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Re: Did something change in the groups.IO interface?

Sarah k Alawami
 

According to the groups.io beta and groups io forum list I'm on you must be subscribed to both the parent and child groups. I also believe that the message will go to both, yes. As my groups.io list does not have subgroups  I cannot test this.

Take care and hope that helps.

On Aug 18, 2017, at 7:40 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I believe also, near the end of the thread, a message was sent to the list giving the e-mail subscribe information.
 
Gene
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Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Did something change in the groups.IO interface?

Subgroups are just that, they're under the main group, but indipendent of it, so nobody is subscribed automatically, you need to subscribe to it if you want to receive it's messages.  Currently, there are subgroups for chat, devlearning, and list matters.  You can see the subgroups at:

https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/subgroups

and you can see the one specifically for the devlearning at:

https://nvda.groups.io/g/devlearning

You can subscribe on that page if so desired.

Hope this helps.



On 8/17/2017 11:28 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Reading this thread, I have to ask this. What is a sub group. IE if no action is taken by me, does this sub group come in via email or is it, in fact a new group/list and I'd have to subscribe to that as well.
 Which leads me to..
 What sub groups are there already and where can I see a list and instructions on how to subscribe to them?
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Did something change in the groups.IO interface?

Thanks.
 
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Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Did something change in the groups.IO interface?

You may not have permission. I will create the subgroup.

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 3:02 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
From what I read, this link should be on the main page.  I see no such link.  I don't know if I have permission to create subgroups.  Is this a specific activity that permission must be given for?
 
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Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Did something change in the groups.IO interface?

Hi,

Normally, if folks have permission, they can click “create a subgroup” link and it’ll let them create one.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 12:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Did something change in the groups.IO interface?

 

As it turns out, I still can't find where to create a subgroup.  I followed the link that says subgroups and only saw information about groups I am a member of and groups I can join.  I had previously done a Google search for start subgroup groups.io and read both help results and learned nothing specific about how to do this.  Nor have I found anything on the NVDA main page or the subgroups page that says anything about starting a subgroup.

 

Gene

 

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:45 PM

Subject: Did something change in the groups.IO interface?

 

I've been trying to create a subgroup but I can't see anything related to it in the interface.  Also, I don't see what I recall seeing before such as a link I saw before to see members and their status to help with things like unsubscribing.  I followed the NVDA main link and that's where I looked for these things.  Did something change in the interface?  I never had this kind of problem before.

 

Thanks for any information.

Gene

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Re: I couldn't subscribe to devlearning. [Mailer-Daemon@mailbox.supranet.net: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender]

 

Yet, on the Groups.io home page for NVDA there is an email address for a subgroup, devlearning@nvda.groups.io

I guess it's time for a bug report on the beta group.
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Re: looking for a free YouTube video downloader that supports playlists

Sarah k Alawami
 

You can use youtube-dl. It is a command line program that is fully accessible. You can even write a script that takes out the youtube ID as well. I love that piece of software.

Take care

On Aug 17, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:

Hello,
I'm looking for a YouTube video downloader that supports playlists, and that is NVDA accessible. I'm not looking for anything that converts, so don't want a program that automatically downloads and converts without saving the original video. I've been using Pontes, but that hasn't been as reliable lately. Thanks for any help.
Travis


Re: I couldn't subscribe to devlearning. [Mailer-Daemon@mailbox.supranet.net: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender]

 

Well, if this group exists on Groups.io I'll be darned if I can find where.  A group search on "devlearning" returns absolutely nothing, and here are the search results from searching groups for NVDA:  https://groups.io/search?q=NVDA 
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Re: the windows 1 core voices are very slow

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Lino,

I set my speech rate to 50 and now the one-core voices sound greatr. I really like the microsoft Mark voice.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 6:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the windows 1 core voices are very slow

I've posted back in May, but here it again. James Teh suggested to me to do the following. In the search box type speech. The 1st item you'll see is speech settings. Press Enter. Next set the speech rate to 50 or higher. Alt F4 out of that setting and now you can use the 1 Core voices and adjust the rate accordingly their.


On 8/17/2017 9:50 PM, brian wrote:
I only have 3 voices in the windows 1 core and they are very slow I
tried setting the rate to 100 and the voices are much slower than 80
on the api voices. They also have a very waver to them. Sounds like a
flutter. The 3 voices that I have are David, Sera thats what it
sounds like and Mark but no George. I will stick to the api voices.

