Re: Help With Eloquence
Rosemarie Chavarria
You have to pay for that one. You can't get it illegally.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 3:00 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Help With Eloquence yes I did. but I need the add on to eliqwence for NVDA everything is readey On 8/27/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote: You can't use the jaws eloquence voice because it's tied to Jaws. -- for if you persavear. you will conker never fear. try try try again
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Re: NVDA 2017.3 released
Rosemarie Chavarria
I have no idea.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 3:02 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2017.3 released will e speak b upgraded with new voices for nvda On 8/27/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote: For crying out loud, knock it off! This has nothing to do with the -- for if you persavear. you will conker never fear. try try try again
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Re: Wordperfect
Ron Canazzi
Hi Group,
Around 2000, Corel bought Word Perfect and version 12 was very accessible. I haven't tried anything past that version, so that's all the information I have. On 8/27/2017 6:44 PM, Arlene wrote: Hi, the only word perfect I used was 5.1. It only worked for dos! Not sure if people still use it.-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: sharing new folder in dropbox
Hello, Anthony,
Within File Explorer, locate the name of the folder. Hit applications, shift+10 or right click with the mouse on the folder depending on your configuration. There should be a Dropbox submenu. Hit right arrow on that, and there should be a share folder or something like that.
Ben
From: anthony borg
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 11:34 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] sharing new folder in dropbox
Hi list Can anyone providing me instructions of how to create a new sharing folder with another person who has already a dropbox account. Thanks in advance Anthony
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: 26 August 2017 13:58 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: sharing new folder in dropbox
Yes you can, but having bought Office I now would have to buy it again. its a pity if you have an old copy that you cannot just pay an upgrade price, but i suspect the upgrade from 2002, might be as much as a new one! I happen to like 2003/2 version of Word. I'm not going to get you started on ribbons again honest. brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Libreoffice
I believe you can still; buy Office. As I recall, you have the option to rent or buy it. If I'm wrong, I expect others will know an correct me.
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From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:56 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Libreoffice
Yes i am not liiking Microsofts new rental approach to software either. I will, at some point have to choose something else when my current version of Word finally will no longer run in windows. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io" <wsautodidata@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Libreoffice
>I tested OpenOffice some time ago and it was still worse than LibreOffice. > > I'm still using LibreOffice 5.2, even with its issues, because Microsoft > Office is very expensive here n Brazil and, for what I have to do, > LibreOffice suits me better. > > Also, I am using LibreOffice for many years and know almost all the > keyboard shortcuts, all of them very different in MS Office. As I needed > to start using a screen reader a few years ago, only recently became aware > of NVDA issues in conjunction with LibreOffice. > > > > Em 24/08/2017 09:31, nasrin khaksar escreveu: >> me too. >> i downgraded to 5.2, but still calc is inaccessible for me. >> every version has many new features for sighted and compatibility for >> screen readers! >> i completely agree with you walmir. >> whats the solution? >> should i realy migrate to openoffice? >> please advise. >> >> On 8/24/17, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io >> <wsautodidata@...> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> I am very desappointed with LibreOffice. >>> >>> Each update brings new compatibility issues with NVDA. >>> >>> I even downgraded to LibreOffice 5.2 as the only way to minimize the >>> annoyances. >>> >>> >>> >>> Em 23/08/2017 22:30, Quentin Christensen escreveu: >>>> I think to summarise the thread, LibreOffice tends to be updated more >>>> often, and more features are accessible. Open Office is still being >>>> updated. I just downloaded the latest version to have another look at >>>> myself. >>>> >>>> Re your user, if what they mostly need is a word processor rather than >>>> a full office suite, Jarte is a popular stand-alone word processor. >>>> >>>> Another option is Google Docs and Google Sheets etc. >>>> >>>> Yes there are potential bugs with the different office suites, and it >>>> depends on exactly what you need to do as to which will best suit your >>>> needs. For instance, yes the mouse bug I mentioned in LibreOffice >>>> causes a fairly bad crash, but if you are a user who doesn't use the >>>> mouse, then you won't encounter it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@... >>>> <mailto:sm.everiss@...>> wrote: >>>> >>>> This is serious guys I am trying to teach someone here to use an >>>> office like program that is not expensive ms office, how am I >>>> supposed to use it if there are issues with it that may pop up, I >>>> havn't yet fully started with it but I am half on the way to >>>> getting them to spend the cash on ms office which they allready >>>> know, should I ignore libre and go back to openoffice, wps office >>>> or something else entirely. