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computer Braille

Andrea Sherry
 

Need a list of computer braille simbals i.e. the dot format and then the equivalent simbal.

Can anyone assist with a web site?

Andrea

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Re: [NVDA stopping Outlook 2016

laura cornwell <cornwelll627@...>
 

Well  I am having the same trouble   and I don't know where this could be coming from  I would also like to know  now when I use the screen reader that


comes with Windows  outlook works fine. all the best to fixing this trouble.    On 8/25/2017 5:31 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:

I have Outlook 2007 and it works fine with NVDA until I try to read the status bar using NVDA+end when Outlook stops working and I have to restart it. This has occurred in quite a few versions of NVDA up to 17.2. I'm not saying it's an NVDA problem, it may be something to do with the interaction between the information exposed by Outlook and how NVDA obtains it whichh causes it. I doubt MS would do anything to solve it, so I just avoid using that keystroke.

Cheers#

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: 25 August 2017 10:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] [NVDA stopping Outlook 2016

Hi everyone,

I am running Outlook 2016 on Windows 10 with the latest update of NVDA.

Over the past month, I have found that outlook stops and runs out of time almost every time (four times a day) that I check my emails. I notice the problem particularly when I try to swap between folders. This generates the message that Outlook has stopped working and will close. Today, I downloaded the newest update of NVDA and yet the problem is still persisting.

I unloaded NVDA and brought up JAWS. With JAWS running I am able to swap between folders without any delay so I am convinced that NDA is causing the problem.

Before loading JAWS, I had a very full outlook .pst file and reduced that from 1.2g to 200mb. I have no addins so that can't be the cause.
Has anyone experienced this problem? Is there a known solution?


I would really value a response as I much prefer to use NVDA rather than JAWS!

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...









Re: NVDA SOUNDS

mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo <ochikodinaka@...>
 

sorry I am sorry! I will go there my self sorry about that

On 8/29/17, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
Um no! They are and never will be free!


On 8/29/2017 11:13 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo wrote:
don't I get vocalizer for free thru www.blindhelp.net

On 8/29/17, Scott VanDeWalle <scottvandewalle2@...> wrote:
Going to go there and try to find this ad-on since I’d be interested in
possible new nvda sounds, just for a change of pace.. smile.

Scott

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 4:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS

I use Quincy, but then I would since I made it in the first place.
On sounds, did I nott see an add on that allowed other sounds on the ad
on

site. I believe eventually the idea is to make this type of option part
of

nvda. At the moment its awkward as on a standard install, the update
overwrites th sound files in nvda. but there is noting stopping you form
fiddling with them on the current install. they are in a folder called
waves

in the main nvda folder in program fiiles (x86)
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS


I don't mind the sounds myself. The Max voice in espeak is pretty easy
to
understand for me.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Vanessa

Ochoa via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 4:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS



hi how many of you do not like the sounds in nvda i personally do not
like
the sounds and I would like to create sound packages to distribute them
to
users who like me do not like the sounds in nvda i like nvda but i do
not
like the sounds what do you all think about that i really want to help
people who like me are anoyd of the sounds that come with nvda











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Re: NVDA SOUNDS

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Um no! They are and never will be free!

On 8/29/2017 11:13 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo wrote:
don't I get vocalizer for free thru www.blindhelp.net

On 8/29/17, Scott VanDeWalle <scottvandewalle2@...> wrote:
Going to go there and try to find this ad-on since I’d be interested in
possible new nvda sounds, just for a change of pace.. smile.

Scott

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 4:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS

I use Quincy, but then I would since I made it in the first place.
On sounds, did I nott see an add on that allowed other sounds on the ad on

site. I believe eventually the idea is to make this type of option part of

nvda. At the moment its awkward as on a standard install, the update
overwrites th sound files in nvda. but there is noting stopping you form
fiddling with them on the current install. they are in a folder called waves

in the main nvda folder in program fiiles (x86)
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS


I don't mind the sounds myself. The Max voice in espeak is pretty easy to
understand for me.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vanessa

Ochoa via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 4:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS



hi how many of you do not like the sounds in nvda i personally do not like
the sounds and I would like to create sound packages to distribute them to
users who like me do not like the sounds in nvda i like nvda but i do not
like the sounds what do you all think about that i really want to help
people who like me are anoyd of the sounds that come with nvda









Re: NVDA SOUNDS

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Mr. Chikodinaka,
The Vocalizer drivers for NVDA available on the mentioned website are illegal.
Thanks.

