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Re: A web site funny

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I know that, but what I'd like to be able to do is set the us and uk voices the same so I can leave language switching on.
 I think the only way to do this is to set it up as English us in espeak change to quincy, and then change it back to uk and then both should sound the same. Of course switching that option off will work, but I think its defaulted on.
 Is this just a strange web site?
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: Chris
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2017 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A web site funny

I think this Is due to automatic language switching being enabled

In nvda voice settings

 

 

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Sent: 02 September 2017 20:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A web site funny

 

Hi when I access this web site some of the text is spoken in one espeak

voice, in my case Quincy, and some in another voice. Indeed I did look at

the log and it can be seen not to change the voice as such, but the

language, however it is still in English. is this the web site, me or am I

finally going mad?

 

http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/en/index.html

 

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Re: A web site funny

Chris
 

I think this Is due to automatic language switching being enabled

In nvda voice settings

 

 

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Subject: [nvda] A web site funny

 

Hi when I access this web site some of the text is spoken in one espeak

voice, in my case Quincy, and some in another voice. Indeed I did look at

the log and it can be seen not to change the voice as such, but the

language, however it is still in English. is this the web site, me or am I

finally going mad?

 

http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/en/index.html

 

Brian

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Re: A web site funny

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Only tried in Firefox thus far.
Brian

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Subject: [nvda] A web site funny


Hi when I access this web site some of the text is spoken in one espeak voice, in my case Quincy, and some in another voice. Indeed I did look at the log and it can be seen not to change the voice as such, but the language, however it is still in English. is this the web site, me or am I finally going mad?

http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/en/index.html

Brian
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Re: To the person who sent a message to NVDA and may not see it

Sarah k Alawami
 

Hello. You can go to groups.io and modirate the messages from there. I do this often as I can just look and approve in bulk

Take care and hope that helps a bit.

On Sep 2, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I inadvertently deleted a notification of a message that needs approval to be sent to the NVDA list this morning.  It is the main list, not a subgroup.  If anyone sent their first message after joining the list and doesn't see it, please send it again. 
 
Sorry about the error.
 
Gene


A web site funny

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Hi when I access this web site some of the text is spoken in one espeak voice, in my case Quincy, and some in another voice. Indeed I did look at the log and it can be seen not to change the voice as such, but the language, however it is still in English. is this the web site, me or am I finally going mad?

http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/en/index.html

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Re: OCR >In Arabic

George Zaynoun
 

I can confirm that changing Windows interface language does not render the text to be readable, same results each line should be reversed.

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Re: ripping DVDs accessible with NVDA

Dmitriy <dlazarev86@...>
 

When I was into making DVD’s out of video files, I used DVDFlick for makingVideo_TS files and Nero Burning ROM for burning them onto DVD’s.

For ripping discs though, I tried not to mess around with those.

I guess, when you know what file contains the entire movie, just take that and convert it with something like AVS Video Converter or Free Video Converter.

The above programs are all accessible depending on the version number and clicking on the right option.

 

Dmitry

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2017 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ripping DVDs accessible with NVDA

 

I don't have the answer, but you need to consider whatever software you do happen to use that's accessible might throw you a curve ball. A lot of movies on DVD have DRM protections in place. If you own DVD's that have a digital copy by all means save that on your PC. Spank their butts if they distroy anything of yours. Your the gramps remember? LOL!

 

On 9/1/2017 12:24 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Hi,

 

I have been using FreemakeVC to rip our DVDs but it seems to be losing effectiveness as time goes.

 

Does anyone else know of an accessible way to do this using NVDA?  I am hoping for freeware tools being on a limited budget.

 

I want to  be able to rip DBDs to save them so grandchildren do not destroy the disks, extract movies/episodes so we can drop them on a jump drive to play on our TV that supports these.

 

Any ideas?

 

Dan Beaver

 


To the person who sent a message to NVDA and may not see it

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I inadvertently deleted a notification of a message that needs approval to be sent to the NVDA list this morning.  It is the main list, not a subgroup.  If anyone sent their first message after joining the list and doesn't see it, please send it again. 
 
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Re: ocr

Rui Fontes
 

After hearing the FSCast about Jaws 2018, I have to correct myself!

1 - The OCR engine used is OmniPage from Nuance;
2 - Jaws 2018 is also really a OCR app!
You can perform OCR to the screen, to a file, and even can accquire a image trhough FS cameras, and it seems also from scanners.

