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The deliniator thingy

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

In other words where the message in this list ends, and the added content starts is.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Which says equals a lot as its equals then a dash etc.
In my view this needs to be changed to a line of one or the other, as its getting already very irritating.
Can this be done?
do others get this?
Brian

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Re: Firefox lags on FB

Supanut Leepaisomboon
 

I think someone should report this issue to Facebook, so they can fix it. Facebook has become part of our lives, and I think Facebook really needs to take into account accessibility for visually-impaired users.
Re: Firefox lags on FB

Dejan Ristic
 

Yes, I have experienced it too, from time to time, especially when I'm in the message typing field. It's come to us recently. As I have said, it does not happen any time when I'm in the same field. It sometimes goes smoothly, and it sometimes does slow down.

NVDA version I've been using: 2016.1

Windows version I've been using: Windows version: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (64-bit)


On 3/5/2016 10:50 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

Hi all,

Does anyone here experienced lags when using Facebook with Firefox along with a screen reader (Jaws or NVDA)? I've been using Firefox for a long time and I've experienced lags with Facebook from time-to-time and it's really annoying, especially on my Surface 3. On my desktop I'm using Jaws, and on my Surface 3 I'm using NVDA, latest version.
Re: test message

Dejan Ristic
 

I've got your message.

On 3/4/2016 11:53 PM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

This is a test message to see if this gets to the list.

Thanks.
Dave.


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Re: Firefox lags on FB

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I only use m.facebook.com. much easier.

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On 3/5/2016 5:03 AM, Aravind R wrote:
and we are unable to locate log out button or sign out unless i use
m.facebook.com

On 3/5/16, Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi all,

Does anyone here experienced lags when using Facebook with Firefox along
with a screen reader (Jaws or NVDA)? I've been using Firefox for a long time
and I've experienced lags with Facebook from time-to-time and it's really
annoying, especially on my Surface 3. On my desktop I'm using Jaws, and on
my Surface 3 I'm using NVDA, latest version.
Re: question regarding seamonkey

Vincent Thacker <vince@...>
 

Marv, Windows 10 might not be a requirement, but from the little experience I've had, Seamonkey works fine under Windows 10. Only one way to be sure; try it. You're quite right in saying Win 10 isn't listed in the documentation, but the browser is supposed to be equivalent to the current Firefox.

Vince in England.





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Message Received: Mar 05 2016, 06:17 AM
From: "marvin kotler"
To: nvda@groups.io
Cc:
Subject: [nvda] question regarding seamonkey

Good evening list; Marv here.  I went to the seamonkey site and windows 10 was not in the operating systems system requirements.  My question is is anyone running seamonkey successfully on windows 10?

 
Re: Firefox lags on FB

Supanut Leepaisomboon
 

Also the edit fields where I can type texts are not being read properly, either by Jaws or NVDA. It seems that Facebook has become less accessible nowadays, even though it have over 1 billion users.
Re: Firefox lags on FB

Aravind R
 

and we are unable to locate log out button or sign out unless i use
m.facebook.com

On 3/5/16, Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi all,

Does anyone here experienced lags when using Facebook with Firefox along
with a screen reader (Jaws or NVDA)? I've been using Firefox for a long time
and I've experienced lags with Facebook from time-to-time and it's really
annoying, especially on my Surface 3. On my desktop I'm using Jaws, and on
my Surface 3 I'm using NVDA, latest version.
--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda retail loan factory, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613.
email id : aravind_069@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com.
Firefox lags on FB

Supanut Leepaisomboon
 

Hi all,

Does anyone here experienced lags when using Facebook with Firefox along with a screen reader (Jaws or NVDA)? I've been using Firefox for a long time and I've experienced lags with Facebook from time-to-time and it's really annoying, especially on my Surface 3. On my desktop I'm using Jaws, and on my Surface 3 I'm using NVDA, latest version.
Paftitioning Program

Andrea Sherry
 

Using windows10 64bit.
The disk management is not doing what I require
I have a program called PAssist Pro but it does not like NVDA thought it used to work with WE.
Any suggestions?
Andrea
--
Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending." - Carl Brad
Re: nvda and libreoffice

Aravind R
 

using calc is difficult using any screen reader.
in our bank, head office has ms excel but branches send files prepared
by open office calc which we are unable to view.
kindly explain how to view the information and make changes

On 3/5/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Christo,

I find that open office works a little better than libre office. The
read-to-end function doesn't work in that either but I can deal with that.

