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Re: windows 7 and new n v d a release

 

To be honest you should only have what is needed to start at all times.

So idealy for win7 especially your hardware drivers and your security software and your screen reader.

For win10 I have onedrive coming up, I could clobber it but I have no idea if I can put it back in startup again and so I havn't as such.

I have increased on the workstations having cloud backup software dropbox google, onedrive, icloud.

In addition with your apple or some android hardwre they may need their software to start in order for things to work and so on and so on.

Spotify was a big culpret so is some backup software but understandibly you want that on at all times as well as ups related software and controler software.

Things you don't need are things like skype which uses a lot of memmory off the bat.

Ofcause this aint a problem with the new cpus, ie anything over generation 3-4 intel i series and having solid state drives reduces the need for rules as such.

In fact technically on a 64 bit system it shouldn't matter if all your programs and documents opend on startup.

The rules I put in place were for 32 bit systems especially those that had older pre i series chips where a lot of stuff would bash itself into a wall.

For example to start an old celeron unit If I pulled all the stuff not needed to start and had hardware drivers and security software up and my reader and 1 other program it would work but load more and it wouldn't.

On the other hand back then I could basically bonk all the drivers, all the security software controlers and just about everything and it would still work.

On 27/08/2017 9:01 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Well I found that on windows 7 64, it seems smoother, but it depends on what other software you use I guess.

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Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] windows 7 and new n v d a release



Re: NVDA is freezing up and incredibly slow

 

I also turn off a lot of scheduals I just don't have time for those on my workstation but thats because I use it.

Now on the critical workstations in here I set all the schedualed scans for night time round midnight as well as the schedualed updates and the like.

Its a good time to get those done.

I control backups myself I want to make sure I have those sorted but yeah.

Critical stuff is on the cloud and the rest I keep the 2 backup drives updated regularly.

As for the 2 other systems the workstation has a drive which we backup every so often, the other server come workstation uses the seagate backup manager type deal and every so often we connect the drive and let it sit for 3 hours during runtime or at night then it backs itself up.

Sadly as we found out security and backup programs use a lot of resources.

On 27/08/2017 8:58 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I have for example noticed that windows will often slow down if an automatic back up is in progress. You would not normally know this was going on of course and it to some extent   depends on how and what to you aare backing up. also sometimes some virus scanners can eat resources if they scan incoming files or do scans with ahigh priority setting.
This was why I kicked out Avast originally.



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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA is freezing up and incredibly slow


Also, from the way your message is written, it isn't clear if the performance problems only happen when you run NVDA or if they occur in general.  You said you are new to NVDA but you didn't say if these are general problems or only present when you run NVDA.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 6:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA is freezing up and incredibly slow


Are you doing anything in particular when it happens (Using Outlook, Firefox, calculator, etc?) and are you using NVDA 2017.3?


Anything else you can think of about your system or what you are doing that might help - and anything that has changed recently.


Regards


Quentin.


On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Brenduh <brenduh@tafn.org.uk> wrote:

 Hello,
 I'm new to NVDA and it has been freezing up and running incredibly laggy when it does work.  I have a core i 7 laptop with 16gb of memory and a huge hard drive.  I'm running windows 10. Any suggestions is appreciated.
 Brenda







Re: skype

 

If you kill the app version windows won't prompt you to use it.

Its a pitty the app version is not accessible on that note, skype is entering a new preview stage with modifications to make it more app like, what interests me is that they obviously see a future in skype desktop because they are keeping it.

On 27/08/2017 8:56 a.m., Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi


If you are using windows 10 you will have the app version that you probably see now.


Grab the desk top version from i think it is skype.com that version has the menus.