On 8/30/17, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
<ochikodinaka@...> wrote:
don't I get vocalizer for free thru www.blindhelp.net

On 8/29/17, Scott VanDeWalle <scottvandewalle2@...> wrote:
Going to go there and try to find this ad-on since I’d be interested in
possible new nvda sounds, just for a change of pace.. smile.

Scott

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 4:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS

I use Quincy, but then I would since I made it in the first place.
On sounds, did I nott see an add on that allowed other sounds on the ad
on

site. I believe eventually the idea is to make this type of option part
of

nvda. At the moment its awkward as on a standard install, the update
overwrites th sound files in nvda. but there is noting stopping you form
fiddling with them on the current install. they are in a folder called
waves

in the main nvda folder in program fiiles (x86)
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS


I don't mind the sounds myself. The Max voice in espeak is pretty easy to
understand for me.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Vanessa

Ochoa via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 4:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS



hi how many of you do not like the sounds in nvda i personally do not
like
the sounds and I would like to create sound packages to distribute them
to
users who like me do not like the sounds in nvda i like nvda but i do not
like the sounds what do you all think about that i really want to help
people who like me are anoyd of the sounds that come with nvda









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Re: NVDA SOUNDS

mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo <ochikodinaka@...>
 

don't I get vocalizer for free thru www.blindhelp.net

On 8/29/17, Scott VanDeWalle <scottvandewalle2@...> wrote:
Going to go there and try to find this ad-on since I’d be interested in
possible new nvda sounds, just for a change of pace.. smile.

Scott

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 4:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS

I use Quincy, but then I would since I made it in the first place.
On sounds, did I nott see an add on that allowed other sounds on the ad on

site. I believe eventually the idea is to make this type of option part of

nvda. At the moment its awkward as on a standard install, the update
overwrites th sound files in nvda. but there is noting stopping you form
fiddling with them on the current install. they are in a folder called waves

in the main nvda folder in program fiiles (x86)
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
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in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS


I don't mind the sounds myself. The Max voice in espeak is pretty easy to
understand for me.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vanessa

Ochoa via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 4:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS



hi how many of you do not like the sounds in nvda i personally do not like
the sounds and I would like to create sound packages to distribute them to
users who like me do not like the sounds in nvda i like nvda but i do not
like the sounds what do you all think about that i really want to help
people who like me are anoyd of the sounds that come with nvda








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Re: NVDA SOUNDS

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi how do you install these sounds?
Once you have them down loaded so that you can use them?

-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 5:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS

Hee you go.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gewosm6sktn6wkk/OBJSounds%20%28KevanGC%20Version%29.nvda-addon?dl=1
On Aug 29, 2017, at 2:29 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo <ochikodinaka@...> wrote:

how do I get vocialzer on my pc for free where do I go

On 8/29/17, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
can I get those nvda ad ons the one that you have?
On 8/29/2017 10:03 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I love the ONJ sound apck I have. It just rocks. Ther is another one
on the add ons page, but theeONJ one is not official, I don't think.

Take care
On Aug 28, 2017, at 7:27 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
<ochikodinaka@... <mailto:ochikodinaka@...>> wrote:

ooh! oo! Ooh! doo it! bild soundpackages ask Josfe Leee tell him u
want to binld soundpackages for NVDA email me thw Gist!
ochikodinaka@... <mailto:ochikodinaka@...>! is is my
email address

On 8/28/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...
<mailto:knitqueen2007@...>> wrote:
I don't mind the sounds myself. The Max voice in espeak is pretty
easy to
understand for me.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vanessa
Ochoa via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 4:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS



hi how many of you do not like the sounds in nvda i personally do
not like
the sounds and I would like to create sound packages to distribute
them to
users who like me do not like the sounds in nvda i like nvda but i
do not
like the sounds what do you all think about that i really want to help
people who like me are anoyd of the sounds that come with nvda




--
for if you persavear. you will conker never fear. try try try again

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for if you persavear. you will conker never fear. try try try again







Casey


Re: NVDA SOUNDS

Scott VanDeWalle
 

Going to go there and try to find this ad-on since I’d be interested in possible new nvda sounds, just for a change of pace..  smile.

