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Re: email and nvda

 

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 07:00 pm, slery wrote:
Does it not work with imap?
It works just fine with IMAP.   Any contemporary e-mail client must.
 
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Re: email and nvda

slery <slerythema@...>
 

Does it not work with imap?
Cindy

On September 6, 2017 8:41:41 PM "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal@...> wrote:

The problem with thunderbird is that as of now, you cannot import messages from outlook therefore for me, it is a non-starter.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 11:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] email and nvda

 

As far as I know, Thunderbird doesn't open multiple folders at the same time.  If that isn't essential, it will do everything else, as will e-mail programs in general.

 

Gene

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Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 11:39 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] email and nvda

 

Hi,

 

Try Mozilla Thunderbird. Works with NVDA just fine and has everything you need.

 

Tony

 

On 9/3/2017 10:20 PM, slery wrote:

I am looking for a new email program (obviously needs to work with NVDA).

 

Must haves: work with gmail, work with multiple email accounts, open multiple folders at the same time

 

Thanks for any help. Outlook keeps crashing every time I try to open a second folder (or even just switch to a different folder within the same window).

Cindy

 


Re: [NVDA stopping Outlook 2016

slery <slerythema@...>
 

I am going to give Thunderbird a try.
Cindy

On September 6, 2017 8:41:45 PM "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal@...> wrote:

Hi Cindy

 

I hear you. I do need to refer to messages and do need to switch folders and have things open in Outlook. I have said on other threads that upgrading to insider builds of Office has helped a bit with the problem. However, the problem remains a frequent one. The only cure is a reboot of my computer. I did test with narrator once and found that the problem occurs with it as well so it may be an Office problem.


Pranav


Re: Installation problem

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Jim


Glad you got it sorted out.


so i am guessing nvda is installed now.


Gene nz



On 07/09/2017 12:50, Jim Pipczak wrote:

Hi,

 

Some excellent suggestions.

There was a previous installation of NVDA in appdata and deleting the folder then allowed the installation of NVDA.

You’re a genius and I thank you very much.

 

Thanks,

Jim.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Thursday, 7 September 2017 7:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Installation problem

 

Hi

 

usually in most cases it would be a uac screen that would come up. the portable version would not be able to see it only the installer version. when it comes up it or you would use the alt key + letter Y if i remember right so it keep on installing it.

 

the other thing is your anti virus could be stopping it? but if it is the one that comes with windows i do not think it would be.

 

You could always start up narrator on th ewindows 10 creators version use the ctrl key + windows key + the enter key to start him up. Make sure when you go to plug in the portable version then go to start it hopefully narrator might be able to see if there is a message there stopping nvda from been installed.

 

Is it the first time you done it  did you get the same results each time? I think you did.

 

the worst you could do is use narrator to go to programs and features in control panel and see if nvda was installed. If it was uninstall it.

 

The other place to to check is %appdata% then press the enter key. When the next screen comes up locate the nvda folder and delete it then use the alt key + f4 key to close that page.

 

You will most probably have to reboot windows then go back and install nvda maybe the nvda.ini file got corrupted?



Gene nz

On 06/09/2017 15:44, Jim Pipczak wrote:

Hi all,

 

I have a really interesting problem that I haven’t been able to solve.

I’ve never had a problem installing NVDA before including the laptop that I’m having problems with. I have downloaded it a couple times to make sure the file wasn’t a problem and have used it to install onto another laptop and it worked fine.

 

I am using as a backup laptop my very inexpensive Toshiba laptop. 64 bit, With 8Gb Ram. It works fine with the portable version of NVDA.

It’s running the latest Windows 10 creators edition. When I try to install NVDA I get the music that you expect, I then get the rising tones, and then a few seconds later I get the system sound that you would normally  need to answer yes or no to, to allow a program to make changes or install. However that doesn’t appear and it is not in the system tray. There is nothing in the task manager or process areas as well.

 

Any great thoughts would be very much appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Jim.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Nvda 2017.3, errorwave you do not hear

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Adriano, the error sound is usually only played in the snapshot builds - Next and Master builds.  If you are using NVDA 2017.3 you shouldn't hear them.

Note that NVDA 2017.4 won't support XP anymore.  Once we discovered this with a recent snapshot build, we built in a check which warns you and automatically offers to install 2017.3 (the stable version).  If you were running off a Next or Master build and updated to one of these newer versions then followed the prompts to move to 2017.3, you won't be on the next or master branch anymore and hence won't hear those sounds.  Brian can likely reccomend the exact last builds you can use, but we'd officially recommend just staying on 2017.3 from now on XP.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io <adrianobarb@...> wrote:
Hi,

I just upgraded this version into XP machine, I noticed that no longer feels the sound error when happens.
All other sounds work correctly.
What can I do?
Thanks

Cheers
Adriano







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Re: Github

Quentin Christensen
 

Cearbhall,  I wonder do you perhaps have some kind of popup blocking in Firefox?  Or some other Firefox add-on that might be intercepting and stopping the dialog from displaying?

