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thunderbird add on

Don H
 

A short while ago someone on the list recommended a Thunderbird add on that allowed single letter navigation of the folder tree in Thunderbird.  Can someone give the name of that add on again.

Thanks


Re: jdf2dic

Ricardo Leonarczyk
 

Hi,

Well, I think it's possible to convert from .jdf to .dic to some
extent. Obviously, some things like sounds and other stuff not
currently present in NVDA will just have to be ignored.
I wasn't able to find any documentation on the jdf formatte, so I
assume one would need to do some reverse engineering e.g., try
creating various kinds of dictionary entries and see what happens to
the file.
Now, maybe this file you want to convert is a simple case and you can
just use regular expressions on the notepad++ or similar to make the
conversion. A tool to do this would be nice I think, but I'm not sure
if creating such a tool would be legal.
Is this jdf file available for download?


2017-09-05 14:44 GMT-03:00, Engin Albayrak <mealbayrak@gmail.com>:

Hello. In Turkey,We are using a jaws dictionary file for QuentinC's playroom
application to translate to Turkish. Because, the app and server doesn't
support Turkish language.
This jdf file is about 70 pages, and it contains about 2000 entry.
I want to edit it as a dic file for nvda.
Does anybody have any idea?
Thanks.





Re: NVDA constantly repeating icons on the desktop

Chris
 

Probably because the screen is being refreshed that can cause it to do this

Hit F5  On the desktop to simulate this

 

 


Re: Github

Quentin Christensen
 

Odd, it seems to be working for me.  Can anyone else reproduce this problem?


Press TAB four times to get to the Browse button and then press spacebar or enter to activate it.  It should bring up a standard Windows file open dialog.

Otherwise, the only thing I can think of, is whether you had explorer crashed or busy in the background or something?

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
It did not work in firefox either, I think short fragments of the log in the body are OK its other files that you really need to attach in case they get corrupted.
It seems to me that the browse, um does not browse ..!
Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Github


How odd. What shoudl happen si syou hit brows and the file dialogue shoudl appear, it does under safari. Try chrome maybe and see if that works and or firefox or edge?

Good luck.
On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Quentin,

Thanks for this excellent explanation!

I am being asked to attach the actual text file to a new issue rather than simply pasting in the contents of the log file, for instance . The problem is that I cannot get any option to attach a file when I clicked on the “browse” button. It would be a great help if you could explain how to attach a file using NVDA.

All the best,

Cearbhall

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 4:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Github

As mentioned, if you want to create a ticket, submit an issue or generally report something that isn't working / could work better / should be implemented etc, what you want to do is create a new issue.  The link to the issues section is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues <https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues>

Unless you are writing code yourself, you can mostly ignore the other sections (code, pull requests, projects, etc).

Ideally, it's worth jumping to the SECOND edit box on that page to search for the issue you want to report.  (the first one searches code and other things, you want to search issues).  So, if someone reported a problem with footnotes in Word 2016 for instance, I'd search for "word 2016 footnotes" or similar in that second edit box.  There are two types of issues, open and closed. Open issues are either new issues that haven't been triaged yet (that is, no one has looked at them to see how serious they are, whether the issue has already been reported etc), or issues which are being worked on, or waiting to be worked on.  Closed issues are issues which have either been fixed, or which are duplicates of other issues, or sometimes things which can't or won't be fixed.  If the problem with footnotes is that you want them to appear at the top of the page for instance, then that isn't something related to NVDA.  That's a feature request for Word itself and you'd need to submit that to Microsoft.

To create a new issue, there is a "new issue" button, you can jump straight there with https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/new <https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/new>

When you create a new issue, there is a block of text in the "comment" prompting you for the kinds of information that are useful in diagnosing the issue.  Please try and include: steps to reproduce the issue, attach any files which might help (eg if Word crashes every time you try and check formatting in this particular file, if you can share it, that would help), what should happen and what actually happens, and your system configuration (Windows version, application version, NVDA version and whether installed or portable), and anything you've done to try and resolve or get more information (eg tried different version of NVDA or other program).  Don't stress if you don't have every piece of that information or if you aren't sure if the issue has been filed before. When someone goes to triage the issue, they will ask for more information if needed.  If the issue has been filed previously, they will link to it (and likely close the duplicate issue you created).

If you do have any more questions, please feel free to ask.