 

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 4:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS

 

I use Quincy, but then I would since I made it in the first place.

On sounds, did I nott see an add on that allowed other sounds on the ad on

site. I believe eventually the idea is to make this type of  option part of

nvda. At the moment its awkward as on a standard install, the update

overwrites th sound files in nvda. but there is noting stopping you form

fiddling with them on the current install. they are in a folder called waves

in the main nvda folder in program fiiles (x86)

Brian

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 3:21 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS

 

 

I don't mind the sounds myself. The Max voice in espeak is pretty easy to

understand for me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vanessa

Ochoa via Groups.Io

Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 4:05 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS

 

 

 

hi how many of you do not like the sounds in nvda i personally do not like

the sounds and I would like to create sound packages to distribute them to

users who like me do not like the sounds in nvda i like nvda but i do not

like the sounds what do you all think about that i really want to help

people who like me are anoyd of the sounds that come with nvda

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA SOUNDS

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

The startup and shut downsounds don't bother me. ESpeak does and you all know how I feel about that thing already.

On 8/28/2017 10:27 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo wrote:
ooh! oo! Ooh! doo it! bild soundpackages ask Josfe Leee tell him u
want to binld soundpackages for NVDA email me thw Gist!
ochikodinaka@...! is is my email address

On 8/28/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
I don't mind the sounds myself. The Max voice in espeak is pretty easy to
understand for me.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vanessa
Ochoa via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 4:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS



hi how many of you do not like the sounds in nvda i personally do not like
the sounds and I would like to create sound packages to distribute them to
users who like me do not like the sounds in nvda i like nvda but i do not
like the sounds what do you all think about that i really want to help
people who like me are anoyd of the sounds that come with nvda




Re: what in the world is happening with firefox and nvda

 

Hi tony, yeah I hear you.

I run malwarebytes once a year and it usually doesn't find much of anything usually.

Windows defender is getting a facelift in the next windows version but who knows.

After disasters with other apps I came to the end of my teather, and that was basically that I didn't want to spend my life babysitting security software.

Usually it would be me turn on computer x y z.

The security software updates or not sometimes I have to do it.

The said software deciding I need securing ignoring what I put into it so I have to reconfig that.

Or it happily clobbers x y z and a b e d f g 5 s e or whatever and then says its done.

Except that something I don't want gone is gone.

Then it won't let things through, then I have to argue with it that the printer is not a problem.

Then a user wants to allow things through.

Even if then it all works and something tries to get in, the multidialogs popping up saying something tried to get in means I have to keep denying them.

And even when all that worked, I need to remove software or a bit of it to get something sorted.

I turn it off.

I turn it on except in turning itself off its mangled itself so it can't be turned on.

At this point one would reinstall the software but it doesn't cleanly.

So I need to reformat all computers hope that they will last another 2 weeks or so enough for me to get my life before the next reformat.

Reformat reformat fixes everything because a reformat is good for you.

ANd for 2 years everytime I got a problem it just got a nice reformat.

One day I broke my temper at it.

Even if it didn't fail, even if I didn't have to reformat, even if I didn't have a problem, even if it was a normal day, there was a 30 minute config time, 2 hours to make sure it worked and 3 hours of well hoping things didn't screw.

Msse works, even avg needed a bit of coaxing but yeah.

I am seriously over the security thing.

And it probably won't matter after I go to 10.

I am more worried about ms hoping they don't kill skype classic.

On 30/08/2017 12:06 a.m., Tony Ballou wrote:
Hi Shawn,


recently while working on 2 different PCS for 2 friends,  I found that
the closest thing that will perform in the ways you want is believe it
or not malware bytes. In both the paid and free versions, I was able to
create exceptions for programs which was what both of my clients needed,
without much of a problem, using the interface is a matter of tabbing
around the screen to the different parts of the program, and it is
accessible with NVDA. I am seriously considering making the jump to the
premium version of the program for both of my systems myself. It is
increasingly becoming more and more difficult to find antivirus and
security programs with decent accessibility support.