Brian Sackrider




Re: Thanks for the help for the windows core 1 problem

Andre Fisher
 

The voices have always sounded like that. The mobile varieties at least. It’s what makes them faster than the SAPI5 ones.

 

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From: brian
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 10:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Thanks for the help for the windows core 1 problem

 

That did the trick I sat my speech rate in the windows speech settings

to 75 it's much faster but it still has that worble kind of like a

fluttery tape that sounds like it is getting eaten by your player. I

guess I'll have to wait until the next version of windows to fix this

problem.

 

Brian Sackrider

 

 

 

 


Thanks for the help for the windows core 1 problem

brian
 

That did the trick I sat my speech rate in the windows speech settings to 75 it's much faster but it still has that worble kind of like a fluttery tape that sounds like it is getting eaten by your player. I guess I'll have to wait until the next version of windows to fix this problem.

Brian Sackrider


Re: looking for a free YouTube video downloader that supports playlists

Kwork
 

Thanks. Now that I'm more awake, I'll play a bit more with things. Seems to be an amazing program, and I did realize that Pontes was using it already, but wondered if it was missing something in the process of doing something since it hasn't been updated in quite some time.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a free YouTube video downloader that supports playlists

Hi Travis,
Well actually, Youtube-DL also uses ffmpeg to do the conversions as well – Either that or LibAV. It also sometimes needs other utilities as well like RTMPDump, but pretty much, as long as you want to download original video content from YouTube, then YTDL is pretty much all you need.
Cheers.
Damien.
 
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a free YouTube video downloader that supports playlists
 

Just for reference, that ponts downloader uses youtube-dl, and ffmpeg to do the conversion, it's just a wrapper around those two programs, so it's truly no jump for you to switch to youtube-dl, since you've already been using it anyway, but just didn't know it.

 


On 8/18/2017 12:36 AM, Kwork wrote:
Hello,
I'm looking for a YouTube video downloader that supports playlists, and that is NVDA accessible. I'm not looking for anything that converts, so don't want a program that automatically downloads and converts without saving the original video. I've been using Pontes, but that hasn't been as reliable lately. Thanks for any help.
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Re: I couldn't subscribe to devlearning. [Mailer-Daemon@mailbox.supranet.net: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender]

Gene
 

I sent my last message to the wrong thread.  Here it is again in the right thread.
 
Gene
 
As far as I know, the list got a message about the subgroup and a subscription address was given.  You are using the wrong address and the correct address doesn't need to be shortened.  The correct address is:
devlearning+subscribe@nvda.groups.io
 

Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: John J. Boyer
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 11:02 PM
Subject: [nvda] I couldn't subscribe to devlearning. [Mailer-Daemon@...: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender]

I tried to subscribe to devlearning@devlearning.nvda.groups.io The message was returned to me with the error "unroutable
message." Am I using the wrong address? i think the name of the subgroup should be shortened to devlearn

See the forwarded message.

Thanks,
John

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Re: Has anyone been able to subscribe to devlearning.nvda.grolups.io

Ângelo Abrantes
 

He,

I was able to subscribe via e-Mail without any problem

Ângelo Abrantes
Às 13:48 de 18-08-2017, Travis Siegel escreveu:

I was able to subscribe via the web site, but I had to be logged into groups.io to do it.  I didn't try subscribing via email.



On 8/18/2017 7:57 AM, Chris wrote:

Sorry,

The subscription address is:

devlearning+subscribe@nvda.groups.io

 

 

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Sent: 18 August 2017 11:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Has anyone been able to subscribe to devlearning.nvda.grolups.io

 

I asked several questions on this fron earlier in the day but not seen a

reply yet.

Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Has anyone been able to subscribe to

devlearning.nvda.grolups.io

 

 

Subscribe email:

devlearning+subscribe@nvda.groups.io

 

 

 

From: John J. Boyer

Sent: 18 August 2017 08:00

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] Has anyone been able to subscribe to

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I sent a message to subscribe@devlearning.nvda.groups.io It was returned

with the error unrouteable address. What's

wrong?