Kind regards

Quentin.



On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@... <mailto:linomorales001@...om>> wrote:
Good point sir. Ive seen Get Hub's pages in the past and its confusing as heck.


On 9/3/2017 7:34 AM, Gene wrote:
I just looked at the Github NVDA part of the site.  I haven't signed up yet but it looks easy to do so and to create a pull request, which I assume is what is generally referred to on this list as a ticket.  But many people may find the page confusing. Is there a way that some sort of short help information can be inserted after the navigation links on the page, instructing people what to do to create what are called tickets, perhaps also how to search for tickets and how to create an account?  If tickets are desired from the widest variety of users, this process should be somehow explained and done so in a place that those wishing to create tickets will be likely to see the explanation.

Gene




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Re: New NVDA sounds

Quentin Christensen
 

Mostly just to back up what others have said and give a bit more background.  Initially, the idea was simply to "refresh" the sounds, much like we have also done with the logo in 2017.3.  It wasn't that nobody liked them, but it was really split - there were people who preferred the old sounds, some who liked the new sounds, and some who wanted to change the sounds, but didn't like the new ones either.  We hadn't considered that until the feedback started coming in from the snapshot users.  We realised then that what we needed to implement, more than just a new set of sounds on its own, was a way for people to be able to change their own sounds.  One idea for this is along the lines of the way you can install add-ons.  Ideally, unlike add-ons, we want something that will be a bit easier for users to package without needing programming skills.

Because of the divided feedback, we decided the best option (since it hadn't yet rolled out to the majority of users), was to pull the new sounds while we work on this new sound "theme" feature.

So, that's where it's at currently, and I believe someone else has provided instructions in this thread for your question.  Note that if you do that, keep a backup of the sounds as they may get overridden when you update NVDA, and they'll be easier to swap back if you've got the files handy.

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
Guys,
 
I was running, a while back a snapshot of NVDA 2017.3, and noticed that the NVDA sounds for things like startup, quitting, etc. were different than what they have been for the longest time.
 
Now, with the official release of 2017.3, I'm not seeing this.
 
Can someone advise me on how to go about getting those other sounds? I liked them much better.
 
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Re: Github

Bhavya shah
 

Hi all,
I see that a lot of NVDA users seem interested in helping out with
testing NVDA, sharing feedback, reporting bugs, etc. As an active
triager on the NVDA Github issue tracker (along with some other NVDA
community members), we try to make sure that all tickets are
systematic and well-defined, so that developers have sufficient
diagnostic information or compelling use cases ensuring that the
accepted suggestions are easy better understood and consequently
simpler to implement. Therefore, I fortunately have notable experience
in the past month or so with the issue filing side of Github,
knowledge that I would definitely be interested in passing on. I am
considering writing a comprehensive multi-part guide about filing
issues about NVDA on the Github tracker and other less emphasized and
unmentioned essentials you may want to keep in mind while doing the
same in the form of a blog post on my personal blog (Hiking Across
Horizons - bhavyashah125.wordpress.com). Unfortunately, I will not be
able to get to this blog post idea till the 27th September at least
due to upcoming academic commitments, so please expect to hear from me
in this regard post that date, hopefully. Just thought I'd give a
heads-up.
Thanks.

On 9/6/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
It did not work in firefox either, I think short fragments of the log in the

body are OK its other files that you really need to attach in case they get

corrupted.
It seems to me that the browse, um does not browse ..!
Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Github


How odd. What shoudl happen si syou hit brows and the file dialogue shoudl
appear, it does under safari. Try chrome maybe and see if that works and or

firefox or edge?

Good luck.
On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra
<cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote:

Quentin,

Thanks for this excellent explanation!

I am being asked to attach the actual text file to a new issue rather than

simply pasting in the contents of the log file, for instance . The problem

is that I cannot get any option to attach a file when I clicked on the
“browse” button. It would be a great help if you could explain how to
attach a file using NVDA.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>] On Behalf Of
Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 4:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Github

As mentioned, if you want to create a ticket, submit an issue or generally

report something that isn't working / could work better / should be
implemented etc, what you want to do is create a new issue. The link to
the issues section is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues
<https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues>

Unless you are writing code yourself, you can mostly ignore the other
sections (code, pull requests, projects, etc).