Tony

On 8/22/2017 3:52 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Well to be honest I'd just reinstall windows.

hitman is made by sophos now.

I am still searching for a good antivirus, I'd prefur not to pay
expensive subscriptions for something that may or may not stay
accessible though.

And if it is accessible, I want it to be msse accessible in other
words, I want it to fully work with either an addon or not.

Thats the way its going to have to be.

Msse is good access wize, but protection wize well I want something
that is easy to put exclusions for blind games and the like, I want
something I can control and configure easily and I want something
which performs and does not bog down the system or add extra unwanted
things.

I also want to trust my security program and not have to bother withit
unless I need to msse does that.

I need something with a accessible interface that uses standard
controls, etc.

If it needs to be a subscription for my 3 pc network and maybe others
I want something low cost to.

An entire suite will be nice I guess but its not needed.





On 22/08/2017 2:21 p.m., Gene wrote:
Maybe files have been unregistered by the program but I'd be worried
that files have been removed.  Does the program quaranteen files or
just remove them?

Also, does the person have system restore points from before the
problem started?
And if files have been removed that are Windows files, not just
unregistered, and if no restore points are available from before the
time the problem started, is there a way to repair Windows that will
restore the files?  I don't know enough about repairing Windows or
having Windows replace missing files to comment further.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Tony Ballou
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 8:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what in the world is happening with firefox and nvda


Hi Gene,




I think I know what's happened. While at my friend's house we updated
her hitman pro antivirus to the latest version and all seemed to work
well until I went into firefox.  I'm testing the same set of
scenarios on my system here at home and have gotten the exact same
problems that she has. I've sent the information on to my sighted
partner and between the 2 of us we should be able to straighten
things out. We will also put together a piece on this and send it to
the folks who make the antivirus program to let them know that this
happens.



Tony

On 8/21/2017 8:55 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

   Hi Tony




   I know the first email from off my website that fixed my problem
but it has to be done exactly the way it was sent.




   The later one for windows 10 i was not aware of until i posted a
attachments and jamie pointed me towards the comments on the others.
I see they were for windows 7 and 8 and 10 and there were some
patches but i think they were for 7 and 8?




   hopefully they get it sorted. If or when it fixes it get them to
save a restore point in windows.




   Gene nz






   On 22/08/2017 12:49, Tony Ballou wrote:

Hey Gene,


Thanks for this information mate. Because registry editing may come into
play, I explained what was happening in Firefox to my partners earlier
today. I've sent them the stuff you gave me and we will give the
solutions a try. I'll keep you posted on how things workout.


Tony


On 8/20/2017 5:45 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi Tony


the link to the page where the other fixes are can be found at
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807#issuecomment-320149243


This is what i just copied off it and there looks to be a reg patch but
think it is for windows 7 or 8.


8. On Windows 10 (both 32 and 64 bit), also enter the following command:
c:\windows\system32\regsvr32
c:\windows\system32\OneCoreCommonProxyStub.dll
9. On Windows 10 64 bit, also enter the following command:
c:\windows\syswow64\regsvr32
c:\windows\syswow64\OneCoreCommonProxyStub.dll


Gene nz

On 21/08/2017 09:13, Tony Ballou wrote:
Hey Gene,


It has said unknown in Thunderbird yes indeed. I haven't played with
edge.  However, I am seeing many of those symptoms that you're talking
about in Firefox .


Tony


On 8/20/2017 5:05 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi tony


can you tell me if nvda is doing any of the following? In all browsers
is he saying unknown or will not speak the contents of the web page? did
the page fully load try the f5 key to do this or use the nvda key + f5
key and see if it plays nicely?

Does he work in microsoft edge and read out the contents?


Down on the running application area on the task bar does nvda speak any
of the programs there?


When you hit the applications key does nvda speak any of the menus as
you arrow down it?