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 1:42 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Quentin,

 

I tried again, this time with Google Chrome. It worked fine! So, the problem is with Firefox and NVDA.  The NVDA log shows nothing for the Firefox action except innocent keystrokes but the upload action seems to be blocked in Firefox.

 

Anyway, it does work with Google Chrome.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 12:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Github

 

Odd, it seems to be working for me.  Can anyone else reproduce this problem?

 

 

Press TAB four times to get to the Browse button and then press spacebar or enter to activate it.  It should bring up a standard Windows file open dialog.

 

Otherwise, the only thing I can think of, is whether you had explorer crashed or busy in the background or something?

 

Regards


Quentin.

 

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

It did not work in firefox either, I think short fragments of the log in the body are OK its other files that you really need to attach in case they get corrupted.
It seems to me that the browse, um does not browse ..!
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Github


How odd. What shoudl happen si syou hit brows and the file dialogue shoudl appear, it does under safari. Try chrome maybe and see if that works and or firefox or edge?

Good luck.

On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Quentin,

Thanks for this excellent explanation!

I am being asked to attach the actual text file to a new issue rather than simply pasting in the contents of the log file, for instance . The problem is that I cannot get any option to attach a file when I clicked on the “browse” button. It would be a great help if you could explain how to attach a file using NVDA.

All the best,

Cearbhall

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 4:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Github

As mentioned, if you want to create a ticket, submit an issue or generally report something that isn't working / could work better / should be implemented etc, what you want to do is create a new issue.  The link to the issues section is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues <https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues>

Unless you are writing code yourself, you can mostly ignore the other sections (code, pull requests, projects, etc).

Ideally, it's worth jumping to the SECOND edit box on that page to search for the issue you want to report.  (the first one searches code and other things, you want to search issues).  So, if someone reported a problem with footnotes in Word 2016 for instance, I'd search for "word 2016 footnotes" or similar in that second edit box.  There are two types of issues, open and closed. Open issues are either new issues that haven't been triaged yet (that is, no one has looked at them to see how serious they are, whether the issue has already been reported etc), or issues which are being worked on, or waiting to be worked on.  Closed issues are issues which have either been fixed, or which are duplicates of other issues, or sometimes things which can't or won't be fixed.  If the problem with footnotes is that you want them to appear at the top of the page for instance, then that isn't something related to NVDA.  That's a feature request for Word itself and you'd need to submit that to Microsoft.

To create a new issue, there is a "new issue" button, you can jump straight there with https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/new <https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/new>

When you create a new issue, there is a block of text in the "comment" prompting you for the kinds of information that are useful in diagnosing the issue.  Please try and include: steps to reproduce the issue, attach any files which might help (eg if Word crashes every time you try and check formatting in this particular file, if you can share it, that would help), what should happen and what actually happens, and your system configuration (Windows version, application version, NVDA version and whether installed or portable), and anything you've done to try and resolve or get more information (eg tried different version of NVDA or other program).  Don't stress if you don't have every piece of that information or if you aren't sure if the issue has been filed before. When someone goes to triage the issue, they will ask for more information if needed.  If the issue has been filed previously, they will link to it (and likely close the duplicate issue you created).

If you do have any more questions, please feel free to ask.

Kind regards

Quentin.



On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@... <mailto:linomorales001@gmail.com>> wrote:
Good point sir. Ive seen Get Hub's pages in the past and its confusing as heck.


On 9/3/2017 7:34 AM, Gene wrote:
I just looked at the Github NVDA part of the site.  I haven't signed up yet but it looks easy to do so and to create a pull request, which I assume is what is generally referred to on this list as a ticket.  But many people may find the page confusing. Is there a way that some sort of short help information can be inserted after the navigation links on the page, instructing people what to do to create what are called tickets, perhaps also how to search for tickets and how to create an account?  If tickets are desired from the widest variety of users, this process should be somehow explained and done so in a place that those wishing to create tickets will be likely to see the explanation.

Gene




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Re: Installation problem

Jim Pipczak
 

Hi,

 

Some excellent suggestions.

There was a previous installation of NVDA in appdata and deleting the folder then allowed the installation of NVDA.

