I retried the update with the same result and installation failed.

The update downloaded fine and then stated that my existing copy would

be updated and asked me to click OK which I did.  After that I keep

getting a message saying "please wait-your existing copy of NVDA is

being updated" and this goes on repeating with simultaneous beeps

indefinitely untill finally it says that the update installation

failed.  How do I get over this problem?  Should I remove the existing

copy of NVDA and install a fresh copy from scratch?

Alternatively, is it possible to make a portable copy from my other

laptop which has a proper working version and try to reinstall from

that?  In that case if it is possible, then I would be spared from

reconfiguring NVDA all over again to suit my needs.

Thanks,

Akbar

On 8/29/17, Akbar S. Currim <raahzam@...> wrote:

> I got no such notification on either of the laptops.  Anyway I will

> try your suggestion tomorrow as I am travelling now.  Will get back to

> you after that with the result.

> 

> Thanks,

> 

> Akbar

> 

> On 8/29/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

>> When you go to install a program, Windows pops up a dialog advising that

>> you are about to change the system and you need to accept that before you

>> can install the program.  Sometimes this dialog appears behind other

>> windows.  In that case, you may need to alt+tab to it if it doesn't seem

>> to

>> appear.

>> 

>> That is usually the reason for this kind of problem.

>> 

>> Regards

>> 

>> Quentin.

>> 

>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 5:09 PM, Akbar S. Currim <raahzam@...>

>> wrote:

>> 

>>> Hi,

>>> 

>>> I tried to install NVDA17.3 on my HP laptop and although I could

>>> download the new version without any difficulty and also after

>>> clicking to install it when I got the message to do so the configuring

>>> progress went on and on for at least 20 minutes and after that I got

>>> an error message saying that the installation failed.  I tried the

>>> same thing three times with the same result.  Could someone please

>>> enlighten me as to what is happening and how I could remedy the same.

>>> 

>>> Incidentally I had no problem updating NVDA on my second laptop which

>>> is an Asus.  Both laptops are running Win 10 duly updated to the

>>> latest version.  On the second laptop the installation took only a few

>>> minutes and there was no problem at all.

>>> 

>>> I give below the log I received for the installation failure.  Any

>>> help would be greatly appreciated.

>>> 

>>> Thanks and regards,

>>> 

>>> Akbar

>>> 

>>> Log for failure:

>>> INFO - __main__ (10:41:42.874):

>>> Starting NVDA

>>> INFO - core.main (10:41:43.140):

>>> Config dir: C:\Users\Akbar\AppData\Roaming\nvda

>>> INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (10:41:43.140):

>>> Loading config: C:\Users\Akbar\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

>>> INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154):

>>> NVDA version 2017.3

>>> INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154):

>>> Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation

>>> INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154):

>>> Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016,

>>> 20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

>>> INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154):

>>> Using comtypes version 0.6.2

>>> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (10:41:43.940):

>>> Loaded synthDriver eloquence

>>> INFO - core.main (10:41:43.940):

>>> Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

>>> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (10:41:43.940):

>>> Braille input initialized

>>> INFO - braille.initialize (10:41:43.940):

>>> Using liblouis version 3.2.0

>>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (10:41:43.940):

>>> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

>>> WARNING - core.main (10:41:43.994):

>>> Java Access Bridge not available

>>> INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (10:41:43.994):

>>> UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

>>> INFO - core.main (10:41:45.861):

>>> NVDA initialized

>>> ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (11:26:41.197):

>>> Failed to execute installer

>>> Traceback (most recent call last):

>>>   File "gui\installerGui.pyo", line 32, in doInstall

>>>   File "config\__init__.pyo", line 182, in execElevated

>>>   File "shellapi.pyo", line 42, in ShellExecuteEx

>>> WindowsError: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.

>>> ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (11:26:41.198):

>>> Installation failed: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the

>>> user.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> --

>> Quentin Christensen

>> Training and Support Manager

>> 

>> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:

>> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

>> 

>> Ph +61 7 3149 3306

>> www.nvaccess.org

>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess

>> Twitter: @NVAccess

>> 

> 

>

> 

> 

Hi there: How can you find out if you have service pack one in your windows
7 box? I think I may have it. but would like to know where you would have
it? Thanks and have a good day!