If you are running mozilla thunder bird does it say unknown as you tab
into it or try to get to messages or the menus it would be the same for
mozilla fire fox.


Gene nz



On 21/08/2017 08:32, Tony Ballou wrote:
howdy mates

for some reason nVDA and firefox are having quite a time getting along
with each other now.  When web pages come up you get the announcement
that the page is up, however, nothing else works. Tabbing through the
page for links, browse mode keystrokes, everything appears to be shot.
Does anyone know what happened, and a fix for it if there is one?  Very
strange indeed.  using the latest versions of both windows 10 pro and
NVda.

Tony







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Re: Adobe Digital

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Mostly because calibre uses a *lot* of resources, and when I extract the epub files, I don't use any resources at all just clicking on them (well, on the first one), to load it into my browser, after that, the only thing I need to change is the last 1 or 2 digits in the address bar, and that's real simple.  I only change the names of the files to make it easier for me, it's actually not necessary.

And, besides, why should I convert html to html, it's a waste of time.  The epub books are already html format, and I see no reason to use a 3rd party program to simply make their names more convenient for myself, when I can do that myself.

On 8/29/2017 4:15 PM, Rob wrote:
Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...> wrote:
It's a lot easier for me to change a number in the address bar of my
browser to move through the pages/chapters than it is to hunt around on
some inaccessible interface, trying to find the previous and next links.
Um, why not just use Calibre (which is cross platform too, by the way) to convert .epub to .htmlz and read it that way. No skipping around in the address bar, with split000.html and split00001.html.



Re: NVDA SOUNDS

Sarah k Alawami
 

On Aug 29, 2017, at 2:29 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo <ochikodinaka@...> wrote:

how do I get vocialzer on my pc for free where do I go

On 8/29/17, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
can I get those nvda ad ons the one that you have?
On 8/29/2017 10:03 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I love the ONJ sound apck I have. It just rocks. Ther is another one
on the add ons page, but theeONJ one is not official, I don't think.

Take care
On Aug 28, 2017, at 7:27 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
<ochikodinaka@... <mailto:ochikodinaka@...>> wrote:

ooh! oo! Ooh! doo it! bild soundpackages ask Josfe Leee tell him u
want to binld soundpackages for NVDA email me thw Gist!
ochikodinaka@... <mailto:ochikodinaka@...>! is is my
email address

On 8/28/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...
<mailto:knitqueen2007@...>> wrote:
I don't mind the sounds myself. The Max voice in espeak is pretty
easy to
understand for me.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vanessa
Ochoa via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 4:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS



hi how many of you do not like the sounds in nvda i personally do
not like
the sounds and I would like to create sound packages to distribute
them to
users who like me do not like the sounds in nvda i like nvda but i
do not
like the sounds what do you all think about that i really want to help
people who like me are anoyd of the sounds that come with nvda




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Re: NVDA SOUNDS

Gene
 

please read my messages carefully.  I gave the link in the text of my message on its own line.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS

where is the page

On 8/29/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> Have you looked at the NVDA page about voices carefully?  The information is
> there.  I believe you have asked about other voices as well.  Again, have
> you checked the page?
> https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/ExtraVoices
> Go to the page, and search for vocalizer and repeat the search until you
> find what you are interested in.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 4:29 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS
>
>
> how do I get vocialzer on my pc for free where do I go
>
> On 8/29/17, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
>> can I get those nvda ad ons the one that you have?
>> On 8/29/2017 10:03 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
>>> I love the ONJ sound apck  I have. It just rocks. Ther is another one
>>> on the add ons page, but theeONJ one is not official, I don't think.
>>>
>>> Take care
>>>> On Aug 28, 2017, at 7:27 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
>>>> <ochikodinaka@... <mailto:ochikodinaka@...>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ooh! oo! Ooh! doo it! bild soundpackages ask Josfe Leee tell him u
>>>> want to binld soundpackages for NVDA email me thw Gist!
>>>> ochikodinaka@... <mailto:ochikodinaka@...>! is is my
>>>> email address
>>>>
>>>> On 8/28/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...
>>>> <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>> wrote:
>>>>> I don't mind the sounds myself. The Max voice in espeak is pretty
>>>>> easy to
>>>>> understand for me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>>> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vanessa
>>>>> Ochoa via Groups.Io
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 4:05 PM
>>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>>> Subject: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> hi how many of you do not like the sounds in nvda i personally do
>>>>> not like
>>>>> the sounds and I would like to create sound packages to distribute
>>>>> them to
>>>>> users who like me do not like the sounds in nvda i like nvda but i
>>>>> do not
>>>>> like the sounds what do you all think about that i really want to help
>>>>> people who like me are anoyd of the sounds that come with nvda
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> for if you persavear. you will conker never fear. try try try again
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> for if you persavear. you will conker never fear. try try try again
>
>
>
>


