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Re: query

anthony borg
 

Hi gene

First of all thank you for your prompt reply and your help.

Somebody else has tried to install on my laptop another speech synthesizer, but unfortunately I don’t know what touched from the settings.

I’m suspecting that he might changed something from the configuration settings.

Would that be possible to effect the voice settings?

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 16 August 2017 01:07
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

I would recommend having it unchecked  The reason is that if you have this option checked, you may make a temporary change to deal with a specific situation you don't want to be a general setting and accidentally make it permanent.  Also, you can experiment and not accidentally make an experimental setting permanent.  I think it’s a much better idea to manually save changes if you want them saved. 

 

There are times I change something for a specific purpose such as to speed up or slow down speech when reading certain material, change punctuation temporarily, temporarily change verbosity about what is spoken when I'm on a web page, and perhaps other things I haven't thought of now.  In none of these cases, do  I intend for the changes to be permanent.  I always have NVDA set not to save on exit.

 

Gene

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Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 5:53 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

Go to the general settings and check if save configuration on exit is unchecked. If you want, check it. Otherwise, you can press Control+NVDA+C to save the changes.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 2:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

Hi list

Can somebody explain to me why when I exit n v d a and upload it again it doesn’t keep the voice settings plese?

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: 15 August 2017 21:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: query

 

Personally, I think the sleep mode works better

because if you move to another window wile Kurzweil 1000 is still running, nvda comes back without haveng to turn speach mode on.

Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 8:10 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Yes, that worked, the speech mode toggle. Thanks.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Some years ago, I asked this same question, and I was given some lines of text to write, but for the life of me, can't remember where or how, but since then, when using kurzweil1000 with NVDA, NVDA doesn't talk. I think i saved the file with a certain name, but for the life of me, can't remember how this was done.

 

El 15/08/2017 a las 01:23 p.m., Arlene escribió:

Oh! I’ll have to give that a try!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: August-15-17 11:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Put nvda to sleep by holding down the insert and control keys and press the letter S.

 

Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:00 PM

Subject: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Hi, is there a way to silence nvda while using an independent speech program like Kurzweil 1000? That way I don’t have two eloquence synths going at once? Which is kind of psychedelic sounding but not very productive.

 

Thanks, Dave

 

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Re: NVDA training moduals?

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A bit back Sakina reported crashes with latest build of Windows 10 stable and outlook 2003, but to me it was not clear if the crash was due to the upgrade, or something nvda related in the new build. Might she find a different result, say if she installs the master snap with it, in case its some weird interaction?
Apparently, it falls over eventually when you go to read a message after opening some.
The question for me is not only about nvda, but also anti virus and which service pack the Office 2003 has installed on it. Its probably been a machine updated from 7 to 10 so it used to work in 10 before, obviously.

I don't use Outlook myself, being even more of a dinosaur than usual here... grin.
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Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 3:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA training moduals?


We haven't done anything to stop support for older versions of Office, but
I don't think any of the lead developers have used say Office 2003 for
awhile so if there is something which doesn't work, we might not have
noticed it. If you do find something that stops working, do definitely let
us know or file a GitHub issue please so we are aware of it.

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 12:28 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
wrote:

hi quentin.
i did not understand your last sentences if you use office 2003 and
above what they mean.
also is it realy unusable excel 2003 and 2007 with nvda 2017.2?
i followed github and realized that its support is again provided with
nvda 2017.3!
i am realy curious to know about supporting of excel 2003 and 2007
with nvda 2017.2
God bless you!

On 8/16/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
The Basic Training for NVDA module (which covers getting around Windows
and
using most of the NVDA commands) is fairly OS agnostic - it doesn't go
too
in-depth into things like exactly where every option on the Start menu is
for instance, although it does tell you about how to get around. I tried
to make it useable by someone using anything from Windows XP through to
Windows 10 (including Windows 8).

The Microsoft Word and Excel modules are written covering the features
from
Office 2010 through to the current 2016. Although NVDA itself should
still
work with many features of Office 2003 (mostly hedging my bets there as I
haven't used Office 2003 for awhile), we used Office 2010 - 2016 for the
material simply to avoid bogging the instructions down with:
- If using Office 2003, do ABC
- If using Office 2007, do DEF
- If using Office 2010, do GHI
- If using Office 2013 or 16, do JKL

Re Outlook, we haven't covered that in the first three modules, however
the
intention is that as long as the interest is there, I'd like to do
modules
for other Office applications - at this stage, they would again be
written
to Office 2010 - 2016.

Regards

Quentin.

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As a matter of fact what are your feelings about people who might be
using
office 2003, and is there any info on Outlook on any windows version in
the
tutorials?

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen" <
quentin@nvaccess.org>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA training moduals?



If it's the official ones from: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ then yes,
that's me.

Unless it's about any errors in which case... actually yes, any errors
are
almost certainly me!

Seriously, please do let me know any errors you find or questions you
have. Feel free to write to me either on the list here or off-list at
quentin@nvaccess.org.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Gene New Zealand <
hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

Hi


as far as i know Quentin writes them from nvaccess.


Gene nz



On 15/08/2017 18:17, The Wolf wrote:
Hello on the nvda training moduals who does the tutorial on those?

just curious.

thanks

Hank








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Re: silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

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Interestingly, on github there has been an open issue on this, and as nobody has responded, I believe it has been closed. It was proposed some years ago to make nvda shut up on this self voicing ap. However developments since in the form of simple to install app modules and the ability to turn of the voice with a hot key have somewhat made this a little redundant. In the past the problem with shutting it up globally has been that dialogues that did not have self voicing needed to have it enabled again of course. Hopefully these now speak properly. I have a program here called Newsbridge that is self voicing and I use an app module custom made for it, and hand installed, but there are many ways to do it now.
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From: "Dave Bahr " <dcbahr1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:00 PM
Subject: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000


Hi, is there a way to silence nvda while using an independent speech program
like Kurzweil 1000? That way I don't have two eloquence synths going at
once? Which is kind of psychedelic sounding but not very productive.



Thanks, Dave


Re: A Text Tutorial on the Mail, People, and Calendar Apps from David Moore

 

Hello, it’s a good tutorial. Thanks!

 

Trimis din Mail pentru Windows 10

 

De la: David Moore
Trimis: miercuri, 16 august 2017 01:33
Către: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subiect: [nvda] A Text Tutorial on the Mail, People, and Calendar Apps from David Moore

 

Hi all,

Here, pasted right in this message, is a very understandable, easy to follow, and a step by step tutorial that I did on the Win10 Mail, People, and Calendar Apps.

Please let me know if you have any questions as you do the steps that are in the tutorial.

Here it is, pasted right below:

Here is the start of the tutorial.

Tutorial on the Win10 Mail, People, and Calendar Apps

By

David Moore

All key commands for all three apps, Mail, People, and Calendar, are at the end of this tutorial.

Intruduction:

 

I will Let you know this first. When you import your email accounts into the win10 Mail app,

your contacts are automatically imported into the People app. All calendar information, is imported into the Calendar app.

So, if you want to work with your contacts, you have to do so in the people app and not the mail app. Think of it like this. Three apps work together to give you that MS outlook client experience.

The people app has all of your contacts. The mail app is where you work with and send your email messages. The Calendar app has all of your appointments and much more.

Now, while you are in the win10 mail app, you can switch to the Calendar app or the People app.

Many of the commands are the same as in WLM.

Mail for Windows 10 supports most types of email services.  You can add any of these Microsoft accounts:

Exchange, Office 365, Outlook.com, Hotmail, Live.com, and MSN.com.  You can also add any of these accounts:

Gmail, Yahoo Mail, iCloud, or an account with a POP or IMAP server.

 

Section One

Launching the Windows 10 Mail App

So, let us consider how you can launch the mail app for the first time. The way I did it, was to press the windows key or CTRL+Escape and type mail. I heard windows mail app trusted windows store app.

Now, press enter, and the mail app will open. There you go, you have launched the mail app for the first time. The first time you open Mail, you'll land on the Welcome screen. Press Enter on Get Started. Now, you are ready to start using the Win10 Mail App. If you have a Microsoft Account, your MS email account should already be imported into the mail app.

 

Section Two:

Putting the Mail, Calendar, and People apps on your Desktop, or pinning them to your taskbar:

Finally, let us begin to learn how to use these three apps.

You may want to pin all three apps, Mail, Calendar, and People, to your taskbar, or put them on your desktop as short cuts.

To put them as short cuts on your Desktop, press Windows key+R to open the run dialog.

just type:

shell:appsfolder

In a second, all of your apps will be in a list. Just press the first letter of the one you want until you hear, Mail, for example.

Now, press your applications key or Shift+F10.

Now, press the up arrow key once to hear:

Create short cut.

Enter on that, and you will hear:

Short cut cannot be created here, do you want to put it on the desktop instead?

Just press enter, and the Mail app will be on your Desktop.

To pen it to the taskbar, just press the Windows Key or CTRL+Escape and type Mail, for example.

When you hear Mail, just press the appllications key or Shift+F10 and arrow down to:

Pin to taskbar and press enter.

The Mail app will be on your Taskbar.

You can do the same for the Calendar and People apps.

 

Section Three

A Few Key Commands to get started:

Here are a few commands to use the mail app. Tab key: The tab key will get you anywhere you need to go in the mail app. Also, F6 will take you to different sections of the app. These three apps, mail, people, and calendar apps have been made so accessible, that you can use the PC cursor with JAWS. Also, no object navigation needs to be done in these three apps with NVDA. Narrator works great as well.

When you read messages with Narrator, Scan mode needs to be activated by pressing:

Caps Lock+Spacebar.

That command toggles the Scan Mode on and off with Narrator.

You only want to turn on Scan Mode to read messages.

You want it off the rest of the time. Even when you type a message, Scan Mode needs to be turnned off.

Scan Mode is just for reading.

When a message is opened with JAWS, you are put in a virtual viewer so you can use the virtual cursor, just like in a web page.

Now, to work with messages:

to send your message, press

alt+S.

To reply to a message:

press ctrl+R.

to forward a message:

press CTRL+F.

to create a new message:

press CTRL+N.

As you type the email address, choices will populate to choose from.

To insert an attachment, press Alt+I.

You can then brows for the file you want to attach.

All other key commands for all three of these apps, will be put at the end of this tutorial.

 

Section Four:

Importing your first account into the Mail App

Now, let us add our first account.

From the list of messages for your MS account, tab to manage accounts and press enter.

If you do not have an MS email account imported in to the Mail app, just Tab to Manage Accounts and press enter.

Next, tab to the Add account button and press enter.

You will be in a list of account types you can add. In the Choose an account dialog, use the Down Arrow key to go through the list of account types (Outlook.com, Exchange, Google, Yahoo Mail, and so

on). When you hear the name of your account type, press Enter. For example, if you want to add a Gmail account, press enter on Google. Next, Enter the email address for the account that you want to add. Now, tab to the password box, and enter your password.

Press the Tab key to move to the Sign in button and press enter.