Ideally, it's worth jumping to the SECOND edit box on that page to search

for the issue you want to report. (the first one searches code and other

things, you want to search issues). So, if someone reported a problem
with footnotes in Word 2016 for instance, I'd search for "word 2016
footnotes" or similar in that second edit box. There are two types of
issues, open and closed. Open issues are either new issues that haven't
been triaged yet (that is, no one has looked at them to see how serious
they are, whether the issue has already been reported etc), or issues
which are being worked on, or waiting to be worked on. Closed issues are

issues which have either been fixed, or which are duplicates of other
issues, or sometimes things which can't or won't be fixed. If the problem

with footnotes is that you want them to appear at the top of the page for

instance, then that isn't something related to NVDA. That's a feature
request for Word itself and you'd need to submit that to Microsoft.

To create a new issue, there is a "new issue" button, you can jump
straight there with https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/new
<https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/new>

When you create a new issue, there is a block of text in the "comment"
prompting you for the kinds of information that are useful in diagnosing
the issue. Please try and include: steps to reproduce the issue, attach
any files which might help (eg if Word crashes every time you try and
check formatting in this particular file, if you can share it, that would

help), what should happen and what actually happens, and your system
configuration (Windows version, application version, NVDA version and
whether installed or portable), and anything you've done to try and
resolve or get more information (eg tried different version of NVDA or
other program). Don't stress if you don't have every piece of that
information or if you aren't sure if the issue has been filed before.
When someone goes to triage the issue, they will ask for more information

if needed. If the issue has been filed previously, they will link to it
(and likely close the duplicate issue you created).

If you do have any more questions, please feel free to ask.

Kind regards

Quentin.



On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com
<mailto:linomorales001@gmail.com>> wrote:
Good point sir. Ive seen Get Hub's pages in the past and its confusing as

heck.


On 9/3/2017 7:34 AM, Gene wrote:
I just looked at the Github NVDA part of the site. I haven't signed up
yet but it looks easy to do so and to create a pull request, which I
assume is what is generally referred to on this list as a ticket. But
many people may find the page confusing. Is there a way that some sort of

short help information can be inserted after the navigation links on the
page, instructing people what to do to create what are called tickets,
perhaps also how to search for tickets and how to create an account? If
tickets are desired from the widest variety of users, this process should

be somehow explained and done so in a place that those wishing to create
tickets will be likely to see the explanation.

Gene




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Re: nvdaremote

Jonathan Milam
 

It looks like it.  Does anyone have an update on this one?  I rely on NVDARemote for my job.

 

Thanks,

Jonathan

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mattias
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 5:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvdaremote

 

Are the nvdaremote server down?

 

Skickades från E-post för Windows 10

 


Re: one core voice install

Quentin Christensen
 

Go into region and language, install a language, then choose English, and from there choose whichever variant you want (Australian, Canadian, Irish etc).

Then make sure you go into that language and install the speech pack.

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:57 AM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo <ochikodinaka@...> wrote:
can I hear a demo of voices NVDA?

On 9/5/17, Darren Tomblin <dtomblin@...> wrote:
> hi, on my win10 system i'm trying to install additional one core voice
> and I can't figure out how to do it. I go into region and languages and
> I don't see where to add the other english voices. can someone help me
> with this. thanks
>
> --
> 73,
> Darren Tomblin(KC9JJJ)
>
>
>
>
>


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nvdaremote

mattias
 

Are the nvdaremote server down?

 

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Re: email and nvda

Gene
 

I didn't think it would.  there is no such entry in Windows Live Mail either.  I don't know how many programs have this feature.  It may be one you have to buy an e-mail program to get in a lot of cases.  I don't know this, but I wonder if Thunderbird is the only free option.          Gene

----- Original message -----
From: slery
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] email and nvda

FYI, Gene, this how it works/worked in Outlook. Tried this in win 10 mail and it didn't work.
Cindy

On September 5, 2017 10:28:20 PM "Gene" <gsasner@...> wrote:

That answers my question.  I've never seen this discussed and I've always moved from folder to folder in the treeview.
 
Gene
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Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] email and nvda

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 05:57 pm, Travis Siegel wrote:
I see no reason why it [opening more than one folder in one or more accounts] wouldn't work.  Thunderbird treats everything as a folder, and I see no reason why you couldn't open multiple folders whether they're in the same account or not.
I can confirm you can do this.  If you right click on a given folder (hit the menu/apps key or Shift+F10) one of the options is to open in a new tab (or new window).  You can have as many tabs (or windows) as you wish open and each of these tabs (windows) can contain a single folder from any of the accounts you have set up.
 