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Re: NVDA SOUNDS

mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo <ochikodinaka@...>
 

where is the page

On 8/29/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Have you looked at the NVDA page about voices carefully? The information is
there. I believe you have asked about other voices as well. Again, have
you checked the page?
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/ExtraVoices
Go to the page, and search for vocalizer and repeat the search until you
find what you are interested in.

Gene
----- Original Message -----


From: mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS


how do I get vocialzer on my pc for free where do I go

On 8/29/17, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
can I get those nvda ad ons the one that you have?
On 8/29/2017 10:03 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I love the ONJ sound apck I have. It just rocks. Ther is another one
on the add ons page, but theeONJ one is not official, I don't think.

Take care
On Aug 28, 2017, at 7:27 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
<ochikodinaka@... <mailto:ochikodinaka@...>> wrote:

ooh! oo! Ooh! doo it! bild soundpackages ask Josfe Leee tell him u
want to binld soundpackages for NVDA email me thw Gist!
ochikodinaka@... <mailto:ochikodinaka@...>! is is my
email address

On 8/28/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...
<mailto:knitqueen2007@...>> wrote:
I don't mind the sounds myself. The Max voice in espeak is pretty
easy to
understand for me.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vanessa
Ochoa via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 4:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS



hi how many of you do not like the sounds in nvda i personally do
not like
the sounds and I would like to create sound packages to distribute
them to
users who like me do not like the sounds in nvda i like nvda but i
do not
like the sounds what do you all think about that i really want to help
people who like me are anoyd of the sounds that come with nvda




--
for if you persavear. you will conker never fear. try try try again

--
for if you persavear. you will conker never fear. try try try again



--
for if you persavear. you will conker never fear. try try try again


Re: NVDA SOUNDS

Gene
 

Have you looked at the NVDA page about voices carefully?  The information is there.  I believe you have asked about other voices as well.  Again, have you checked the page? 
Go to the page, and search for vocalizer and repeat the search until you find what you are interested in. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS

how do I get vocialzer on my pc for free where do I go

On 8/29/17, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
> can I get those nvda ad ons the one that you have?
> On 8/29/2017 10:03 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
>> I love the ONJ sound apck  I have. It just rocks. Ther is another one
>> on the add ons page, but theeONJ one is not official, I don't think.
>>
>> Take care
>>> On Aug 28, 2017, at 7:27 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
>>> <ochikodinaka@... <mailto:ochikodinaka@...>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ooh! oo! Ooh! doo it! bild soundpackages ask Josfe Leee tell him u
>>> want to binld soundpackages for NVDA email me thw Gist!
>>> ochikodinaka@... <mailto:ochikodinaka@...>! is is my
>>> email address
>>>
>>> On 8/28/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...
>>> <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>> wrote:
>>>> I don't mind the sounds myself. The Max voice in espeak is pretty
>>>> easy to
>>>> understand for me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vanessa
>>>> Ochoa via Groups.Io
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 4:05 PM
>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> Subject: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> hi how many of you do not like the sounds in nvda i personally do
>>>> not like
>>>> the sounds and I would like to create sound packages to distribute
>>>> them to
>>>> users who like me do not like the sounds in nvda i like nvda but i
>>>> do not
>>>> like the sounds what do you all think about that i really want to help
>>>> people who like me are anoyd of the sounds that come with nvda
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> for if you persavear. you will conker never fear. try try try again
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


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trouble with microsoft Outlook 2016 message list and views