Now, press enter again on the:

done button.

Your email account should import into the Mail app in seconds, and your emails will be in your in box from the last three months.

Now, if it does not work to import an account by choosing Google, for example, any account will import into this choice:

Go to the account choice:

other account, IMAP or POP.

Any account, Pop or IMAP, will import under this choice, even a Google account.

Only a few POP email Accounts will have to be imported by hand with all of the settings.

For most accounts, your email and password will be enough to import the account.

The last account choice, is the advanced account. Enter on this last choice if you need to enter in all of your account settings by hand.

The only reason why you need the advanced account choice is to import a few older POP 3 accounts and set them up by hand.

To import all of your accounts:

Just follow the same instructions written above.

You will need to press enter on Manage Accounts, and enter on Add account, for each account you import.

It is important that you know that your contacts for your accounts, are imported into the People app.

You can get to the People App right from the Mail app.

Also, all calendar data partaning to your accounts, is imported into the Calendar App.

This is how all three apps work together to give you the entire Email Client experience.

After you add your accounts, notice in the manage accounts menu, you will see a choice to link accounts. This means, that you could have all messages from all of your accounts go into one inbox. I would not do this. Each account should have its own inbox.

Now, let us press enter on one of the accounts that you just added and see what happens.

If you press enter on one of your accounts, there is a choice to delete the account if you decide you do not want it in the mail app anymore.

Also, if you press enter on the sync settings, you will see that your emails from three months ago will import. You can change this if you want.

Also, You can change some settings about how the emails are synced in the mail app, but I would not mess with that at all.

Now, just press escape to get out of that, and you will be back in your list of accounts. Press escape to close the manage accounts pane.

We are all done with the Manage accounts option.

 

Section Five:

Navigating the Maiol App with the Tab Key

Now, we have all of our accounts imported intothe Mail App.

Make sure that you are on a folder list of messages for one of your accounts.

A list of messages will be our starting point, and we will begin to tab.

Now I will Tab.

I am on my list of emails for my MS Outlook account.

Tabbing:

I hear Navigation button collapsed.

You want to press enter to hear:

Navigation button expanded.

If you do not do this, you will not see everything in the Mail app.

Tab again, and you hear:

New Mail Button.

This is what you activate by pressing the key command:

CTRL+N

You do not need this button.

Tab: and you hear:

Manage accounts.

That is where we just were when you imported and customized all of your email accounts.

Tab:

You will see a list of all of your accounts once you import them into the Mail app.

If you press enter on an account, the In Box of messages for that account will open and you are put in the inbox of messages.

Now, we will tab from your list of accounts.

You have Folders Button.

Sub Section:

Folders Button.

When you press enter on Folders Button, there is a lot you can do in here.

In this Sub Section, We will talk about all you can do after you press enter on Folders Button.

Press enter on Folders Button:

The first thing you will be on, is a virticle list of all of your folders for that email account.

You can just up and down arrow to the folder you want, and press enter.

You are then put right in the list of messages for that folder.

Instead of pressing enter on a folder, if you tab once, you can press enter on:

Create New Folder

As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name of the new folder.

This will create a new folder for that account.

This is all in the Folders Button.

Press enter on Folders Button, again, if you are not still in that pane.

On your list of folders, you can arrow to a folder, and press:

Applications Key or Shift+F10.

You can now down arrow through the following choices:

Add to Favorites Button

Pressing Enter will put that folder on your favorites list of folders, so you do not have to keep coming into the Folders Button to find a folder.

Next choice when pressing applications Key:

, Create new subfolder Button

Pressing enter on that choice, will allow you to create a sub folder under that main folder you arrowed to.

As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name of the sub folder, and press enter.

The third choice:

Rename Button

The fourth choice:

Delete Button

Pressing enter there wil delete the folder.

Fifth Choice:

Move Button

Sixth Choice:

Empty folder Button

Seventh and last Choice:

Pin to Start Button

To review:

When you arrow to a folder, you can press:

Applications Key or Shift+F10,

and you get a menu of seven choices listed above.

You can press enter on any of those choices to do the action that it says.

We are all done with the Folders Button.

Now, make sure that you are on the Folders Button, and we will start tabbing again.

If you tab from the Folders Button,

You are on your list of Favorite Folders I mentioned.

You can just arrow down through this list of folders that you chose to be your favorite folders.

You do not have to enter on the Folders Button to get to these.

They are right here in a list.

I have my In Box folder, Sent Folder, Trash Folder, and a Saved folder that I created, in my Favorites list.

I keep those four folders in that favorites list, so I do not have to keep pressing enter on the Folders Button to get to those Folders.

I can just tab over to this list of four folders that I use the most.

Pressing enter on one of those four folders will put me right in the list of messages for that folder.

You always get put right on the list of messages when you enter on any folder.

Now, we will tab from this favorites list, and we get:

Moore Button.

This is the exact copy of the Folders Button LOL!

Forget the More Button LOL!

Tab again:

Switch to Calendar Button:

Tab:

Switch to People Button:

Pressing enter on one of those buttons, will Open one of those apps.

You can have all three opened at the same time.

Tab:

Settings Button:

 

Sub Section:

We have important stuff here, if we press enter on Settings Button, so this will be another sub section, like Folders Button.

Settings Button

Press Enter on Settings Button.

Now, let us look at the settings in the mail app. There are some settings that you might want to change or work with in these groups of settings . The two groups of settings you should open are the reading and signature settings. Do not mess with the other groups of settings.

Reading Settings

There are two choices you might want to change in this settings group.

You can check or uncheck carrot browsing.

I would leave carrot browsing unchecked in the reading settings group.

Now, in this reading group, there is also a button that turns on and off conversation view.

You definitely want this button checked, because your messages will be grouped into their respective threads.

You can delete the entire thread if your messages are in conversation view.

Press enter on the back button to close the reading group.

Each group of Settings has a back button you can press enter on to get out of that group, and you are taken back to the groups of settings.

Signature Settings Group:

This is the only other group of settings where you need to do anything.

Press Enter on Signature Settings.

In here, you can add a signature, or check all accounts to have the same signature

If you check to have a signature, and press Tab, there is a signature that is there by default.

It says:

sent from mail for windows 10.

If you want to create your own signature, check the signature, and over right that default signature to add your own signature you want to appear after every message that you send.

You can have different signatures for each account, or have the same signature for all accounts by checking all accounts.

If you want no signature, you can just press Spacebar to uncheck the signature toggle.

Press the Back Button, to get out of the Signature Settings Group.

If you press:

Escape

You are back on the Settings Button, where we were tabbing across the Mail App.

That is pretty much all I would worry about in settings.

There are just a few more tabs, before we are back to the list of messages.

Tab from Settings Button:

There is a search edit box.

If you type any name, or phrase, and so on in that search box,

it will narrow down the list of email messages that have that Name or phrase in them.

This is a great way to find a particular message very quickly.

I use this a lot.

You can get right to that search box,

by pressing:

CTRL+E

You do not have to tab to that LOL!

Tab, and you have:

Sync this View Button.

If you press that, your messages will load more quickly, but they load quickly anyway for me, and I do not have to press enter on that:

sync this View button.

Tab again, and you have:

Enter Selection Mode Button.

This is important.

When you press enter on that button, you are on your list of messages in that folder, but now, there is a difference.

There is now a check box before each message that you can press spacebar on to check that message. You can check as many messages as you want.

Now, if you shift tab twice, you are back to where the:

Enter sellection Mode Button was.

Now, there is a check box there that says, Select all, check box not checked.

you can press spacebar to check all of your messages. You have to tab twice to get back to the list of messages, but now, they are all checked.

After you check messages, you can press the:

applications Key or Shift+F10

and you will have the following choices:

Archive, Delete, Move, and a few less important choices in that context menu.

If you press enter on delete, all messages that are selected will be deleted. If you press enter on move, your list of all folders come up, and you can move your selected messages to another folder.

Just press enter on the folder, and the selected messages are moved to that folder.

 

Section Six:

Working with your messages:

Now, we can start working with with our email messages for what ever account you pick from the list of accounts. All the accounts will be in a virticle list, and you just press enter on what ever account you want to work with, and you will be placed in the inbox and the messages will load.

Here we go LOL!

Let us arrow through the messages in the inbox and read some of our messages.

Just enter on the message you want to open. To read messages with NVDA, you must be in brows mode.

When you type a message, you must be in focus mode.

The only time you want to be in Brows Mode, is to read the messages. To attach a file to the message, for example, you want to be in Focus mode with NVDA.

With Narrator, you want to be in scan mode to read messages.

To do everything else, even type a message, you need to turn off scan mode. Narrator works very well with the mail app.

Now, with JAWS, you are put in a virtual environment just like on the Internet. The virtual PC cursor, will allow you to select and copy information that is right in the message.

when you are done reading that message, just press escape to get out of the message and back to the list of messages

You do not have to do anything with JAWS to do all that you want to do in the mail app, even type a message.

Now, let me give you some important key commands right here.

tab gets you anywhere in the mail app you want to be. Tabbing will get you to the list of your accounts, and the folders button, that you enter on to get a full list of folders for that account. When you are on the list of folders, tab to the more button and press enter to do more with your folders, like create a new folder. To create a sub folder for a particular folder Tab to the more button again, and press enter. Down arrow to creat a sub folder. and arrow to which folder you want to create the sub folder for and tab to create, and press enter. . Now, you can type the name of the sub folder you want, and press enter. That is how you create a sub folder of a folder that is already there. When you are on a message in the list, you can press the applications key or shift+F10 and get choices of what you can do with that message. One of these choices is move. If you enter on move, you will get a list of folders you can move that message to. I created a folder called saved messages. So when I want to save a message, I just move the message to my saved messages folder. If you press delete, the message goes in the trash folder. To send a message, press ctrl+N. You are put in the to: edit box. Just type in the email, tab to subject, and tab to write your message. To send a message, press Alt+S, and you are back on the list of messages in your inbox. After you open a message and read it, you can reply to it by pressing CTRL+R. Just type your message, and press alt+S to send your reply. You will be in the list of messages, and just press the delete key to delete that message. To forward a message, just press ctrl+F. To spell check your message before sending, just press F7.

Tabs on the ribbon of the mail app:

Here we go with the ribbon. When you are in a message, three tabs show up on the ribbon. Just press the alt key to get to the ribbon. The first tab you will hear is the format tab. Right arrow to the insert tab, and right arrow again to the third and last tab, the options tab. Now, if you press alt a second time while you are still in the mail app, you will be on the tab that you were last working with. If you were working with the options tab lastly, the options tab will show up, and you will have to left arrow to get back to insert and format. You do wrap around in a circle with a couple of other choices in there as you wrap. On any of these tabs, just press the down arrow to get to all of the choices for that tab. Then, press tab to tab through all of the choices. For example, to insert an attachment into an email, press the alt key, and arrow to the insert tab. Then, press the down arrow, and you are right on the files choice. It will not say attach, this is very important. Pressing down arrow on the insert tab, allows you to insert different things into your email. Remember, you can just press:

Alt+I to attach a file.