Rosemarie



On 3/4/2016 11:04 PM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
Well, it works well upto a point, I would say. Quite a major drawback
is that you don't get formatting information with NVDA when you press
NVDA+f. I hope this is something that can be addressed soon. Another
drawback is that the read to end function does not work; it only reads
a paragraph at a time. Another small irritation is that, when you use
auto-numbering and arrow up and down your text, the number of each
numbered element is read twice.

So, while it is generally accessible, there certainly are usage issues
with it. I really wish the NVDA developers would pay more attention to
accessibility of LibreOffice, as it is also a free package and much
less clunky to use than the MS counterpart.

Kind regards

Christo




On 2016/03/04 8:56 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:
Yes it is And it works well.
Kenny Peyatt jr.

-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Kennedy [mailto:joshknnd1982@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 12:30 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda and libreoffice

hi
is libreoffice or openoffice or both now accessible with NVDA without
the java access bridge? if so which one and which version?





--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda retail loan factory, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613.
email id : aravind_069@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com.
Re: I am afraid he will have a tummy ache

Joseph Lee
 

Hi,
Jamie Teh said something on Twitter that basically says that statement. I
may eventually need to talk about social media and NVDA later during that
event... Right now though, I'm in the midst of a semester at a community
college, seeing the news coming from NVDACon speaker recruitment efforts,
finalizing StationPlaylist add-on 7.0 beta, thinking about writing a letter
to mainstream programmers about value of NVDA and others (along with making
sure my latest code for add-ons manager gets integrated into NVDA Core).
Cheers,
Joseph
P.S. Yes, I do code (NVDA screen reader), and latest endeavor can be found
at http://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3090.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Shook [mailto:chris0309@samobile.net]
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 11:02 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am afraid he will have a tummy ache

Joseph,
It may be too late, but would there be any way to make a statement to the
effect that NVDA does not agree with comments said on Social Media?
Just a suggestion.
Chris
Re: I am afraid he will have a tummy ache

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Joseph,
It may be too late, but would there be any way to make a statement to the effect that NVDA does not agree with comments said on Social Media?
Just a suggestion.
Chris
Re: nvda and libreoffice

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Christo,

I find that open office works a little better than libre office. The read-to-end function doesn't work in that either but I can deal with that.

Rosemarie

On 3/4/2016 11:04 PM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
Well, it works well upto a point, I would say. Quite a major drawback is that you don't get formatting information with NVDA when you press NVDA+f. I hope this is something that can be addressed soon. Another drawback is that the read to end function does not work; it only reads a paragraph at a time. Another small irritation is that, when you use auto-numbering and arrow up and down your text, the number of each numbered element is read twice.

So, while it is generally accessible, there certainly are usage issues with it. I really wish the NVDA developers would pay more attention to accessibility of LibreOffice, as it is also a free package and much less clunky to use than the MS counterpart.

Kind regards

Christo




On 2016/03/04 8:56 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:
Yes it is And it works well.
Kenny Peyatt jr.

-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Kennedy [mailto:joshknnd1982@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 12:30 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda and libreoffice

hi
is libreoffice or openoffice or both now accessible with NVDA without
the java access bridge? if so which one and which version?
Re: nvda and libreoffice

Christo de Klerk
 

Well, it works well upto a point, I would say. Quite a major drawback is that you don't get formatting information with NVDA when you press NVDA+f. I hope this is something that can be addressed soon. Another drawback is that the read to end function does not work; it only reads a paragraph at a time. Another small irritation is that, when you use auto-numbering and arrow up and down your text, the number of each numbered element is read twice.

So, while it is generally accessible, there certainly are usage issues with it. I really wish the NVDA developers would pay more attention to accessibility of LibreOffice, as it is also a free package and much less clunky to use than the MS counterpart.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2016/03/04 8:56 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:
Yes it is And it works well.
Kenny Peyatt jr.

