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Re: Navigation keys not working #addonrelease

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Is it stuck in focus mode, ie does space/nvda make it toggle?
I believe this is part of the same problem but it depends on the unregistered dlls.
Also does browse/focus mode toggle in Word as it should?
Brian

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From: "Wayne Melling" <hoptercoptor@outlook.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation keys not working #addonrelease #addonrelease


Hi Gene ,

When on a web page the arrow keys, page up, page down, home, and end keys work. I can read the web page using the above-mentioned keys. Just the quick navigation keys do not work, when pressed they just say the letter of the key pressed. The quick navigation keys work with edge and in thunderbird.

I hope this helps.

Thank you,

Wayne


Re: Navigation keys not working #addonrelease

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You ar lucky as some versions of this problem also make the page never create a virtual buffer and the page acts like its blank, or unknown or like its permenently in focus mode depending on how bad the corruption of dlls is I suppose.
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From: "Wayne Melling" <hoptercoptor@outlook.com>
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Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation keys not working #addonrelease #addonrelease


Hi John,

I sure hope someone can help. It is aggravating not to have the quick navigation keys, surfing a web page seems to take forever. :s
Wayne


Re: Navigation keys not working #addonrelease

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I think from reading all the mail on this one its obvious that some corruption of or non registration of some .DLL files has occurred. Sadly on some of these the only effect of their failure is that many accessibility features are crippled.
I expect somebody will be along soon with the ticket for this, and the many possible solutions. I have also seen it on older versions of Windows, so I'm sure its a common issue on many computers, but only we notice it, relying on the access systems that are broken by it.

Last time I saw it I did it with an uninstall of Office 2010, so its been an issue for some time in Office uninstallers.
Brian

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From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation keys not working #addonrelease #addonrelease


Hi Wayne,

This sounds like the same problem I have been having for a while and have posted about with no results. It seemed to
happen after office 2016 was installed. The quick navigation keys do not work in Firefox or Chrome, but they are fine in
Edge. Now that someone else hass the problem maybe something will be done about it.

John

On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 01:29:32PM -0700, Wayne Melling wrote:
Hi,

My Navigation keys do not work when on a web site with internet explorer, Firefox, and google chrome. The keys do work with the edge browser and thunderbird.

I have a new computer with windows ten home 1703 version and I am using NVDA 2017.2. When I purchased the computer I also got office 2016. The store installed the office program. They had some sort of problem in registering the program and I had to do so myself. I don’t know if they attempted to uninstall the program.

My question is if they did uninstall and reinstall office what can I do to get my navigation keys working again?

I am by no means a computer whiz I would appreciate any feedback

Thank you,

Wayne
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Re: Please Another problem needing help

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Hi I don't have Windows 10 here, but if you only have this old version of Outlook and wish to continue using it, unless somebody else here can say it still works for them, you may only have two choices.
1 go back to the previous version of Windows 10
2 find another email program that works. I know that officially Microsoft do not support Office software prior to 2007 for Windows 10, so 2003, although, in my view a [perfectly usable set of programs, might not have been checked with the new code in the latest windows 10 update.
Anyone out there using Outlook 2003 on the latest incarnation of Windows 10.


Most people I know are using the newer versions of Outlook the ones with the ribbons.

Otherwise Sakina could try a search for Outlook crashing in windows 10 and see if its happening to anyone else. but its early days yet and from past experience it could take ages to find somebody with the same software combination.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sakina" <sakina.gable@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 8:54 PM
Subject: [nvda] Please Another problem needing help


Dear all,

I have just managed to update my window 10 creaters update as my turn came
as I did check the version and it did happen from 1603 to 1703

I know very little but am learning.

Now the only problem I am encountering is that when I open my outlook to
read my emails, it lets me read few and stops by saying that Microsoft has
encountered a problem and will notify me if the solution is found. Press alt
c to cancel

I then have to keep restarting my outlook again and again as it lets me read
few more and cuts off.

