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Re: windows 7 and new n v d a release
To be honest you should only have what is needed to start at all times.
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So idealy for win7 especially your hardware drivers and your security software and your screen reader. For win10 I have onedrive coming up, I could clobber it but I have no idea if I can put it back in startup again and so I havn't as such. I have increased on the workstations having cloud backup software dropbox google, onedrive, icloud. In addition with your apple or some android hardwre they may need their software to start in order for things to work and so on and so on. Spotify was a big culpret so is some backup software but understandibly you want that on at all times as well as ups related software and controler software. Things you don't need are things like skype which uses a lot of memmory off the bat. Ofcause this aint a problem with the new cpus, ie anything over generation 3-4 intel i series and having solid state drives reduces the need for rules as such. In fact technically on a 64 bit system it shouldn't matter if all your programs and documents opend on startup. The rules I put in place were for 32 bit systems especially those that had older pre i series chips where a lot of stuff would bash itself into a wall. For example to start an old celeron unit If I pulled all the stuff not needed to start and had hardware drivers and security software up and my reader and 1 other program it would work but load more and it wouldn't. On the other hand back then I could basically bonk all the drivers, all the security software controlers and just about everything and it would still work.
On 27/08/2017 9:01 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Well I found that on windows 7 64, it seems smoother, but it depends on what other software you use I guess.
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Re: NVDA is freezing up and incredibly slow
I also turn off a lot of scheduals I just don't have time for those on my workstation but thats because I use it.
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Now on the critical workstations in here I set all the schedualed scans for night time round midnight as well as the schedualed updates and the like. Its a good time to get those done. I control backups myself I want to make sure I have those sorted but yeah. Critical stuff is on the cloud and the rest I keep the 2 backup drives updated regularly. As for the 2 other systems the workstation has a drive which we backup every so often, the other server come workstation uses the seagate backup manager type deal and every so often we connect the drive and let it sit for 3 hours during runtime or at night then it backs itself up. Sadly as we found out security and backup programs use a lot of resources.
On 27/08/2017 8:58 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I have for example noticed that windows will often slow down if an automatic back up is in progress. You would not normally know this was going on of course and it to some extent depends on how and what to you aare backing up. also sometimes some virus scanners can eat resources if they scan incoming files or do scans with ahigh priority setting.
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Re: skype
If you kill the app version windows won't prompt you to use it.
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Its a pitty the app version is not accessible on that note, skype is entering a new preview stage with modifications to make it more app like, what interests me is that they obviously see a future in skype desktop because they are keeping it.
On 27/08/2017 8:56 a.m., Gene New Zealand wrote:
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Re: NVDA is freezing up and incredibly slow
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Hi
Is the voice choppy or have you recently updated your operating system? Things that might do it is anti virus programs scanning or something been backed up,
Maybe also check under your sound settings in windows and turn off any thing that inhances the audio like 3d etc, that might cause it. It might be a matter of looking through the sections there. Also see what nvda audio out put is set to.
Gene nz
On 26/08/2017 10:40, Brenduh wrote:
Hello, --
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers.
To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert exam.
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Re: windows 7 and new n v d a release
hello.
yes. the versions 2017.1 and 2017.2 are the best versions. i realy decided to never update my nvda forever and i try to covenent my promise and decision. my decision is for reasons that i cant explane. 2017.2 is the best and realy extremely great. On 8/27/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote: Heck its even running fine on XP as well, though only subtle changes exist -- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: a good program for reading pdf files
hi.
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i recommend to try google chrome, firefox and balabolka. i change my pdfs to txt using firefox. i select all of my documents, copy them and peist to a new document, then save as txt or other formats. God bless you and hope that help.
On 8/27/17, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:
Nope Adobe DC is still free. Happy downloading. --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: what in the world is happening with firefox and nvda
hi joe and brian.
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in the firefox new versions (i dont remember exact which version), firefox 64 bit is installed by default on 64 bit windows, but you can still select that whether 32 or 64 bit should be installed in your system. i read whats new, changes and bug fixes in mozilla website. hope that help, God bless you!
On 8/27/17, Joe_L via Groups.Io <joedevsys=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
In case it's useful to someone: --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: skype
Lino Morales
Always has been always will.
