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I couldn't subscribe to devlearning. [Mailer-Daemon@mailbox.supranet.net: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender]
John J. Boyer
I tried to subscribe to devlearning@devlearning.nvda.groups.io The message was returned to me with the error "unroutable
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Re: clarification on downloading and using RC versions of NVDA
Ashley Wayne
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Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 9:35 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] clarification on downloading and using RC versions of NVDA
As everyone else has said, the RC (and Next and Master) builds work exactly like the regular stable build. After it first loads, you are given a screen with the license agreement. Once you check the checkbox to agree to that, you can install it or create a portable version. You can also choose "Continue", which keeps running the new version, you can use it just like a portable version (there are a couple of limitations with portable versions, such as not working on secure screens like the Windows logon screen).
If you install the RC build, when the final stable version is released, it will prompt to update to that (or any other RC build in the meantime - occasionally we go to RC2 if problems are found) and then you'll be back on the "stable" branch.
Regards
Quentin.
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Re: Did something change in the groups.IO interface?
Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
Subgroups are just that, they're under the main group, but indipendent of it, so nobody is subscribed automatically, you need to subscribe to it if you want to receive it's messages. Currently, there are subgroups for chat, devlearning, and list matters. You can see the subgroups at: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/subgroups and you can see the one specifically for the devlearning at: https://nvda.groups.io/g/devlearning You can subscribe on that page if so desired. Hope this helps.
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Re: clarification on downloading and using RC versions of NVDA
Quentin Christensen
As everyone else has said, the RC (and Next and Master) builds work exactly like the regular stable build. After it first loads, you are given a screen with the license agreement. Once you check the checkbox to agree to that, you can install it or create a portable version. You can also choose "Continue", which keeps running the new version, you can use it just like a portable version (there are a couple of limitations with portable versions, such as not working on secure screens like the Windows logon screen). If you install the RC build, when the final stable version is released, it will prompt to update to that (or any other RC build in the meantime - occasionally we go to RC2 if problems are found) and then you'll be back on the "stable" branch. Regards Quentin.
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Re: Did something change in the groups.IO interface?
Brian's Mail list account
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Reading this thread, I have to ask this. What is a
sub group. IE if no action is taken by me, does this sub group come in via email
or is it, in fact a new group/list and I'd have to subscribe to that as
well.
Which leads me to..
What sub groups are there already and where
can I see a list and instructions on how to subscribe to them?
Brian
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Re: clarification on downloading and using RC versions of NVDA
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Suggestion. Before you burn your bridges try a
portable version and see what you get. If you also create a portable version of
the current on then you can go back and still have your old config.
Brian
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Re: skype is getting a remake <sigh>
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Even before Microsoft took it on though they have a track record of fixing one thing then screwing up something else. If its the same team doing the work there is obviously not enough QA going on since its free then I guess they assume you get what you pay for. If there was a garanteed accessible messaging system with audio then I'd not be too worried about the cost as long as it was a once only payment. I do not like this rental lark people are trying to force downour throats recently.