Rui




-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Rui Fontes
Data: 2 de setembro de 2017 15:37
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] ocr

What I wanted to say is that FS, now VFO, is placing some features of
another programs in all programs...
If you install Openbook without Jaws in the system, no problem since
Openbook have a stripped version of Jaws to walk you through the install and
execution of Openbook.

Now, they are placing more OCR power in Jaws OCR, allowing to use something
like a virtual printer to send the file content to Openbook, or Windows10,
OCR engine...

I think that VFO only will kill Openbook after buying Kurzweil...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Christopher-Mark Gilland
Data: 2 de setembro de 2017 02:39
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] ocr


I think what confused me was the comment that they're joining JAWS and
openbook.

I took that to mean that now, Openbook was a dependency of the JAWS OCR
feature. If that was the case, that would be incredibly asinine.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] ocr


If I understand it correctly Jaws is using the Windows 10 function and not
Open Book.




On 9/1/2017 8:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Ow'w'w, Gawod! Gr'roass! Don't tell me I have to have Openbook installed for
the OCR in JFW to work! I happen to, so woohoo me, but for those who don't,
that could really pose a major major problem!
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(980) 500-9575

----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] ocr

They are joining Jaws and Openbook...
That is a OCR application feature and not a screen reader feature.

To have that in NVDA we will need a virtual printer to send the resultant
image to the Windows 10 OCR engine, and hoping that the engine allows
multipage images...

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Don H
Data: 2 de setembro de 2017 01:16
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] ocr

With the OCR function in Jaws 2018 beta you find the file you want to
OCR in file explorer then open the context menu for the file and then
arrow down to recoginize with Jaws and hit enter. You then have a view
that you can read and or copy.


On 9/1/2017 7:12 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Can you explain the differences?
When I used Jaws, the difference was not much, as I remember...

Rui

-----Mensagem Original----- De: Don H
Data: 2 de setembro de 2017 01:03
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] ocr

Sorry to say that the OCR function in Jaws 2018 is much easier than the
OCR in NVDA. I say sorry because I like using NVDA much better than Jaws.










NVDA OCR function

Don H
 

Since NVDA is simply using the Windows 10 OCR function I would say the results I am having relates to ?Windows and not NVDA but here is what I have found.

I used my Epson Scanner to create 10 JPG images of very clearly typed documents.  All used the same font type and font size.

After scanning  and saving each document as a JPG file I then opened each one in the Windows Photo viewer used insert numpad 2 to get focus on the image and hit insert r to recognize the image.  Only 5 of the ten files created a useful readable result. If I closed the photo viewer and made a second attempt I may get good results but again this was very inconsistent.

one question I have is how to use the Win 10 OCR outside of NVDA, in other words how does a sighted person use this Win 10 OCR function.


Re: NVDA and Windows older versions

Lino Morales
 

Spying on you? You know you can privacy settings. Look into those before you say stuff like this. They only entity I worry spying on me is our shadow government here in the US, but that's off topic here.


On 9/1/2017 9:03 PM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
The only reason that I can think of of not upgrading to Windows 10 is if you really don't want Microsoft to spy on you. But for not upgrading to Windows 7? I can't think of any valid reasons...there are second hand Windows 7 computers available at local department stores at cheap prices. Even my desktop which I got in 2011 with 8GB of RAM and 3.3GHZ Intel Core I5 costs less than 30000 Thai baht (might be even less than 25000 Thai baht).
I still like XP though; it's the first OS that I remember using as a child. I have a Windows XP virtual machine set up so that I can play with it whenever I want, without damaging my actual computer.


Re: ripping DVDs accessible with NVDA

Lino Morales
 

I don't have the answer, but you need to consider whatever software you do happen to use that's accessible might throw you a curve ball. A lot of movies on DVD have DRM protections in place. If you own DVD's that have a digital copy by all means save that on your PC. Spank their butts if they distroy anything of yours. Your the gramps remember? LOL!


On 9/1/2017 12:24 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Hi,


I have been using FreemakeVC to rip our DVDs but it seems to be losing effectiveness as time goes.


Does anyone else know of an accessible way to do this using NVDA?  I am hoping for freeware tools being on a limited budget.


I want to  be able to rip DBDs to save them so grandchildren do not destroy the disks, extract movies/episodes so we can drop them on a jump drive to play on our TV that supports these.


Any ideas?