Gene nz


On 27/08/2017 08:36, Holger Fiallo wrote:


Question. Is skype free. I have skype for a long time since it came out and it was free. I had not used it for a while. I went to check it and now there are no menu accessibility setting. Using NVDA curren, W10. Help.
Holger Fiallo


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Re: NVDA is freezing up and incredibly slow

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Is the voice choppy or have you recently updated your operating system? Things that might do it is anti virus programs scanning or something been backed up,


Maybe also check under your sound settings in windows and turn off any thing that inhances the audio like 3d etc, that might cause it.

It might be a matter of looking through the sections there. Also see what nvda audio out put is set to.


Gene nz




On 26/08/2017 10:40, Brenduh wrote:
Hello,
I'm new to NVDA and it has been freezing up and running incredibly laggy when it does work.  I have a core i 7 laptop with 16gb of memory and a huge hard drive.  I'm running windows 10.  Any suggestions is appreciated.
Brenda

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Re: windows 7 and new n v d a release

 

hello.
yes. the versions 2017.1 and 2017.2 are the best versions.
i realy decided to never update my nvda forever and i try to covenent
my promise and decision.
my decision is for reasons that i cant explane.
2017.2 is the best and realy extremely great.

On 8/27/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
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Heck its even running fine on XP as well, though only subtle changes exist
there I think. Its certainly no worse from my viewpoint. It seems smoother
all round in Firefox versions to me. It will, shock horror even work on
Internet Explorer 8!
I know as I had to use it yesterday with a current next snap, and there
were no issues or errors at all when I downloaded some files from an old
site that seemed to work in old versions of browsers.


Some people on here are having issues with firefox and I think I posted
about this a bit earlier today, but seeing as I cannot see the problems
here, they will have to go to github and add to the relevent tickets if it
cannot be solved.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Arlene" <nedster66@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 7 and new n v d a release


Hi, I'm using win 7 home addition. I downloaded the latest version of NVDA.

It works just fine. Yes it does benefit win ten. There's no reason why it
wont work for 7. If you hear something like windows app ignore it its just

for ten. It does work for 7.

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stinnett
Sent: August-26-17 8:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] windows 7 and new n v d a release


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from mack using win 7 64 bit. sounds like the new release primarily
benefits win 10 users. I am using 2017.1 and it works just fine. any
compelling reason to update at this time. thanks.










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Re: a good program for reading pdf files

 

hi.
i recommend to try google chrome, firefox and balabolka.
i change my pdfs to txt using firefox.
i select all of my documents, copy them and peist to a new document,
then save as txt or other formats.
God bless you and hope that help.

On 8/27/17, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:
Nope Adobe DC is still free. Happy downloading.


On 8/26/2017 2:28 PM, Bobby Vinton wrote:
hay I was wondering if any of you know of a good program for reading
and opening PDF files.  I don't know if adobe still works or if you
have to pay for it.  Just let me know.






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Re: what in the world is happening with firefox and nvda

 

hi joe and brian.
in the firefox new versions (i dont remember exact which version),
firefox 64 bit is installed by default on 64 bit windows,
but you can still select that whether 32 or 64 bit should be installed
in your system.
i read whats new, changes and bug fixes in mozilla website.
hope that help, God bless you!

On 8/27/17, Joe_L via Groups.Io <joedevsys=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
In case it's useful to someone:

Mozilla's new 64 bit policy explained:
https://blog.mozilla.org/firefox/firefox-64-default-64-bit-windows/?utm_source=www.mozilla.org&;utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=fx-content-hub
(
https://blog.mozilla.org/firefox/firefox-64-default-64-bit-windows/?utm_source=www.mozilla.org&;utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=fx-content-hub
)

Get your 32 bit firefox here: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/ (
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/ )

Joe
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Re: skype

Lino Morales
 

Always has been always will.


On 8/26/2017 4:36 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:
   

Question. Is skype free. I have skype for a long time since it came out and it was free. I had not used it for a while. I went to check it and now there are no menu accessibility setting. Using NVDA curren, W10. Help.
Holger Fiallo


Re: a good program for reading pdf files

Lino Morales
 

Nope Adobe DC is still free. Happy downloading.

