Date   

Acapella voices

 

Hello group,

I would like to know where could i download acapella voices for nvda?

Thank you so much

Arvind

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Re: Microsoft edge keyboard shortcuts

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


Thanks for this article mate.


Tony

On 8/23/2017 1:36 AM, Dr. arvind singh brar wrote:
Microsoft Edge keyboard shortcuts
table with 2 columns and 40 rows
Press this key
To do this
Ctrl + D
Add current site to favorites or reading list
Ctrl + I
Open favorites pane
Ctrl + J
Open downloads pane
Ctrl + H
Open history pane
Ctrl + P
Print the current page
Ctrl + F
Find on page
Alt + C
Open Cortana while you are in Edge!
Ctrl + Shift + R
Enter reading view
Ctrl + T
Open a new tab
Ctrl + Shift + T
Reopen the last closed tab
Ctrl + W or Ctrl + F4
Close the active tab
Ctrl + K
Duplicate tab
Ctrl + N
Open a new window
Ctrl + Shift + P
Open a new InPrivate Browsing window
Ctrl + Tab
Switch to the next tab
Ctrl + Shift + Tab
Switch to the previous tab
Ctrl + 1, 2, 3, and so on
Switch to a specific tab number
Ctrl + 9
Switch to the last tab
Ctrl + plus
Zoom in (25%)
Ctrl + minus
Zoom out (25%)
Ctrl + 0
Reset zoom level
Backspace or Alt + Left arrow
Go back to last web page
Alt + Right arrow
Go forward to next web page
F5 or Ctrl + R
Refresh the page
Escape
Stop loading the page
Ctrl + L or F4 or Alt + D
Select the address bar
Ctrl + Shift + L
Open address bar query in a new tab
Ctrl + E
Open a search query in the address bar
Ctrl + Enter
Add www. to the beginning and .com to the end of text typed in the address bar
Ctrl + click
Open link in a new tab
Ctrl + Shift + click
Open link in a new tab and switch to that tab
Alt + Shift + click
Open link in a new window
Ctrl + Shift +M
Start creating web notes
Ctrl + Alt + M
Copy selected content into a web note
F12
Open F12 Developer Tools
Ctrl + U
View source
F6
Toggle focus between webpage content and the address bar
F7
Turn caret browsing on for the active tab
Ctrl + Shift + Delete
Show controls to clear browsing data

Links to other resources
Keyboard shortcuts for Microsoft Edge: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13805


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problem with MS Outlook 2016 (nvda does not read all headlines)

J.G
 

Hi,

here is a description:
In my inbox folder in MS Outlook NVDA does not read headlines for all of messages, which are in Inbox folder. It works for CCA 150 messages but when I came to last messages, NVDA says nothing. If I press enter, the message would be opened even NVDA does not report, that focus is on message.
How can I solve this problem?
Hope, that I was clear.

BTW, I use NVDA 2017.3, but this problem has occured some days ago, when I used also version 2017.2.

Thanks.

kind regards, Jožef


Re: Open Office?

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


It Certainly does.  Cheers!


Tony

On 8/22/2017 2:12 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
I don't remember, but doe Open Office work with the current version of
NVDA? Thanks.




Re: Adobe Digital

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

~I~t has been some time since I touched digital editions, but I thought the standard selection com`mands worked as long as those features weren't blocked by antipiracy measures.  In that case,  shift right arrow should select one letter to the right.  Control shift right arrow should select the next word to the right.  Shift down arrow should select one line elow, and so on.

Hope this helps,

Erik```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

On August 28, 2017 9:35:32 PM heinrich@... wrote:

I have Adobe Digital  Editions 4.5 on a Windows  7 machine. I am a sighted user. With or without NVDA, the only way I could select text in an epub was using the mouse (and not getting voice feedback from NVDA in the process).  I could not locate a keyboard method to select text.


Re: what in the world is happening with firefox and nvda

Tony Ballou
 

Hi Shawn,


recently while working on 2 different PCS for 2 friends,  I found that
the closest thing that will perform in the ways you want is believe it
or not malware bytes. In both the paid and free versions, I was able to
create exceptions for programs which was what both of my clients needed,
without much of a problem, using the interface is a matter of tabbing
around the screen to the different parts of the program, and it is
accessible with NVDA. I am seriously considering making the jump to the
premium version of the program for both of my systems myself. It is
increasingly becoming more and more difficult to find antivirus and
security programs with decent accessibility support.