 

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Re: I am interested in programming for NVDA

 


Is this discuss about making, or joining a group to learn programming base on NVDA? If so, please add me, or so me the address to subscribe.
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Hello,

Please add me too.

Best
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Am 18.08.2017 um 10:30 schrieb Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...>:

Hi Sally,

please add me as well,

cheers,

  Ralf

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sally Kiebdaj
Sent: Donnerstag, 17. August 2017 19:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am interested in programming for NVDA

Hello,

Alright then.

We will wait on a decision for the NVDA group and I will compile interested people by next week.

Once those two things are done, we can look at materials for learning.

Some things have already been suggested on this thread and we can discuss more once we have our own space that doesn't fill others inboxes.

Thanks again!

Sally

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

I have asked Gene if we can have a subgroup for beginning devs.

Cheers,

Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sally Kiebdaj
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:31 AM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am interested in programming for NVDA

Hello all,

sorry to respond only daily.

I have a nice mix of private and public messages now which I am happy to organize into a headcount.

As I understand our purpose, we are people with little or no programming background who want to learn programming through python. Some of us also want to eventually work on NVDA--provided we learn python successfully.

We are looking for some experience people to help coach. Some of the experienced people have a programming background but are learning python along with us and others have both programming and python experience.

To sum up, we are mostly starting from an intro to computer science angle as screen reader users who want to learn comp-sci through python and eventually contribute to NVDA.

Once I had a list of interested parties, I was going to email all to do a poll on how we want to communicate. google groups was going to be my default but there are also forums or other shared workspaces that might be easier for collaborative learning.

Although I do not have a programming background, I do have a coordinating background and am happy to be the organizing engine unless others strongly want to take this lead.

I defer to Joseph and others if an NVDA list is appropriate for the scope described above and will compile a list of people who have expressed interest by next week. I'll share that list with whomever is in charge by then, if it is not me.

Thanks all for the enthusiasm! It's good to get this idea off the ground.

Cheers,

Sally

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:31 AM, Dennis L <dennisl1982@...> wrote:

Is that we subscribe?

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:55 AM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am interested in programming for NVDA

Hi,

I propose “beginningdevs” as the name of the subgroup, with the complete email address being nvda+beginningdevs@groups.io with subject tag of nvda-beginningdevs.

Cheers,

Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 11:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am interested in programming for NVDA

I see no reason that the list owner would object.  Unless there is an objection, I shall set up a new subgroup later today.  I haven't done this before and if I have any problems, I'll ask about them here but I don't expect to have problems or not any problems I can't figure out.  What, Michael Lee, is your suggestion for a name for the subgroup?  I'm asking because I'm not sure just what its purpose is, to teach Python or to teach python in a context of NVDA development. 

Gene

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Gene

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Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:39 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am interested in programming for NVDA

I think a separate list is most apropriate. The developoment list shouldn't be encumbered with questions from newbies
in programming. That said, I am willing to act as a mentor for a separate list.