On 8/26/2017 2:28 PM, Bobby Vinton wrote:
hay I was wondering if any of you know of a good program for reading and opening PDF files.  I don't know if adobe still works or if you have to pay for it.  Just let me know.



Re: skype

 

hi.
i am sure that usual skype is free, i use it every day.
but i dont know about skype which is windows ten or about skype that
is called skype for business.

On 8/27/17, Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@rcn.com> wrote:
Thanks. I figure out the problem.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] skype

Its increasingly being integrated into Windows, as its now owned by
Microsoft, so I guess its as free as that to get the integrated version you
buy windows. However because it has versions running on other platforms and
stand alone desktop versions if it was not free I think there would be a
major outcry now.
I do feel however that its sound quality is worse than it was. It keeps
kind of ducking the volume at crucial times. many other systems seem to do
a
better job these days, but I'm not really into this for any other reason
than just to see is it works.
Brian

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Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] skype


I believe skype is still free.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Holger
Fiallo
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 1:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] skype






Question. Is skype free. I have skype for a long time since it came out
and
it was free. I had not used it for a while. I went to check it and now
there
are no menu accessibility setting. Using NVDA curren, W10. Help.
Holger Fiallo









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Re: skype

Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
 

Thanks. I figure out the problem.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] skype

Its increasingly being integrated into Windows, as its now owned by
Microsoft, so I guess its as free as that to get the integrated version you
buy windows. However because it has versions running on other platforms and
stand alone desktop versions if it was not free I think there would be a
major outcry now.
I do feel however that its sound quality is worse than it was. It keeps
kind of ducking the volume at crucial times. many other systems seem to do a
better job these days, but I'm not really into this for any other reason
than just to see is it works.
Brian

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From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] skype


I believe skype is still free.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Holger
Fiallo
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 1:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] skype






Question. Is skype free. I have skype for a long time since it came out
and
it was free. I had not used it for a while. I went to check it and now
there
are no menu accessibility setting. Using NVDA curren, W10. Help.
Holger Fiallo




Re: Creating backups of dvd's?

Matt Turner
 

Hi, i tried anyburn with any dvd.

It worked. vlc was able to play back the dvd, when i mounted the iso image.

It was the copy protection.

When i didn't use any dvd, it wood make the image, but when playing back with vlc, the audio/video was choppy.

So i now have 21 days to try out any dvd.

On 8/26/2017 1:27 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
There's also anyburn which you can get from www.anyburn.com.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 12:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Creating backups of dvd's?

hello.
you can use burnaware free.
you can use most of features without paying any charge, its free for home users, its accessible for screen reader users.
it also supports the feature that you need for free.

www.burnaware.com
God bless you and hope that my answer helps you.

On 8/26/17, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io <rmkuzma=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I use iso recorder.
Only thing is if the disc has any kind of copy protection on it it
will not create the iso image.
You could look at any dvd, which basically plays the disc through it
and removes the copy protection.
I don’t know how much it is now, but it really works and I use the two
together when needed with no trouble.
Good luck and let me know if need any more help.
Rich


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Matt Turner
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 7:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Creating backups of dvd's?

Hi folks. I'm trying to create a iso file from all of my dvd's i bought.

I'm using any burn. When i start copying to a image, i get a arer
message. something about IO.

Anyone no of and easier way?








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Re: A minor problem with iTunes

Arlene
 

Hi, Itunes is doable. It’s really meant for apple.  If’ts good if you use it in an apple product such as an IPhone or pad. I used the Ipad my room mate and I share. it’s excellent in there. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: August-26-17 1:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A minor problem with iTunes

 

Hi

I guess that is why i like the google way nice and easy compared to i tunes.

On 26/08/2017 23:21, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Yes Itunes.


The google way is easy as from the store and even putting music etc onto your phone.