Tony

On 8/22/2017 3:52 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Well to be honest I'd just reinstall windows.

hitman is made by sophos now.

I am still searching for a good antivirus, I'd prefur not to pay
expensive subscriptions for something that may or may not stay
accessible though.

And if it is accessible, I want it to be msse accessible in other
words, I want it to fully work with either an addon or not.

Thats the way its going to have to be.

Msse is good access wize, but protection wize well I want something
that is easy to put exclusions for blind games and the like, I want
something I can control and configure easily and I want something
which performs and does not bog down the system or add extra unwanted
things.

I also want to trust my security program and not have to bother withit
unless I need to msse does that.

I need something with a accessible interface that uses standard
controls, etc.

If it needs to be a subscription for my 3 pc network and maybe others
I want something low cost to.

An entire suite will be nice I guess but its not needed.





On 22/08/2017 2:21 p.m., Gene wrote:
Maybe files have been unregistered by the program but I'd be worried
that files have been removed.  Does the program quaranteen files or
just remove them?

Also, does the person have system restore points from before the
problem started?
And if files have been removed that are Windows files, not just
unregistered, and if no restore points are available from before the
time the problem started, is there a way to repair Windows that will
restore the files?  I don't know enough about repairing Windows or
having Windows replace missing files to comment further.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Tony Ballou
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 8:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what in the world is happening with firefox and nvda


Hi Gene,




I think I know what's happened. While at my friend's house we updated
her hitman pro antivirus to the latest version and all seemed to work
well until I went into firefox.  I'm testing the same set of
scenarios on my system here at home and have gotten the exact same
problems that she has. I've sent the information on to my sighted
partner and between the 2 of us we should be able to straighten
things out. We will also put together a piece on this and send it to
the folks who make the antivirus program to let them know that this
happens.



Tony

On 8/21/2017 8:55 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

   Hi Tony




   I know the first email from off my website that fixed my problem
but it has to be done exactly the way it was sent.




   The later one for windows 10 i was not aware of until i posted a
attachments and jamie pointed me towards the comments on the others.
I see they were for windows 7 and 8 and 10 and there were some
patches but i think they were for 7 and 8?




   hopefully they get it sorted. If or when it fixes it get them to
save a restore point in windows.




   Gene nz






   On 22/08/2017 12:49, Tony Ballou wrote:

Hey Gene,


Thanks for this information mate. Because registry editing may come into
play, I explained what was happening in Firefox to my partners earlier
today. I've sent them the stuff you gave me and we will give the
solutions a try. I'll keep you posted on how things workout.


Tony


On 8/20/2017 5:45 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi Tony


the link to the page where the other fixes are can be found at
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807#issuecomment-320149243


This is what i just copied off it and there looks to be a reg patch but
think it is for windows 7 or 8.


8. On Windows 10 (both 32 and 64 bit), also enter the following command:
c:\windows\system32\regsvr32
c:\windows\system32\OneCoreCommonProxyStub.dll
9. On Windows 10 64 bit, also enter the following command:
c:\windows\syswow64\regsvr32
c:\windows\syswow64\OneCoreCommonProxyStub.dll


Gene nz

On 21/08/2017 09:13, Tony Ballou wrote:
Hey Gene,


It has said unknown in Thunderbird yes indeed. I haven't played with
edge.  However, I am seeing many of those symptoms that you're talking
about in Firefox .


Tony


On 8/20/2017 5:05 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi tony


can you tell me if nvda is doing any of the following? In all browsers
is he saying unknown or will not speak the contents of the web page? did
the page fully load try the f5 key to do this or use the nvda key + f5
key and see if it plays nicely?

Does he work in microsoft edge and read out the contents?


Down on the running application area on the task bar does nvda speak any
of the programs there?


When you hit the applications key does nvda speak any of the menus as
you arrow down it?


If you are running mozilla thunder bird does it say unknown as you tab
into it or try to get to messages or the menus it would be the same for
mozilla fire fox.


Gene nz



On 21/08/2017 08:32, Tony Ballou wrote:
howdy mates

for some reason nVDA and firefox are having quite a time getting along
with each other now.  When web pages come up you get the announcement
that the page is up, however, nothing else works. Tabbing through the
page for links, browse mode keystrokes, everything appears to be shot.
Does anyone know what happened, and a fix for it if there is one?  Very
strange indeed.  using the latest versions of both windows 10 pro and
NVda.