I am still using Microsoft office 2003

All else is working fine.

Please I do not know what Gene and Rosmary are talking about installing and
un installing this stable version

If that is my problem, can someone help me with step by step instructions
please.

I hope the above does make sense in explaining myself.

Thanking you all again.

With many regards always

Sakina






Re: Vivaldi Web Browser

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I don't see anything on the web site about ad blocking software.
I think that until the advertisers make adverts that do not break accessible web sites, we have to rely on these to actually keep access to most of the web nowadays.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
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Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Vivaldi Web Browser


I've heard of it but I haven't useed it. Aside from the specific question about captchas, when I see a specialized adaptive program when there are accessible standard programs used by sighted users, my question always is whether any functions are not available that are in the standard programs. There are times when special programs are desirable but I've seen far too many instances of special programs not having features that standard accessible programs have.

Gene
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From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 11:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Vivaldi Web Browser


I haven't heard of this browser.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Raghavendra Janivarada
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 8:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Vivaldi Web Browser



Hi NVDA Users,

Please check this browser specially made for visually impaired persons.

Up to what extend it is accessible for VI?

Is it fully compatible with NVDA?

Under Tools menue Captcha option is there.

Can we use it to solve captcha problems?

Kindly throw some light on it.

https://vivaldi.com/download/

Thanks

Raghu



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Re: Vivaldi Web Browser

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Well, this as I recall is a brainchild of the original programmers who made Opera. I also remember reading that for those with poor vision it can easily zoom change sizes of items and colour contrast and has keyboard shortcuts. What I'm not so sure about its whether it actually has an API that screenreaders can hook into. I guess one would need to download it and try.
Brian

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From: "Raghavendra Janivarada" <raghavendrakarnataka@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 4:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] Vivaldi Web Browser


Hi NVDA Users,
Please check this browser specially made for visually impaired persons.
Up to what extend it is accessible for VI?
Is it fully compatible with NVDA?
Under Tools menue Captcha option is there.
Can we use it to solve captcha problems?
Kindly throw some light on it.
https://vivaldi.com/download/
Thanks
Raghu

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Re: Suggestion: Switch from Email List to a Forum

 

i can only use gmail, not forum!
i cant go to the web, enter user password and search about questions
in a long time to find them!
i only love current method!

On 8/13/17, Dennis L <dennisl1982@gmail.com> wrote:
I third that request.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 6:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Suggestion: Switch from Email List to a Forum



Brian wrote:



Can I respectfully suggest we close this topic now?



I second that request. This is going nowhere.



Chris.



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Re: Vivaldi Web Browser

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

hi


as far as i know that browser is very useable unless things have changed. any browsers unless stated on the nvda road tested programs page unless it says it does not work should work.


I have not used the capture part of it though maybe some one else has.


Gene nz



On 13/08/2017 03:55, Raghavendra Janivarada wrote:

Hi NVDA Users,

Please check this browser specially made for visually impaired persons.

Up to what extend it is accessible for VI?

Is it fully compatible with NVDA?

Under Tools menue Captcha option is there.

Can we use it to solve captcha problems?

Kindly throw some light on it.

https://vivaldi.com/download/

Thanks

Raghu

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



Re: Vivaldi Web Browser

Andre Fisher
 

Persons should really try the browser for themselves instead of asking others about its accessibility or usability. The best opinion can only come from first hand experience with these things.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Dennis L
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 12:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Vivaldi Web Browser

 

What makes this good?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 6:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Vivaldi Web Browser

 

This browser isn't specifically designed for the blind, but many accessibillity features have been implemented that make it much more accessible.

 

On 8/12/2017 11:55, Raghavendra Janivarada wrote:

Hi NVDA Users,

Please check this browser specially made for visually impaired persons.

Up to what extend it is accessible for VI?

Is it fully compatible with NVDA?

Under Tools menue Captcha option is there.

Can we use it to solve captcha problems?