To attach anything else, you must go to the insert tab on the ribbon. The ribbon is not important, unless you want to insert different things into the email, or if you want to format the email.

Other choices to insert, are table, link, and so on. These are different things that you can insert in your email. Press enter on files, and you can brows your computer to find a file to insert or attach, and press enter on the open button. Now, you are put back on your message you are composing. If you press Shift+tab one time, you will be on your file that you attached to your email. That is how people will find your attachments. They will just shift tab to hear all of the files you inserted or attached to your email. Now, Use Shift+Tab again to move focus to the subject line, and press Shift+Tab again to hear the sender’s name. In other words, when you are in a message, press Shift+tab to hear all of the information like the subject, the sender, the time and date, and so on. There are not key commands to read this information to you like in other clients. When you finish reading the message, press the Escape key to return to the message list. That is the key. If you just press escape, you go back to your list of messages. If you press delete on a message in the list, it goes to the trash folder right away. Now, if you select some text in your email, just press alt, and arrow to the format tab, and press down arrow to the format choices if you want to format your email. just tab through the choices. There are many, you can do about anything here to format your email text. For example, if you down arrow on the format tab, there will be choices to bold, underline, and to do other things to the text that you select in your email that you are composing. Now, for the options tab, the third and last tab, you will not need to use, but feel free to check out the options. The option for Spell Checking, is the same as pressing F7 in your message. Now, here is the thing about spell checking in the mail app. You can go to the win10 settings app, by pressing windows+I to have win10 correct much of your spelling as you type. This only works though, in a win10 app. The mail app qualifies for that. So, in settings, arrow to the devices group and press enter. Then, go to the type choice and press enter. Check two check boxes. The first says something like correct spelling, and the second one says something like high light words that are misspelled. Check those two check boxes and press enter. Now, when you are in the mail app, most of the words will be automatically corrected as you type them. However, this feature will not correct all misspelled words. This is where you press F7 to do a total spell check. Important: There is not a way to have the mail app spell check every message automatically when you send it like with WLM. You definitely have to spell check every message that you compose before you send it just like with each document in Word.

Well, we have covered everything with the mail app itself.

Now, I will show you quickly how to use the people app and calendar app, and then you can use all three apps together as one email client.

People app:

Launch the People app, and tab a few times. You will tab by a new button, where you can manually enter the information for a new contact. If you tab passed the new button, you will come to a list of contacts. You cannot use first letter navigation to jump to a certain contact, but here is what you can do. Tab one more time, and you will be in a list of letters of the alphabet. Again, you cannot use first letter navigation, like you can now use in the all apps. Just arrow down to the letter you want, and shift+tab back to the list of contact starting with that letter. Find the name you want, and tab a few more times. There will be an edit where you can edit the contact's information. Tab passed that, and you will come to profile. Tab one more time, and you will be on their email. To copy that email, you have to press the applications key, or shift+F10, and press enter on copy. You will then have that person's email copied to the clip board. You can go to the mail app, and paste that into the to: edit box to send them an email. That is it with the people app. Remember, your contacts are imported into the people app. As you type an email into the mail app, the populated choices come from the people app.

Calendar app:

Launch the calendar app, and press alt+ctrl+4 to get into month view. You are put on a grid of days of the week. You will land on to day. It will say the date as well. For example, you will hear Friday, October 28. You also hear how many events are linked with that day, like birthday's of your contacts and so on. Tab to each event, and press enter on the event to get the details of the event. If you shift+tab, you will go back to the day of those events. If you press right and left arrow, you will go forward a day or back a day. Up arrow takes you a week before from that day, and downarrow takes you a week ahead of that day. If you want to schedule an event for a certain day, just press enter on that day, and a dialog will come up for you to enter all of the information for the appointment or event, and there is an okay or done button. There you go! That is how you read days, the events for those days, and how to schedule an event for that day. That is about it for the calendar app.

 

Here are many keyboard shortcuts to use all three apps:

Account Manual Sync (Send and retrieve new mail)

CTRL+M

Or

F9

Mark as read

CTRL+Q

Mark as unread

CTRL+U

Toggle the important property on a conversation

CTRL+SHIFT+G

Delete a conversation

CTRL+D

Or

DEL

Archive a conversation

BACKSPACE

Reply to current mail

CTRL+R

Reply all

CTRL+SHIFT+R

Forward current mail

CTRL+F

Search

CTRL+E

Or

F3

Create a new mail

CTRL+N

Or

CTRL+SHIFT+M

Add Attachment

ALT+I

Send mail

ALT+S

Or

Ctrl + Enter

Switch to Inbox

CTRL+SHIFT+I

Switch to Outbox

CTRL+SHIFT+O

Zoom in

CTRL++ (Plus key on numpad)

Zoom out

CTRL+- (Minus key on numpad)

Move between regions

F6

Toggle Caret Browsing

F7

Key commands for the Calendar app:

Accept Meeting Invitation

Alt+C

Decline Meeting Invitation

Alt+D

Tentative Meeting Invitation

Alt+N

Move to View

CTRL+SHIFT+V

Switch to the calendar in the mail app

CTRL+2

 

Well, I hope you get so much good out of this tutorial , and you can get a lot out of using the mail app, people, and calendar apps. You can do a lot with three apps. I would pin all three of them to the taskbar, and have them all opened at the same time

Take care,

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: adding an account using outlook 2010

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Arleen,

 

I think it's in the info tab if I'm not mistaken. You have to hit alt F to go to the file menu. You'll find the info tab there. If I'm wrong, someone else please jump in and correct me.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] adding an account using outlook 2010

 

Hi there: How does one find add account using outlook 2010?  For the life of me can’t find it. it’s something I don’t do often. Thanks.


adding an account using outlook 2010

Arlene
 

Hi there: How does one find add account using outlook 2010?  For the life of me can’t find it. it’s something I don’t do often. Thanks.


Re: NVDA training moduals?

Quentin Christensen
 

We haven't done anything to stop support for older versions of Office, but I don't think any of the lead developers have used say Office 2003 for awhile so if there is something which doesn't work, we might not have noticed it.  If you do find something that stops working, do definitely let us know or file a GitHub issue please so we are aware of it.

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 12:28 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi quentin.
i did not understand your last sentences if you use office 2003 and
above what they mean.
also is it realy unusable excel 2003 and 2007 with nvda 2017.2?
i followed github and realized that its support is again provided with
nvda 2017.3!
i am realy curious to know about supporting of excel 2003 and 2007
with nvda 2017.2
God bless you!

On 8/16/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
> The Basic Training for NVDA module (which covers getting around Windows and
> using most of the NVDA commands) is fairly OS agnostic - it doesn't go too
> in-depth into things like exactly where every option on the Start menu is
> for instance, although it does tell you about how to get around.  I tried
> to make it useable by someone using anything from Windows XP through to
> Windows 10 (including Windows 8).
>
> The Microsoft Word and Excel modules are written covering the features from
> Office 2010 through to the current 2016.  Although NVDA itself should still
> work with many features of Office 2003 (mostly hedging my bets there as I
> haven't used Office 2003 for awhile), we used Office 2010 - 2016 for the
> material simply to avoid bogging the instructions down with:
> - If using Office 2003, do ABC
> - If using Office 2007, do DEF
> - If using Office 2010, do GHI
> - If using Office 2013 or 16, do JKL
>
> Re Outlook, we haven't covered that in the first three modules, however the
> intention is that as long as the interest is there, I'd like to do modules
> for other Office applications - at this stage, they would again be written
> to Office 2010 - 2016.
>
> Regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 2:07 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <
> bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
>
>> As a matter of fact what are your feelings about people who might be
>> using
>> office 2003, and is there any info on Outlook on any windows version in
>> the
>> tutorials?
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> bglists@...
>> Sent via blueyonder.
>> Please address personal email to:-
>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>> in the display name field.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen" <
>> quentin@...>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 9:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA training moduals?
>>
>>
>>
>> If it's the official ones from: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ then yes,
>>> that's me.
>>>
>>> Unless it's about any errors in which case... actually yes, any errors
>>> are
>>> almost certainly me!
>>>
>>> Seriously, please do let me know any errors you find or questions you
>>> have.  Feel free to write to me either on the list here or off-list at
>>> quentin@....
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Quentin.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Gene New Zealand <
>>> hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> as far as i know Quentin writes them from nvaccess.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gene nz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 15/08/2017 18:17, The Wolf wrote:
>>>> > Hello on the nvda training moduals who does the tutorial on those?
>>>> >
>>>> > just curious.
>>>> >
>>>> > thanks
>>>> >
>>>> > Hank
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Quentin Christensen
>>> Training and Support Manager
>>>
>>> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
>>> available:
>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>>>
>>> Ph +61 7 3149 3306
>>> www.nvaccess.org
>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>>> Twitter: @NVAccess
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
> Ph +61 7 3149 3306
> www.nvaccess.org
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: NVDA training moduals?

 

hi quentin.
i did not understand your last sentences if you use office 2003 and
above what they mean.
also is it realy unusable excel 2003 and 2007 with nvda 2017.2?
i followed github and realized that its support is again provided with
nvda 2017.3!
i am realy curious to know about supporting of excel 2003 and 2007
with nvda 2017.2
God bless you!

On 8/16/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
The Basic Training for NVDA module (which covers getting around Windows and
using most of the NVDA commands) is fairly OS agnostic - it doesn't go too
in-depth into things like exactly where every option on the Start menu is
for instance, although it does tell you about how to get around. I tried
to make it useable by someone using anything from Windows XP through to
Windows 10 (including Windows 8).

The Microsoft Word and Excel modules are written covering the features from
Office 2010 through to the current 2016. Although NVDA itself should still
work with many features of Office 2003 (mostly hedging my bets there as I
haven't used Office 2003 for awhile), we used Office 2010 - 2016 for the
material simply to avoid bogging the instructions down with:
- If using Office 2003, do ABC
- If using Office 2007, do DEF
- If using Office 2010, do GHI
- If using Office 2013 or 16, do JKL

Re Outlook, we haven't covered that in the first three modules, however the
intention is that as long as the interest is there, I'd like to do modules
for other Office applications - at this stage, they would again be written
to Office 2010 - 2016.

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 2:07 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <
bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

As a matter of fact what are your feelings about people who might be
using
office 2003, and is there any info on Outlook on any windows version in
the
tutorials?

Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen" <
quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA training moduals?



If it's the official ones from: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ then yes,
that's me.

Unless it's about any errors in which case... actually yes, any errors
are
almost certainly me!

Seriously, please do let me know any errors you find or questions you
have. Feel free to write to me either on the list here or off-list at
quentin@nvaccess.org.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Gene New Zealand <
hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

Hi


as far as i know Quentin writes them from nvaccess.