Gene nz


is designed by some huge group of programmers all not talking to each other and trying to cludge all the bits together into one heap afterwards. its illogical and mostly pointless. Its a great shame that a third party development cannot get permission to use the Apple shop routines. I'm sure they would be  able to better Itunes!

Its a case of using a nuke to crack a nut again.
I have never had any luck with it for anything I do with windoze.
Brian

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Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A minor problem with iTunes



Hmm, you no i thought about just getting apple music, cent i listen to a lot of it.

I just don't like slow iTunes.

Scan a folder with foobar2000, and it's done in like 2 seconds. With iTunes, it takes forever.

On 8/25/2017 11:42 AM, Lino Morales wrote:

Hi all. I have my doubts if this minor problem has been resolved in 2017.3. Heck I think I'm the first one to bring it up. When I'm in iTunes when I hit up and down arrow to hear the list of songs in the artists area NVDA incorrectly reports the wrong name of the song. The only way I know it is the song I want is to hit NVDA numb pad 5 With the Seka Braille display I get the same behavior using arrow keys. A lot of my albums on Apple music have a lot of tracks as it is due to them being deluxe versions in most cases. I'm not familiar with Get Hub or WTH its called, so I don't know simple it is to create an account and not sure what to do from that point on. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. the








 

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Re: what in the world is happening with firefox and nvda

Joe_L
 


Re: skype

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Its increasingly being integrated into Windows, as its now owned by Microsoft, so I guess its as free as that to get the integrated version you buy windows. However because it has versions running on other platforms and stand alone desktop versions if it was not free I think there would be a major outcry now.
I do feel however that its sound quality is worse than it was. It keeps kind of ducking the volume at crucial times. many other systems seem to do a better job these days, but I'm not really into this for any other reason than just to see is it works.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] skype


I believe skype is still free.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Holger
Fiallo
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 1:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] skype






Question. Is skype free. I have skype for a long time since it came out and
it was free. I had not used it for a while. I went to check it and now there
are no menu accessibility setting. Using NVDA curren, W10. Help.
Holger Fiallo




Re: FW: [nvda-translations] NVDA 2017.3 released

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

It appears the problem was that when nvda was restarted with firefox running part of the accessibility system could no longer get access to the routines as Firefox had locked them down. the answer is to reboot firefox when this happens. I think the devs are looking for a way around it, but in the end it may need Firefox to fix something. its hard to follow as there are at least three interconnected tickets and some of the problems also affect Thunderbird as the same basic code is in both.

Brian

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Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: [nvda-translations] NVDA 2017.3 released


Hi, the firefox problem was still there, but I did some testing and after a bit of mucking about it seems that once I did the update it broke the firefox profile I deleted it and it is working well now. this was a bigger problem for me because I use my own portable install with all addons. and the broken ff profile was in the installer fixed now. but I wonder if the new nvda renders web pages a little differently from the last stable version? as each time I reverted back to stable version it just worked but anyway all fixed now.

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It will be interesting to see if the couple of people with the issue with Firefox on here that most of us cannot duplicate is still there. If it is I think somebody should talk to these people by email and see if some obvious answer can be obtained. it has to be something in nvda that has changed between the last version and this one coupled with some specific issue on those computers. Its obvious from what we have seen here that its not just the simple non registration of DLL files bug, or the use of beta versions of Firefox. However there has to be something that makes these installations different to everyone elses.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 9:15 PM
Subject: [nvda] FW: [nvda-translations] NVDA 2017.3 released


Hi,
Let the party begin!!! Enjoy the new release.
On behalf of contributors for this release, I thank you all for your valuable feedback, suggestions, bug reports and other comments.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 1:08 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development <nvda-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>; nvda-translations@freelists.org
Subject: [nvda-translations] NVDA 2017.3 released

Hi all,


NVDA 2017.3 has just been released.


The announcement including links to the download and What's new can be found at:

https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2017-3-now-available-for-download/


thank you as always for all your invaluable contributions!