John

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 09:02:59PM -0700, Hector Elias wrote:
> Hi Joseph:
>
> Is that an appropriate mailing list to conduct a discussion of learning Python? Or should we create a separate list?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hector
> > On Aug 16, 2017, at 8:58 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > The most appropriate list to join is nvda-devel (hosted at SourceForge). I'm not qualified to create a subgroup on this forum.
> > Cheers,
> > Joseph
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lenron
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:55 PM
> > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> > Subject: Re: [nvda] I am interested in programming for NVDA
> >
> > I would be up to joining this list as well. Alsways up for learning something new.
> >
> > On 8/16/17, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
> >> hi.
> >> i wish that learn python too.
> >> here the email address of sally that you and james wanted.
> >> Sally Kiebdaj<fiddle.pup@...>
> >>
> >> On 8/17/17, Hector Elias <hmelias09@...> wrote:
> >>> Correction I was able to find the e-mail, and I have e-mailed Sally
> >>> directly.
> >>>
> >>> Hector
> >>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:58 PM, Hector Elias <hmelias09@...> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello:
> >>>>
> >>>> I would be interested in joining this group. I have some Python
> >>>> experience, and will be taking a course at my community college in a
> >>>> few weeks. Syntax errors are usually caused because there is an
> >>>> error when using the code. I have seen those courses and I found
> >>>> that sometimes they would not describe the syntax correctly; which
> >>>> lead to miss typing the code. Python is case sensitive, or you might
> >>>> have missed a certain punctuation mark.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sally, your e-mail doesn't show up on this thread. I only see the
> >>>> mailing list address. Could you send us your e-mail?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> hector Elias
> >>>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 12:52 PM, Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you for the copious advice!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In the past, I tried MIT OpenCourseware and MITx 6.00 which are
> >>>>> both versions of their introduction to computer science course
> >>>>> taught in Python. I always ended up in the situation where
> >>>>> following the directions keystroke for keystroke generated a syntax
> >>>>> error and I had no one to ask for help. This is what I want to
> >>>>> avoid by having friends plugging away at it with me and experts on
> >>>>> hand for when we bog down.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If others are interested in finding a book/course and slogging
> >>>>> through it together, please reply to me privately and I am happy to
> >>>>> facilitate communication and coordination off list.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would also be happy to work through any future NVDA specific
> >>>>> programming tutorials.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So, drop me a line if you would like to plod through this in a
> >>>>> group with me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hope to hear from some of you on this thread.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sally
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 8/13/2017 4:21 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
> >>>>>> You don't have to learn python the hard way. What you need is a
> >>>>>> tutorial that assumes no probramming experience and no familiarity
> >>>>>> with programming concepts. Manuals aren't it. They are for
> >>>>>> programmers learning a new language. What is needed is a turorial
> >>>>>> written by someone who has experience teaching programming from
> >>>>>> the ground up.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> John
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 12:11:01PM -0700, J.G wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> as I have written, beginners to programing should take a
> >>>>>>> tutorials/manuals, which are simple and explain python in plain
> >>>>>>> language so it can be understandable for all of us. I suggest you:
> >>>>>>> https://learnpythonthehardway.org/ (
> >>>>>>> https://learnpythonthehardway.org/
> >>>>>>> )
> >>>>>>> there are books, which can help you self-teaching coding. these
> >>>>>>> are divided in cca 50 section - exercises. through them you can
> >>>>>>> begin to know how to programing.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> warning: if you really want to code, you will have to train
> >>>>>>> yourself a lot.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> hope this helps and that in this post I was clearer than in my
> >>>>>>> previous message.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> regards, Jožef
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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Re: Did something change in the groups.IO interface?

Gene
 

I believe also, near the end of the thread, a message was sent to the list giving the e-mail subscribe information.
 
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Did something change in the groups.IO interface?

Subgroups are just that, they're under the main group, but indipendent of it, so nobody is subscribed automatically, you need to subscribe to it if you want to receive it's messages.  Currently, there are subgroups for chat, devlearning, and list matters.  You can see the subgroups at:

https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/subgroups

and you can see the one specifically for the devlearning at:

https://nvda.groups.io/g/devlearning

You can subscribe on that page if so desired.

Hope this helps.



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Reading this thread, I have to ask this. What is a sub group. IE if no action is taken by me, does this sub group come in via email or is it, in fact a new group/list and I'd have to subscribe to that as well.
 Which leads me to..
 What sub groups are there already and where can I see a list and instructions on how to subscribe to them?
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From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Did something change in the groups.IO interface?

Thanks.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Did something change in the groups.IO interface?

You may not have permission. I will create the subgroup.

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 3:02 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
From what I read, this link should be on the main page.  I see no such link.  I don't know if I have permission to create subgroups.  Is this a specific activity that permission must be given for?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Did something change in the groups.IO interface?

Hi,

Normally, if folks have permission, they can click “create a subgroup” link and it’ll let them create one.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 12:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Did something change in the groups.IO interface?

 

As it turns out, I still can't find where to create a subgroup.  I followed the link that says subgroups and only saw information about groups I am a member of and groups I can join.  I had previously done a Google search for start subgroup groups.io and read both help results and learned nothing specific about how to do this.  Nor have I found anything on the NVDA main page or the subgroups page that says anything about starting a subgroup.

 

Gene

 

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:45 PM

Subject: Did something change in the groups.IO interface?

 

I've been trying to create a subgroup but I can't see anything related to it in the interface.  Also, I don't see what I recall seeing before such as a link I saw before to see members and their status to help with things like unsubscribing.  I followed the NVDA main link and that's where I looked for these things.  Did something change in the interface?  I never had this kind of problem before.

 

Thanks for any information.