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using nvda with winrar
Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
I've mentioned winrar on this list before, but I've also seen posts in the past where folks claimed winrar wasn't accessible, so here's an article I wrote to explain how to use winrar with NVDA. There is an html version located at http://www.softcon.com/files/winrar.html
and the text version is pasted in below. Hope folks find it useful. Using NVDA with winrar Winrar is a completely accessible file archiver similar to winzip or 7zip, created by rarlabs (http://www.rarlab.com). The difference is that it not only handles rar archives, but it can be used as a general file explorer program, too, and that is what this article will focus on. When you launch winrar, you are presented with a general file view similar to windows explorer. By default though, winrar offers more information than windows explorer does, and this is primarily the reason I like it. I know explorer can be adjusted to show more information, and winrar can also be adjusted to show less information as well by unchecking details in the settings menu on the file list tab, though I like it the way it is by default. Winrar will also start up using the same directory you were last viewing when it starts, though this is configurable via the settings menu. I personally like this option, since it allows me to leave winrar in a directory I use often, and know it will start there next time I run it. You can also add favorites to winrar, and even scan programs for viruses using any installed virus scanners already on your system. It's quite the versatile program, and the fact that it's 100 percent accessible is simply a huge plus. Just like explorer, you'll have all the items on your computer, cd drives, hard disks, and any usb drives you've plugged in, as well as any network shares you've mounted. Navigating winrar is as simple as using the arrow keys as well as page up and page down to move up and down the list of files. First letter navigation is also possible, just press any letter of your choice, and winrar will jump to the first file/directory with that letter. Pressing it again will move to the next one in line and so on. When you get to a directory or archive file you want to navigate into, simply press the enter key, and the view changes to the new directory. To get back out of the directory you're currently browsing, you can either scroll to the top of the list, then press enter on the two dots there (this means parent directory), or you can simply use the control- pageup key to get back much more quickly). By default, directories are listed first, then files (sorted by extension) with archive files being listed first. This means that if you have multiple files with the same name, but different extensions, they will show up in different parts of the list. I like this arrangement, but if you don't, it's possible to change this behavior by changing the sort order via the menus. Winrar will launch programs (just like windows explorer), load text or doc files into word or notepad, or open pdf files using adobe, just like windows explorer does, but the real power of winrar becomes apparent when you get to an archive you want to manipulate. When you find an archive file you'd like to view, simply press enter on it, and winrar will treat the file just like it's a directory on the disk, allowing you to use the archive file (zip, rar, arj, 7z, and so on) exactly as if it were just another directory on the drive, even to the point of viewing documentation, and executing programs. The problem though is that if you use this method to run an executable, it may or may not work, depending on the program, and how it handles it's data files (if any), because of being executed from within the archive. Winrar will execute programs not inside archives just fine. Winrar will allow you to extract a text or doc file, edit that file, then resave it back into the archive when you're done, which makes for some handy disk usage savings. In most cases though, when you're working with archive files, you will want to extract those archives so that you can work with them or install the programs, or whatever it is you want to do, and lucky for us, winrar has lots of ways to do this. One of the reasons winrar is so accessible, is because it has keystrokes for nearly every function you'd ever want to perform. For example, extracting an archive is alt-E or alt-W (depending on whether you wish to specify where it is extracted to or not), and creating an archive from the currently highlighted directory or file is alt-A. alt-T will test an archive, alt-R will perform recovery on an archive, and many many more. In fact, you can accomplish nearly everything you need to do using just key combinations, it's almost never necessary to use mouse or screen reader functions to accomplish what you need. So, just for tutorial purposes, let's create an archive, and lock the archive against tampering. (note, locking archives is only available in the registered version). First, we'll select a directory. Any directory will do, I'm going to use my documents directory for this example, but this will work for any directory you like. First, navigate to your documents directory, then press enter to enter the directory. Verify that this is the directory we want. Once you've convinced yourself that you're in the right place, winrar has a nice keystroke that will take you back to the directory so you don't have to page/arrow up to the top, then press enter to get out of the directory, and that is control-pageUp. Once you're back on the documents directory, just press alt-A (or use the applications key, and select add to archive). Winrar will prompt you for the archive name, which will default to documents.rar. Now, at this point, press tab and you can work your way through all the various options for creating your archive. You can select the archive type (rar, rar version 5, and zip are the defaults). Yes, rar can create zip files too. Rar5 is the new archive type for rar, which is not compatible with earlier versions of rar, so if you or whoever receives the file doesn't have winrar version 5 or later, they won't be able to uncompress the file. This may or may not be what you want, depending on