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 23/08/2017 11:18 p.m., Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote: >>>> >>>> So, this is one more issue in using NVDA and LibreOffice.. >>>> together. >>>> >>>> I've described many of them here, but don't expect them to be >>>> solved because apparently there is no communication between >>>> the developers of both software. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Em 22/08/2017 22:19, Quentin Christensen escreveu: >>>> >>>> Using NVDA 2017.3 rc1 and LibreOffice Writer 5.3.4.2 I did >>>> the following: >>>> >>>> - Opened Word 2016 (I didn't have an old Word 2003 >>>> document handy) and typed a few words, saved as Word 97 - >>>> 2003 format .doc. >>>> - Opened LibreOffice Writer. >>>> - Opened the document I'd saved. >>>> - Read through document, added some text. >>>> - Saved document, and when prompted, saved in Office 2003 >>>> format. >>>> >>>> I did notice at that point, the NVDA seemed to lose focus. >>>> Pressing alt twice to go into the menu and back, or >>>> alt+tab to something else and back fixed the issue though. >>>> >>>> I tried again and had no problems, although I got the lose >>>> focus thing at one point moving through the text. I >>>> didn't find a concrete way to reproduce that. It's >>>> annoying, but it didn't bring the system down or >>>> anything. The focus itself was still in the document, so >>>> I could still move around and edit, it was just that NVDA >>>> wasn't reading properly so I expect it wouldn't be evident >>>> with NVDA not running. Nothing untoward in the NVDA log >>>> though. I have noticed occasional issues with LibreOffice >>>> so not sure if this is related to using a Word 2003 doc, >>>> or just a general LIbreOffice thing. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 5:55 AM, Don H <lmddh50@... >>>> <mailto:lmddh50@...> <mailto:lmddh50@... >>>> <mailto:lmddh50@...>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Running NVDA 2017.3 RC1 on a Win 10 system. >>>> Just installed LibreOffice and attempted to open and >>>> modify a MS >>>> Office 2003 document. If I change the document and >>>> select to save >>>> it as the original .doc file type it crashes >>>> LibreOffice to the >>>> point of needing a hard reboot to clear it. Is this a >>>> known issue >>>> with trying to use LibreOffice with Microsoft Office >>>> documents? >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Quentin Christensen >>>> Training and Support Manager >>>> >>>> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA >>>> E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ >>>> >>>> Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306> >>>> <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306> >>>> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org> >>>> <http://www.nvaccess.org/> >>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess> >>>> Twitter: @NVAccess >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Quentin Christensen >>>> Training and Support Manager >>>> >>>> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now >>>> available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ >>>> >>>> Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306> >>>> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/> >>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess >>>> Twitter: @NVAccess >>>> >>> >> > > > >
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Re: Wordperfect
Arlene
Same with me. When I moved from dos to windows. I started using Ms word 97. I never used word perfect 6.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mk360 Sent: August-27-17 3:56 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Wordperfect Yeah, 5.1 under msdos 6.22 and in my case with a spanish screen reader called "habla", and with an external spanish synthetizer called "ciber 232p"... good times... I also used Word Perfect 6.0 in msdos and I think I've the disketes somewhere in my home... I remember something about Word Perfect on Windows, but when I started to use windows I started with ms office... so, nothin to say about it. Regards, mk. El 27/08/2017 a las 19:46, Arlene escribió: It worked good during its time. I mean word perfect 5.1. It only worked for dos.
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Re: Wordperfect
mk360
Yeah, 5.1 under msdos 6.22 and in my case with a spanish screen reader called "habla", and with an external spanish synthetizer called "ciber 232p"... good times... I also used Word Perfect 6.0 in msdos and I think I've the disketes somewhere in my home...
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I remember something about Word Perfect on Windows, but when I started to use windows I started with ms office... so, nothin to say about it. Regards, mk.
El 27/08/2017 a las 19:46, Arlene escribió:
It worked good during its time. I mean word perfect 5.1. It only worked for dos.
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Re: Help With Eloquence
Arlene
You can get the paid addon for NVDA. The eloquence from Jaws is tied to it. I don’t use eloquence. I just use whatever NVDA came with.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo Sent: August-27-17 5:01 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Help With Eloquence I need the link 2the jaws add on for NVDA hq please or large voices/addpns for nvda NVDA is my favorit favorit creenreader in the world On 8/27/17, mattias <mjonsson1986@...> wrote: Open nvda menu insert+n -- for if you persavear. you will conker never fear. try try try again
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Re: Help With Eloquence
Gene
What add on? The paid one? If you are
asking about the illegal add on, information about illegal add ons isn't allowed
to be given on list.