Dave Bahr <dcbahr1@...>
 

­Hi, I was wondering if anybody else had run into this problem. I am unable to read properly from one mailbox in Microsoft outlook 2016 to another mailbox. NVDA is not reading the message list properly. In my Gmail account, the view that is their works perfectly fine but it is not copying over to the other account which is also an IMAP account for my school. When I go into the views list for my school account, it says that there are no views listed. Furthermore, no matter which mailbox I'm in, it does not read the list of columns that I can move up or down so I can change what order things are in. I would use Thunderbird except I can't figure out how to copy my contacts from Outlook to Thunderbird because of a bug in Thunderbird and I can’t figure out how to map fields properly for 2000 or more contacts.

 

Sorry if this message is confusing. Basically, one account reads perfectly fine even though I can't move columns up and down. The other account doesn't read very well at all or, if I apply one of the other views like compact, single, or preview, moving the arrow keys around really does nothing. I can collapse the groups sort of in the school account, but I have to shift-tab and tab to get NVDA to read what message I’m on. That’s a pain.

 

Let me know if you need more clarification, it's hard to explain. Has anybody else run into this? Maybe it's a simple solution and I just don't know where to go.

Thanks, Dave


Re: NVDA SOUNDS

mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo <ochikodinaka@...>
 

how do I get vocialzer on my pc for free where do I go

On 8/29/17, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
can I get those nvda ad ons the one that you have?
On 8/29/2017 10:03 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I love the ONJ sound apck  I have. It just rocks. Ther is another one
on the add ons page, but theeONJ one is not official, I don't think.

Take care
On Aug 28, 2017, at 7:27 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
<ochikodinaka@... <mailto:ochikodinaka@...>> wrote:

ooh! oo! Ooh! doo it! bild soundpackages ask Josfe Leee tell him u
want to binld soundpackages for NVDA email me thw Gist!
ochikodinaka@... <mailto:ochikodinaka@...>! is is my
email address

On 8/28/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...
<mailto:knitqueen2007@...>> wrote:
I don't mind the sounds myself. The Max voice in espeak is pretty
easy to
understand for me.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vanessa
Ochoa via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 4:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS



hi how many of you do not like the sounds in nvda i personally do
not like
the sounds and I would like to create sound packages to distribute
them to
users who like me do not like the sounds in nvda i like nvda but i
do not
like the sounds what do you all think about that i really want to help
people who like me are anoyd of the sounds that come with nvda




--
for if you persavear. you will conker never fear. try try try again
--
for if you persavear. you will conker never fear. try try try again


Re: NVDA SOUNDS

 

can I get those nvda ad ons the one that you have?

On 8/29/2017 10:03 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I love the ONJ sound apck  I have. It just rocks. Ther is another one on the add ons page, but theeONJ one is not official, I don't think.

Take care
On Aug 28, 2017, at 7:27 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo <ochikodinaka@...> wrote:

ooh! oo! Ooh! doo it! bild soundpackages ask Josfe Leee tell him u
want to binld soundpackages for NVDA email me thw Gist!
ochikodinaka@...! is is my email address

On 8/28/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
I don't mind the sounds myself. The Max voice in espeak is pretty easy to
understand for me.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vanessa
Ochoa via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 4:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS



hi how many of you do not like the sounds in nvda i personally do not like
the sounds and I would like to create sound packages to distribute them to
users who like me do not like the sounds in nvda i like nvda but i do not
like the sounds what do you all think about that i really want to help
people who like me are anoyd of the sounds that come with nvda






-- 
for if you persavear. you will conker never fear. try try try again




Re: Adobe Digital

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

The zip file is simply a collection of all of the files in the epub format, (usually in multiple directories), one of those directories is the actual book content, and it's name varies depending on what epub creater was used to make the book, but it's usually relatively easy to find, (just look for the directory that has multiple xml/html files).  Simply enter that directory, and select any file you like, they're usually named with chapter numbers at the end of their name, though some of the names are a mile long for obscure reasons nobody but the epub creater knows, so wading through all that to get to the actual numbers at the end is sometimes a chore.  I have actually written both unix shell scripts, and windows batch files to rename these files to just their chapter numbers, because I don't need all the artifacts relating to creation, since I'm not actually using their prebuilt table of contents, so names don't need to match for me.

