me in converter, issues accessing main menus without mouse, things like that.

Aparently according to applian all access options are being set but in other readers I tried there are a lot of unlabeled things, aparently they say its an nvda issue but I am unsure.




-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: Accessibility of your products
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 22:35:42 +0000 (UTC)
From: Replay Converter - Windows <support-rcv@...>
Reply-To: Replay Converter - Windows <support-rcv@...>
To: sm.everiss@...


Hi Shaun, 
   
 I got a few more details for you from the developer of Replay Media Catcher, Replay Music, Replay Converter and Replay Radio. In the case of those apps, he thinks that you might want to raise the issues with NVDA as to why it's not reading what we have set correctly.  Here's what he had to say: 
   
 All of our apps controls have their accessibility features set.  For example here is the code to set the import menu item on the main menu toolbar where you can see the Accessible options of the control being set. 
   
 Infragistics.Win.UltraWinToolbars.ButtonTool importRootButton = new Infragistics.Win.UltraWinToolbars.ButtonTool("import"); 
  importRootButton.SharedProps.Caption = Jaksta.Resources.LanguageManager.Import; 
             importRootButton.SharedProps.AccessibleName = Jaksta.Resources.LanguageManager.Import; 
             importRootButton.SharedProps.AccessibleDescription = Jaksta.Resources.LanguageManager.ImportToolTip; 
             importRootButton.SharedProps.AccessibleRole = AccessibleRole.MenuItem; 
             importRootButton.SharedProps.Shortcut = (System.Windows.Forms.Shortcut)(System.Windows.Forms.Keys.Alt | System.Windows.Forms.Keys.I); 
             importRootButton.SharedProps.AppearancesSmall.Appearance.Image = Jaksta.Resources.Overrides.SkinManager.Menus.ImportImage; 
             importRootButton.ToolClick += importRootButton_ToolClick; 
   
 Note that Windows Narrator reads all these correctly and this is what we test using. 
   
 Kind Regards, 
   
 Debbie McCormick 
 Director and Creative Technologist 
 
 Applian Technologies, Inc. 
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
 Ticket: http://support.applian.com/helpdesk/tickets/61774
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

   
 
 
 
 
 On Thu, 10 Aug at 6:24 AM
, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
 thanks for getting back, I have had experience where emailing or even  blogging at a big company results in nothing at all.  I heard about your stuff well your video catcher program through friends  that used it.  My main reason I even bothered was that the dvdvideosoft and other  freeware apps had loads of opencandy spyware and while I was able to  handle it for a while eventually interfaces changed and the software  dammaged my system and I had to reformat to clear it and lost a lot of  data, not files but data none the less.  Last year I was able to use the old video converter to convert a few dat  files that I was given of some international music by a driver while I  was on holiday, the quality was fine and I got tones as I went along  with conversion I still had to bother about with the converter to set it  with my mouse which was hard but I got the files done.  As it stands, I usually use online sites to convert the small amount of  youtube videos as well as another free youtube program, however both  have limits to a certain length, one of which is that neither of them  support large videos or in fact videos that need to be playlists or at  least not without crashing the programs, and your stuff does.  While I don't need automatic conversion I like the idea of pasting in a  few playlists or one list and just getting them output to a folder.  The only thing I could suggest is that while processing conversions or  other things that there are tones that go up in pitch as the videos are  processed and a way I can view what the programs are doing.     
 