Tony







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you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their
computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you
please visit
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near you, please visit the following link
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Re: How to get focus on a specific element upon loading

Dejan Ristic
 

What about unchecking 'Automatic say all on page load[', option which is found in the browse mode submenu contained in the preferences menu? I have experienced such similarities when the very option has been checked, for when a webpage loads, NVDA starts reading it, moving focus down along the page. When I've decided to uncheck it, I usually find my NVDA positioned at the top of a webpage when it is loaded.


Hope this helps


Dejan


On 8/29/2017 11:41 AM, Lado Tadic wrote:

Thank you for your response.

 

In my case, I have strange behavior where focus is not starting from the first element in the html, but somewhere in footer, and that is only for Mozilla browser.

If I cannot enforce it on specific element, is there a way to make it start from the first html element?

Maybe by adding some id parameters in html ?

 

Thanks,

 

Lado Tadic
SE

enjoy
.ing d.o.o.

Bulevar Milutina Milankovića 9e, GTC FORTYONE
RS-11070 Novi Beograd
Phone: +381 11 40 30 150
Mobile: +387 66 860 368
www.enjoying.rs

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 11:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to get focus on a specific element upon loading

 

I don't know if any screen-readers allow you to do this.  But that’s one example of why the find command is so useful and so underused.  Is there a word in the logo that is distinctive?  If so, do an NVDA search for it after the page loads.  The search command is very useful in other ways.  Say, for example, you go to a newspaper site and a section you want to read is named Editorials and it’s a link.  Use the screen-reader find command to search for edito.  You don't need to write the full word usually when doing a search.  The first four or five letters of a word that isn't likely to be found elsewhere on the page is sufficient.  This is a case where you wuld use five letters because four, edit, would cause the search to stop on words like editor if present. 

 

In NVEDA, the screen-reader find command, used in browse mode, is NVDA key f.  To repeat the search from where you are, the command is NVDA key f3. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Lado Tadic

Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 4:06 AM

Subject: [nvda] How to get focus on a specific element upon loading

 

Hi Everyone,

 

Can you help me with this issue.

 

I am trying to focus screen reader on a logo (or some other specific html element) of a web-page upon loading it first time.

How can I be sure that screen reader will start on some element every time.

 

Thanks in advance,

Lado Tadic
SE

enjoy
.ing d.o.o.

 



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Re: How to get focus on a specific element upon loading

David Griffith
 

Flexible web with Jaws and the Sweet spot feature in Mac Voiceover are the only Screenreaders I know that can provide this function by default.  I think however there is a placemarker addon add on in NVDA which would provide one key access to this function?

 

David Griffith

 

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From: Gene
Sent: 29 August 2017 10:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to get focus on a specific element upon loading

 

I don't know if any screen-readers allow you to do this.  But that’s one example of why the find command is so useful and so underused.  Is there a word in the logo that is distinctive?  If so, do an NVDA search for it after the page loads.  The search command is very useful in other ways.  Say, for example, you go to a newspaper site and a section you want to read is named Editorials and it’s a link.  Use the screen-reader find command to search for edito.  You don't need to write the full word usually when doing a search.  The first four or five letters of a word that isn't likely to be found elsewhere on the page is sufficient.  This is a case where you wuld use five letters because four, edit, would cause the search to stop on words like editor if present. 

 

In NVEDA, the screen-reader find command, used in browse mode, is NVDA key f.  To repeat the search from where you are, the command is NVDA key f3. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Lado Tadic

Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 4:06 AM

Subject: [nvda] How to get focus on a specific element upon loading

 

Hi Everyone,

 

Can you help me with this issue.

 

I am trying to focus screen reader on a logo (or some other specific html element) of a web-page upon loading it first time.

How can I be sure that screen reader will start on some element every time.

 

Thanks in advance,

Lado Tadic
SE

enjoy
.ing d.o.o.

 

 


Re: Unable to Install NVDA 17.3 on HP laptop

Quentin Christensen
 

When you go to install a program, Windows pops up a dialog advising that you are about to change the system and you need to accept that before you can install the program.  Sometimes this dialog appears behind other windows.  In that case, you may need to alt+tab to it if it doesn't seem to appear.

That is usually the reason for this kind of problem.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 5:09 PM, Akbar S. Currim <raahzam@...> wrote:
Hi,

I tried to install NVDA17.3 on my HP laptop and although I could
download the new version without any difficulty and also after
clicking to install it when I got the message to do so the configuring
progress went on and on for at least 20 minutes and after that I got
an error message saying that the installation failed.  I tried the
same thing three times with the same result.  Could someone please
enlighten me as to what is happening and how I could remedy the same.