Mick






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Re: a good program for reading pdf files

Sam Bushman
 

I use DocuScan Plus.
It wil do OCR on the fly and seems to work quite well.
Sam

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Subject: Re: [nvda] a good program for reading pdf files

Adobe reader is still free.
Its not so much the reading of them that is the main issue, its the attitude and knowledge of those making pdfs that has to change.
All too often files are untagged for changes in reading order, say when different numbers of columns exist through the document or in some cases people simply scan in a picture of text and make the whole pdf an unreadable document without eyes, and often its so badly scanned that OCR makes it into Klingon.

If you want a text based pdf reader, you could do far worse than the one on the webbie web site. It just works. It has no way to correct for the madness of the file creator though....
Brian

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From: "Bobby Vinton" <vinton.bobby5277@gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 7:28 PM
Subject: [nvda] a good program for reading pdf files


hay I was wondering if any of you know of a good program for reading and
opening PDF files. I don't know if adobe still works or if you have to pay
for it. Just let me know.




Re: a good program for reading pdf files

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Adobe reader is still free.
Its not so much the reading of them that is the main issue, its the attitude and knowledge of those making pdfs that has to change.
All too often files are untagged for changes in reading order, say when different numbers of columns exist through the document or in some cases people simply scan in a picture of text and make the whole pdf an unreadable document without eyes, and often its so badly scanned that OCR makes it into Klingon.

If you want a text based pdf reader, you could do far worse than the one on the webbie web site. It just works. It has no way to correct for the madness of the file creator though....
Brian

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From: "Bobby Vinton" <vinton.bobby5277@gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 7:28 PM
Subject: [nvda] a good program for reading pdf files


hay I was wondering if any of you know of a good program for reading and opening PDF files. I don't know if adobe still works or if you have to pay for it. Just let me know.



Re: what in the world is happening with firefox and nvda

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Not in my case as i downloaded the direct link, not that one from the mozilla web site.

I'm back on 55 non beta now again.
I think though that they should allow the choice of 32 or 64 bit at install time.
Often add ons won't work in the 64 bit version and hence different versions need to be downloaded. In my view there is little to be gained in the 64 bit version for most normal users.
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Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] what in the world is happening with firefox and nvda


Fixed (I think!) - in my case it was 64 bit Firefox causing the problem, when I uninstalled this and installed 32bit Firefox it seems much better.

It seems the latest versions of Firefox push a 64 bit install onto any 64 bit operating system. Could this explain why people using the beta saw the problem? In my case it was a new install of FF onto my Win 10 laptop so it gave me the 64 bit version. After uninstalling and a reboot for good measure it took some hunting to find the real 32 bit download (there's a link on the main mozilla download landing page that still installed a 64 bit version).

Hope this helps,
Joe


Re: windows 7 and new n v d a release

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Heck its even running fine on XP as well, though only subtle changes exist there I think. Its certainly no worse from my viewpoint. It seems smoother all round in Firefox versions to me. It will, shock horror even work on Internet Explorer 8!
I know as I had to use it yesterday with a current next snap, and there were no issues or errors at all when I downloaded some files from an old site that seemed to work in old versions of browsers.


Some people on here are having issues with firefox and I think I posted about this a bit earlier today, but seeing as I cannot see the problems here, they will have to go to github and add to the relevent tickets if it cannot be solved.
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Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 7 and new n v d a release


Hi, I'm using win 7 home addition. I downloaded the latest version of NVDA. It works just fine. Yes it does benefit win ten. There's no reason why it wont work for 7. If you hear something like windows app ignore it its just for ten. It does work for 7.

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Sent: August-26-17 8:54 AM
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Subject: [nvda] windows 7 and new n v d a release


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from mack using win 7 64 bit. sounds like the new release primarily benefits win 10 users. I am using 2017.1 and it works just fine. any compelling reason to update at this time. thanks.