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Re: weather plus addon

Gene
 

You don't have to change default browsers.  Just copy and paste the link into the address field of whatever browser you want to use.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] weather plus addon

Hi all!

I just downloaded the latest version of the Weather add on with IE 11.

I just set IE as my default browser for this one time, and entered on the link. It downloaded just like it should.

Just wanted you all to know that IE will download it.

Thanks a lot, Adriano

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Andrea Sherry
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 7:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] weather plus addon

 

Using Firefox 64 bit latest stable version on a Windows 10 pro system

Andrea

On 6/09/2017 8:29 AM, Gene wrote:

What browser are you using?  If Internet Explorer, have you checked to see if anything comes up in the information bar you need to attend to?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 5:06 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] weather plus addon

 

In both case nothing occurs.

Andrea

 

On 6/09/2017 7:02 AM, Gene wrote:

What happens when you follow the link and have you tried pasting it into the browser address bar?

 

Gene

----- original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 3:55 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] weather plus addon

 

The link in this email does not work for me.

Andrea

 

On 6/09/2017 6:28 AM, Rémy Ruiz wrote:

Hi,

The address of download in Italian page is changed, then Weather Plus 4.4 is
not able to update itself.
For this time, you can download it from here:
http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus4.5.nvda-addon
Then everything will go back to normal.

Thanks to all for your support.

Cheers
Adriano

 

Le 05/09/2017 à 19:59, Gene a écrit :

What browser are you using?  your browser is evidently opening the file in the browser instead of downloading it.  Do you have other browsers on the machine?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Don H

Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 12:26 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] weather plus addon

 

When I try this link I get a page that starts with the following lines
and seems to be several pages long.

PK




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On 9/5/2017 12:21 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
> Hi!
>
> http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus4.5.nvda-addon
>
> Rui
>
> -----Mensagem Original----- De: Brian Vogel
> Data: 5 de setembro de 2017 17:15
> Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Assunto: Re: [nvda] weather plus addon
>
> All "official" NVDA add-ons, including Weather Plus, can be found on
> this page:  https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html



 

 

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Re: Can anyone suggest how to earn money easily from online using nvda

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I'd doubt that. I think you are at the wrong end of the horse as a friend of mine used to say. First find something people will pay oyou for then see if nvda can help you do it!
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Can anyone suggest how to earn money easily from online using nvda


any jobs with nvACCESS? or nvda I want2make money with NVDA

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Hello groups, as I heard that there is available options to earn money
from online I need your advice. Is it possible to earn money from
online? If so, what types of work I should do using nvda? Actually, I
am unemployed and I have enough time and I need nearly about $5 per
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Re: New NVDA sounds

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Well it seems many did not. I think a lot of it was the higher pitched sounds were not heard by those with hearing loss. Since the code is not in nvda for allowing these to be changed it was felt, I think that they would leave it till people could use this function. However if you want to manually change them it is easy. If you kept the old snap or its archive, you can run it, let it extract as a portable version to a folder, then go there, grab the waves folder and copy it to the one in the installed copy. do this while not running it though. Then restart the installed copy and they will be in there till you do an update at which point you need to copy them again. What I have done is renamed the waves to waves2 and then just copied waves to that folder. This should make it easier next time to change them.
If you do not have a snap them let us know on here, I'm sure somebody has a copy somewhere.
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Subject: [nvda] New NVDA sounds


Guys,

I was running, a while back a snapshot of NVDA 2017.3, and noticed that the NVDA sounds for things like startup, quitting, etc. were different than what they have been for the longest time.

Now, with the official release of 2017.3, I'm not seeing this.

Can someone advise me on how to go about getting those other sounds? I liked them much better.

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Re: Making Partition Using NVDA

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We were not just saying that it had to come with windows or that it be free, just that it worked and could run its config in windows.
That was all. I'm beginning to wish I'd never mentioned it here now.
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You're not listening.

The person asked for a tool that was both accessible, and included with windows. I suggested paragon's disk manager or partition program because I don't know of any programs that fit the original posters requirements, and apparently you don't either, since you keep pushing partition magic which definitely does not come with windows, and is definitely not a free utility, and also is not accessible with NVDA or any other screen reader for that matter, so you fail on all counts.