Incidentally I had no problem updating NVDA on my second laptop which
is an Asus.  Both laptops are running Win 10 duly updated to the
latest version.  On the second laptop the installation took only a few
minutes and there was no problem at all.

I give below the log I received for the installation failure.  Any
help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and regards,

Akbar

Log for failure:
INFO - __main__ (10:41:42.874):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.140):
Config dir: C:\Users\Akbar\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (10:41:43.140):
Loading config: C:\Users\Akbar\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154):
NVDA version 2017.3
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154):
Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154):
Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016,
20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154):
Using comtypes version 0.6.2
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (10:41:43.940):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.940):
Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (10:41:43.940):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (10:41:43.940):
Using liblouis version 3.2.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (10:41:43.940):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (10:41:43.994):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (10:41:43.994):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3
INFO - core.main (10:41:45.861):
NVDA initialized
ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (11:26:41.197):
Failed to execute installer
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "gui\installerGui.pyo", line 32, in doInstall
  File "config\__init__.pyo", line 182, in execElevated
  File "shellapi.pyo", line 42, in ShellExecuteEx
WindowsError: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.
ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (11:26:41.198):
Installation failed: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.






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Re: How to get focus on a specific element upon loading

Lado Tadic <lado.tadic@...>
 

Thank you for your response.

 

In my case, I have strange behavior where focus is not starting from the first element in the html, but somewhere in footer, and that is only for Mozilla browser.

If I cannot enforce it on specific element, is there a way to make it start from the first html element?

Maybe by adding some id parameters in html ?

 

Thanks,

 

Lado Tadic
SE

enjoy
.ing d.o.o.

Bulevar Milutina Milankovića 9e, GTC FORTYONE
RS-11070 Novi Beograd
Phone: +381 11 40 30 150
Mobile: +387 66 860 368
www.enjoying.rs

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 11:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to get focus on a specific element upon loading

 

I don't know if any screen-readers allow you to do this.  But that’s one example of why the find command is so useful and so underused.  Is there a word in the logo that is distinctive?  If so, do an NVDA search for it after the page loads.  The search command is very useful in other ways.  Say, for example, you go to a newspaper site and a section you want to read is named Editorials and it’s a link.  Use the screen-reader find command to search for edito.  You don't need to write the full word usually when doing a search.  The first four or five letters of a word that isn't likely to be found elsewhere on the page is sufficient.  This is a case where you wuld use five letters because four, edit, would cause the search to stop on words like editor if present. 

 

In NVEDA, the screen-reader find command, used in browse mode, is NVDA key f.  To repeat the search from where you are, the command is NVDA key f3. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Lado Tadic

Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 4:06 AM

Subject: [nvda] How to get focus on a specific element upon loading

 

Hi Everyone,

 

Can you help me with this issue.

 

I am trying to focus screen reader on a logo (or some other specific html element) of a web-page upon loading it first time.

How can I be sure that screen reader will start on some element every time.

 

Thanks in advance,

Lado Tadic
SE

enjoy
.ing d.o.o.

 


Re: How to get focus on a specific element upon loading

Gene
 

I don't know if any screen-readers allow you to do this.  But that’s one example of why the find command is so useful and so underused.  Is there a word in the logo that is distinctive?  If so, do an NVDA search for it after the page loads.  The search command is very useful in other ways.  Say, for example, you go to a newspaper site and a section you want to read is named Editorials and it’s a link.  Use the screen-reader find command to search for edito.  You don't need to write the full word usually when doing a search.  The first four or five letters of a word that isn't likely to be found elsewhere on the page is sufficient.  This is a case where you wuld use five letters because four, edit, would cause the search to stop on words like editor if present. 
 
In NVEDA, the screen-reader find command, used in browse mode, is NVDA key f.  To repeat the search from where you are, the command is NVDA key f3. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Lado Tadic
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 4:06 AM
Subject: [nvda] How to get focus on a specific element upon loading

Hi Everyone,

 

Can you help me with this issue.

 

I am trying to focus screen reader on a logo (or some other specific html element) of a web-page upon loading it first time.

How can I be sure that screen reader will start on some element every time.

 

Thanks in advance,

Lado Tadic
SE

enjoy
.ing d.o.o.