Gene
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Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Help With Eloquence On 8/27/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote: > You can't use the jaws eloquence voice because it's tied to Jaws. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mr. > Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 5:01 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] Help With Eloquence > > I need the link 2the jaws add on for NVDA hq please or large voices/addpns > for nvda NVDA is my favorit favorit creenreader in the world > > On 8/27/17, mattias <mjonsson1986@...> wrote: >> Open nvda menu insert+n >> 2 times down Arrow >> There is a submenu called codefactory >> There should it be >> >> Skickades från E-post för Windows 10 >> >> Från: Gene >> Skickat: den 27 augusti 2017 09:54 >> Till: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> Ämne: Re: [nvda] Help With Eloquence >> >> please don't leave the group when you don't want to get mail from it. >> Every time you unsubscribe, when you subscribe and send a message, the >> first message you send has to be approved. Every new member has to >> have his first message approved. This is a setting list >> administrators can't change. It is a setting set by the entire list serve >> administrator. >> >> Please go nomail so that every time you want to start receiving mail >> and discuss something, the first message you send doesn't have to be >> approved. >> While messages are generally approved quickly or reasonbly promptly, >> you may wait many hours perhaps six or eight if neeither the owner or >> I look at the list because we are busy or sleeping. >> To go nomail, send a blank message to >> nvda+nomail@nvda.groups.io >> To resume receiving mail as individual messages, send a message to >> nvda+single@nvda.groups.io >> That will resume single delivery if you have gone nomail. >> >> Regarding your problem, did you shut down NVDA and run it again after >> installing the add on? >> >> Also, do you know about the SAPI5 Eloquence from, as I recall Code >> Factory? >> The eloquence in the add on you are trying has lots of annoying >> artifacts. >> The SAPI 5 Eloquence sounds as it should. You can get a demo of that >> version as well. If you have problems finding it, asking here should >> get you the information. >> >> Gene >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Ibrahim Ajayi >> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:27 PM >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> Subject: [nvda] Help With Eloquence >> >> Hi good people: >> I've just installed a copy of codefactory elequence expressive ad on >> for NVDA, and I am starting with the trial version. >> The program has been properly installed, and I've gone through the >> settings. But I cannot find the program in the synthesiser sub-menu >> of NVDA. >> Please can anyone help me understand what could have gone wrong, or >> what I didn't do properly? >> Regards. >> I am Ibrahim Ajayi from Nigeria. >> >> >> >> > > > -- > for if you persavear. you will conker never fear. try try try again > > > > > > > > -- for if you persavear. you will conker never fear. try try try again
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Re: sharing new folder in dropbox
Arlene
Hi, I hope I explain this right. You go onto www.dropbox.com There you go into your account. You find share a folder. There you can invite whoever you want to share a folder with.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony borg Sent: August-27-17 11:36 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] sharing new folder in dropbox Hi list Can anyone providing me instructions of how to create a new sharing folder with another person who has already a dropbox account. Thanks in advance Anthony -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: 26 August 2017 13:58 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: sharing new folder in dropbox Yes you can, but having bought Office I now would have to buy it again. its a pity if you have an old copy that you cannot just pay an upgrade price, but i suspect the upgrade from 2002, might be as much as a new one! I happen to like 2003/2 version of Word. I'm not going to get you started on ribbons again honest. brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Libreoffice I believe you can still; buy Office. As I recall, you have the option to rent or buy it. If I'm wrong, I expect others will know an correct me. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:56 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Libreoffice Yes i am not liiking Microsofts new rental approach to software either. I will, at some point have to choose something else when my current version of Word finally will no longer run in windows. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io" <wsautodidata@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Libreoffice I tested OpenOffice some time ago and it was still worse than LibreOffice.