Gene nz



On 15/08/2017 18:17, The Wolf wrote:
Hello on the nvda training moduals who does the tutorial on those?

just curious.

thanks

Hank








--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: A Text Tutorial on the Mail, People, and Calendar Apps from David Moore

 


Thank you, I think of format this as an *.html file for easy navigating. I'll do this when I have time.
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----- Original Message -----
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Subject: [nvda] A Text Tutorial on the Mail, People, and Calendar Apps from David Moore

Hi all,

Here, pasted right in this message, is a very understandable, easy to follow, and a step by step tutorial that I did on the Win10 Mail, People, and Calendar Apps.

Please let me know if you have any questions as you do the steps that are in the tutorial.

Here it is, pasted right below:

Here is the start of the tutorial.

Tutorial on the Win10 Mail, People, and Calendar Apps

By

David Moore

All key commands for all three apps, Mail, People, and Calendar, are at the end of this tutorial.

Intruduction:

 

I will Let you know this first. When you import your email accounts into the win10 Mail app,

your contacts are automatically imported into the People app. All calendar information, is imported into the Calendar app.

So, if you want to work with your contacts, you have to do so in the people app and not the mail app. Think of it like this. Three apps work together to give you that MS outlook client experience.

The people app has all of your contacts. The mail app is where you work with and send your email messages. The Calendar app has all of your appointments and much more.

Now, while you are in the win10 mail app, you can switch to the Calendar app or the People app.

Many of the commands are the same as in WLM.

Mail for Windows 10 supports most types of email services.  You can add any of these Microsoft accounts:

Exchange, Office 365, Outlook.com, Hotmail, Live.com, and MSN.com.  You can also add any of these accounts:

Gmail, Yahoo Mail, iCloud, or an account with a POP or IMAP server.

 

Section One

Launching the Windows 10 Mail App

So, let us consider how you can launch the mail app for the first time. The way I did it, was to press the windows key or CTRL+Escape and type mail. I heard windows mail app trusted windows store app.

Now, press enter, and the mail app will open. There you go, you have launched the mail app for the first time. The first time you open Mail, you'll land on the Welcome screen. Press Enter on Get Started. Now, you are ready to start using the Win10 Mail App. If you have a Microsoft Account, your MS email account should already be imported into the mail app.

 

Section Two:

Putting the Mail, Calendar, and People apps on your Desktop, or pinning them to your taskbar:

Finally, let us begin to learn how to use these three apps.

You may want to pin all three apps, Mail, Calendar, and People, to your taskbar, or put them on your desktop as short cuts.

To put them as short cuts on your Desktop, press Windows key+R to open the run dialog.

just type:

shell:appsfolder

In a second, all of your apps will be in a list. Just press the first letter of the one you want until you hear, Mail, for example.

Now, press your applications key or Shift+F10.

Now, press the up arrow key once to hear:

Create short cut.

Enter on that, and you will hear:

Short cut cannot be created here, do you want to put it on the desktop instead?

Just press enter, and the Mail app will be on your Desktop.

To pen it to the taskbar, just press the Windows Key or CTRL+Escape and type Mail, for example.

When you hear Mail, just press the appllications key or Shift+F10 and arrow down to:

Pin to taskbar and press enter.

The Mail app will be on your Taskbar.

You can do the same for the Calendar and People apps.

 

Section Three

A Few Key Commands to get started:

Here are a few commands to use the mail app. Tab key: The tab key will get you anywhere you need to go in the mail app. Also, F6 will take you to different sections of the app. These three apps, mail, people, and calendar apps have been made so accessible, that you can use the PC cursor with JAWS. Also, no object navigation needs to be done in these three apps with NVDA. Narrator works great as well.

When you read messages with Narrator, Scan mode needs to be activated by pressing:

Caps Lock+Spacebar.

That command toggles the Scan Mode on and off with Narrator.

You only want to turn on Scan Mode to read messages.

You want it off the rest of the time. Even when you type a message, Scan Mode needs to be turnned off.

Scan Mode is just for reading.

When a message is opened with JAWS, you are put in a virtual viewer so you can use the virtual cursor, just like in a web page.

Now, to work with messages:

to send your message, press

alt+S.

To reply to a message:

press ctrl+R.

to forward a message:

press CTRL+F.

to create a new message:

press CTRL+N.

As you type the email address, choices will populate to choose from.

To insert an attachment, press Alt+I.

You can then brows for the file you want to attach.

All other key commands for all three of these apps, will be put at the end of this tutorial.

 

Section Four:

Importing your first account into the Mail App

Now, let us add our first account.

From the list of messages for your MS account, tab to manage accounts and press enter.

If you do not have an MS email account imported in to the Mail app, just Tab to Manage Accounts and press enter.

Next, tab to the Add account button and press enter.

You will be in a list of account types you can add. In the Choose an account dialog, use the Down Arrow key to go through the list of account types (Outlook.com, Exchange, Google, Yahoo Mail, and so

on). When you hear the name of your account type, press Enter. For example, if you want to add a Gmail account, press enter on Google. Next, Enter the email address for the account that you want to add. Now, tab to the password box, and enter your password.

Press the Tab key to move to the Sign in button and press enter.

Now, press enter again on the:

done button.

Your email account should import into the Mail app in seconds, and your emails will be in your in box from the last three months.

Now, if it does not work to import an account by choosing Google, for example, any account will import into this choice:

Go to the account choice:

other account, IMAP or POP.

Any account, Pop or IMAP, will import under this choice, even a Google account.

Only a few POP email Accounts will have to be imported by hand with all of the settings.

For most accounts, your email and password will be enough to import the account.

The last account choice, is the advanced account. Enter on this last choice if you need to enter in all of your account settings by hand.

The only reason why you need the advanced account choice is to import a few older POP 3 accounts and set them up by hand.

To import all of your accounts:

Just follow the same instructions written above.

You will need to press enter on Manage Accounts, and enter on Add account, for each account you import.

It is important that you know that your contacts for your accounts, are imported into the People app.

You can get to the People App right from the Mail app.

Also, all calendar data partaning to your accounts, is imported into the Calendar App.

This is how all three apps work together to give you the entire Email Client experience.

After you add your accounts, notice in the manage accounts menu, you will see a choice to link accounts. This means, that you could have all messages from all of your accounts go into one inbox. I would not do this. Each account should have its own inbox.

Now, let us press enter on one of the accounts that you just added and see what happens.

If you press enter on one of your accounts, there is a choice to delete the account if you decide you do not want it in the mail app anymore.

Also, if you press enter on the sync settings, you will see that your emails from three months ago will import. You can change this if you want.

Also, You can change some settings about how the emails are synced in the mail app, but I would not mess with that at all.

Now, just press escape to get out of that, and you will be back in your list of accounts. Press escape to close the manage accounts pane.

We are all done with the Manage accounts option.

 

Section Five:

Navigating the Maiol App with the Tab Key

Now, we have all of our accounts imported intothe Mail App.

Make sure that you are on a folder list of messages for one of your accounts.

A list of messages will be our starting point, and we will begin to tab.

Now I will Tab.

I am on my list of emails for my MS Outlook account.

Tabbing:

I hear Navigation button collapsed.

You want to press enter to hear:

Navigation button expanded.

If you do not do this, you will not see everything in the Mail app.

Tab again, and you hear:

New Mail Button.

This is what you activate by pressing the key command:

CTRL+N

You do not need this button.

Tab: and you hear:

Manage accounts.

That is where we just were when you imported and customized all of your email accounts.

Tab:

You will see a list of all of your accounts once you import them into the Mail app.

If you press enter on an account, the In Box of messages for that account will open and you are put in the inbox of messages.

Now, we will tab from your list of accounts.

You have Folders Button.

Sub Section:

Folders Button.

When you press enter on Folders Button, there is a lot you can do in here.

In this Sub Section, We will talk about all you can do after you press enter on Folders Button.

Press enter on Folders Button:

The first thing you will be on, is a virticle list of all of your folders for that email account.

You can just up and down arrow to the folder you want, and press enter.

You are then put right in the list of messages for that folder.

Instead of pressing enter on a folder, if you tab once, you can press enter on:

Create New Folder

As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name of the new folder.

This will create a new folder for that account.

This is all in the Folders Button.

Press enter on Folders Button, again, if you are not still in that pane.

On your list of folders, you can arrow to a folder, and press:

Applications Key or Shift+F10.

You can now down arrow through the following choices:

Add to Favorites Button

Pressing Enter will put that folder on your favorites list of folders, so you do not have to keep coming into the Folders Button to find a folder.

Next choice when pressing applications Key:

, Create new subfolder Button

Pressing enter on that choice, will allow you to create a sub folder under that main folder you arrowed to.

As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name of the sub folder, and press enter.

The third choice:

Rename Button

The fourth choice:

Delete Button

Pressing enter there wil delete the folder.

Fifth Choice:

Move Button

Sixth Choice:

Empty folder Button

Seventh and last Choice:

Pin to Start Button

To review:

When you arrow to a folder, you can press:

Applications Key or Shift+F10,

and you get a menu of seven choices listed above.

You can press enter on any of those choices to do the action that it says.

We are all done with the Folders Button.

Now, make sure that you are on the Folders Button, and we will start tabbing again.

If you tab from the Folders Button,

You are on your list of Favorite Folders I mentioned.

You can just arrow down through this list of folders that you chose to be your favorite folders.

You do not have to enter on the Folders Button to get to these.

They are right here in a list.

I have my In Box folder, Sent Folder, Trash Folder, and a Saved folder that I created, in my Favorites list.

I keep those four folders in that favorites list, so I do not have to keep pressing enter on the Folders Button to get to those Folders.

I can just tab over to this list of four folders that I use the most.

Pressing enter on one of those four folders will put me right in the list of messages for that folder.

You always get put right on the list of messages when you enter on any folder.

Now, we will tab from this favorites list, and we get:

Moore Button.

This is the exact copy of the Folders Button LOL!

Forget the More Button LOL!

Tab again:

Switch to Calendar Button:

Tab:

Switch to People Button:

Pressing enter on one of those buttons, will Open one of those apps.

You can have all three opened at the same time.

Tab:

Settings Button:

 

Sub Section:

We have important stuff here, if we press enter on Settings Button, so this will be another sub section, like Folders Button.

Settings Button

Press Enter on Settings Button.

Now, let us look at the settings in the mail app. There are some settings that you might want to change or work with in these groups of settings . The two groups of settings you should open are the reading and signature settings. Do not mess with the other groups of settings.

Reading Settings

There are two choices you might want to change in this settings group.

You can check or uncheck carrot browsing.

I would leave carrot browsing unchecked in the reading settings group.

Now, in this reading group, there is also a button that turns on and off conversation view.

You definitely want this button checked, because your messages will be grouped into their respective threads.

You can delete the entire thread if your messages are in conversation view.

Press enter on the back button to close the reading group.

Each group of Settings has a back button you can press enter on to get out of that group, and you are taken back to the groups of settings.

Signature Settings Group:

This is the only other group of settings where you need to do anything.

Press Enter on Signature Settings.

In here, you can add a signature, or check all accounts to have the same signature

If you check to have a signature, and press Tab, there is a signature that is there by default.

It says:

sent from mail for windows 10.