Kindly throw some light on it.

https://vivaldi.com/download/

Thanks

Raghu

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


Re: Suggestion: Switch from Email List to a Forum

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

I third that request.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 6:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Suggestion: Switch from Email List to a Forum

 

Brian wrote:

 

Can I respectfully suggest we close this topic now?

 

I second that request. This is going nowhere.

 

Chris.


Re: Vivaldi Web Browser

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

What makes this good?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 6:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Vivaldi Web Browser

 

This browser isn't specifically designed for the blind, but many accessibillity features have been implemented that make it much more accessible.

 

On 8/12/2017 11:55, Raghavendra Janivarada wrote:

Hi NVDA Users,

Please check this browser specially made for visually impaired persons.

Up to what extend it is accessible for VI?

Is it fully compatible with NVDA?

Under Tools menue Captcha option is there.

Can we use it to solve captcha problems?

Kindly throw some light on it.

https://vivaldi.com/download/

Thanks

Raghu

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


need to see the number of messages when i highlight inbox for example in outlook 2010 with NVDA

Moti Azrad
 

Dear all,

 

I use Outlook2010 and with Jaws 18 – I can see with my Braille display in the inbox for example the number 10 for example that tells me that I have 10 new unread messages in that inbox.

With NVDA, I don't have it.

Is there any NVDA addon that I can install and may get this important feature, for me?

 

A lot of thanks for your answers and help.

 

Moti

 

Moti Azrad

 

Musician & Piano-Tuner

motia@...

azrad_moty@...

motiaz@...

ISRAEL

 


Re: Navigation keys not working #addonrelease

John J. Boyer
 

I tried the nvda+shift+space combination in Firefox and nothing worked, not even the arrow keys and tab key. I had to
tell NVDA not
to save the configuration on exit and then restart it.

John

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 07:24:44AM +0430, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
did you press nvda+shift+space key by accident when you use your
firefox, chrome or other browsers?
when you are in such browsers, press these combination of keys and
nvda should says single letter navigation keys on if its turned off by
accident.
hope that help and God bless you!

On 8/13/17, Wayne Melling <hoptercoptor@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi Gene ,

When on a web page the arrow keys, page up, page down, home, and end keys
work. I can read the web page using the above-mentioned keys. Just the quick
navigation keys do not work, when pressed they just say the letter of the
key pressed. The quick navigation keys work with edge and in thunderbird.

I hope this helps.

Thank you,

Wayne

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in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


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Re: Navigation keys not working #addonrelease

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


the problem i had was this one which gave a brief outline and what i had to do to fix it.


the previous email with a link to the ticket had more comments in the last 9 days but my solution was from may 19.


I only just seen the other comments with some solutions but may not be yours?????


Below will be from what come off my web site from the trouble shooting section.



Troubleshooting - NVDA says “unknown” or “pane” in all of your browsers, Mozilla Thunderbird email client and other places
If for some reason you have problems with NVDA saying “unknown” or “pane” check for the following symptoms:

In all of your browsers, or the Mozilla Thunderbird email client, no matter what you do, you still hear “unknown” or “pane”.

In the browser, email client and other menus you notice you cannot get into your menus, or you are unable to use the quick navigation keys

When you have been told the page is loaded and notice strange behaviour

Mozilla Thunderbird saying unknown while you try to navigate it

Your applications key does not work with it being spoken out and other strange behaviour in Windows

The running applications icons are not being spoken out
It might be a good idea to do the following:
Please note: If you are hearing “unknown” or “pane” (as discussed above) NVDA might seem like it is still working properly but it may not be completely in Windows and other programmes.
You could try the following solution which will allow you to re-register your dll files in case they are causing the problem.
Press the Windows key then type the following into the search box. Type in “command prompt”. Once you have located command prompt, in the search results, press the Applications key to bring up the context menu. Arrow down to select “run as administrator” and press the Enter key. This will take you to a command prompt window. This will not be spoken out. You may need sighted assistance for this.
Type in the following command
for %x in (c:\windows\system32\*.dll) do regsvr32 /s %x
This should re-register all components in the system32 folder.
When it is finished, you can close the command prompt window with the Alt + F4 key. You should notice now where NVDA was saying “unknown” as in some examples given, NVDA should now read the icons in the running applications area of Windows, speak the content of the webpage and menus, and also in Mozilla Thunderbird and other places in Windows including the Windows applications context menu.