how security conscious you are, so feel free to choose whatever option you like, as long as you know the possible down sides to selecting them. The next option is the type of archive. I won't go into detail here, but real quick, the options are: store, fastest, fast, normal, good and best. In general, these options range from no compression at all, to give me the most compression you can, so that my archive is as small as possible. Each option takes more memory, and longer to execute. The next option is dictionary size, and without getting into a lot of technical details which most people don't care about, the dictionary size determines how effective rar will be when compressing data, if it finds duplicate data in the each block, it can compress it better, so in general, the larger the block, the better the compression, with the trade off that the larger the dictionary, the longer it will take to actually do the compressing, because it has more data to search through each time it wants to compress a new piece of data. It's generally best to leave the defaults here (on my machine using best compression, it's 4 megabyte blocks), but that will vary depending on compression type, and other factors. the next two tabs are an option to split your archive into specific sizes. For example, if you're compressing a large video file that is several hundred gigabytes, and you only have 4 gigabyte dvd disks to save it on, rar can split the file into multiple chunks, so that you can copy each individual chunk to a different disk and store it that way, or if you are trying to upload a file to dropbox or some other online file storage system, and they have a file size restriction, winrar can solve that problem for you by making the archive the exact size you need, and splitting it into multiple files. The first one asks you the size, and the second one asks whether you specified the size in bytes, kilobytes, megabytes, or gigabytes. So, if you are using the split option, this gives you a way to designate the archive size precisely so you won't have any confusion over the actual archive sizes. The next set of options are various options that will affect either the archive, or the files you're archiving. You have options such as: delete files after archiving, (good for saving space on your hard drive on low resource pcs), Create a self extracting archive, (this means that your rar file will be turned into an executable so that people who don't have rar can still extract your archive). Create solid archive, (Usually this option compresses better at the expense of time) Add recovery record (this makes your archives a bit larger, but allows them to still extract properly, even if the archive gets damaged) test archive files (ensures the files were compressed properly, generally not needed unless you're archiving from unstable media) Lock archive (Allows the archive to be locked against changes of any kind after it's created) and finally set password (allows you to password protect the archive) After you've configured your new archive the way you want it, tab to the ok button, and away it goes. While the archiving is taking place, winrar will present you with three buttons, Background (which will move winrar to the system tray, and remove it from the alt-tab sequence; and the other buttons are Pause archiving, and cancel. When the archiving is complete, you will now have a new file in the current directory with the name you selected in the previous step, and if you selected background, winrar will then reappear in the alt-tab sequence, and also show you any errors it encountered during the archiving process. (note, this is the only inaccessible part of winrar, for some reason, the view used to show errors isn't accessible to NVDA, but you can use the log function to see any errors.) That's all there is to it. Winrar is easy to use, and has some very nice features that make it a great general file viewer, as well as an excellent archive maintainer. If you'd like to get a complete list of winrar functions and settings, F-10 will do it, it presents you with a nice organized multitab settings view that allows you to view or change virtually everything about winrar and how it works. Below are a list of the more common functions and their key combinations. These key combinations are usually available from anywhere, though occasionally, they will work when winrar is in particular modes (for example, the extract archive obviously won't work if you're not looking at an archive file). Most of these functions are also available using the applications (or context if you prefer) key which is the one on the right side of the space bar between the alt and control keys on most windows keyboards. Delete file : delete rename file : F2 menu : F10 Print file : control-i Settings : control-s Change drive : control-d set password : control-p Add files to archive : alt-a Extract to specified directory : alt-e extract without confirmation : alt-w Lock archive : alt-l add comment to archive : alt-m Repair archive : alt-r protect archive : alt-p Test archive : alt-t show information : alt-i View file : alt-v If you forget any of these keys, you can use the menus to find the options you want. (of which F10 is only the master menu key) alt-f : file menu alt-c : commands menu alt-s : tools menu alt-o : favorites alt-n : options alt-h : help Some functions are only available in the registered version, but since I've been a registered rar user for many years now, I have no idea which functions aren't present in the non registered version. I realize this was a rather quick and dirty examination of winrar functions, but I hope it was enough to convince you that winrar is well worth taking a look see to verify for yourself whether it can handle your file browsing and archiving needs. If there are questions, or comments, feel free to send them to me, and I'd be glad to update this article with modifications and additional information that folks would like to see. Feel free to repost this article where you like, as long as you give credit to me (Travis Siegel) as the originator.
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Re: the windows 1 core voices are very slow
Brian's Mail list account
Several people seem to be saying this. Do they speed up if you use them in Narrator?