But in any case, after the files are named properly, it's simple enough to click on the 0000 or 0001 file, then to move to the next one, I just change the address in my browser, which is usually as simple as pressing control-l, pressing end, then backspace, then the new number, then press enter.  Very fast and simple.  Again, for folks who like their guis (I am not one of those people), you might want to stick to the epub reader you're using now, but I find having complete access to the book via web browser suits my purposes just fine.

On 8/29/2017 2:43 PM, James AUSTIN wrote:
Thanks Travis a font of knowledge as always. I share your sentiment re choice. I did not know taht the epub format was essentially a .zip file. I thought it ws a 'rapper' for the internal HTML/XML files, or is that the same thing?


On 29/08/2017 19:07, Travis Siegel wrote:
Several reasons.

First, it allows me to use my browser of choice, regardless of platform, which means it doesn't matter if I'm on windows, SX, linux, FreeBSD, or even dos, (admittedly, I don't use dos very often), so it's a truly crossplatform solution.

Second, I've never found an epub reader I liked.

It's a lot easier for me to change a number in the address bar of my browser to move through the pages/chapters than it is to hunt around on some inaccessible interface, trying to find the previous and next links.

Of course, this goes back to the whole I've never found an epub reader I like.  Most of the ones I've tried were completely inaccessible, and those that worked didn't work the way I thought they should.  I actually wrote my own epub reader (based on a slimmed down version of a web browser on OSX), but that code doesn't translate to windows, linux BSD or other operating systems, so that solution remains only on OSX.

Now, my solution of using a browser doesn't work with encrypted epub format, and for those you'll have to use some dedicated drm capable epub reader.  I tend to avoid drm whenever possible, and if drm is absolutely 100 percent unavoidable, I generally choose kindle format, since the kindle reader on the iphone is completely accessible and usable.  Failing that, I opt for pdf, because it's possible to solve that problem easier than other formats.  But, mainly the reason I read epub books with my browser is because it's the fastest and simplest method for me, and it's cross platform, which is important to me.  As I said, your mileage may vary.  Most folks don't care about whether their epub reader works on multiple platforms, and even more folks aren't even aware it's possible to read epub books with anything except 1 or 2 programs, and personally, I'm all about choice.  I think the more options someone has to accomplish something, the better off said person is.  So, by letting folks know that epub is (generally) just html files that work just fine in your browser, I offer another solution for folks to read epub formats for themselves if something happens and their current method stops working.



On 8/29/2017 1:36 PM, James AUSTIN wrote:
Please forgive my question. An interesting approach, but why?


On 29/08/2017 02:21, Travis Siegel wrote:
I don't use anything for epub ebooks except my web browser.  An epub file is just a zip file that has all the content of the book compressed into a single file. Simply unzip it, then find the directory with the book files in it(they'll be either html or xml files), then just open each one with your browser.  It's not as nice as an epub reader, because it lacks the previous and next chapter/page links an epub reader will have, but it works for me, and is actually my preferred method for reading epub books.  Your mileage may vary.



On 8/28/2017 12:20 PM, MAYANK SHARMA wrote:
Hi all,

I'm reading an epub file using adobe digital 4.5. It's more or less
accessible but a problem I'm currently facing is to do with selecting
text in the book. My purpose is to highlight the text so I can get
back to it later for a reference. Is there a better way to do so?
Right now I'm not able to select the text so I can highlight, or
perhaps add notes which I haven't yet tried.

I've been reading Epub files on and off using this program, and have
just gone through the help file.

Hope someone figures out what I'm doing wrong.

Thanks.

Cheers,
  Mayank















Re: Adobe Digital

Rob
 

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...> wrote:
It's a lot easier for me to change a number in the address bar of my
browser to move through the pages/chapters than it is to hunt around on
some inaccessible interface, trying to find the previous and next links.

Um, why not just use Calibre (which is cross platform too, by the way) to convert .epub to .htmlz and read it that way. No skipping around in the address bar, with split000.html and split00001.html.