Dan Beaver



Making Partition Using NVDA

Raghavendra Janivarada
 

Hi List,

Kindly someone guide me to make partition on C drive using NVDA.

I am using Del laptop with Win10 64 Bits. In this laptop all the space is reserved for C drive. I want to make two partitions to allocate my data.

Thanks In Advance

Raghu

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Advisory on future releases for Joseph's add-ons: two add-ons will drop support for Windows XP and other old releases by end of 2017

 

Hi,
What I'm more worried about is the fact that not many add-ons are ready for
Python 3.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Advisory on future releases for Joseph's add-ons: two
add-ons will drop support for Windows XP and other old releases by end of
2017

Lets just hope not too many older routines are removed from the new versions
of nvda. This will allow writers, for example someone writing an app module
for OEE Classic to piggy back on the old OE app module and this may well be
the case for other routines that may be redundant but still used by an add
on on the web site. Somebody will need to keep an eye on this in case it
makes an add on unusable on future nvda versions when the original add on
author is no longer around to fix it. Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2017 3:02 AM
Subject: [nvda] Advisory on future releases for Joseph's add-ons: two
add-ons will drop support for Windows XP and other old releases by end of
2017


Ladies and gentlemen,



As a follow-up to a recent announcement from NV Access regarding
ending support for old Windows releases, I (Joseph Lee) would like to
announce that two of my add-ons will be ending support for Windows XP
by end of this
year:



* GoldWave: The next stable version (planned for later in September)
will be the last version to support GoldWave versions earlier than
5.70. A version planned for early 2018 will require GoldWave 6 or
later on Windows
7
SP1 and later (64-bit only).
* Resource Monitor: a stable version planned for early October will be
the last version to recognize Windows versions earlier than Windows
Vista due to newer psutil releases being incompatible with Windows XP
and Server 2003. A version to be released in April 2018 at the latest
will drop support for Windows Vista and Server 2008.



I will provide links to download last supported versions of these
add-ons that'll work on older Windows releases. As for other add-ons,
it'll depend on ability to use features from old NVDA releases.



Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: ocr

Rui Fontes
 

What I wanted to say is that FS, now VFO, is placing some features of another programs in all programs...
If you install Openbook without Jaws in the system, no problem since Openbook have a stripped version of Jaws to walk you through the install and execution of Openbook.

Now, they are placing more OCR power in Jaws OCR, allowing to use something like a virtual printer to send the file content to Openbook, or Windows10, OCR engine...

I think that VFO only will kill Openbook after buying Kurzweil...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Christopher-Mark Gilland
Data: 2 de setembro de 2017 02:39
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] ocr


I think what confused me was the comment that they're joining JAWS and openbook.

I took that to mean that now, Openbook was a dependency of the JAWS OCR feature. If that was the case, that would be incredibly asinine.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

http://www.gshministry.org
(980) 500-9575

----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] ocr


If I understand it correctly Jaws is using the Windows 10 function and not Open Book.




On 9/1/2017 8:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Ow'w'w, Gawod! Gr'roass! Don't tell me I have to have Openbook installed for the OCR in JFW to work! I happen to, so woohoo me, but for those who don't, that could really pose a major major problem!
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

http://www.gshministry.org
(980) 500-9575

----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] ocr

They are joining Jaws and Openbook...
That is a OCR application feature and not a screen reader feature.

To have that in NVDA we will need a virtual printer to send the resultant
image to the Windows 10 OCR engine, and hoping that the engine allows
multipage images...

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Don H
Data: 2 de setembro de 2017 01:16
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] ocr

With the OCR function in Jaws 2018 beta you find the file you want to
OCR in file explorer then open the context menu for the file and then
arrow down to recoginize with Jaws and hit enter. You then have a view
that you can read and or copy.


On 9/1/2017 7:12 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Can you explain the differences?
When I used Jaws, the difference was not much, as I remember...

Rui

-----Mensagem Original----- De: Don H
Data: 2 de setembro de 2017 01:03
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] ocr

Sorry to say that the OCR function in Jaws 2018 is much easier than the
OCR in NVDA. I say sorry because I like using NVDA much better than Jaws.










Re: ocr

Rui Fontes
 

In this new 2018 version, I don't know, but in older versiions it uses a king of FineReader Lite...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Don H
Data: 2 de setembro de 2017 02:35
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] ocr



If I understand it correctly Jaws is using the Windows 10 function and not Open Book.