On 8/26/2017 4:36 PM, Holger Fiallo
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Re: a good program for reading pdf files
Lino Morales
Nope Adobe DC is still free. Happy downloading.
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On 8/26/2017 2:28 PM, Bobby Vinton wrote:
hay I was wondering if any of you know of a good program for reading and opening PDF files. I don't know if adobe still works or if you have to pay for it. Just let me know.
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Re: skype
hi.
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i am sure that usual skype is free, i use it every day. but i dont know about skype which is windows ten or about skype that is called skype for business.
On 8/27/17, Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@rcn.com> wrote:
Thanks. I figure out the problem. --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: skype
Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
Thanks. I figure out the problem.
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From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:23 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] skype Its increasingly being integrated into Windows, as its now owned by Microsoft, so I guess its as free as that to get the integrated version you buy windows. However because it has versions running on other platforms and stand alone desktop versions if it was not free I think there would be a major outcry now. I do feel however that its sound quality is worse than it was. It keeps kind of ducking the volume at crucial times. many other systems seem to do a better job these days, but I'm not really into this for any other reason than just to see is it works. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] skype I believe skype is still free.
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Re: Creating backups of dvd's?
Matt Turner
Hi, i tried anyburn with any dvd.
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It worked. vlc was able to play back the dvd, when i mounted the iso image. It was the copy protection. When i didn't use any dvd, it wood make the image, but when playing back with vlc, the audio/video was choppy. So i now have 21 days to try out any dvd.
On 8/26/2017 1:27 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
There's also anyburn which you can get from www.anyburn.com.
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Re: A minor problem with iTunes
Arlene
Hi, Itunes is doable. It’s really meant for apple. If’ts good if you use it in an apple product such as an IPhone or pad. I used the Ipad my room mate and I share. it’s excellent in there.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: August-26-17 1:20 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] A minor problem with iTunes
Hi On 26/08/2017 23:21, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
is designed by some huge group of programmers all not talking to each other and trying to cludge all the bits together into one heap afterwards. its illogical and mostly pointless. Its a great shame that a third party development cannot get permission to use the Apple shop routines. I'm sure they would be able to better Itunes! Hmm, you no i thought about just getting apple music, cent i listen to a lot of it. Hi all. I have my doubts if this minor problem has been resolved in 2017.3. Heck I think I'm the first one to bring it up. When I'm in iTunes when I hit up and down arrow to hear the list of songs in the artists area NVDA incorrectly reports the wrong name of the song. The only way I know it is the song I want is to hit NVDA numb pad 5 With the Seka Braille display I get the same behavior using arrow keys. A lot of my albums on Apple music have a lot of tracks as it is due to them being deluxe versions in most cases. I'm not familiar with Get Hub or WTH its called, so I don't know simple it is to create an account and not sure what to do from that point on. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. the
-- Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
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Re: what in the world is happening with firefox and nvda
Joe_L
In case it's useful to someone:
Mozilla's new 64 bit policy explained: https://blog.mozilla.org/firefox/firefox-64-default-64-bit-windows/?utm_source=www.mozilla.org&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=fx-content-hub Get your 32 bit firefox here: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/ Joe
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Re: skype
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Its increasingly being integrated into Windows, as its now owned by Microsoft, so I guess its as free as that to get the integrated version you buy windows. However because it has versions running on other platforms and stand alone desktop versions if it was not free I think there would be a major outcry now.
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I do feel however that its sound quality is worse than it was. It keeps kind of ducking the volume at crucial times. many other systems seem to do a better job these days, but I'm not really into this for any other reason than just to see is it works. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] skype I believe skype is still free.
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Re: FW: [nvda-translations] NVDA 2017.3 released
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
It appears the problem was that when nvda was restarted with firefox running part of the accessibility system could no longer get access to the routines as Firefox had locked them down. the answer is to reboot firefox when this happens. I think the devs are looking for a way around it, but in the end it may need Firefox to fix something. its hard to follow as there are at least three interconnected tickets and some of the problems also affect Thunderbird as the same basic code is in both.