   On 10/08/2017 12:27 p.m., Replay Converter - Windows wrote: > Hi Shaun, >  > Thanks so much for taking the time to evaluate and detail the accessibility of each of our products. I'm going to personally deliver these to our development team for review. I may contact you again as questions arise. >  > Kind Regards, >  > Debbie McCormick > Director and Creative Technologist >  > Applian Technologies, Inc. >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > Ticket: http://support.applian.com/helpdesk/tickets/61774 >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > On Wed, 9 Aug at 12:04 AM > , Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote: > I have heard about your products from a friend especially the video capture which I use a lot for youtube as the free ones were full of spyware, however I decided a little while ago to buy a friend and myself a copy of your video suite, I am a blind user and to be honest a lot of your programs have accessibility issues. For example while I can access general buttons in all your programs hitting a button say menu for any of your products will bring up a menu but it will then be completely inaccessible. Or for example in replay converter once I click the conversion settings with the keyboard I may be able to tab about to the required settings or I may not, and if I say click formats then its not going to show the list, yes I can do it with the mouse and in media converter 5 I was then able to select mp3 as my format after which the entire thing was straight forward and while I was able to get in the list again with the mouse I then couldn't confirm the choice, it would be better if I could select and control all your apps with standard controls I'd be happy to go over the entire thing with one of your devs as every program has something inaccessible with it, and as an owner I'd really like to have all of these fixed. For refference here are the lists of things. 1. director, accessible web interface, I can use it. 2. telecorder, popps up but the interface is not accessible. It used to be back when I had a 32 bit system but that may have been a version ago. 3. video padlock. interface works with standard menus this is the interface I'd like. just the menus work nothing on the main screen. 4. media splitter, completely accessible, please keep it that way the menus work not sure about other things. 5. replay converter. first tab shows, menu and conversion setting completely inaccessible, can't get settings to work, all other buttons work. 6. replay radio, well bar the menu itself when the button is pressed it appears everything else works. 7. replay music, same as replay radio the menu button when pressed shows a menu but I can't navigate it. 8. video capture, both the wm cap and the video capture windows are completely inaccessible, I can't even get menus to work. 9. replay media catcher. The convertion and main menu buttons while they do work are not accessible when clicked. In addition there is a rather large blank space on the top of the director app, if this space is supposed to contain information I can't read it. I currently use nvda screen reader and win7 64 bit previously I had a 32 bit version of windows 7, and I plan to go to win10 sooner or later. I would really like this stuff fixed, if you want me to run through with someone more on this thing then just ask. As it stands I can't really use your stuff fully with these interfaces as they are though once I have them configured I can use most of the converters. > > > >





Re: Suggestion: Switch from Email List to a Forum

 

And, again, this is a complete non-issue.   Groups.io is the only entity I know of that is a hybrid of true e-mail list and true forum in one.  It is your choice to use one interface, the other, or even both occasionally.

I wish more folks would actually search the online archive when they know they've seen something in the past.  You don't even have to log in to do that.
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Re: Accessibility of your products

 

Hi.

Just wandered if people have had issues accessing menus in applian products, conversion settings for me in converter, issues accessing main menus without mouse, things like that.

Aparently according to applian all access options are being set but in other readers I tried there are a lot of unlabeled things, aparently they say its an nvda issue but I am unsure.




-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: Accessibility of your products
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 22:35:42 +0000 (UTC)
From: Replay Converter - Windows <support-rcv@...>
Reply-To: Replay Converter - Windows <support-rcv@...>
To: sm.everiss@...


Hi Shaun, 
   
 I got a few more details for you from the developer of Replay Media Catcher, Replay Music, Replay Converter and Replay Radio. In the case of those apps, he thinks that you might want to raise the issues with NVDA as to why it's not reading what we have set correctly.  Here's what he had to say: 
   
 All of our apps controls have their accessibility features set.  For example here is the code to set the import menu item on the main menu toolbar where you can see the Accessible options of the control being set. 
   
 Infragistics.Win.UltraWinToolbars.ButtonTool importRootButton = new Infragistics.Win.UltraWinToolbars.ButtonTool("import"); 
  importRootButton.SharedProps.Caption = Jaksta.Resources.LanguageManager.Import; 
             importRootButton.SharedProps.AccessibleName = Jaksta.Resources.LanguageManager.Import; 
             importRootButton.SharedProps.AccessibleDescription = Jaksta.Resources.LanguageManager.ImportToolTip; 
             importRootButton.SharedProps.AccessibleRole = AccessibleRole.MenuItem; 
             importRootButton.SharedProps.Shortcut = (System.Windows.Forms.Shortcut)(System.Windows.Forms.Keys.Alt | System.Windows.Forms.Keys.I); 
             importRootButton.SharedProps.AppearancesSmall.Appearance.Image = Jaksta.Resources.Overrides.SkinManager.Menus.ImportImage; 
             importRootButton.ToolClick += importRootButton_ToolClick; 
   
 Note that Windows Narrator reads all these correctly and this is what we test using. 
   