You’re a genius and I thank you very much.

 

Thanks,

Jim.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Thursday, 7 September 2017 7:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Installation problem

 

Hi

 

usually in most cases it would be a uac screen that would come up. the portable version would not be able to see it only the installer version. when it comes up it or you would use the alt key + letter Y if i remember right so it keep on installing it.

 

the other thing is your anti virus could be stopping it? but if it is the one that comes with windows i do not think it would be.

 

You could always start up narrator on th ewindows 10 creators version use the ctrl key + windows key + the enter key to start him up. Make sure when you go to plug in the portable version then go to start it hopefully narrator might be able to see if there is a message there stopping nvda from been installed.

 

Is it the first time you done it  did you get the same results each time? I think you did.

 

the worst you could do is use narrator to go to programs and features in control panel and see if nvda was installed. If it was uninstall it.

 

The other place to to check is %appdata% then press the enter key. When the next screen comes up locate the nvda folder and delete it then use the alt key + f4 key to close that page.

 

You will most probably have to reboot windows then go back and install nvda maybe the nvda.ini file got corrupted?



Gene nz

On 06/09/2017 15:44, Jim Pipczak wrote:

Hi all,

 

I have a really interesting problem that I haven’t been able to solve.

I’ve never had a problem installing NVDA before including the laptop that I’m having problems with. I have downloaded it a couple times to make sure the file wasn’t a problem and have used it to install onto another laptop and it worked fine.

 

I am using as a backup laptop my very inexpensive Toshiba laptop. 64 bit, With 8Gb Ram. It works fine with the portable version of NVDA.

It’s running the latest Windows 10 creators edition. When I try to install NVDA I get the music that you expect, I then get the rising tones, and then a few seconds later I get the system sound that you would normally  need to answer yes or no to, to allow a program to make changes or install. However that doesn’t appear and it is not in the system tray. There is nothing in the task manager or process areas as well.

 

Any great thoughts would be very much appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Jim.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jim Pipczak
Access Technology Technical Lead
Digital
Vision Australia
346 Macaulay Rd (cnr Stubbs St) Kensington VIC 3031

T: 03 8378 1243 (I: 344243)
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Re: [NVDA stopping Outlook 2016

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Cindy

 

I hear you. I do need to refer to messages and do need to switch folders and have things open in Outlook. I have said on other threads that upgrading to insider builds of Office has helped a bit with the problem. However, the problem remains a frequent one. The only cure is a reboot of my computer. I did test with narrator once and found that the problem occurs with it as well so it may be an Office problem.


Pranav


Re: email and nvda

Pranav Lal
 

The problem with thunderbird is that as of now, you cannot import messages from outlook therefore for me, it is a non-starter.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 11:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] email and nvda

 

As far as I know, Thunderbird doesn't open multiple folders at the same time.  If that isn't essential, it will do everything else, as will e-mail programs in general.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 11:39 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] email and nvda

 

Hi,

 

Try Mozilla Thunderbird. Works with NVDA just fine and has everything you need.

 

Tony

 

On 9/3/2017 10:20 PM, slery wrote:

I am looking for a new email program (obviously needs to work with NVDA).

 

Must haves: work with gmail, work with multiple email accounts, open multiple folders at the same time

 

Thanks for any help. Outlook keeps crashing every time I try to open a second folder (or even just switch to a different folder within the same window).

Cindy

 


Re: NVDA constantly repeating icons on the desktop

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Jessica,

 

I have the same problem on windows 10. I keep focus on the task bar. If I leave the focus on the desktop, NVDA keeps repeating the icon that has the focus. I am not installing anything.

 

Pranav


Re: Installation problem

Jim Pipczak
 

Hi,

Yes I am partially sighted and have checked the task manager and there is nothing there for NVDA. I have also turned off UAC.

Thanks,
Jim

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Sent: Wednesday, 6 September 2017 6:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Installation problem

Hmm, well the dialogue is obviously coming up, but windows is not allowing you to see it by the sound of it.
I don't know if you have a pair of eyes but it might be interesting to look at task manager and see if the running process is showing.
Maybe its not just nvda, maybe the window for this is somehow being disable by a windows problem.

The fact that you hear the sound makes me think its a windows issue.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Pipczak" <jim.pipczak@visionaustralia.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 4:44 AM
Subject: [nvda] Installation problem


Hi all,

I have a really interesting problem that I haven’t been able to solve.
I’ve never had a problem installing NVDA before including the laptop that
I’m having problems with. I have downloaded it a couple times to make sure
the file wasn’t a problem and have used it to install onto another laptop
and it worked fine.