If you want to create your own signature, check the signature, and over right that default signature to add your own signature you want to appear after every message that you send.

You can have different signatures for each account, or have the same signature for all accounts by checking all accounts.

If you want no signature, you can just press Spacebar to uncheck the signature toggle.

Press the Back Button, to get out of the Signature Settings Group.

If you press:

Escape

You are back on the Settings Button, where we were tabbing across the Mail App.

That is pretty much all I would worry about in settings.

There are just a few more tabs, before we are back to the list of messages.

Tab from Settings Button:

There is a search edit box.

If you type any name, or phrase, and so on in that search box,

it will narrow down the list of email messages that have that Name or phrase in them.

This is a great way to find a particular message very quickly.

I use this a lot.

You can get right to that search box,

by pressing:

CTRL+E

You do not have to tab to that LOL!

Tab, and you have:

Sync this View Button.

If you press that, your messages will load more quickly, but they load quickly anyway for me, and I do not have to press enter on that:

sync this View button.

Tab again, and you have:

Enter Selection Mode Button.

This is important.

When you press enter on that button, you are on your list of messages in that folder, but now, there is a difference.

There is now a check box before each message that you can press spacebar on to check that message. You can check as many messages as you want.

Now, if you shift tab twice, you are back to where the:

Enter sellection Mode Button was.

Now, there is a check box there that says, Select all, check box not checked.

you can press spacebar to check all of your messages. You have to tab twice to get back to the list of messages, but now, they are all checked.

After you check messages, you can press the:

applications Key or Shift+F10

and you will have the following choices:

Archive, Delete, Move, and a few less important choices in that context menu.

If you press enter on delete, all messages that are selected will be deleted. If you press enter on move, your list of all folders come up, and you can move your selected messages to another folder.

Just press enter on the folder, and the selected messages are moved to that folder.

 

Section Six:

Working with your messages:

Now, we can start working with with our email messages for what ever account you pick from the list of accounts. All the accounts will be in a virticle list, and you just press enter on what ever account you want to work with, and you will be placed in the inbox and the messages will load.

Here we go LOL!

Let us arrow through the messages in the inbox and read some of our messages.

Just enter on the message you want to open. To read messages with NVDA, you must be in brows mode.

When you type a message, you must be in focus mode.

The only time you want to be in Brows Mode, is to read the messages. To attach a file to the message, for example, you want to be in Focus mode with NVDA.

With Narrator, you want to be in scan mode to read messages.

To do everything else, even type a message, you need to turn off scan mode. Narrator works very well with the mail app.

Now, with JAWS, you are put in a virtual environment just like on the Internet. The virtual PC cursor, will allow you to select and copy information that is right in the message.

when you are done reading that message, just press escape to get out of the message and back to the list of messages

You do not have to do anything with JAWS to do all that you want to do in the mail app, even type a message.

Now, let me give you some important key commands right here.

tab gets you anywhere in the mail app you want to be. Tabbing will get you to the list of your accounts, and the folders button, that you enter on to get a full list of folders for that account. When you are on the list of folders, tab to the more button and press enter to do more with your folders, like create a new folder. To create a sub folder for a particular folder Tab to the more button again, and press enter. Down arrow to creat a sub folder. and arrow to which folder you want to create the sub folder for and tab to create, and press enter. . Now, you can type the name of the sub folder you want, and press enter. That is how you create a sub folder of a folder that is already there. When you are on a message in the list, you can press the applications key or shift+F10 and get choices of what you can do with that message. One of these choices is move. If you enter on move, you will get a list of folders you can move that message to. I created a folder called saved messages. So when I want to save a message, I just move the message to my saved messages folder. If you press delete, the message goes in the trash folder. To send a message, press ctrl+N. You are put in the to: edit box. Just type in the email, tab to subject, and tab to write your message. To send a message, press Alt+S, and you are back on the list of messages in your inbox. After you open a message and read it, you can reply to it by pressing CTRL+R. Just type your message, and press alt+S to send your reply. You will be in the list of messages, and just press the delete key to delete that message. To forward a message, just press ctrl+F. To spell check your message before sending, just press F7.

Tabs on the ribbon of the mail app:

Here we go with the ribbon. When you are in a message, three tabs show up on the ribbon. Just press the alt key to get to the ribbon. The first tab you will hear is the format tab. Right arrow to the insert tab, and right arrow again to the third and last tab, the options tab. Now, if you press alt a second time while you are still in the mail app, you will be on the tab that you were last working with. If you were working with the options tab lastly, the options tab will show up, and you will have to left arrow to get back to insert and format. You do wrap around in a circle with a couple of other choices in there as you wrap. On any of these tabs, just press the down arrow to get to all of the choices for that tab. Then, press tab to tab through all of the choices. For example, to insert an attachment into an email, press the alt key, and arrow to the insert tab. Then, press the down arrow, and you are right on the files choice. It will not say attach, this is very important. Pressing down arrow on the insert tab, allows you to insert different things into your email. Remember, you can just press:

Alt+I to attach a file.

To attach anything else, you must go to the insert tab on the ribbon. The ribbon is not important, unless you want to insert different things into the email, or if you want to format the email.

Other choices to insert, are table, link, and so on. These are different things that you can insert in your email. Press enter on files, and you can brows your computer to find a file to insert or attach, and press enter on the open button. Now, you are put back on your message you are composing. If you press Shift+tab one time, you will be on your file that you attached to your email. That is how people will find your attachments. They will just shift tab to hear all of the files you inserted or attached to your email. Now, Use Shift+Tab again to move focus to the subject line, and press Shift+Tab again to hear the sender’s name. In other words, when you are in a message, press Shift+tab to hear all of the information like the subject, the sender, the time and date, and so on. There are not key commands to read this information to you like in other clients. When you finish reading the message, press the Escape key to return to the message list. That is the key. If you just press escape, you go back to your list of messages. If you press delete on a message in the list, it goes to the trash folder right away. Now, if you select some text in your email, just press alt, and arrow to the format tab, and press down arrow to the format choices if you want to format your email. just tab through the choices. There are many, you can do about anything here to format your email text. For example, if you down arrow on the format tab, there will be choices to bold, underline, and to do other things to the text that you select in your email that you are composing. Now, for the options tab, the third and last tab, you will not need to use, but feel free to check out the options. The option for Spell Checking, is the same as pressing F7 in your message. Now, here is the thing about spell checking in the mail app. You can go to the win10 settings app, by pressing windows+I to have win10 correct much of your spelling as you type. This only works though, in a win10 app. The mail app qualifies for that. So, in settings, arrow to the devices group and press enter. Then, go to the type choice and press enter. Check two check boxes. The first says something like correct spelling, and the second one says something like high light words that are misspelled. Check those two check boxes and press enter. Now, when you are in the mail app, most of the words will be automatically corrected as you type them. However, this feature will not correct all misspelled words. This is where you press F7 to do a total spell check. Important: There is not a way to have the mail app spell check every message automatically when you send it like with WLM. You definitely have to spell check every message that you compose before you send it just like with each document in Word.

Well, we have covered everything with the mail app itself.

Now, I will show you quickly how to use the people app and calendar app, and then you can use all three apps together as one email client.

People app:

Launch the People app, and tab a few times. You will tab by a new button, where you can manually enter the information for a new contact. If you tab passed the new button, you will come to a list of contacts. You cannot use first letter navigation to jump to a certain contact, but here is what you can do. Tab one more time, and you will be in a list of letters of the alphabet. Again, you cannot use first letter navigation, like you can now use in the all apps. Just arrow down to the letter you want, and shift+tab back to the list of contact starting with that letter. Find the name you want, and tab a few more times. There will be an edit where you can edit the contact's information. Tab passed that, and you will come to profile. Tab one more time, and you will be on their email. To copy that email, you have to press the applications key, or shift+F10, and press enter on copy. You will then have that person's email copied to the clip board. You can go to the mail app, and paste that into the to: edit box to send them an email. That is it with the people app. Remember, your contacts are imported into the people app. As you type an email into the mail app, the populated choices come from the people app.

Calendar app:

Launch the calendar app, and press alt+ctrl+4 to get into month view. You are put on a grid of days of the week. You will land on to day. It will say the date as well. For example, you will hear Friday, October 28. You also hear how many events are linked with that day, like birthday's of your contacts and so on. Tab to each event, and press enter on the event to get the details of the event. If you shift+tab, you will go back to the day of those events. If you press right and left arrow, you will go forward a day or back a day. Up arrow takes you a week before from that day, and downarrow takes you a week ahead of that day. If you want to schedule an event for a certain day, just press enter on that day, and a dialog will come up for you to enter all of the information for the appointment or event, and there is an okay or done button. There you go! That is how you read days, the events for those days, and how to schedule an event for that day. That is about it for the calendar app.

 

Here are many keyboard shortcuts to use all three apps:

Account Manual Sync (Send and retrieve new mail)

CTRL+M

Or

F9

Mark as read

CTRL+Q

Mark as unread

CTRL+U

Toggle the important property on a conversation

CTRL+SHIFT+G

Delete a conversation

CTRL+D

Or

DEL

Archive a conversation

BACKSPACE

Reply to current mail

CTRL+R

Reply all

CTRL+SHIFT+R

Forward current mail

CTRL+F

Search

CTRL+E

Or

F3

Create a new mail

CTRL+N

Or

CTRL+SHIFT+M

Add Attachment

ALT+I

Send mail

ALT+S

Or

Ctrl + Enter

Switch to Inbox

CTRL+SHIFT+I

Switch to Outbox

CTRL+SHIFT+O

Zoom in

CTRL++ (Plus key on numpad)

Zoom out

CTRL+- (Minus key on numpad)

Move between regions

F6

Toggle Caret Browsing

F7

Key commands for the Calendar app:

Accept Meeting Invitation

Alt+C

Decline Meeting Invitation

Alt+D

Tentative Meeting Invitation

Alt+N

Move to View

CTRL+SHIFT+V

Switch to the calendar in the mail app

CTRL+2

 

Well, I hope you get so much good out of this tutorial , and you can get a lot out of using the mail app, people, and calendar apps. You can do a lot with three apps. I would pin all three of them to the taskbar, and have them all opened at the same time

Take care,

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: NVDA training moduals?

Quentin Christensen
 

The Basic Training for NVDA module (which covers getting around Windows and using most of the NVDA commands) is fairly OS agnostic - it doesn't go too in-depth into things like exactly where every option on the Start menu is for instance, although it does tell you about how to get around.  I tried to make it useable by someone using anything from Windows XP through to Windows 10 (including Windows 8).

The Microsoft Word and Excel modules are written covering the features from Office 2010 through to the current 2016.  Although NVDA itself should still work with many features of Office 2003 (mostly hedging my bets there as I haven't used Office 2003 for awhile), we used Office 2010 - 2016 for the material simply to avoid bogging the instructions down with:
- If using Office 2003, do ABC
- If using Office 2007, do DEF
- If using Office 2010, do GHI
- If using Office 2013 or 16, do JKL

Re Outlook, we haven't covered that in the first three modules, however the intention is that as long as the interest is there, I'd like to do modules for other Office applications - at this stage, they would again be written to Office 2010 - 2016.