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Its a tool that works in Windows here, as I just ran it on an xp machine. It uses another small O'S to do the work certainly, but the one I have actually makes its script in xp, then reboots to do the work.


Please don't be so adamant about things. It sounds rude. I don't get annoyed easily, but others might of course.

Anyway, have a nice day.
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Partition magic is *not* (I repeat) partition magic is *not* a windows tool. Therefore, your statements are erroneous. Microsoft does not include partition magic with windows, so that makes it neither free, nor is it part of windows (which is what the original poster was asking for.



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That is clearly not true, as a friend of mine has done this, but he is sighted. He used partition magic and a special bit of code in the primary partition that allowed you to select which OS you booted. As there are only two and it always defaults to the same position, the fact that this does not speak is not an issue for blind use.
I'll need to ask him the trick.
I think it can have issues if there is already a hidden partition for recovery use as is often the case these days. Brian

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If there's a way to resize partitions with built in windows tools, I
sure never learned about it. The only way to make one partition two
partitions is to delete the existing partition, and create two of them,
which wipes out everything on the drive, and leaves you with two freshly
formatted partitions both of which will be completely blank. This is
fine if you don't care about the contents of your hard disk, but if
you're trying to simply split a single partition into two partitions,
then there aren't any ways to do this with just default windows utilities.


On 9/2/2017 11:41 PM, Raghavendra Janivarada wrote:

Hi, I don’t want to go with third party application. Built-in disk
management option can fulfil my requirement. My question is that How
to do this using NVDA?

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Unless you have a program that can resize partitions, you're not going
to be able to change your partitions without loosing
everything.Paragon has a couple programs that can do this, check out
http://paragon-software.com and take a look at their partition manager
or their hard disk manager depending on how much you want to do. Both
programs aren't 100 percent accessible, but they're close enough to
get the job done. If you're willing to help out, let me know, and
can give you my affiliate links, but if you just want to purchase the
programs, that's ok too.

On 9/2/2017 12:07 PM, Raghavendra Janivarada wrote:

Hi List,

Kindly someone guide me to make partition on C drive using NVDA.

I am using Del laptop with Win10 64 Bits. In this laptop all the
space is reserved for C drive. I want to make two partitions to
allocate my data.

Thanks In Advance

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Re: email and nvda

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And that is exactly why I like it.

Sorry but I'm obviously a square peg, the exception to a rule etc, and I cannot help that, its me and its my experience and preference.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] email and nvda


On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 01:11 pm, Gene wrote:


I don't use identities but that may be something many sighted people want
as well, though it isn't favored by modern e-mail programs.
Clearly they do not, or this concept would not have gone the way of the dinosaur.

The only e-mail client I know of that ever used identities is Outlook Express. Outlook Express has been dead for a long time. If identities had been considered a "must have" feature every e-mail client that has come since would have created them. What became a "hot item," which I dislike, is the universal inbox that takes all the inboxes of all the accounts you have in an e-mail client and integrates all the messages in all of them arranged, whether threaded or unthreaded, with the sort order you want. That's my idea of a nightmare because my e-mail accounts are used for separate purposes and the last thing I want is to be looking at all of them at once. I am, however, clearly in the minority since the universal inbox is a very popular and almost ubiquitous feature these days.

I have never understood the attraction of identities, myself. It is easy enough to jump from account to account in a tree structure and those accounts are entirely separate entities. I believe that this is the reason that identities really never took off.

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Re: Bugzilla

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Yes done that its understanding the lingo in the emails coming back about a bug I reported that is my issue? Some are obvious, but others very cryptic.
I think they are writtenfor programmers who know the conventions used in Mozilla not a humbe bug reporter... sadly!
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Bugzilla


hi.
you need to subscribe, sign in with your user account and report bugs
or send comments in the bugs which are previously reported.