I am using as a backup laptop my very inexpensive Toshiba laptop. 64 bit,
With 8Gb Ram. It works fine with the portable version of NVDA.
It’s running the latest Windows 10 creators edition. When I try to install
NVDA I get the music that you expect, I then get the rising tones, and
then a few seconds later I get the system sound that you would normally
need to answer yes or no to, to allow a program to make changes or
install. However that doesn’t appear and it is not in the system tray.
There is nothing in the task manager or process areas as well.

Any great thoughts would be very much appreciated.

Thanks,
Jim.









Jim Pipczak
Access Technology Technical Lead
Digital
Vision Australia
346 Macaulay Rd (cnr Stubbs St) Kensington VIC 3031

T: 03 8378 1243 (I: 344243)
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Re: one core voice install

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Don


This link from the user manual i will add later on to my nvda tutorials for windows 10 page but even though it mentions narrator  the same voices can be used with nvda.


It will give you a better idea of which ones can be installed.


The link to this page is https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/22797/windows-10-narrator-tts-voices



There was also a audio tutorial that i just drop boxed if you want to listen to it which will be added to the page on my website.


hope it helps


Gene nz



On 07/09/2017 10:56, Don H wrote:
OK under English you have tree voices to choose from David mobile, Zira mobile and Mark mobile.  Is there a way to increase the choices beyond these three?





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Re: one core voice install

Don H
 

OK under English you have tree voices to choose from David mobile, Zira mobile and Mark mobile.  Is there a way to increase the choices beyond these three?


Re: one core voice install

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


I just done a quick audio tutorial on the steps of what to do. Later on it will be linked to a drop box account and linked to the page i sent you later on today.


the link to the drop box where it is can be found at https://www.dropbox.com/s/9rbngk479wnb7lg/adding%20a%20windows%20one%20core%20voice%20to%20nvda.MP3?dl=0



hope it helps some on the list to get them with the audio version.

Gene nz

On 06/09/2017 10:55, Darren Tomblin wrote:
hi, on my win10 system i'm trying to install additional one core voice 
and I can't figure out how to do it. I go into region and languages and 
I don't see where to add the other english voices. can someone help me 
with this. thanks


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Re: jdf2dic

Engin Albayrak <mealbayrak@...>
 

Thanks for Your intrest. The file is Here:
https://yadi.sk/d/8P13yRKjjzLJf
If You want, You can write to my mail for not to disturb the group.
Thanks again.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ricardo Leonarczyk
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 3:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] jdf2dic

Hi,

Well, I think it's possible to convert from .jdf to .dic to some extent. Obviously, some things like sounds and other stuff not currently present in NVDA will just have to be ignored.
I wasn't able to find any documentation on the jdf formatte, so I assume one would need to do some reverse engineering e.g., try creating various kinds of dictionary entries and see what happens to the file.
Now, maybe this file you want to convert is a simple case and you can just use regular expressions on the notepad++ or similar to make the conversion. A tool to do this would be nice I think, but I'm not sure if creating such a tool would be legal.
Is this jdf file available for download?


2017-09-05 14:44 GMT-03:00, Engin Albayrak <mealbayrak@gmail.com>:
Hello. In Turkey,We are using a jaws dictionary file for QuentinC's
playroom application to translate to Turkish. Because, the app and
server doesn't support Turkish language.
This jdf file is about 70 pages, and it contains about 2000 entry.
I want to edit it as a dic file for nvda.
Does anybody have any idea?
Thanks.





Re: lag when writing messages in thunderbird

Sally Kiebdaj
 

I think I killed all of those power saving routines. :)

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No its not the machine unless its very throttled back by power saving routines.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 1:11 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] lag when writing messages in thunderbird


I have also had big lags only in TB composition but with both NVDA and
Window-Eyes.

I am running Windows 7 pro on an i7 2.7GHrz processor with 16 GB of RAM. I
don't think the lag should be from a slow machine especially since it
doesn't impact programs like word or excel which can lag with lack of
processing power.

I have the service pack 1 for win 7 and haven't looked into other service
packs. Might that help?

Thoughts?
Sally

On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io <
the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:

tbird.


On 02/09/2017 10:26, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Is this the search in Windows or Tbird?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io"
<the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] lag when writing messages in thunderbird


Hi,   I don't know if this will fix it or not,   but I remember Jamey
posted something because tb was crashing but this was some years ago this
is his work and not mine. text below.