 Kind Regards, 
   
 Debbie McCormick 
 Director and Creative Technologist 
 
 Applian Technologies, Inc. 
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
 Ticket: http://support.applian.com/helpdesk/tickets/61774  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
   
 
 
 
 
 On Thu, 10 Aug at 6:24 AM
, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
 thanks for getting back, I have had experience where emailing or even  blogging at a big company results in nothing at all.  I heard about your stuff well your video catcher program through friends  that used it.  My main reason I even bothered was that the dvdvideosoft and other  freeware apps had loads of opencandy spyware and while I was able to  handle it for a while eventually interfaces changed and the software  dammaged my system and I had to reformat to clear it and lost a lot of  data, not files but data none the less.  Last year I was able to use the old video converter to convert a few dat  files that I was given of some international music by a driver while I  was on holiday, the quality was fine and I got tones as I went along  with conversion I still had to bother about with the converter to set it  with my mouse which was hard but I got the files done.  As it stands, I usually use online sites to convert the small amount of  youtube videos as well as another free youtube program, however both  have limits to a certain length, one of which is that neither of them  support large videos or in fact videos that need to be playlists or at  least not without crashing the programs, and your stuff does.  While I don't need automatic conversion I like the idea of pasting in a  few playlists or one list and just getting them output to a folder.  The only thing I could suggest is that while processing conversions or  other things that there are tones that go up in pitch as the videos are  processed and a way I can view what the programs are doing.     
 
   On 10/08/2017 12:27 p.m., Replay Converter - Windows wrote: > Hi Shaun, >  > Thanks so much for taking the time to evaluate and detail the accessibility of each of our products. I'm going to personally deliver these to our development team for review. I may contact you again as questions arise. >  > Kind Regards, >  > Debbie McCormick > Director and Creative Technologist >  > Applian Technologies, Inc. >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > Ticket: http://support.applian.com/helpdesk/tickets/61774 >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > On Wed, 9 Aug at 12:04 AM > , Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote: > I have heard about your products from a friend especially the video capture which I use a lot for youtube as the free ones were full of spyware, however I decided a little while ago to buy a friend and myself a copy of your video suite, I am a blind user and to be honest a lot of your programs have accessibility issues. For example while I can access general buttons in all your programs hitting a button say menu for any of your products will bring up a menu but it will then be completely inaccessible. Or for example in replay converter once I click the conversion settings with the keyboard I may be able to tab about to the required settings or I may not, and if I say click formats then its not going to show the list, yes I can do it with the mouse and in media converter 5 I was then able to select mp3 as my format after which the entire thing was straight forward and while I was able to get in the list again with the mouse I then couldn't confirm the choice, it would be better if I could select and control all your apps with standard controls I'd be happy to go over the entire thing with one of your devs as every program has something inaccessible with it, and as an owner I'd really like to have all of these fixed. For refference here are the lists of things. 1. director, accessible web interface, I can use it. 2. telecorder, popps up but the interface is not accessible. It used to be back when I had a 32 bit system but that may have been a version ago. 3. video padlock. interface works with standard menus this is the interface I'd like. just the menus work nothing on the main screen. 4. media splitter, completely accessible, please keep it that way the menus work not sure about other things. 5. replay converter. first tab shows, menu and conversion setting completely inaccessible, can't get settings to work, all other buttons work. 6. replay radio, well bar the menu itself when the button is pressed it appears everything else works. 7. replay music, same as replay radio the menu button when pressed shows a menu but I can't navigate it. 8. video capture, both the wm cap and the video capture windows are completely inaccessible, I can't even get menus to work. 9. replay media catcher. The convertion and main menu buttons while they do work are not accessible when clicked. In addition there is a rather large blank space on the top of the director app, if this space is supposed to contain information I can't read it. I currently use nvda screen reader and win7 64 bit previously I had a 32 bit version of windows 7, and I plan to go to win10 sooner or later. I would really like this stuff fixed, if you want me to run through with someone more on this thing then just ask. As it stands I can't really use your stuff fully with these interfaces as they are though once I have them configured I can use most of the converters. > > > >





Re: Suggestion: Switch from Email List to a Forum

John Sanfilippo
 

Just registering my preference to stick with email.