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Lee
Sent: August-30-17 9:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Important announcement: NVDA 2017.3 is the last version to
support Windows versions prior to 7 and Server 2008 R2 service pack 1



Dear NVDA community:



If you are using one of the following Windows versions, please read the
following statement from NV Access (just published):



* Windows XP
* Windows Server 2003
* Windows Vista
* Windows Server 2008
* Windows 7 without service pack 1



The announcement link:

https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2017-4-drops-support-for-older-operating-
systems/



Background: for a number of years, NV Access and other developers received
tons of reports about browse mode not being available when you restart NVDA
while using Firefox and some browsers. NV Access wrote a fix for it, but it
used a routine not found in older operating systems (specifically, Windows
XP). Porting the new routine is costly, especially when developers cannot
guarantee that it'll work for everyone. Because the fix impacts many
people,
coupled with the support status of the Windows versions listed above,
coupled with the fact that Firefox and some popular programs ended support
for old Windows releases (including some screen readers), NV Access has
decided to end support for old Windows releases with NVDA 2017.3. 2017.3
will still be made available for download for people who need to use old
Windows versions.



Thus, the following advisory from the community is in effect:



* If you are using Windows versions listed above, turn off automatic
NVDA updates (NVDA menu/Preferences/General, then uncheck the update
checkbox).
* For those using some add-ons, read follow-up advisories regarding
support for old Windows releases from add-ons from add-on writers (for
those
using add-ons such as Resource Monitor, I will publish an advisory next
week).



Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph

I got no such notification on either of the laptops. Anyway I will
try your suggestion tomorrow as I am travelling now. Will get back to
you after that with the result.

Thanks,

Akbar

On 8/29/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

When you go to install a program, Windows pops up a dialog advising that
you are about to change the system and you need to accept that before you
can install the program. Sometimes this dialog appears behind other
windows. In that case, you may need to alt+tab to it if it doesn't seem
to
appear.

That is usually the reason for this kind of problem.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 5:09 PM, Akbar S. Currim <raahzam@...>
wrote:

Hi,

I tried to install NVDA17.3 on my HP laptop and although I could
download the new version without any difficulty and also after
clicking to install it when I got the message to do so the configuring
progress went on and on for at least 20 minutes and after that I got
an error message saying that the installation failed. I tried the
same thing three times with the same result. Could someone please
enlighten me as to what is happening and how I could remedy the same.

Incidentally I had no problem updating NVDA on my second laptop which
is an Asus. Both laptops are running Win 10 duly updated to the
latest version. On the second laptop the installation took only a few
minutes and there was no problem at all.

I give below the log I received for the installation failure. Any
help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and regards,

Akbar

Log for failure:
INFO - __main__ (10:41:42.874):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.140):
Config dir: C:\Users\Akbar\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (10:41:43.140):
Loading config: C:\Users\Akbar\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154):
NVDA version 2017.3
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154):
Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154):
Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016,
20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154):
Using comtypes version 0.6.2
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (10:41:43.940):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.940):
Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (10:41:43.940):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (10:41:43.940):
Using liblouis version 3.2.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (10:41:43.940):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (10:41:43.994):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (10:41:43.994):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3
INFO - core.main (10:41:45.861):
NVDA initialized
ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (11:26:41.197):
Failed to execute installer
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "gui\installerGui.pyo", line 32, in doInstall
File "config\__init__.pyo", line 182, in execElevated
File "shellapi.pyo", line 42, in ShellExecuteEx
WindowsError: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.
ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (11:26:41.198):
Installation failed: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the
user.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

Dear NVDA community:

If you are using one of the following Windows versions, please read the following statement from NV Access (just published):

• Windows XP
• Windows Server 2003
• Windows Vista
• Windows Server 2008
• Windows 7 without service pack 1

The announcement link:

https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2017-4-drops-support-for-older-operating-systems/

Background: for a number of years, NV Access and other developers received tons of reports about browse mode not being available when you restart NVDA while using Firefox and some browsers. NV Access wrote a fix for it, but it used a routine not found in older operating systems (specifically, Windows XP). Porting the new routine is costly, especially when developers cannot guarantee that it’ll work for everyone. Because the fix impacts many people, coupled with the support status of the Windows versions listed above, coupled with the fact that Firefox and some popular programs ended support for old Windows releases (including some screen readers), NV Access has decided to end support for old Windows releases with NVDA 2017.3. 2017.3 will still be made available for download for people who need to use old Windows versions.

Thus, the following advisory from the community is in effect:

• If you are using Windows versions listed above, turn off automatic NVDA updates (NVDA menu/Preferences/General, then uncheck the update checkbox).
• For those using some add-ons, read follow-up advisories regarding support for old Windows releases from add-ons from add-on writers (for those using add-ons such as Resource Monitor, I will publish an advisory next week).