Gene

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Re: looking for a free YouTube video downloader that supportsplaylists

 

HiKwork, youtube dlg is a good app for downloading youtube playylists. If you want you can email me off list and I can send you a dropbox link to the installer.  

 

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From: Damien Sykes-Lindley
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 7:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a free YouTube video downloader that supportsplaylists

 

Hi Travis,

Well actually, Youtube-DL also uses ffmpeg to do the conversions as well – Either that or LibAV. It also sometimes needs other utilities as well like RTMPDump, but pretty much, as long as you want to download original video content from YouTube, then YTDL is pretty much all you need.

Cheers.
Damien.

 

Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 3:02 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a free YouTube video downloader that supports playlists

 

Just for reference, that ponts downloader uses youtube-dl, and ffmpeg to do the conversion, it's just a wrapper around those two programs, so it's truly no jump for you to switch to youtube-dl, since you've already been using it anyway, but just didn't know it.

 

 

On 8/18/2017 12:36 AM, Kwork wrote:

Hello,

I'm looking for a YouTube video downloader that supports playlists, and that is NVDA accessible. I'm not looking for anything that converts, so don't want a program that automatically downloads and converts without saving the original video. I've been using Pontes, but that hasn't been as reliable lately. Thanks for any help.

Travis

 

 

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Re: I am interested in programming for NVDA

Adriani Botez
 

Hello,

Please add me too.

Best
Adriani


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Am 18.08.2017 um 10:30 schrieb Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...>:

Hi Sally,

please add me as well,

 

cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sally Kiebdaj
Sent: Donnerstag, 17. August 2017 19:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am interested in programming for NVDA

 

Hello,

Alright then.

We will wait on a decision for the NVDA group and I will compile interested people by next week.

Once those two things are done, we can look at materials for learning.

Some things have already been suggested on this thread and we can discuss more once we have our own space that doesn't fill others inboxes.

Thanks again!

Sally

 

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

I have asked Gene if we can have a subgroup for beginning devs.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sally Kiebdaj
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:31 AM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am interested in programming for NVDA

 

Hello all,

sorry to respond only daily.

I have a nice mix of private and public messages now which I am happy to organize into a headcount.

As I understand our purpose, we are people with little or no programming background who want to learn programming through python. Some of us also want to eventually work on NVDA--provided we learn python successfully.

We are looking for some experience people to help coach. Some of the experienced people have a programming background but are learning python along with us and others have both programming and python experience.

To sum up, we are mostly starting from an intro to computer science angle as screen reader users who want to learn comp-sci through python and eventually contribute to NVDA.

Once I had a list of interested parties, I was going to email all to do a poll on how we want to communicate. google groups was going to be my default but there are also forums or other shared workspaces that might be easier for collaborative learning.

Although I do not have a programming background, I do have a coordinating background and am happy to be the organizing engine unless others strongly want to take this lead.

I defer to Joseph and others if an NVDA list is appropriate for the scope described above and will compile a list of people who have expressed interest by next week. I'll share that list with whomever is in charge by then, if it is not me.

Thanks all for the enthusiasm! It's good to get this idea off the ground.

Cheers,

Sally

 

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:31 AM, Dennis L <dennisl1982@...> wrote:

Is that we subscribe?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:55 AM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am interested in programming for NVDA

 

Hi,

I propose “beginningdevs” as the name of the subgroup, with the complete email address being nvda+beginningdevs@groups.io with subject tag of nvda-beginningdevs.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 11:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am interested in programming for NVDA

 

I see no reason that the list owner would object.  Unless there is an objection, I shall set up a new subgroup later today.  I haven't done this before and if I have any problems, I'll ask about them here but I don't expect to have problems or not any problems I can't figure out.  What, Michael Lee, is your suggestion for a name for the subgroup?  I'm asking because I'm not sure just what its purpose is, to teach Python or to teach python in a context of NVDA development. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:39 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am interested in programming for NVDA

 

I think a separate list is most apropriate. The developoment list shouldn't be encumbered with questions from newbies
in programming. That said, I am willing to act as a mentor for a separate list.