JJCS, s e

On Aug 11, 2017, at 19:12, Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...> wrote:

Got better things to do than go load a web page and spend half an hour trying to find topics I'm interested in. Email is much faster, if I'm interested, I read it. If not, I delete it, and move on. If you want a web interface, groups.io has a very nice one. Feel free to pretend it's a forum.



On 8/10/2017 11:20 AM, Noah Carver via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,


Okay, I'm not trying to kick the hornet's nest, but would it be more beneficial to switch from groups.io to a web forum? PunBB, for example, is very accessible and configurable, and it can be set up to email users when they get a message from a forum topic that a user has subscribed to.


Cheers,


Noah







Re: Suggestion: Switch from Email List to a Forum

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Got better things to do than go load a web page and spend half an hour trying to find topics I'm interested in. Email is much faster, if I'm interested, I read it. If not, I delete it, and move on. If you want a web interface, groups.io has a very nice one. Feel free to pretend it's a forum.

On 8/10/2017 11:20 AM, Noah Carver via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,


Okay, I'm not trying to kick the hornet's nest, but would it be more beneficial to switch from groups.io to a web forum? PunBB, for example, is very accessible and configurable, and it can be set up to email users when they get a message from a forum topic that a user has subscribed to.


Cheers,


Noah




Add-on package updates: back to normal

 

Hi everyone,

 

I’m delighted to announce that the add-on package downloads and update services is back to normal. Thanks to Derek Riemer and Noelia Martinez for assistance in resolving this matter. Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: closing Microsoft Edge

Rob
 

Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
running latest NVDA and win 10 64 bit.
When I use alt F4 to close Edge I am not returned to the desktop until I
either hit windows key d or windows key m.
I notice this with a few different programs--skype for example. Or sometimes, when you alt tab, the program you land on doesn't gain focus; instead, when you hit the key to announce current title, it just says
"Explorer."
I just figured this was a peculiarity with windows and not NVDA.


closing Microsoft Edge

Don H
 

running latest NVDA and win 10 64 bit.

When I use alt F4 to close Edge I am not returned to the desktop until I either hit windows key d or windows key m.


Re: Add-on package downloads: an update, root cause found

 

Hi,

It is already possible to do this, especially made it more feasible with continued migration to GitHub where add-on authors are encouraged to store add-on release packages under their own accounts. The issue lies with the fact that add-on downloads are stored on Git repositories, which is something that raises concerns from time to time. There are better solutions, one of which involves a database.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adriani Botez
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 1:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on package downloads: an update, root cause found

 

Dear NVDA comunity,

 

I think lots of us and also many institutions are donating to this project. Would it be not possible for NV Access to automatically backup addons packages and important files from time to time on a secured server so that the risk is better mitigated?

 

It is just an idea.

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Joseph Lee
Gesendet: Freitag, 11. August 2017 22:33
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] Add-on package downloads: an update, root cause found

 

Dear NVDA community,

 

I’m speaking as the director of NVDA Community Add-ons Coordination and Support Center (https://github.com/nvdaaddons). I’d like to give you an update on add-on package download issue and steps taken to prevent a repeat of what happened yesterday:

 

Problem: Yesterday at around 1:38 PM Pacific time (20:38 UTC), a repository deletion event was recorded on a repository used to host add-on packages for download by the community. Upon further investigations and after emailing the person who did this, it was found that the individual responsible for it have accidentally deleted the official repo hosted at Bitbucket while trying to remove forks of the repo. As a result, the individual’s commit rights were withdrawn.

 

After this, I restored the official repository from an older backup copy I had, then committed a change requested by an add-on author, which led to the current Git conflict problem. As a result, when you try to download add-on packages, you’ll find yourself looking at error 500 page.