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From: "brian" <sackriderbrian45@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 2:50 AM Subject: [nvda] the windows 1 core voices are very slow I only have 3 voices in the windows 1 core and they are very slow I tried setting the rate to 100 and the voices are much slower than 80 on the api voices. They also have a very waver to them. Sounds like a flutter. The 3 voices that I have are David, Sera thats what it sounds like and Mark but no George. I will stick to the api voices.
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Re: 2017.3 RC1
Ashley Wayne
Ahh thank you. I should have thought to look at the user guide, my apologies.
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From: Andre Fisher
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 8:09 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] 2017.3 RC1
For other options, you would need to download the speech packages from Microsoft Web site. This is taken directly from the user guide: 13.5. Windows OneCore Voices Windows 10 includes new voices known as "OneCore" or "mobile" voices. Voices are provided for many languages, and they are more responsive than the Microsoft voices available using Microsoft Speech API version 5. Please see this Microsoft article for a list of available voices and instructions to install them: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/22797/windows-10-narrator-tts-voices Please note that the faster rates available with Narrator are not currently available with NVDA. Also, the speed you select in the Windows Settings affects the rate set in NVDA. These are issues we cannot resolve without changes to Windows. We are hopeful that these will be addressed in a future Windows update. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Ashley Wayne
I wish I had that many voice options lol. For the OneCore voices I only have david, cira and mark. I am liking david but other choices would be nice.
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From: Quentin Christensen
Ok looking at mine:
If I set the Synthesizer to Microsoft Speech API Version 5. In the Voice Settings I can choose: - Microsoft David Desktop - Microsoft Hazel Desktop - Microsoft Zira Desktop
If I set the synthesizer to Windows OneCore Voices, I can go to Voice Settings and choose between: - Microsoft David - Microsoft George - Microsoft Hazel - Microsoft Susan - Microsoft Catherine - Microsoft Zira - Microsoft Mark - Microsoft James
The OneCore voices weren't available in 2017.2. They have been in Next and Master builds for a little while. I don't think Microsoft have changed the voices available in Windows 10 lately, but I'm running a fast insider build and I have English US, English Australian and possibly English UK languages installed with the appropriate speech packs.
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Re: New Member
hi.
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welcome to you the new users in the list. i hope that you are comfortable here, many people i found here very helpful and kind beyond my expectation. we are here to help each others and teach others useful things. i only use nvda screen reader, its extremely easier than jaws, i am grateful to God, also to nvda developers and supporters, pray for them sincerely every day.
On 8/18/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: 2017.3 RC1
Andre Fisher
For other options, you would need to download the speech packages from Microsoft Web site. This is taken directly from the user guide: 13.5. Windows OneCore Voices Windows 10 includes new voices known as "OneCore" or "mobile" voices. Voices are provided for many languages, and they are more responsive than the Microsoft voices available using Microsoft Speech API version 5. Please see this Microsoft article for a list of available voices and instructions to install them: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/22797/windows-10-narrator-tts-voices Please note that the faster rates available with Narrator are not currently available with NVDA. Also, the speed you select in the Windows Settings affects the rate set in NVDA. These are issues we cannot resolve without changes to Windows. We are hopeful that these will be addressed in a future Windows update. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Ashley Wayne
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 7:54 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] 2017.3 RC1
I wish I had that many voice options lol. For the OneCore voices I only have david, cira and mark. I am liking david but other choices would be nice.
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From: Quentin Christensen
Ok looking at mine:
If I set the Synthesizer to Microsoft Speech API Version 5. In the Voice Settings I can choose: - Microsoft David Desktop - Microsoft Hazel Desktop - Microsoft Zira Desktop
If I set the synthesizer to Windows OneCore Voices, I can go to Voice Settings and choose between: - Microsoft David - Microsoft George - Microsoft Hazel - Microsoft Susan - Microsoft Catherine - Microsoft Zira - Microsoft Mark - Microsoft James
The OneCore voices weren't available in 2017.2. They have been in Next and Master builds for a little while. I don't think Microsoft have changed the voices available in Windows 10 lately, but I'm running a fast insider build and I have English US, English Australian and possibly English UK languages installed with the appropriate speech packs.