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 2:07 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
As a matter of fact what are your feelings about people who might be using office 2003, and is there any info on Outlook on any windows version in the tutorials?

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA training moduals?



If it's the official ones from: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ then yes,
that's me.

Unless it's about any errors in which case... actually yes, any errors are
almost certainly me!

Seriously, please do let me know any errors you find or questions you
have.  Feel free to write to me either on the list here or off-list at
quentin@....

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Gene New Zealand <
hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi


as far as i know Quentin writes them from nvaccess.


Gene nz



On 15/08/2017 18:17, The Wolf wrote:
> Hello on the nvda training moduals who does the tutorial on those?
>
> just curious.
>
> thanks
>
> Hank
>
>
>
>
>







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Re: Slightly OT - Rearranging/reorganising icons on windows 10 desktop, using NVDA, etc.

chris miles
 

On 15/08/2017 09:25, Jacob Kruger wrote:
I reloaded my windows 10 creators machine from scratch this past weekend myself - thanks to Microsoft for now allowing you to launch narrator right after installation disk boots up - but, now on my new version of the desktop, for example, my user folder is not situated at the top left corner of the desktop, and, while this is not the end of the world, I am just somewhat used to hitting home key to focus on it, and, was wondering if anybody had tricks related to rearranging icons on the desktop?

As in, I know can play around with turning on/off grid view, auto-arrange, etc. via context menu on desktop area, and, can turn on/off some system icons via desktop display settings, but, when it comes down to trying to reorder icons in a certain order, unless I tried renaming all of them one at a time, and hoping auto-arrange would cooperate, am not sure what the simplest way to handle this is, and, if it's really possible without sighted help anyway?

Suppose could otherwise also try out drag-and-drop, working with golden cursor add-on, but, thought may as well first ask.

And, yes, this is not of major importance, but, was just wondering...<smile>

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile"




Hi,


To see the user files on your desktop:-


1. Press Windows key and I (settings)

2. Tab with left tab once - gives 9 options (I think)

3. Choose Personalisation

4.Choose Themes

5. Tab to Desktop Icons and press enter

6. You are now presented with a list of desktop icons - to add these to your desktop simply CHECK the icon you would like to have on the desktop

7 Press OK.


You will now see Jacob at the top of your desktop - when you open this it will show all your user files.


Cheers;


Re: query

Gene
 

I would recommend having it unchecked  The reason is that if you have this option checked, you may make a temporary change to deal with a specific situation you don't want to be a general setting and accidentally make it permanent.  Also, you can experiment and not accidentally make an experimental setting permanent.  I think it’s a much better idea to manually save changes if you want them saved. 
 
There are times I change something for a specific purpose such as to speed up or slow down speech when reading certain material, change punctuation temporarily, temporarily change verbosity about what is spoken when I'm on a web page, and perhaps other things I haven't thought of now.  In none of these cases, do  I intend for the changes to be permanent.  I always have NVDA set not to save on exit.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

Go to the general settings and check if save configuration on exit is unchecked. If you want, check it. Otherwise, you can press Control+NVDA+C to save the changes.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 2:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

Hi list

Can somebody explain to me why when I exit n v d a and upload it again it doesn’t keep the voice settings plese?

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: 15 August 2017 21:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: query

 

Personally, I think the sleep mode works better

because if you move to another window wile Kurzweil 1000 is still running, nvda comes back without haveng to turn speach mode on.

From: Dave Bahr

Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 8:10 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Yes, that worked, the speech mode toggle. Thanks.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Some years ago, I asked this same question, and I was given some lines of text to write, but for the life of me, can't remember where or how, but since then, when using kurzweil1000 with NVDA, NVDA doesn't talk. I think i saved the file with a certain name, but for the life of me, can't remember how this was done.

 

El 15/08/2017 a las 01:23 p.m., Arlene escribió:

Oh! I’ll have to give that a try!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: August-15-17 11:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Put nvda to sleep by holding down the insert and control keys and press the letter S.

 

From: Dave Bahr

Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:00 PM

Subject: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Hi, is there a way to silence nvda while using an independent speech program like Kurzweil 1000? That way I don’t have two eloquence synths going at once? Which is kind of psychedelic sounding but not very productive.

 

Thanks, Dave

 

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Enviado desde Thunderbird

 


Re: query

Andre Fisher
 

Go to the general settings and check if save configuration on exit is unchecked. If you want, check it. Otherwise, you can press Control+NVDA+C to save the changes.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 2:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

Hi list

Can somebody explain to me why when I exit n v d a and upload it again it doesn’t keep the voice settings plese?

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: 15 August 2017 21:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: query

 

Personally, I think the sleep mode works better

because if you move to another window wile Kurzweil 1000 is still running, nvda comes back without haveng to turn speach mode on.

Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 8:10 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Yes, that worked, the speech mode toggle. Thanks.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Some years ago, I asked this same question, and I was given some lines of text to write, but for the life of me, can't remember where or how, but since then, when using kurzweil1000 with NVDA, NVDA doesn't talk. I think i saved the file with a certain name, but for the life of me, can't remember how this was done.

 

El 15/08/2017 a las 01:23 p.m., Arlene escribió:

Oh! I’ll have to give that a try!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: August-15-17 11:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Put nvda to sleep by holding down the insert and control keys and press the letter S.

 

Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:00 PM

Subject: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Hi, is there a way to silence nvda while using an independent speech program like Kurzweil 1000? That way I don’t have two eloquence synths going at once? Which is kind of psychedelic sounding but not very productive.

 

Thanks, Dave

 

-- 
Gera
Enviado desde Thunderbird

 


A Text Tutorial on the Mail, People, and Calendar Apps from David Moore

David Moore
 

Hi all,

Here, pasted right in this message, is a very understandable, easy to follow, and a step by step tutorial that I did on the Win10 Mail, People, and Calendar Apps.

Please let me know if you have any questions as you do the steps that are in the tutorial.

Here it is, pasted right below:

Here is the start of the tutorial.

Tutorial on the Win10 Mail, People, and Calendar Apps

By

David Moore

All key commands for all three apps, Mail, People, and Calendar, are at the end of this tutorial.

Intruduction:

 

I will Let you know this first. When you import your email accounts into the win10 Mail app,

your contacts are automatically imported into the People app. All calendar information, is imported into the Calendar app.

So, if you want to work with your contacts, you have to do so in the people app and not the mail app. Think of it like this. Three apps work together to give you that MS outlook client experience.

The people app has all of your contacts. The mail app is where you work with and send your email messages. The Calendar app has all of your appointments and much more.

Now, while you are in the win10 mail app, you can switch to the Calendar app or the People app.

Many of the commands are the same as in WLM.

Mail for Windows 10 supports most types of email services.  You can add any of these Microsoft accounts:

Exchange, Office 365, Outlook.com, Hotmail, Live.com, and MSN.com.  You can also add any of these accounts:

Gmail, Yahoo Mail, iCloud, or an account with a POP or IMAP server.

 

Section One

Launching the Windows 10 Mail App

So, let us consider how you can launch the mail app for the first time. The way I did it, was to press the windows key or CTRL+Escape and type mail. I heard windows mail app trusted windows store app.

Now, press enter, and the mail app will open. There you go, you have launched the mail app for the first time. The first time you open Mail, you'll land on the Welcome screen. Press Enter on Get Started. Now, you are ready to start using the Win10 Mail App. If you have a Microsoft Account, your MS email account should already be imported into the mail app.

 

Section Two:

Putting the Mail, Calendar, and People apps on your Desktop, or pinning them to your taskbar:

Finally, let us begin to learn how to use these three apps.

You may want to pin all three apps, Mail, Calendar, and People, to your taskbar, or put them on your desktop as short cuts.

To put them as short cuts on your Desktop, press Windows key+R to open the run dialog.

just type:

shell:appsfolder

In a second, all of your apps will be in a list. Just press the first letter of the one you want until you hear, Mail, for example.

Now, press your applications key or Shift+F10.

Now, press the up arrow key once to hear:

Create short cut.

Enter on that, and you will hear:

Short cut cannot be created here, do you want to put it on the desktop instead?

Just press enter, and the Mail app will be on your Desktop.

To pen it to the taskbar, just press the Windows Key or CTRL+Escape and type Mail, for example.

When you hear Mail, just press the appllications key or Shift+F10 and arrow down to:

Pin to taskbar and press enter.

The Mail app will be on your Taskbar.

You can do the same for the Calendar and People apps.

 

Section Three

A Few Key Commands to get started:

Here are a few commands to use the mail app. Tab key: The tab key will get you anywhere you need to go in the mail app. Also, F6 will take you to different sections of the app. These three apps, mail, people, and calendar apps have been made so accessible, that you can use the PC cursor with JAWS. Also, no object navigation needs to be done in these three apps with NVDA. Narrator works great as well.

When you read messages with Narrator, Scan mode needs to be activated by pressing:

Caps Lock+Spacebar.

That command toggles the Scan Mode on and off with Narrator.

You only want to turn on Scan Mode to read messages.

You want it off the rest of the time. Even when you type a message, Scan Mode needs to be turnned off.

Scan Mode is just for reading.

When a message is opened with JAWS, you are put in a virtual viewer so you can use the virtual cursor, just like in a web page.

Now, to work with messages:

to send your message, press

alt+S.

To reply to a message:

press ctrl+R.

to forward a message:

press CTRL+F.

to create a new message:

press CTRL+N.

As you type the email address, choices will populate to choose from.

To insert an attachment, press Alt+I.

You can then brows for the file you want to attach.

All other key commands for all three of these apps, will be put at the end of this tutorial.

 

Section Four:

Importing your first account into the Mail App

Now, let us add our first account.

From the list of messages for your MS account, tab to manage accounts and press enter.

If you do not have an MS email account imported in to the Mail app, just Tab to Manage Accounts and press enter.

Next, tab to the Add account button and press enter.

You will be in a list of account types you can add. In the Choose an account dialog, use the Down Arrow key to go through the list of account types (Outlook.com, Exchange, Google, Yahoo Mail, and so

on). When you hear the name of your account type, press Enter. For example, if you want to add a Gmail account, press enter on Google. Next, Enter the email address for the account that you want to add. Now, tab to the password box, and enter your password.

Press the Tab key to move to the Sign in button and press enter.

Now, press enter again on the:

done button.

Your email account should import into the Mail app in seconds, and your emails will be in your in box from the last three months.

Now, if it does not work to import an account by choosing Google, for example, any account will import into this choice:

Go to the account choice:

other account, IMAP or POP.

Any account, Pop or IMAP, will import under this choice, even a Google account.

Only a few POP email Accounts will have to be imported by hand with all of the settings.

For most accounts, your email and password will be enough to import the account.

The last account choice, is the advanced account. Enter on this last choice if you need to enter in all of your account settings by hand.