On 9/5/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
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As some people here have been very helpful explaining how github sort of
does things, I wonder if anyone has had experience of The Mozilla Bugzilla
system?
I reported the flaky focus at start up in the beta of 56 but today there
have been a little flurry of emails from that report, which are not exactly

easy to understand. I'm managed to see that one says 55 is ok and its 56 and

57 that appear to have the issue, but there are others with complete
gibberish from my point of view. It says do not reply to the emails so I
suppose e I need to watch for some recognised word like closed or fixed
before I try another beta then?
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Re: email and nvda

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Hmm I find the opposite. Web interfaces are all different between my different email web mail sources and since I do not need to have access from anywhere and any thing then the simpler the better.
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On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 07:28 pm, Gene wrote:


I've never seen this discussed and I've always moved from folder to folder
in the treeview.
That's generally how we "sightees" do it, too. I have had very rare occasion to keep a single folder open in its own tab (I never use separate windows) when I know that there is going to be "hot and heavy" traffic and I just want to leave that particular folder open and jump between tabs rather than click between folders in tree view. In general I find it just as fast to jump between folders with point and click.

Now I've largely transitioned to using web-based interfaces to my e-mail accounts because of ease of access, and consistent look and feel, from anywhere I can get on to a web-connected computer.

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Re: New NVDA sounds

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You mean the ones in an old next snapshot? these were regressed due to nobody really liking them. I might still have them in an old snapshot somewhere, I'm not sure.
Remember though that they do get overwritten on any new install.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] New NVDA sounds


I need the sondSounds please send them 2me email them

On 9/5/17, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi.
could someone send the sounds for me privately to test?
thanks and God bless you all.

On 9/6/17, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo <ochikodinaka@gmail.com>
wrote:
I need the ad on NVDA sounds

On 9/5/17, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,

I was running, a while back a snapshot of NVDA 2017.3, and noticed that
the
NVDA sounds for things like startup, quitting, etc. were different than
what
they have been for the longest time.

Now, with the official release of 2017.3, I'm not seeing this.

Can someone advise me on how to go about getting those other sounds? I
liked
them much better.

Chris.
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Re: Installation problem

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Hmm, well the dialogue is obviously coming up, but windows is not allowing you to see it by the sound of it.
I don't know if you have a pair of eyes but it might be interesting to look at task manager and see if the running process is showing.
Maybe its not just nvda, maybe the window for this is somehow being disable by a windows problem.

The fact that you hear the sound makes me think its a windows issue.

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Subject: [nvda] Installation problem


Hi all,

I have a really interesting problem that I haven’t been able to solve.
I’ve never had a problem installing NVDA before including the laptop that I’m having problems with. I have downloaded it a couple times to make sure the file wasn’t a problem and have used it to install onto another laptop and it worked fine.

I am using as a backup laptop my very inexpensive Toshiba laptop. 64 bit, With 8Gb Ram. It works fine with the portable version of NVDA.
It’s running the latest Windows 10 creators edition. When I try to install NVDA I get the music that you expect, I then get the rising tones, and then a few seconds later I get the system sound that you would normally need to answer yes or no to, to allow a program to make changes or install. However that doesn’t appear and it is not in the system tray. There is nothing in the task manager or process areas as well.

Any great thoughts would be very much appreciated.

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Re: NVDA constantly repeating icons on the desktop

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Is it a laptop them I assume so. Do you have any bluetooth devices attached that are control devices?
Apart from that I'm stuck.


If there is no animation on the destop or in any icons all should be OK.
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I disabled my touch pad and it still does it every on ce in a while. Ic annot reproduce all the time though. It is an odd one. Sorry about typing. I just got done practicing for a tournament and my hands hurt.

Take care all.
On Sep 5, 2017, at 12:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

No if these are normal icons then it should not be doing it. Has the machine got a mouse attached or one of those pesky touch pads or a little joystick in the keyboard as seen on some laptops. I've had those suddenly do silly things and move the mouse about for no good reason.
if it worked ok before the update there has been no changes that should make any difference to the desktop that I can think of.
What happens if you tab to other parts of the screen like the start button does it drag focus away to the desktop again?
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Hi
Is it a bug? How can it be fixed? It’s really annoying.

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On Sep 5, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:

I get this repeating after returning from sleep mode where NVDA keeps repeating the name associated with the icon that happens to have focus.


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No that is not normal unless the image is constantly being redrawn.
That seems an unlikely event.
I had something like this once in XP with aa clever special icon that had a timer inside it but apart from that not seen it.
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Subject: [nvda] NVDA constantly repeating icons on the desktop


Hi,

I'm having an interesting issue with NVDA 2017.3.

When on my desktop, if I don't move, NVDA constantly repeats the name of the
icon that currently has focus.

Is this normal?





Can anyone tell me how to fix it?



Thanks,

Jessica