 


How to get focus on a specific element upon loading

Lado Tadic <lado.tadic@...>
 

Hi Everyone,

 

Can you help me with this issue.

 

I am trying to focus screen reader on a logo (or some other specific html element) of a web-page upon loading it first time.

How can I be sure that screen reader will start on some element every time.

 

Thanks in advance,

Lado Tadic
SE

enjoy
.ing d.o.o.

 


Re: how to create an edge brouser shortcut on the desktop?

anthony borg
 

Hi scott

Thanks once again I really appreciated your help.

I’m just a beginner in computers.

Best regards

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott VanDeWalle
Sent: 29 August 2017 02:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to create an edge brouser shortcut on the desktop?

 

You are welcome, I’m glad I could help.

 

Have a nice day.

 

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 5:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to create an edge brouser shortcut on the desktop?

 

Hi, Scott,

 

Thanks for the tip on creating a desktop shortcut for microsoft edge. I tried doing it the way I was used to doing it in other programs by typing "edge" in the start search box and using the applications key but that didn't work. Thanks again for this tip.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott VanDeWalle
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 10:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to create an edge brouser shortcut on the desktop?

 

Hi Anthony.

 

1: press windows key and r for the run dialogue

2: Type shell:appsfolder and hit enter

3: When the list of programs pops up use first letter navigation letter m until you hear Microsoft edge.

4: Hit the context menu key or shift f 10.

5: Arrow until you find create shortcut and hit enter.

6: You will be told that the shortcut can not be created here and it will ask you if you want to place it on the desktop instead.

7: Tab to the yes button and hit enter.

And there you go.

Note: you can name the newly created icon anything you want.

I hope this helps.

Have a nice day

 

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 11:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] how to create an edge brouser shortcut on the desktop?

 

                Hi folks,

Can anyone explain to me how to create a shortcut of the edge brouser on the desktop please?

Any help would be appreciate it. >

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

 


Re: Unable to Install NVDA 17.3 on HP laptop

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Have you tried running as administrator. You do not say what the type of account you have on this laptop allows you to do. Can is install other software without any issues?
I noticed Eloquence in there. Does this mean that there is already a copy of nvda with that synth set on the computer already?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Akbar S. Currim" <raahzam@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 8:09 AM
Subject: [nvda] Unable to Install NVDA 17.3 on HP laptop


Hi,

I tried to install NVDA17.3 on my HP laptop and although I could
download the new version without any difficulty and also after
clicking to install it when I got the message to do so the configuring
progress went on and on for at least 20 minutes and after that I got
an error message saying that the installation failed. I tried the
same thing three times with the same result. Could someone please
enlighten me as to what is happening and how I could remedy the same.

Incidentally I had no problem updating NVDA on my second laptop which
is an Asus. Both laptops are running Win 10 duly updated to the
latest version. On the second laptop the installation took only a few
minutes and there was no problem at all.

I give below the log I received for the installation failure. Any
help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and regards,

Akbar

Log for failure:
INFO - __main__ (10:41:42.874):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.140):
Config dir: C:\Users\Akbar\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (10:41:43.140):
Loading config: C:\Users\Akbar\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154):
NVDA version 2017.3
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154):
Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154):
Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016,
20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154):
Using comtypes version 0.6.2
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (10:41:43.940):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.940):
Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (10:41:43.940):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (10:41:43.940):
Using liblouis version 3.2.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (10:41:43.940):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (10:41:43.994):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (10:41:43.994):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3
INFO - core.main (10:41:45.861):
NVDA initialized
ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (11:26:41.197):
Failed to execute installer
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "gui\installerGui.pyo", line 32, in doInstall
File "config\__init__.pyo", line 182, in execElevated
File "shellapi.pyo", line 42, in ShellExecuteEx
WindowsError: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.
ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (11:26:41.198):
Installation failed: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.