Gene nz



On 13/08/2017 16:03, Wayne Melling wrote:
Hi,
Yes I have tried all that you suggested here. It acts the same on all web pages.
Thank you,
Wayne


Re: Navigation keys not working #addonrelease

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Not sure if it sounds like what i was getting I just commented or put up a log for the following issue at https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807#issuecomment-320149243

My problem had the solution from may 19 and it fixed my problem with nvda saying unknow etc etc but now see in the last 9 days some other comments or patches to try.


Yours might not be the same problem? but never know it might be related?


Gene nz



On 13/08/2017 16:03, Wayne Melling wrote:
Hi,
Yes I have tried all that you suggested here. It acts the same on all web pages.
Thank you,
Wayne


Re: Navigation keys not working #addonrelease

 

Hi,
Yes I have tried all that you suggested here. It acts the same on all web pages.
Thank you,
Wayne


Re: Navigation keys not working #addonrelease

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi

Out of curiosity did you also try changing from focus mode to browse mode with the nvda key + space bar.

here i have mine set so i can hear which mode i am in on the net it will say browse mode for single letter navigation and focus mode where you can type instead of the sounds.

This caqn be changed under the browse mode settings and uncheck the box that says Audio indication of focus and browse modes

I wonder if nvda did not go into browse mode or maybe it changed to focus mode in a edit box.

I just tried it on a web page with no edit boxes and if i change into focus mode while not in a edit box you will only hear the letters you pressed. Maybe it did not go into the mode correctly? I guess that is why i would rather hear it spoken.

the other thing is the page might not have loaded correctly use the nvda key + F5 key to refresh it.

It does not sound like the unknown or pane problem.

Gene nz

 On 13/08/2017 14:48, Wayne Melling wrote:

Hi Gene ,

When on a web page the arrow keys, page up, page down, home, and end keys work. I can read the web page using the above-mentioned keys. Just the quick navigation keys do not work, when pressed they just say the letter of the key pressed. The quick navigation keys work with edge and in thunderbird.

I hope this helps.

Thank you,

Wayne



Re: Is there a Python IDE that works well with NVDA?

 

hi.
i recommend testing notepad++.
its free, opensource and is translated in to many languages.

On 8/12/17, Jacob Kruger <jacob@blindza.co.za> wrote:
Not a direct answer, but, when working with python - and PHP, etc. - I
just use edSharp as my programmer's text editor.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2017-08-12 19:14, John J. Boyer wrote:
Of courdse there's the Pythpon console in the Tools menu, but for serious
programming something more is needed. I'm
using Braille. That probably means that I would have to switch between a
contracted Braille table and an 8-dot table
with the Braille menu. That is why I would like the feature of being able
to switch between the two with a skingle key
press. This is what BRLTTY provides.

Thanks,
John



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Re: Navigation keys not working #addonrelease

 

Hi,
I checked out what you suggested and my single navigation keys are on.
Thank you for your input
Wayne


Re: Navigation keys not working #addonrelease

 

hi.
did you press nvda+shift+space key by accident when you use your
firefox, chrome or other browsers?
when you are in such browsers, press these combination of keys and
nvda should says single letter navigation keys on if its turned off by
accident.
hope that help and God bless you!

On 8/13/17, Wayne Melling <hoptercoptor@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi Gene ,

When on a web page the arrow keys, page up, page down, home, and end keys
work. I can read the web page using the above-mentioned keys. Just the quick
navigation keys do not work, when pressed they just say the letter of the
key pressed. The quick navigation keys work with edge and in thunderbird.

I hope this helps.

Thank you,

Wayne
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org