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Re: Wordperfect
Arlene
It worked good during its time. I mean word perfect 5.1. It only worked for dos.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mk360 Sent: August-27-17 3:01 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Wordperfect Word perfect? WOW! its development continues? I remember Word Perfect 5.1... El 27/08/2017 a las 17:15, Arnþór Helgason escribió: Several years ago I tested Wordperfect and it was almost uncompletely
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Re: Wordperfect
Arlene
Hi, the only word perfect I used was 5.1. It only worked for dos! Not sure if people still use it.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arnþór Helgason Sent: August-27-17 1:16 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Wordperfect Several years ago I tested Wordperfect and it was almost uncompletely unaccessible. Does anyone know if it works now? I have recently come across Libreoffice which seems quite accessible. Good for those who don't use MS Word. Best regards, Arnthor Helgason -- --- Arnþór Helgason, Vináttusendiherra/Friendship Ambassador Formaður/chairman Kínversk-íslenska menningarfélagsins Icelandic Chinese Cultural Society Tjarnarbóli 14, 170 Seltjarnarnesi. Farsími | Mobile: +354 8973766 arnthor.helgason@... arnthor.helgason@... kim@... http://kim.is http://arnthorhelgason.blog.is http://hljod.blog.is
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Re: NVDA 2017.3 released
mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo <ochikodinaka@...>
will e speak b upgraded with new voices for nvda
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On 8/27/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
For crying out loud, knock it off! This has nothing to do with the subject --
for if you persavear. you will conker never fear. try try try again
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Re: Wordperfect
mk360
Word perfect? WOW! its development continues? I remember Word Perfect 5.1...
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El 27/08/2017 a las 17:15, Arnþór Helgason escribió:
Several years ago I tested Wordperfect and it was almost uncompletely unaccessible. Does anyone know if it works now?
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Re: Help With Eloquence
mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo <ochikodinaka@...>
yes I did. but I need the add on to eliqwence for NVDA everything is readey
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On 8/27/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
You can't use the jaws eloquence voice because it's tied to Jaws. --
for if you persavear. you will conker never fear. try try try again
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Re: Can any one suggest me how to get "DictationBridge.WSRMac?
Muklesur Rahman
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On 8/28/17, Antony Stone <antony.stone@...> wrote:
It might help if you give us a URL to the instructions you are trying to
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Re: Can any one suggest me how to get "DictationBridge.WSRMac?
Antony Stone
It might help if you give us a URL to the instructions you are trying to
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follow. Antony.
On Sunday 27 August 2017 at 21:08:49, Muklesur Rahman wrote:
Hello lists, I am trying to assign my computer with dictation bridge. --
Numerous psychological studies over the years have demonstrated that the majority of people genuinely believe they are not like the majority of people. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Can any one suggest me how to get "DictationBridge.WSRMac?
Muklesur Rahman
Hello lists, I am trying to assign my computer with dictation bridge.
According to the instruction, I need to copy a file named "Dictationbridge.WSRMac" into the speech folder but where and how to get that file is not mentioned. So, please help me. I want to dictate my computer to write the text.
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Re: FW: [nvda-translations] NVDA 2017.3 released
Kevin Cussick
well for me the problem is at this time solved.
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On 26/08/2017 22:20, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
It appears the problem was that when nvda was restarted with firefox running part of the accessibility system could no longer get access to the routines as Firefox had locked them down. the answer is to reboot firefox when this happens. I think the devs are looking for a way around it, but in the end it may need Firefox to fix something. its hard to follow as there are at least three interconnected tickets and some of the problems also affect Thunderbird as the same basic code is in both.
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Wordperfect
Arnþór Helgason <arnthor.helgason@...>
Several years ago I tested Wordperfect and it was almost uncompletely unaccessible. Does anyone know if it works now?
I have recently come across Libreoffice which seems quite accessible. Good for those who don't use MS Word. Best regards, Arnthor Helgason -- --- Arnþór Helgason, Vináttusendiherra/Friendship Ambassador Formaður/chairman Kínversk-íslenska menningarfélagsins Icelandic Chinese Cultural Society Tjarnarbóli 14, 170 Seltjarnarnesi. Farsími | Mobile: +354 8973766 arnthor.helgason@... arnthor.helgason@... kim@... http://kim.is http://arnthorhelgason.blog.is http://hljod.blog.is
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Re: can't get abbyy fine reader to work
I had no problem setting up ABBYY and using it to scan PDFs or jpg images. I originally used a cracked copy of the program I found on ThePirateBay, but eventually purchased a legal copy, which cost me £99 I think.
After I installed the legal copy I ran into a problem similar to the one you described. It opened a document for OCR fine, but when it tried to output it to a Word document it crashed. I asked their tech support for advice, and they suggested simply reinstalling it, which I did and it's worked fine ever since. I've never tried scanning and OCRing using ABBYY, but I've got a new scanner arriving next week so will hopefully give it a whirl :) Yes, £99 or the dollar equivalent is quite pricey, but I find it the best OCR conversion tool I've got. I bought the KNFB Reader recently while it was on offer, and find ABBYY easier to use. Here's the link to the Finereader program, and I notive that the price for version 14 is now £169, which I'd probably have been reluctant to pay when I bought my copy! https://www.abbyy.com/en-eu/finereader/ Giles
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