John

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 09:02:59PM -0700, Hector Elias wrote:
> Hi Joseph:
>
> Is that an appropriate mailing list to conduct a discussion of learning Python? Or should we create a separate list?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hector
> > On Aug 16, 2017, at 8:58 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > The most appropriate list to join is nvda-devel (hosted at SourceForge). I'm not qualified to create a subgroup on this forum.
> > Cheers,
> > Joseph
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lenron
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:55 PM
> > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> > Subject: Re: [nvda] I am interested in programming for NVDA
> >
> > I would be up to joining this list as well. Alsways up for learning something new.
> >
> > On 8/16/17, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
> >> hi.
> >> i wish that learn python too.
> >> here the email address of sally that you and james wanted.
> >> Sally Kiebdaj<fiddle.pup@...>
> >>
> >> On 8/17/17, Hector Elias <hmelias09@...> wrote:
> >>> Correction I was able to find the e-mail, and I have e-mailed Sally
> >>> directly.
> >>>
> >>> Hector
> >>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:58 PM, Hector Elias <hmelias09@...> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello:
> >>>>
> >>>> I would be interested in joining this group. I have some Python
> >>>> experience, and will be taking a course at my community college in a
> >>>> few weeks. Syntax errors are usually caused because there is an
> >>>> error when using the code. I have seen those courses and I found
> >>>> that sometimes they would not describe the syntax correctly; which
> >>>> lead to miss typing the code. Python is case sensitive, or you might
> >>>> have missed a certain punctuation mark.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sally, your e-mail doesn't show up on this thread. I only see the
> >>>> mailing list address. Could you send us your e-mail?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> hector Elias
> >>>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 12:52 PM, Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you for the copious advice!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In the past, I tried MIT OpenCourseware and MITx 6.00 which are
> >>>>> both versions of their introduction to computer science course
> >>>>> taught in Python. I always ended up in the situation where
> >>>>> following the directions keystroke for keystroke generated a syntax
> >>>>> error and I had no one to ask for help. This is what I want to
> >>>>> avoid by having friends plugging away at it with me and experts on
> >>>>> hand for when we bog down.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If others are interested in finding a book/course and slogging
> >>>>> through it together, please reply to me privately and I am happy to
> >>>>> facilitate communication and coordination off list.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would also be happy to work through any future NVDA specific
> >>>>> programming tutorials.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So, drop me a line if you would like to plod through this in a
> >>>>> group with me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hope to hear from some of you on this thread.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sally
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 8/13/2017 4:21 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
> >>>>>> You don't have to learn python the hard way. What you need is a
> >>>>>> tutorial that assumes no probramming experience and no familiarity
> >>>>>> with programming concepts. Manuals aren't it. They are for
> >>>>>> programmers learning a new language. What is needed is a turorial
> >>>>>> written by someone who has experience teaching programming from
> >>>>>> the ground up.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> John
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 12:11:01PM -0700, J.G wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> as I have written, beginners to programing should take a
> >>>>>>> tutorials/manuals, which are simple and explain python in plain
> >>>>>>> language so it can be understandable for all of us. I suggest you:
> >>>>>>> https://learnpythonthehardway.org/ (
> >>>>>>> https://learnpythonthehardway.org/
> >>>>>>> )
> >>>>>>> there are books, which can help you self-teaching coding. these
> >>>>>>> are divided in cca 50 section - exercises. through them you can
> >>>>>>> begin to know how to programing.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> warning: if you really want to code, you will have to train
> >>>>>>> yourself a lot.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> hope this helps and that in this post I was clearer than in my
> >>>>>>> previous message.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> regards, Jožef
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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Re: looking for a free YouTube video downloader that supports playlists

Damien Garwood
 

Hi Travis,
Well actually, Youtube-DL also uses ffmpeg to do the conversions as well – Either that or LibAV. It also sometimes needs other utilities as well like RTMPDump, but pretty much, as long as you want to download original video content from YouTube, then YTDL is pretty much all you need.
Cheers.
Damien.
 

Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a free YouTube video downloader that supports playlists
 

Just for reference, that ponts downloader uses youtube-dl, and ffmpeg to do the conversion, it's just a wrapper around those two programs, so it's truly no jump for you to switch to youtube-dl, since you've already been using it anyway, but just didn't know it.