-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Kennedy [mailto:joshknnd1982@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 12:30 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda and libreoffice

hi
is libreoffice or openoffice or both now accessible with NVDA without
the java access bridge? if so which one and which version?
Re: I am afraid he will have a tummy ache

Joseph Lee
 

Hi Chris and others,
I'm more concerned about our reputation now that we're in the midst of
celebrating NVDA's tenth anniversary (and I'm the chair of a planning
committee for various events, chiefly NVDACon 2016). I hope our reputation
wasn't damaged a lot because of what some people have done (on social
media). As far as the surrounding matter (Dictation Bridge and resulting
debate), I'll briefly mention it on March 14th event.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Shook [mailto:chris0309@samobile.net]
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 10:35 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am afraid he will have a tummy ache

Marve:
Thanks for the help.
I've learned a valuable lesson today.
I may prefer NVDA, but JAWS still has it's good points.
Joseph, in regards to your letter of apology, I hope NVDA's reputation
hasn't been permanently damaged.
This is truly a great program and I would hate to see it disappear. If
there's anything I can do to help, don't hesitate to ask.
Chris
Re: I am afraid he will have a tummy ache

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Marve:
Thanks for the help.
I've learned a valuable lesson today.
I may prefer NVDA, but JAWS still has it's good points.
Joseph, in regards to your letter of apology, I hope NVDA's reputation hasn't been permanently damaged.
This is truly a great program and I would hate to see it disappear. If there's anything I can do to help, don't hesitate to ask.
Chris
Re: I am afraid he will have a tummy ache

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Maybe he needs to stop eating so much_lol.



On 3/4/2016 8:32 PM, marvin kotler wrote:
Marv here.  I am afraid he will have a stomach ache until the next update; lol.
From: Arlene
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Will feed him anyway
 

Loll! Here he comes waiting for another bite!

 

From: marvin kotler [mailto:m.kotler53@...]
Sent: March-04-16 8:02 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Re: Will feed him anyway

 

I got him to read, but I think I will feed him to the shark at least 17 times.

From: Arlene

Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 7:46 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda still will not read

 

Loll! Feed him to the shark!

 

From: marvin kotler [mailto:m.kotler53@...]
Sent: March-04-16 5:39 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda still will not read

 

This is Marv here again.  I am using laptop layout just like in jaws.  When I use insert plus downarrow, nvda just reads a little bit; a line or so.  Any other tricks I can try; should I feed him LOL.

 

 
Re: Seamonkey?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Arleen,

Yes, thunderbird is easy to use compared to outlook. It has the old-style menues like outlook express had.

Rosemarie



On 3/4/2016 10:17 PM, Arlene wrote:

Hi, is thunderbird easy to use? I heard it was.

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@...]
Sent: March-04-16 10:12 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Seamonkey?

 

Hi, Gene,

That's a great tutorial. It really helped me when I was learning to use thunderbird.

Rosemarie


On 3/4/2016 10:09 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi

it might of been the way you have it setup or the view. I use it on my windows 10 machine and have no problems with it.

A while ago I did a audio and also a written tutorial on mozilla thunderbird if you are interested. it can be fund at the following web address at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
It is called accessible email client mozilla thunderbird. It at least covered the basics of using it.

Gene nz

On 05-Mar-16 6:54 PM, marvin kotler wrote:

This is Marv here.  I never heard of seamonkey, but tried thunderbird and found it quite difficult to use.  So, I went to windows live mail.  I am running windows 10 jaws/nvda.  I had poor luck with thunderbird and both screen readers.  Is seamonkey more accessible than thunderbird?

 

 

 
Re: Seamonkey?

Arlene
 

Hi, is thunderbird easy to use? I heard it was.

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@...]
Sent: March-04-16 10:12 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Seamonkey?

 

Hi, Gene,

That's a great tutorial. It really helped me when I was learning to use thunderbird.

Rosemarie


On 3/4/2016 10:09 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi

it might of been the way you have it setup or the view. I use it on my windows 10 machine and have no problems with it.

A while ago I did a audio and also a written tutorial on mozilla thunderbird if you are interested. it can be fund at the following web address at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
It is called accessible email client mozilla thunderbird. It at least covered the basics of using it.

Gene nz

On 05-Mar-16 6:54 PM, marvin kotler wrote:

This is Marv here.  I never heard of seamonkey, but tried thunderbird and found it quite difficult to use.  So, I went to windows live mail.  I am running windows 10 jaws/nvda.  I had poor luck with thunderbird and both screen readers.  Is seamonkey more accessible than thunderbird?

 

 

 
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