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph

I read a couple of threads on here about issues with Firefox and I
wonder if anybody has any idea what might be going on with my NVDA /
Firefox situation.

My Firefox updated to 55.0.3 (32-bit) yesterday, and I updated to NVDA
17.3 earlier this week. The problem began occuring prior to this,
maybe two months ago, however, so it's not directly caused by either upgrade.

I use gmail in its basic view setting, and most of the time it works
perfectly. But occasionaly it's started, when I hit enter to open a
message, it throws me out into a tab about 8 tabs further away. The
tab it moves me to is for a Masters degree program that I want to
apply for next year, so I can't figure out any connection between my
gmail tab and that one! The tab in question is
http://www.swansea.ac.uk/postgraduate/taught/applyingforamastersdegree
/ (
http://www.swansea.ac.uk/postgraduate/taught/applyingforamastersdegree
/ )

It is always that tab, and it doesn't matter if I've opened other tabs
between gmail and that tab, like tonight I've got an additional two
Blind Mice Mega Mall tabs open ... it's always dropping me into the
Masters info tab.

I also can't figure out why it's only occasional emails that do this.
Most open fine when I hit enter, and I stay on the email page, from
where I press the number 2 a couple of times to navigate down to the
message Heading 2, but the times it throws me out of the tab there
aren't any level 2 headings on that page!

Would love any suggestions if anybody has experienced anything
similar. I do currently have 36 tabs open in Firefox,if that has any
bearing on the matter.

Thanks,

Giles

----- Original Message -----

From: Kwork

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 10:56 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Where are these files?

Ah, Found them. They're inside the folder called waves, inside the NVDA folder in program files.

For 64 bit operating systems:

C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\waves

For 32-bit operating systems:

C:\Program Files\NVDA\waves

There are 8 wav files inside, so nothing is hidden inside of another container.

Travis

----- Original Message -----

From: Christopher-Mark Gilland

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 1:47 PM

Subject: [nvda] Where are these files?

This perhaps may be a stupid question, and no, I am not thinking of modifying them in any way, but more am just curious as a FYI purpose.

 

Where are the wave files used by NVDA for the things like the ascending tone when you start NVDA, and the descending tone when you quit NVDA, and such?

 

Chris.

----- Original Message -----

From: Sarah k Alawami

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 7:24 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda suggestion

I agree, and a way to fill out forms should those be an image as well, and a way to sign with your finger on the track pad as most of the stuff I deal with you must.

Anything out there that will do this on windows?

On Aug 30, 2017, at 11:01 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:

This sounds to me like you need a new app that can do this, as in Reader, you tend to get only one page at a time or since if its a picture pdf you cannot know how much you have visible.

It really needs to be a program that can display it virtually and run ocr on that.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 5:38 PM
Subject: [nvda] nvda suggestion

I have a suggestion for NVDA OCR. I would like to be able to go into
this pc or the file explorer, point to a pdf, or image file, hit
applications key and arrow to recognise with NVDA, hit enter, and then
NVDA will OCR the file itself and present the result in the browse mode
buffer. This would make reading inaccessible pdf files easier.


thanks


Josh


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----- Original Message -----

From: Giles Turnbull

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 9:40 PM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA or Firefox issue

I read a couple of threads on here about issues with Firefox and I wonder if anybody has any idea what might be going on with my NVDA / Firefox situation.

My Firefox updated to 55.0.3 (32-bit) yesterday, and I updated to NVDA 17.3 earlier this week. The problem began occuring prior to this, maybe two months ago, however, so it's not directly caused by either upgrade.

I use gmail in its basic view setting, and most of the time it works perfectly. But occasionaly it's started, when I hit enter to open a message, it throws me out into a tab about 8 tabs further away. The tab it moves me to is for a Masters degree program that I want to apply for next year, so I can't figure out any connection between my gmail tab and that one! The tab in question is http://www.swansea.ac.uk/postgraduate/taught/applyingforamastersdegree/

It is always that tab, and it doesn't matter if I've opened other tabs between gmail and that tab, like tonight I've got an additional two Blind Mice Mega Mall tabs open ... it's always dropping me into the Masters info tab.

I also can't figure out why it's only occasional emails that do this. Most open fine when I hit enter, and I stay on the email page, from where I press the number 2 a couple of times to navigate down to the message Heading 2, but the times it throws me out of the tab there aren't any level 2 headings on that page!