 


On 8/18/2017 12:36 AM, Kwork wrote:
Hello,
I'm looking for a YouTube video downloader that supports playlists, and that is NVDA accessible. I'm not looking for anything that converts, so don't want a program that automatically downloads and converts without saving the original video. I've been using Pontes, but that hasn't been as reliable lately. Thanks for any help.
Travis


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Re: the windows 1 core voices are very slow

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
This worked quite well. In the speech settings I have the rate set to 75percent and then in the NVDA settings I have the rate at 100percent. Mark mobile is very responsive and is now the voice I have set as my default.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On Aug 18, 2017, at 9:27 AM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:

I've posted back in May, but here it again. James Teh suggested to me to do the following. In the search box type speech. The 1st item you'll see is speech settings. Press Enter. Next set the speech rate to 50 or higher. Alt F4 out of that setting and now you can use the 1 Core voices and adjust the rate accordingly their.


On 8/17/2017 9:50 PM, brian wrote:
I only have 3 voices in the windows 1 core and they are very slow I tried setting the rate to 100 and the voices are much slower than 80 on the api voices. They also have a very waver to them. Sounds like a flutter. The 3 voices that I have are David, Sera thats what it sounds like and Mark but no George. I will stick to the api voices.

Brian Sackrider





Re: looking for a free YouTube video downloader that supports playlists

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Just for reference, that ponts downloader uses youtube-dl, and ffmpeg to do the conversion, it's just a wrapper around those two programs, so it's truly no jump for you to switch to youtube-dl, since you've already been using it anyway, but just didn't know it.



On 8/18/2017 12:36 AM, Kwork wrote:
Hello,
I'm looking for a YouTube video downloader that supports playlists, and that is NVDA accessible. I'm not looking for anything that converts, so don't want a program that automatically downloads and converts without saving the original video. I've been using Pontes, but that hasn't been as reliable lately. Thanks for any help.
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Re: the windows 1 core voices are very slow

Lino Morales
 

I've posted back in May, but here it again. James Teh suggested to me to do the following. In the search box type speech. The 1st item you'll see is speech settings. Press Enter. Next set the speech rate to 50 or higher. Alt F4 out of that setting and now you can use the 1 Core voices and adjust the rate accordingly their.

On 8/17/2017 9:50 PM, brian wrote:
I only have 3 voices in the windows 1 core and they are very slow I tried setting the rate to 100 and the voices are much slower than 80 on the api voices.  They also have a very waver to them. Sounds like a flutter.  The 3 voices that I have are David, Sera thats what it sounds like and Mark but no George.  I will stick to the api voices.

Brian Sackrider



Re: looking for a free YouTube video downloader that supports playlists

Kwork
 

Interesting, and thanks a lot. I think I'll also wait and see if someone comes up with something a bit less geeky as I really don't know command line.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a free YouTube video downloader that supports playlists

Hi,
Youtube-DL is your friend (http://ytdl.org). It is a command line based application so extremely accessible, and that has options to either convert or leave the original, so very flexible.
Cheers.
Damien.
 
From: Kwork
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 5:36 AM
Subject: [nvda] looking for a free YouTube video downloader that supports playlists
 
Hello,
I'm looking for a YouTube video downloader that supports playlists, and that is NVDA accessible. I'm not looking for anything that converts, so don't want a program that automatically downloads and converts without saving the original video. I've been using Pontes, but that hasn't been as reliable lately. Thanks for any help.
Travis


Re: Has anyone been able to subscribe to devlearning.nvda.grolups.io

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

I was able to subscribe via the web site, but I had to be logged into groups.io to do it.  I didn't try subscribing via email.



On 8/18/2017 7:57 AM, Chris wrote:

Sorry,

The subscription address is:

devlearning+subscribe@nvda.groups.io

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 18 August 2017 11:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Has anyone been able to subscribe to devlearning.nvda.grolups.io

 

I asked several questions on this fron earlier in the day but not seen a

reply yet.

Brian

----- Original Message -----

From: "Chris" <chrismedley@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 10:00 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Has anyone been able to subscribe to

devlearning.nvda.grolups.io

 

 

Subscribe email:

devlearning+subscribe@nvda.groups.io

 

 

 

From: John J. Boyer

Sent: 18 August 2017 08:00

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] Has anyone been able to subscribe to

devlearning.nvda.grolups.io

 

I sent a message to subscribe@devlearning.nvda.groups.io It was returned

with the error unrouteable address. What's

wrong?

 

John

 

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