 

Thus, the following steps were taken:

 

  • GitHub backup copy created: a backup of the repository responsible for hosting add-on packages is now live with a restriction that only I and one or two add-ons community leaders allowed to commit changes, and no-one apart from the director (I) will be able to delete this repository from now on.
  • The Bitbucket copy is live with a change: only I will be able to commit changes to it, and new contributors will be admitted if and only if they agree to never delete this repository under any circumstances unless permission is obtained.
  • Additional backups under development: in addition to GitHub version, Derek Riemer (author of Crash Hero, contributor to DictationBridge and others) has volunteered to keep the Bitbucket and GitHub versions in sync.
  • Add-on update requests suspended: I have asked add-on authors and translators to suspend requests for add-on updates and new translations until further notice.

 

I will send an update once a progress is made. Thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Add-on package downloads: an update, root cause found

Adriani Botez
 

Dear NVDA comunity,

 

I think lots of us and also many institutions are donating to this project. Would it be not possible for NV Access to automatically backup addons packages and important files from time to time on a secured server so that the risk is better mitigated?

 

It is just an idea.

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Joseph Lee
Gesendet: Freitag, 11. August 2017 22:33
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] Add-on package downloads: an update, root cause found

 

Dear NVDA community,

 

I’m speaking as the director of NVDA Community Add-ons Coordination and Support Center (https://github.com/nvdaaddons). I’d like to give you an update on add-on package download issue and steps taken to prevent a repeat of what happened yesterday:

 

Problem: Yesterday at around 1:38 PM Pacific time (20:38 UTC), a repository deletion event was recorded on a repository used to host add-on packages for download by the community. Upon further investigations and after emailing the person who did this, it was found that the individual responsible for it have accidentally deleted the official repo hosted at Bitbucket while trying to remove forks of the repo. As a result, the individual’s commit rights were withdrawn.

 

After this, I restored the official repository from an older backup copy I had, then committed a change requested by an add-on author, which led to the current Git conflict problem. As a result, when you try to download add-on packages, you’ll find yourself looking at error 500 page.

 

Thus, the following steps were taken:

 

  • GitHub backup copy created: a backup of the repository responsible for hosting add-on packages is now live with a restriction that only I and one or two add-ons community leaders allowed to commit changes, and no-one apart from the director (I) will be able to delete this repository from now on.
  • The Bitbucket copy is live with a change: only I will be able to commit changes to it, and new contributors will be admitted if and only if they agree to never delete this repository under any circumstances unless permission is obtained.
  • Additional backups under development: in addition to GitHub version, Derek Riemer (author of Crash Hero, contributor to DictationBridge and others) has volunteered to keep the Bitbucket and GitHub versions in sync.
  • Add-on update requests suspended: I have asked add-on authors and translators to suspend requests for add-on updates and new translations until further notice.

 

I will send an update once a progress is made. Thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: MS Edge browser, how to close it down

Dan Beaver
 

The problem is that once I get multiple open tabs closed the last one does nothing.  It just won't go away.


Dan Beaver


On 8/11/2017 4:08 PM, Gene wrote:
Control w doesn't do the same thing as alt f4.  It does the same thing as control f4.  Both commands close the tab you are currently in.  If you have more than one tab opened, the other tab or tabs will remain opened.  If you don't have any other tabs opened, the program will close when you close the only opened tab.  This is also true of Windows.  If a program has more than one window opened, control w and control f4 closes the window you are in.  Other windows will remain opened.  If there is only one window opened in a program, these commands will cause the program to close when you close the only opened window.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Arlene
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] MS Edge browser, how to close it down

Hi, does alt w work just as good as alt F 4?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: August-11-17 9:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] MS Edge browser, how to close it down

 

Hi, Dan,

 

Try closing it with control W.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 8:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] MS Edge browser, how to close it down

 

Hi,

 

I accidentally started Edge.  Now I can't seem to find a way to close it down.  alt+f4 does nothing and I can't seem to get to a ribbon or menu bar.

 

How do I do this with NVDA?

 

Dan Beaver



Add-on package downloads: an update, root cause found

 

Dear NVDA community,

 

I’m speaking as the director of NVDA Community Add-ons Coordination and Support Center (https://github.com/nvdaaddons). I’d like to give you an update on add-on package download issue and steps taken to prevent a repeat of what happened yesterday:

 

Problem: Yesterday at around 1:38 PM Pacific time (20:38 UTC), a repository deletion event was recorded on a repository used to host add-on packages for download by the community. Upon further investigations and after emailing the person who did this, it was found that the individual responsible for it have accidentally deleted the official repo hosted at Bitbucket while trying to remove forks of the repo. As a result, the individual’s commit rights were withdrawn.