Re: NVDA SOUNDS

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The new sounds have not been perused due to the fact many had issues hearing them.
See my previous message. Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. arvind singh brar" <arvindsinghbrar@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS


Hello

I personally, am ok with the new nvda sounds,

New; but still a nice change,

This is just my opinion,
Arvind

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Re: NVDA SOUNDS

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I use Quincy, but then I would since I made it in the first place.
On sounds, did I nott see an add on that allowed other sounds on the ad on site. I believe eventually the idea is to make this type of option part of nvda. At the moment its awkward as on a standard install, the update overwrites th sound files in nvda. but there is noting stopping you form fiddling with them on the current install. they are in a folder called waves in the main nvda folder in program fiiles (x86)
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From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS


I don't mind the sounds myself. The Max voice in espeak is pretty easy to understand for me.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vanessa Ochoa via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 4:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS



hi how many of you do not like the sounds in nvda i personally do not like the sounds and I would like to create sound packages to distribute them to users who like me do not like the sounds in nvda i like nvda but i do not like the sounds what do you all think about that i really want to help people who like me are anoyd of the sounds that come with nvda


Re: Windows ten and email/newsgroups

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Yes, but because its Outlook Express, it assumes its left over from an earlier time and moves it to the old windows folder and breaks the thing completely.
I still think that when a program does a major overwrite as 10 does, it should first of all tell you which bits of software its going to disable and let you make the choice whether to retain them or not.
Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 2:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows ten and email/newsgroups


If you have not tried setting compatibility mode for an earlier version of windows, see: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/15078/windows-make-older-programs-compatible
( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/15078/windows-make-older-programs-compatible ) Might be worth a try.


Re: Settings

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Suggestion, when you are happy with all the settings, create a portable copy on a ram stick using the same settings, then if you want to get them back simply use the portable version to install a new copy with the same settings.
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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 1:32 AM
Subject: [nvda] Settings


In nvda I see the save configuration option I have used this however I do
not know where it says to so that I can make a backup copy. What I am
looking is to save all of my settings such as voice speech and rate so that
if I have another computer crash I can use that settings that I have saved
off of my computer and put everything back to the way I want. Return Cindy




Re: no caps when typing letters

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I find the raise pitch setting more usable with most synths myself.
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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 1:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] no caps when typing letters


Never mind, I discovered that it is because the say "cap" before capital letters was turned off.




Dan Beaver




On 8/28/2017 8:23 PM, Dan wrote:

Hi,




I am using NVDA 2017-3 with Windows 10 Creator's version. I am using the laptop keyboard configuration.





I just noticed that when typing no cap letters are being honored. I tried it in emails under Thunderbird and on the command prompt. I can try it in other places too if needed.




It does honor the shift state when typing other kinds of characters like parentheses or dollar sign and the like. Just not letters.





Any idea what to do about this?




Dan Beaver





Re: Windows ten and email/newsgroups

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Yes tried looking at the attribute thing. Windows takes no notice.
the registry entries for OE are very large and complex, a lot of them hidden in identities with impenetrable key names made up of seemingly hex numbers and letters.
One route I'm going to try to pursue is that there used to be a complete back up and restore for OE under XP written by a third party, and if one could get that to ework in 10 it might be the way to go, assuming it does not screw stuff up.
I am planning to get ten up and running again at Christmas on a new machine, hence me investigating alternative ways to go. Having read the trials and tribulations of the mail app here, I'm loathe to change to this or Thunderbird as the shortcut keys are different and one cannot do news.
Identities are vital to me to keep accounts in little boxes. I don't like the large tree of folders approach at all. Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows ten and email/newsgroups


Brian, I don't use windows 10, so don't know how it does it's moving thing, but you could try changing the attributes of the various files in the directory in question to be read only. That might prevent windows from moving it away from it's functional location. Failing that, you may be able to use a batch file to copy it back to it's proper position, and add the registry keys (if any) back so that it will behave properly. Having never tried such a thing, I don't know how successful it would be, but I do know you can add registry entries from batch files, I have done that much, but never tried changing attributes to prevent windows from breaking things.

It may be worth a try though.



On 8/28/2017 5:48 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I imagine a lot of people here are using one of the following.
Thunderbird
Outlook from office
Bear in mind my need for Usenet groups.
I am currently using Outlook Express, the original version with the extra code sold by a third party so it can run on later versions of windows, like 7 8 and 10.
However if used in the latter operating system, every time Microsoft do one of their updates it trashes Outlook express and puts it into a folder with other non working stuff.
OK you can reinstall it, but then you have to set it up and import oll the accounts signatures and messages contacts from wherever they went.
It occurred to me that it may well be possible to protect it from this treatment after all we do not want to all be using the silly new mail client that fails again in nvda every time an update happens.
Anyone know of any forum or piece of code that can preserve settings of old programs and put them back or protect them from Windows 10 draconian attempts to improve things worse for us?
Obviously any such routine or work around has, in itself to be accessible to nvda, which is why I'm asking here.

Brian

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