On 9/1/2017 8:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Ow'w'w, Gawod! Gr'roass! Don't tell me I have to have Openbook installed for the OCR in JFW to work! I happen to, so woohoo me, but for those who don't, that could really pose a major major problem!
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

http://www.gshministry.org
(980) 500-9575

----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] ocr

They are joining Jaws and Openbook...
That is a OCR application feature and not a screen reader feature.

To have that in NVDA we will need a virtual printer to send the resultant
image to the Windows 10 OCR engine, and hoping that the engine allows
multipage images...

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Don H
Data: 2 de setembro de 2017 01:16
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] ocr

With the OCR function in Jaws 2018 beta you find the file you want to
OCR in file explorer then open the context menu for the file and then
arrow down to recoginize with Jaws and hit enter. You then have a view
that you can read and or copy.


On 9/1/2017 7:12 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Can you explain the differences?
When I used Jaws, the difference was not much, as I remember...

Rui

-----Mensagem Original----- De: Don H
Data: 2 de setembro de 2017 01:03
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] ocr

Sorry to say that the OCR function in Jaws 2018 is much easier than the
OCR in NVDA. I say sorry because I like using NVDA much better than Jaws.










Re: ocr

Rui Fontes
 

No, you don't need to have Openbook installed.
Since the first version of Jaws OCR that Jaws in its own instalation places in your system some kind of FineReader Lite to be used in Jaws OCR.

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Christopher-Mark Gilland
Data: 2 de setembro de 2017 02:27
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] ocr


Ow'w'w, Gawod! Gr'roass! Don't tell me I have to have Openbook installed for the OCR in JFW to work! I happen to, so woohoo me, but for those who don't, that could really pose a major major problem!
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

http://www.gshministry.org
(980) 500-9575

----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] ocr

They are joining Jaws and Openbook...
That is a OCR application feature and not a screen reader feature.

To have that in NVDA we will need a virtual printer to send the resultant
image to the Windows 10 OCR engine, and hoping that the engine allows
multipage images...

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Don H
Data: 2 de setembro de 2017 01:16
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] ocr

With the OCR function in Jaws 2018 beta you find the file you want to
OCR in file explorer then open the context menu for the file and then
arrow down to recoginize with Jaws and hit enter. You then have a view
that you can read and or copy.


On 9/1/2017 7:12 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Can you explain the differences?
When I used Jaws, the difference was not much, as I remember...

Rui

-----Mensagem Original----- De: Don H
Data: 2 de setembro de 2017 01:03
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] ocr

Sorry to say that the OCR function in Jaws 2018 is much easier than the
OCR in NVDA. I say sorry because I like using NVDA much better than Jaws.










Re: Outlook 2016 stopped by NVDA

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Pranav

That's interesting!
I have not heard of the Insider build of Office. What is it? What was the cause of the problem? What has been done to resolve it?


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2017 2:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 stopped by NVDA

Cearbhall,

Are you on the insider builds of office? I have switched to the insider build and it has mitigated the problem.

Pranav


Re: Outlook 2016 stopped by NVDA

Pranav Lal
 

Cearbhall,

Are you on the insider builds of office? I have switched to the insider build and it has mitigated the problem.

Pranav


Re: OCR >In Arabic

George Zaynoun
 

Above all that I add I chose Arabic as ocr language in NVDA when doing Arabic, Swedish when doing Swedish and I assume this should be enough.
Original message:

I didn't think of this language thing at all, I have Surface Pro 4 and
Windows language is English UK and NVDA language is set to user default
yet I have Arabic Lebanon installed and its input as well as the
language pack for Windows interface, same for Swedish, German and
French. I made OCR in Swedish and it was very good. It seems good in
Arabic but each line must be reversed.
Original message:
Hi George,
What is the language set to in NVDA menu, Preferences, Windows OCR?
(Note this can be set separately to NVDA's language). For good measure,
what are your Windows and NVDA language settings please?
Regards
Quentin.
On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 5:29 PM, George Zaynoun
<humorlessgeza@samobile.net <mailto:humorlessgeza@samobile.net>> wrote:

To the NVDA devs, I am getting good OCR results from .jpg files but
each line by itself is read from end to beginning i.e if I have to read
a line correctly I locate the line with cursor up/down then press end
and with ctrl+left arrow I read word by word, if I read a whole line it
is from end to beginning, please fix it asap, thanks.
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