 

After this, I restored the official repository from an older backup copy I had, then committed a change requested by an add-on author, which led to the current Git conflict problem. As a result, when you try to download add-on packages, you’ll find yourself looking at error 500 page.

 

Thus, the following steps were taken:

 

  • GitHub backup copy created: a backup of the repository responsible for hosting add-on packages is now live with a restriction that only I and one or two add-ons community leaders allowed to commit changes, and no-one apart from the director (I) will be able to delete this repository from now on.
  • The Bitbucket copy is live with a change: only I will be able to commit changes to it, and new contributors will be admitted if and only if they agree to never delete this repository under any circumstances unless permission is obtained.
  • Additional backups under development: in addition to GitHub version, Derek Riemer (author of Crash Hero, contributor to DictationBridge and others) has volunteered to keep the Bitbucket and GitHub versions in sync.
  • Add-on update requests suspended: I have asked add-on authors and translators to suspend requests for add-on updates and new translations until further notice.

 

I will send an update once a progress is made. Thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: MS Edge browser, how to close it down

Gene
 

Control w doesn't do the same thing as alt f4.  It does the same thing as control f4.  Both commands close the tab you are currently in.  If you have more than one tab opened, the other tab or tabs will remain opened.  If you don't have any other tabs opened, the program will close when you close the only opened tab.  This is also true of Windows.  If a program has more than one window opened, control w and control f4 closes the window you are in.  Other windows will remain opened.  If there is only one window opened in a program, these commands will cause the program to close when you close the only opened window.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Arlene
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] MS Edge browser, how to close it down

Hi, does alt w work just as good as alt F 4?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: August-11-17 9:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] MS Edge browser, how to close it down

 

Hi, Dan,

 

Try closing it with control W.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 8:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] MS Edge browser, how to close it down

 

Hi,

 

I accidentally started Edge.  Now I can't seem to find a way to close it down.  alt+f4 does nothing and I can't seem to get to a ribbon or menu bar.

 

How do I do this with NVDA?

 

Dan Beaver


Re: MS Edge browser, how to close it down

Arlene
 

So does Ie. If you got more then one page in Ie. It will ask to close current or all. If you close all Ie shuts down. Does Edge work the same way?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Hedges
Sent: August-11-17 8:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] MS Edge browser, how to close it down

 

Edge has one annoying behavior. If you press Alt+F4, instrad of Ctrl+F4 to close a Tab, then if multiple tabs are open… a dialog pops up that does not close with Escape. This dialog asks if you want to close all Tabs or Vancel, which his the default.

John

From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 11:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] MS Edge browser, how to close it down

 

Hi,

 

I accidentally started Edge.  Now I can't seem to find a way to close it down.  alt+f4 does nothing and I can't seem to get to a ribbon or menu bar.

 

How do I do this with NVDA?

 

Dan Beaver


Re: MS Edge browser, how to close it down

Arlene
 

I meant control w. sorry

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: August-11-17 9:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] MS Edge browser, how to close it down

 

Hi, Dan,

 

Try closing it with control W.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 8:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] MS Edge browser, how to close it down

 

Hi,

 

I accidentally started Edge.  Now I can't seem to find a way to close it down.  alt+f4 does nothing and I can't seem to get to a ribbon or menu bar.

 

How do I do this with NVDA?

 

Dan Beaver


Re: MS Edge browser, how to close it down

Arlene
 

Hi, does alt w work just as good as alt F 4?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: August-11-17 9:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] MS Edge browser, how to close it down

 

Hi, Dan,

 

Try closing it with control W.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 8:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] MS Edge browser, how to close it down

 

Hi,

 

I accidentally started Edge.  Now I can't seem to find a way to close it down.  alt+f4 does nothing and I can't seem to get to a ribbon or menu bar.

 

How do I do this with NVDA?

 

Dan Beaver