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Re: 2017.3 RC1
Quentin Christensen
The OneCore voices are only included with Windows 10 (just as the new OCR functionality is).
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Re: the windows 1 core voices are very slow
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This will change in a future Windows 10 release, but until NVDA gets to use the new features, one can work around this by going to Settings/Ease of access and changing voice rate that way. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of brian Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 6:50 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] the windows 1 core voices are very slow I only have 3 voices in the windows 1 core and they are very slow I tried setting the rate to 100 and the voices are much slower than 80 on the api voices. They also have a very waver to them. Sounds like a flutter. The 3 voices that I have are David, Sera thats what it sounds like and Mark but no George. I will stick to the api voices. Brian Sackrider
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Re: 2017.3 RC1
hi quentin.
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do non windows ten users see windows one core voices in there synthesizer settings or not? thanks so much for your great screen reader and God bless you!
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Yes but they are the same that are in the microsoft api selection. --
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the windows 1 core voices are very slow
brian <sackriderbrian45@...>
I only have 3 voices in the windows 1 core and they are very slow I tried setting the rate to 100 and the voices are much slower than 80 on the api voices. They also have a very waver to them. Sounds like a flutter. The 3 voices that I have are David, Sera thats what it sounds like and Mark but no George. I will stick to the api voices.
Brian Sackrider
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Re: dictation bridge question.
Hi Ken,
dictationBridge has no connection to cortana. You need to go to the windows control panel and start speech-recognition from there. Hit ctrl+escape to get to the search box and then type windows speech-recognition one of the search results should be windows speech recognition desktop app. Activate that and hen follow the prompts.
Pranav
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Re: Cutting and pasting from wordpad to word in various modes
Gene
The real question is, to what extent should NVDA
developers and/or users provide Windows training. Keyboard shortcuts that
don't teach Windows would be next to worthless unless the user already knew
something about Windows and I see no reason that Windows teaching material
should be in the manual. but should it be provided and by whom?
Meantime, my point about one instance, not more, is
getting lost in the discussion.
If there were a systray dialog, that would be
taught because it would be an NVDA feature and would be a part of NVdA.
Yet when this feature is not provided two or three paragraphs describing how to
use the system tray when the traditional dialog is not provided aren't included
in the manual because there is no systray dialog any more and it is a Windows
function. A catch 22 if I ever saw one.
Gene
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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cutting and pasting from wordpad to word in
various modes Brian,
I think you are absolutely correct. I'd be happy to put together a
one page "Essential Windows keystrokes every user should know" document
today.... Except, who can decide on exactly which ones those are? Even
starting that program you use every day can be done (depending on your
setup):
- From a start menu search
- From a start menu item (or tile, depending on your Windows version)
- From a desktop icon
- From a taskbar quick launch item
- From a keystroke
I could spend a page going through just the keystrokes for all those, but
it would be overkill to show most users more than one way to do most tasks - but
which one?
Rui just mentioned that it is important for people to know how to select
non-contiguous files. Getting into File Explorer and selecting one or
several adjacent files is enough of a task for many users before throwing
non-contiguous files into the mix (I'm not saying it's not important, just that
it isn't one of the first tasks that would have jumped to my mind in preparing
such a paper).
And when creating such a key concepts document, is a basic list of
keystrokes enough? When showing someone who is learning the basics like
this, they often need a bit more guidance, which might be why new users aren't
quick to dive into the User Guide (not just for NVDA), but to write a more
in-depth guide makes it longer so covering just the key elements would be even
more important...
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote: On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 04:13 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote: Quentin
Christensen
Training and Support Manager Basic
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Re: I am interested in programming for NVDA
Bhavya shah
Hi Sally, Gene and others,
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Please add me to the list too. I have no experience with Python, but limited experience with HTML and Robot C. I would be eager to be part of such a group, whenever one is formed. Thanks.
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I am also interested in joining a community of beginners to Python. --
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Re: 2017.3 RC1
brian <sackriderbrian45@...>
Yes but they are the same that are in the microsoft api selection. Brian Sackrider
On 8/17/2017 9:18 PM, Rosemarie
Chavarria wrote:
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