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Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io" <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: [nvda-translations] NVDA 2017.3 released Hi, the firefox problem was still there, but I did some testing and after a bit of mucking about it seems that once I did the update it broke the firefox profile I deleted it and it is working well now. this was a bigger problem for me because I use my own portable install with all addons. and the broken ff profile was in the installer fixed now. but I wonder if the new nvda renders web pages a little differently from the last stable version? as each time I reverted back to stable version it just worked but anyway all fixed now.
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Re: a good program for reading pdf files
Sam Bushman
I use DocuScan Plus.
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It wil do OCR on the fly and seems to work quite well. Sam
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:14 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] a good program for reading pdf files Adobe reader is still free. Its not so much the reading of them that is the main issue, its the attitude and knowledge of those making pdfs that has to change. All too often files are untagged for changes in reading order, say when different numbers of columns exist through the document or in some cases people simply scan in a picture of text and make the whole pdf an unreadable document without eyes, and often its so badly scanned that OCR makes it into Klingon. If you want a text based pdf reader, you could do far worse than the one on the webbie web site. It just works. It has no way to correct for the madness of the file creator though.... Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Vinton" <vinton.bobby5277@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 7:28 PM Subject: [nvda] a good program for reading pdf files hay I was wondering if any of you know of a good program for reading and
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Re: a good program for reading pdf files
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Adobe reader is still free.
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Its not so much the reading of them that is the main issue, its the attitude and knowledge of those making pdfs that has to change. All too often files are untagged for changes in reading order, say when different numbers of columns exist through the document or in some cases people simply scan in a picture of text and make the whole pdf an unreadable document without eyes, and often its so badly scanned that OCR makes it into Klingon. If you want a text based pdf reader, you could do far worse than the one on the webbie web site. It just works. It has no way to correct for the madness of the file creator though.... Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Bobby Vinton" <vinton.bobby5277@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 7:28 PM Subject: [nvda] a good program for reading pdf files hay I was wondering if any of you know of a good program for reading and opening PDF files. I don't know if adobe still works or if you have to pay for it. Just let me know.
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Re: what in the world is happening with firefox and nvda
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Not in my case as i downloaded the direct link, not that one from the mozilla web site.
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I'm back on 55 non beta now again. I think though that they should allow the choice of 32 or 64 bit at install time. Often add ons won't work in the 64 bit version and hence different versions need to be downloaded. In my view there is little to be gained in the 64 bit version for most normal users. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Joe_L via Groups.Io" <joedevsys=googlemail.com@groups.io> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] what in the world is happening with firefox and nvda Fixed (I think!) - in my case it was 64 bit Firefox causing the problem, when I uninstalled this and installed 32bit Firefox it seems much better. It seems the latest versions of Firefox push a 64 bit install onto any 64 bit operating system. Could this explain why people using the beta saw the problem? In my case it was a new install of FF onto my Win 10 laptop so it gave me the 64 bit version. After uninstalling and a reboot for good measure it took some hunting to find the real 32 bit download (there's a link on the main mozilla download landing page that still installed a 64 bit version). Hope this helps, Joe
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Re: windows 7 and new n v d a release
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Heck its even running fine on XP as well, though only subtle changes exist there I think. Its certainly no worse from my viewpoint. It seems smoother all round in Firefox versions to me. It will, shock horror even work on Internet Explorer 8!
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I know as I had to use it yesterday with a current next snap, and there were no issues or errors at all when I downloaded some files from an old site that seemed to work in old versions of browsers. Some people on here are having issues with firefox and I think I posted about this a bit earlier today, but seeing as I cannot see the problems here, they will have to go to github and add to the relevent tickets if it cannot be solved. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Arlene" <nedster66@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 7 and new n v d a release Hi, I'm using win 7 home addition. I downloaded the latest version of NVDA. It works just fine. Yes it does benefit win ten. There's no reason why it wont work for 7. If you hear something like windows app ignore it its just for ten. It does work for 7. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mcLeod stinnett Sent: August-26-17 8:54 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] windows 7 and new n v d a release -- from mack using win 7 64 bit. sounds like the new release primarily benefits win 10 users. I am using 2017.1 and it works just fine. any compelling reason to update at this time. thanks.
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