Would love any suggestions if anybody has experienced anything similar. I do currently have 36 tabs open in Firefox,if that has any bearing on the matter.

Thanks,

Giles

I read a couple of threads on here about issues with Firefox and I wonder if
anybody has any idea what might be going on with my NVDA / Firefox
situation.

My Firefox updated to 55.0.3 (32-bit) yesterday, and I updated to NVDA 17.3
earlier this week. The problem began occuring prior to this, maybe two
months ago, however, so it's not directly caused by either upgrade.

I use gmail in its basic view setting, and most of the time it works
perfectly. But occasionaly it's started, when I hit enter to open a message,
it throws me out into a tab about 8 tabs further away. The tab it moves me
to is for a Masters degree program that I want to apply for next year, so I
can't figure out any connection between my gmail tab and that one! The tab
in question is
http://www.swansea.ac.uk/postgraduate/taught/applyingforamastersdegree/ (
http://www.swansea.ac.uk/postgraduate/taught/applyingforamastersdegree/ )

It is always that tab, and it doesn't matter if I've opened other tabs
between gmail and that tab, like tonight I've got an additional two Blind
Mice Mega Mall tabs open ... it's always dropping me into the Masters info
tab.

I also can't figure out why it's only occasional emails that do this. Most
open fine when I hit enter, and I stay on the email page, from where I press
the number 2 a couple of times to navigate down to the message Heading 2,
but the times it throws me out of the tab there aren't any level 2 headings
on that page!

Would love any suggestions if anybody has experienced anything similar. I do
currently have 36 tabs open in Firefox,if that has any bearing on the
matter.

Thanks,

Giles

Don't get them from that site.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mr.
Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 1:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS

how much are the voices are there free or blindhelp.net or I get a discount

On 8/30/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists@...> wrote:

I don't know anything about this site. the problem often is that the
uninitiated are probably not aware what is and what is not an
infringement of copyright etc.
Some, in poorer countries may indeed not particularly care, and I'd
not want

to slam them in gaol for that particularly. I'll just say be careful
and watch out for malware and do not ask questions here about anything
that is definitely illegal, as NVDA moderators will probably ban you
if you do it a

lot as they HAVE to keep the list clean and their reputation good or
nobody

will donate money for developments for NVDA.
Just saying.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS


You shouldn't be downloading something that's illegal.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mr.
Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 8:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS

don't I get vocalizer for free thru www.blindhelp.net

On 8/29/17, Scott VanDeWalle <scottvandewalle2@...> wrote:

Going to go there and try to find this ad-on since I’d be interested
in possible new nvda sounds, just for a change of pace.. smile.

Scott

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From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 4:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS

I use Quincy, but then I would since I made it in the first place.
On sounds, did I nott see an add on that allowed other sounds on the
ad on

site. I believe eventually the idea is to make this type of option
part of

nvda. At the moment its awkward as on a standard install, the update
overwrites th sound files in nvda. but there is noting stopping you
form fiddling with them on the current install. they are in a folder
called waves

in the main nvda folder in program fiiles (x86) Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS


I don't mind the sounds myself. The Max voice in espeak is pretty
easy to understand for me.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Vanessa

Ochoa via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 4:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS



hi how many of you do not like the sounds in nvda i personally do not
like the sounds and I would like to create sound packages to
distribute them to users who like me do not like the sounds in nvda i
like nvda but i do not like the sounds what do you all think about
that i really want to help people who like me are anoyd of the sounds
that come with nvda

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----- Original Message -----

From: Kwork

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 5:56 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Where are these files?

Ah, Found them. They're inside the folder called waves, inside the NVDA folder in program files.

For 64 bit operating systems:

C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\waves

For 32-bit operating systems:

C:\Program Files\NVDA\waves

There are 8 wav files inside, so nothing is hidden inside of another container.

Travis

----- Original Message -----

From: Christopher-Mark Gilland

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 1:47 PM

Subject: [nvda] Where are these files?

This perhaps may be a stupid question, and no, I am not thinking of modifying them in any way, but more am just curious as a FYI purpose.

 

Where are the wave files used by NVDA for the things like the ascending tone when you start NVDA, and the descending tone when you quit NVDA, and such?

 

Chris.

1. Robocopy - command line utility that's been around forever and allows all sorts of copying 
2. Robocopy GUI - the RoboCopy command has been put into a GUI wrapper
3. RichCopy, see this article:  https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/2009.04.utilityspotlight  sort of a "RoboCopy GUI on steroids"

     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

            ~ Niels Bohr