The only reason why you need the advanced account choice is to import a few older POP 3 accounts and set them up by hand.

To import all of your accounts:

Just follow the same instructions written above.

You will need to press enter on Manage Accounts, and enter on Add account, for each account you import.

It is important that you know that your contacts for your accounts, are imported into the People app.

You can get to the People App right from the Mail app.

Also, all calendar data partaning to your accounts, is imported into the Calendar App.

This is how all three apps work together to give you the entire Email Client experience.

After you add your accounts, notice in the manage accounts menu, you will see a choice to link accounts. This means, that you could have all messages from all of your accounts go into one inbox. I would not do this. Each account should have its own inbox.

Now, let us press enter on one of the accounts that you just added and see what happens.

If you press enter on one of your accounts, there is a choice to delete the account if you decide you do not want it in the mail app anymore.

Also, if you press enter on the sync settings, you will see that your emails from three months ago will import. You can change this if you want.

Also, You can change some settings about how the emails are synced in the mail app, but I would not mess with that at all.

Now, just press escape to get out of that, and you will be back in your list of accounts. Press escape to close the manage accounts pane.

We are all done with the Manage accounts option.

 

Section Five:

Navigating the Maiol App with the Tab Key

Now, we have all of our accounts imported intothe Mail App.

Make sure that you are on a folder list of messages for one of your accounts.

A list of messages will be our starting point, and we will begin to tab.

Now I will Tab.

I am on my list of emails for my MS Outlook account.

Tabbing:

I hear Navigation button collapsed.

You want to press enter to hear:

Navigation button expanded.

If you do not do this, you will not see everything in the Mail app.

Tab again, and you hear:

New Mail Button.

This is what you activate by pressing the key command:

CTRL+N

You do not need this button.

Tab: and you hear:

Manage accounts.

That is where we just were when you imported and customized all of your email accounts.

Tab:

You will see a list of all of your accounts once you import them into the Mail app.

If you press enter on an account, the In Box of messages for that account will open and you are put in the inbox of messages.

Now, we will tab from your list of accounts.

You have Folders Button.

Sub Section:

Folders Button.

When you press enter on Folders Button, there is a lot you can do in here.

In this Sub Section, We will talk about all you can do after you press enter on Folders Button.

Press enter on Folders Button:

The first thing you will be on, is a virticle list of all of your folders for that email account.

You can just up and down arrow to the folder you want, and press enter.

You are then put right in the list of messages for that folder.

Instead of pressing enter on a folder, if you tab once, you can press enter on:

Create New Folder

As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name of the new folder.

This will create a new folder for that account.

This is all in the Folders Button.

Press enter on Folders Button, again, if you are not still in that pane.

On your list of folders, you can arrow to a folder, and press:

Applications Key or Shift+F10.

You can now down arrow through the following choices:

Add to Favorites Button

Pressing Enter will put that folder on your favorites list of folders, so you do not have to keep coming into the Folders Button to find a folder.

Next choice when pressing applications Key:

, Create new subfolder Button

Pressing enter on that choice, will allow you to create a sub folder under that main folder you arrowed to.

As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name of the sub folder, and press enter.

The third choice:

Rename Button

The fourth choice:

Delete Button

Pressing enter there wil delete the folder.

Fifth Choice:

Move Button

Sixth Choice:

Empty folder Button

Seventh and last Choice:

Pin to Start Button

To review:

When you arrow to a folder, you can press:

Applications Key or Shift+F10,

and you get a menu of seven choices listed above.

You can press enter on any of those choices to do the action that it says.

We are all done with the Folders Button.

Now, make sure that you are on the Folders Button, and we will start tabbing again.

If you tab from the Folders Button,

You are on your list of Favorite Folders I mentioned.

You can just arrow down through this list of folders that you chose to be your favorite folders.

You do not have to enter on the Folders Button to get to these.

They are right here in a list.

I have my In Box folder, Sent Folder, Trash Folder, and a Saved folder that I created, in my Favorites list.

I keep those four folders in that favorites list, so I do not have to keep pressing enter on the Folders Button to get to those Folders.

I can just tab over to this list of four folders that I use the most.

Pressing enter on one of those four folders will put me right in the list of messages for that folder.

You always get put right on the list of messages when you enter on any folder.

Now, we will tab from this favorites list, and we get:

Moore Button.

This is the exact copy of the Folders Button LOL!

Forget the More Button LOL!

Tab again:

Switch to Calendar Button:

Tab:

Switch to People Button:

Pressing enter on one of those buttons, will Open one of those apps.

You can have all three opened at the same time.

Tab:

Settings Button:

 

Sub Section:

We have important stuff here, if we press enter on Settings Button, so this will be another sub section, like Folders Button.

Settings Button

Press Enter on Settings Button.

Now, let us look at the settings in the mail app. There are some settings that you might want to change or work with in these groups of settings . The two groups of settings you should open are the reading and signature settings. Do not mess with the other groups of settings.

Reading Settings

There are two choices you might want to change in this settings group.

You can check or uncheck carrot browsing.

I would leave carrot browsing unchecked in the reading settings group.

Now, in this reading group, there is also a button that turns on and off conversation view.

You definitely want this button checked, because your messages will be grouped into their respective threads.

You can delete the entire thread if your messages are in conversation view.

Press enter on the back button to close the reading group.

Each group of Settings has a back button you can press enter on to get out of that group, and you are taken back to the groups of settings.

Signature Settings Group:

This is the only other group of settings where you need to do anything.

Press Enter on Signature Settings.

In here, you can add a signature, or check all accounts to have the same signature

If you check to have a signature, and press Tab, there is a signature that is there by default.

It says:

sent from mail for windows 10.

If you want to create your own signature, check the signature, and over right that default signature to add your own signature you want to appear after every message that you send.

You can have different signatures for each account, or have the same signature for all accounts by checking all accounts.

If you want no signature, you can just press Spacebar to uncheck the signature toggle.

Press the Back Button, to get out of the Signature Settings Group.

If you press:

Escape

You are back on the Settings Button, where we were tabbing across the Mail App.

That is pretty much all I would worry about in settings.

There are just a few more tabs, before we are back to the list of messages.

Tab from Settings Button:

There is a search edit box.

If you type any name, or phrase, and so on in that search box,

it will narrow down the list of email messages that have that Name or phrase in them.

This is a great way to find a particular message very quickly.

I use this a lot.

You can get right to that search box,

by pressing:

CTRL+E

You do not have to tab to that LOL!

Tab, and you have:

Sync this View Button.

If you press that, your messages will load more quickly, but they load quickly anyway for me, and I do not have to press enter on that:

sync this View button.

Tab again, and you have:

Enter Selection Mode Button.

This is important.

When you press enter on that button, you are on your list of messages in that folder, but now, there is a difference.

There is now a check box before each message that you can press spacebar on to check that message. You can check as many messages as you want.

Now, if you shift tab twice, you are back to where the:

Enter sellection Mode Button was.

Now, there is a check box there that says, Select all, check box not checked.

you can press spacebar to check all of your messages. You have to tab twice to get back to the list of messages, but now, they are all checked.

After you check messages, you can press the:

applications Key or Shift+F10

and you will have the following choices:

Archive, Delete, Move, and a few less important choices in that context menu.

If you press enter on delete, all messages that are selected will be deleted. If you press enter on move, your list of all folders come up, and you can move your selected messages to another folder.

Just press enter on the folder, and the selected messages are moved to that folder.

 

Section Six:

Working with your messages:

Now, we can start working with with our email messages for what ever account you pick from the list of accounts. All the accounts will be in a virticle list, and you just press enter on what ever account you want to work with, and you will be placed in the inbox and the messages will load.

Here we go LOL!

Let us arrow through the messages in the inbox and read some of our messages.

Just enter on the message you want to open. To read messages with NVDA, you must be in brows mode.

When you type a message, you must be in focus mode.

The only time you want to be in Brows Mode, is to read the messages. To attach a file to the message, for example, you want to be in Focus mode with NVDA.

With Narrator, you want to be in scan mode to read messages.

To do everything else, even type a message, you need to turn off scan mode. Narrator works very well with the mail app.

Now, with JAWS, you are put in a virtual environment just like on the Internet. The virtual PC cursor, will allow you to select and copy information that is right in the message.

when you are done reading that message, just press escape to get out of the message and back to the list of messages

You do not have to do anything with JAWS to do all that you want to do in the mail app, even type a message.

Now, let me give you some important key commands right here.

tab gets you anywhere in the mail app you want to be. Tabbing will get you to the list of your accounts, and the folders button, that you enter on to get a full list of folders for that account. When you are on the list of folders, tab to the more button and press enter to do more with your folders, like create a new folder. To create a sub folder for a particular folder Tab to the more button again, and press enter. Down arrow to creat a sub folder. and arrow to which folder you want to create the sub folder for and tab to create, and press enter. . Now, you can type the name of the sub folder you want, and press enter. That is how you create a sub folder of a folder that is already there. When you are on a message in the list, you can press the applications key or shift+F10 and get choices of what you can do with that message. One of these choices is move. If you enter on move, you will get a list of folders you can move that message to. I created a folder called saved messages. So when I want to save a message, I just move the message to my saved messages folder. If you press delete, the message goes in the trash folder. To send a message, press ctrl+N. You are put in the to: edit box. Just type in the email, tab to subject, and tab to write your message. To send a message, press Alt+S, and you are back on the list of messages in your inbox. After you open a message and read it, you can reply to it by pressing CTRL+R. Just type your message, and press alt+S to send your reply. You will be in the list of messages, and just press the delete key to delete that message. To forward a message, just press ctrl+F. To spell check your message before sending, just press F7.

Tabs on the ribbon of the mail app:

Here we go with the ribbon. When you are in a message, three tabs show up on the ribbon. Just press the alt key to get to the ribbon. The first tab you will hear is the format tab. Right arrow to the insert tab, and right arrow again to the third and last tab, the options tab. Now, if you press alt a second time while you are still in the mail app, you will be on the tab that you were last working with. If you were working with the options tab lastly, the options tab will show up, and you will have to left arrow to get back to insert and format. You do wrap around in a circle with a couple of other choices in there as you wrap. On any of these tabs, just press the down arrow to get to all of the choices for that tab. Then, press tab to tab through all of the choices. For example, to insert an attachment into an email, press the alt key, and arrow to the insert tab. Then, press the down arrow, and you are right on the files choice. It will not say attach, this is very important. Pressing down arrow on the insert tab, allows you to insert different things into your email. Remember, you can just press:

Alt+I to attach a file.

To attach anything else, you must go to the insert tab on the ribbon. The ribbon is not important, unless you want to insert different things into the email, or if you want to format the email.

Other choices to insert, are table, link, and so on. These are different things that you can insert in your email. Press enter on files, and you can brows your computer to find a file to insert or attach, and press enter on the open button. Now, you are put back on your message you are composing. If you press Shift+tab one time, you will be on your file that you attached to your email. That is how people will find your attachments. They will just shift tab to hear all of the files you inserted or attached to your email. Now, Use Shift+Tab again to move focus to the subject line, and press Shift+Tab again to hear the sender’s name. In other words, when you are in a message, press Shift+tab to hear all of the information like the subject, the sender, the time and date, and so on. There are not key commands to read this information to you like in other clients. When you finish reading the message, press the Escape key to return to the message list. That is the key. If you just press escape, you go back to your list of messages. If you press delete on a message in the list, it goes to the trash folder right away. Now, if you select some text in your email, just press alt, and arrow to the format tab, and press down arrow to the format choices if you want to format your email. just tab through the choices. There are many, you can do about anything here to format your email text. For example, if you down arrow on the format tab, there will be choices to bold, underline, and to do other things to the text that you select in your email that you are composing. Now, for the options tab, the third and last tab, you will not need to use, but feel free to check out the options. The option for Spell Checking, is the same as pressing F7 in your message. Now, here is the thing about spell checking in the mail app. You can go to the win10 settings app, by pressing windows+I to have win10 correct much of your spelling as you type. This only works though, in a win10 app. The mail app qualifies for that. So, in settings, arrow to the devices group and press enter. Then, go to the type choice and press enter. Check two check boxes. The first says something like correct spelling, and the second one says something like high light words that are misspelled. Check those two check boxes and press enter. Now, when you are in the mail app, most of the words will be automatically corrected as you type them. However, this feature will not correct all misspelled words. This is where you press F7 to do a total spell check. Important: There is not a way to have the mail app spell check every message automatically when you send it like with WLM. You definitely have to spell check every message that you compose before you send it just like with each document in Word.

Well, we have covered everything with the mail app itself.

Now, I will show you quickly how to use the people app and calendar app, and then you can use all three apps together as one email client.

People app:

Launch the People app, and tab a few times. You will tab by a new button, where you can manually enter the information for a new contact. If you tab passed the new button, you will come to a list of contacts. You cannot use first letter navigation to jump to a certain contact, but here is what you can do. Tab one more time, and you will be in a list of letters of the alphabet. Again, you cannot use first letter navigation, like you can now use in the all apps. Just arrow down to the letter you want, and shift+tab back to the list of contact starting with that letter. Find the name you want, and tab a few more times. There will be an edit where you can edit the contact's information. Tab passed that, and you will come to profile. Tab one more time, and you will be on their email. To copy that email, you have to press the applications key, or shift+F10, and press enter on copy. You will then have that person's email copied to the clip board. You can go to the mail app, and paste that into the to: edit box to send them an email. That is it with the people app. Remember, your contacts are imported into the people app. As you type an email into the mail app, the populated choices come from the people app.

Calendar app:

Launch the calendar app, and press alt+ctrl+4 to get into month view. You are put on a grid of days of the week. You will land on to day. It will say the date as well. For example, you will hear Friday, October 28. You also hear how many events are linked with that day, like birthday's of your contacts and so on. Tab to each event, and press enter on the event to get the details of the event. If you shift+tab, you will go back to the day of those events. If you press right and left arrow, you will go forward a day or back a day. Up arrow takes you a week before from that day, and downarrow takes you a week ahead of that day. If you want to schedule an event for a certain day, just press enter on that day, and a dialog will come up for you to enter all of the information for the appointment or event, and there is an okay or done button. There you go! That is how you read days, the events for those days, and how to schedule an event for that day. That is about it for the calendar app.

 

Here are many keyboard shortcuts to use all three apps:

Account Manual Sync (Send and retrieve new mail)

CTRL+M

Or

F9

Mark as read

CTRL+Q

Mark as unread

CTRL+U

Toggle the important property on a conversation

CTRL+SHIFT+G

Delete a conversation

CTRL+D

Or

DEL

Archive a conversation

BACKSPACE

Reply to current mail

CTRL+R

Reply all

CTRL+SHIFT+R

Forward current mail

CTRL+F

Search

CTRL+E

Or

F3

Create a new mail

CTRL+N

Or

CTRL+SHIFT+M

Add Attachment

ALT+I

Send mail

ALT+S

Or

Ctrl + Enter

Switch to Inbox

CTRL+SHIFT+I

Switch to Outbox

CTRL+SHIFT+O

Zoom in

CTRL++ (Plus key on numpad)

Zoom out

CTRL+- (Minus key on numpad)

Move between regions

F6

Toggle Caret Browsing

F7

Key commands for the Calendar app:

Accept Meeting Invitation

Alt+C

Decline Meeting Invitation

Alt+D

Tentative Meeting Invitation

Alt+N

Move to View

CTRL+SHIFT+V

Switch to the calendar in the mail app

CTRL+2

 

Well, I hope you get so much good out of this tutorial , and you can get a lot out of using the mail app, people, and calendar apps. You can do a lot with three apps. I would pin all three of them to the taskbar, and have them all opened at the same time

Take care,

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: office365

 

probably not but if it does, as soon as you install the latest office it will put them back.

On 16/08/2017 4:01 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
well the question then is, will the uninstall of 2007, unregister the dll files. Unfortunately, its how long is a piece of string time again. mybe, maybe not. Set a restore point and make a back up just in case. However there are fixes as has been mentioned.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Tomblin" <dtomblin@hotmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] office365


because the 2007 is a trial version I never activated it and i've
already paid for 365 just haven't gotten around to installing it until now
On 8/15/2017 3:37 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Why do you want to install the new product? To be honest the old
adage, if its not broken don't fix it comes to mind. New lamps for old
may be alluring, but ask yourself if you will use any of the new bits
and indeed whether you want to tie yourself into paid updates of a new
version.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Tomblin"
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 6:40 AM
Subject: [nvda] office365


Hi, I have a couple questions. when I bought my laptop several years ago
it came with office 2007 i'm thinking about unistalling it and putting
office365 on it. I was wondering if this would break nvda since reading
some posts on here. where do I go to install 365 is in the store. thanks

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Re: How to drive Optelec/Tieman Braille Voyager?

mattias
 

https://bitbucket.org/bram/nvda-voyager/get/tip.zip

 

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Skickat: den 15 augusti 2017 16:25
Till: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Ämne: Re: [nvda] How to drive Optelec/Tieman Braille Voyager?

 

It's quite old, you will need BRLTTY.

 

2017-08-15 15:49 GMT+02:00, 高生旺 <coscell@...>:

> Hello

> Does someone know how to let Braille Voyager working for nvda?

> Thanks!

>

 

 

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Re: How to drive Optelec/Tieman Braille Voyager?

mattias
 

Yes there should be a old driver somewhere on the net

Not for 64 bit windows

 

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It's quite old, you will need BRLTTY.

 

2017-08-15 15:49 GMT+02:00, 高生旺 <coscell@...>:

> Hello

> Does someone know how to let Braille Voyager working for nvda?

> Thanks!

>

 

 

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NVDA doesn't save voice settings when closed

Gene
 

I'll provide a posssible solution to your problem.  I changed the subject line because it is the same subject line as the previous thread. 
 
NVDA is set, by default to save any changed setting when it closes. For some reason, yours isn't.  This may be because you changed an NVDA setting or it may be some other problem.  After you change the settings, use the command NVDA key control c to save the settings.  You would do this after you activate the ok button.  Then, see what happens when you close and run NVDA again.
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

Hi list

Can somebody explain to me why when I exit n v d a and upload it again it doesn’t keep the voice settings plese?

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: 15 August 2017 21:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: query

 

Personally, I think the sleep mode works better

because if you move to another window wile Kurzweil 1000 is still running, nvda comes back without haveng to turn speach mode on.

From: Dave Bahr

Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 8:10 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Yes, that worked, the speech mode toggle. Thanks.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Some years ago, I asked this same question, and I was given some lines of text to write, but for the life of me, can't remember where or how, but since then, when using kurzweil1000 with NVDA, NVDA doesn't talk. I think i saved the file with a certain name, but for the life of me, can't remember how this was done.

 

El 15/08/2017 a las 01:23 p.m., Arlene escribió:

Oh! I’ll have to give that a try!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: August-15-17 11:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Put nvda to sleep by holding down the insert and control keys and press the letter S.

 

From: Dave Bahr

Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:00 PM

Subject: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Hi, is there a way to silence nvda while using an independent speech program like Kurzweil 1000? That way I don’t have two eloquence synths going at once? Which is kind of psychedelic sounding but not very productive.

 

Thanks, Dave

 

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Re: query

Gene
 

Please start a new thread when starting a new topic.  Don't just reply to a message, change the subject line, and leave all the extraneous completely unrelated material below the message.  The reason I say to start a new message rather than just change the subject line is because if you do that, for technical reasons I don't know, in the archives the message is still placed in the old thread.  I don't know what happens if people read mail on their machines by conversation. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

Hi list

Can somebody explain to me why when I exit n v d a and upload it again it doesn’t keep the voice settings plese?

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: 15 August 2017 21:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: query

 

Personally, I think the sleep mode works better

because if you move to another window wile Kurzweil 1000 is still running, nvda comes back without haveng to turn speach mode on.

From: Dave Bahr

Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 8:10 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Yes, that worked, the speech mode toggle. Thanks.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Some years ago, I asked this same question, and I was given some lines of text to write, but for the life of me, can't remember where or how, but since then, when using kurzweil1000 with NVDA, NVDA doesn't talk. I think i saved the file with a certain name, but for the life of me, can't remember how this was done.

 

El 15/08/2017 a las 01:23 p.m., Arlene escribió:

Oh! I’ll have to give that a try!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: August-15-17 11:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Put nvda to sleep by holding down the insert and control keys and press the letter S.

 

From: Dave Bahr

Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:00 PM

Subject: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Hi, is there a way to silence nvda while using an independent speech program like Kurzweil 1000? That way I don’t have two eloquence synths going at once? Which is kind of psychedelic sounding but not very productive.

 

Thanks, Dave

 

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Re: silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

Gene
 

Also, if there is an error message from Windows related to Kurzweil such as a crash message, it will be read.  And, as I said in an earlier message, you can't use the numpad with Kurzweil if you use the speech toggle.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

Personally, I think the sleep mode works better
because if you move to another window wile Kurzweil 1000 is still running, nvda comes back without haveng to turn speach mode on.
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000
 

Yes, that worked, the speech mode toggle. Thanks.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Some years ago, I asked this same question, and I was given some lines of text to write, but for the life of me, can't remember where or how, but since then, when using kurzweil1000 with NVDA, NVDA doesn't talk. I think i saved the file with a certain name, but for the life of me, can't remember how this was done.

 

El 15/08/2017 a las 01:23 p.m., Arlene escribió:

Oh! I’ll have to give that a try!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: August-15-17 11:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Put nvda to sleep by holding down the insert and control keys and press the letter S.

 

From: Dave Bahr

Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:00 PM

Subject: [nvda] silencing nvda while using kurzweil 1000

 

Hi, is there a way to silence nvda while using an independent speech program like Kurzweil 1000? That way I don’t have two eloquence synths going at once? Which is kind of psychedelic sounding but not very productive.

 

Thanks, Dave



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