General sluggishness with Thunderbird.  I have a feeling, though,
that this is a Thunderbird issue and nothing to do with NVDA.
Try disabling Tools -> Options -> Advanced -> Enable Global Search and
Indexer. Note that this isn't accessibility or screen reader specific,
but I personally found that global search didn't help me and was a
performance killer.

On 01/09/2017 14:41, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:

Hello,
I have noticed this as well. Any solution to this problem would be
greatly appreciated. I don't know what is causing it. I'm using the latest
NVDA, Thunderbird, and windows 8.1 if that helps. I am glad it's not just
me noticing this. I thought my computer was going crazy or something. LOL
Thanks,
Jeffrey

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2017, at 11:49 PM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...
<mailto:linomorales001@...om>> wrote:

Josh I;ve noticed this also.


On 8/31/2017 8:39 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:


When composing new emails and writing messages in mozilla thunderbird
I get significant lag when trying to edit and write messages. Is there a
way to change the cursor in thunderbird to a more responsive one?


Josh


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Re: one core voice install

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Did you get your one core voices installed?


If you are interested i did write up a tutorial on installing these voices on my website i am putting together. The page can be found at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html

When you get to it jump down by headings to the section about instaling the one core voices. You will have to use object navigation to get to the button to download the synth pack for it. the directions are step by step but the object navigation commands are only for the desktop not a lap top as that is what i use.


There is a link in the user manual if i remember right that tells you which voices have the synth pack which i will add later on today or tomorrow to the tutorial.


hope it helps.


I thought i had a audio tutorial but can not seem to find it and it is not in my drop box either.




hope it helps.

Gene nz



On 06/09/2017 10:55, Darren Tomblin wrote:
hi, on my win10 system i'm trying to install additional one core voice 
and I can't figure out how to do it. I go into region and languages and 
I don't see where to add the other english voices. can someone help me 
with this. thanks


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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Installation problem

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


usually in most cases it would be a uac screen that would come up. the portable version would not be able to see it only the installer version. when it comes up it or you would use the alt key + letter Y if i remember right so it keep on installing it.


the other thing is your anti virus could be stopping it? but if it is the one that comes with windows i do not think it would be.


You could always start up narrator on th ewindows 10 creators version use the ctrl key + windows key + the enter key to start him up. Make sure when you go to plug in the portable version then go to start it hopefully narrator might be able to see if there is a message there stopping nvda from been installed.


Is it the first time you done it  did you get the same results each time? I think you did.


the worst you could do is use narrator to go to programs and features in control panel and see if nvda was installed. If it was uninstall it.


The other place to to check is %appdata% then press the enter key. When the next screen comes up locate the nvda folder and delete it then use the alt key + f4 key to close that page.


You will most probably have to reboot windows then go back and install nvda maybe the nvda.ini file got corrupted?



Gene nz

On 06/09/2017 15:44, Jim Pipczak wrote:

Hi all,

 

I have a really interesting problem that I haven’t been able to solve.

I’ve never had a problem installing NVDA before including the laptop that I’m having problems with. I have downloaded it a couple times to make sure the file wasn’t a problem and have used it to install onto another laptop and it worked fine.

 

I am using as a backup laptop my very inexpensive Toshiba laptop. 64 bit, With 8Gb Ram. It works fine with the portable version of NVDA.

It’s running the latest Windows 10 creators edition. When I try to install NVDA I get the music that you expect, I then get the rising tones, and then a few seconds later I get the system sound that you would normally  need to answer yes or no to, to allow a program to make changes or install. However that doesn’t appear and it is not in the system tray. There is nothing in the task manager or process areas as well.

 

Any great thoughts would be very much appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Jim.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Re: thunderbird add on

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


I also have the directions and the link to the page where to get the add on from on my accessible email client mozilla thunder bird page.


The add on works a treat.


Gene nz



On 07/09/2017 02:05, Gene wrote:
A google search for Thunderbird add on first letter navigation produced this page as the second result
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 7:40 AM
Subject: [nvda] thunderbird add on

A short while ago someone on the list recommended a Thunderbird add on
that allowed single letter navigation of the folder tree in
Thunderbird.  Can someone give the name of that add on again.

Thanks





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Re: [DECtalk] Lyrebird TTS, a demo is finally here!

 

there is no way to inter the numbers n to the capcha

any one got a fix fore this?

On 9/6/2017 9:53 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

hopefully we will someday be able to use our lyrebird created voices with NVDA?




-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: [DECtalk] Lyrebird TTS, a demo is finally here!
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 12:20:01 -0400
From: Jayson Smith <jaybird@...>
Reply-To: DECtalk <dectalk@...>
To: DECtalk Discussions <dectalk@...>


Hi all,


A few months ago, I heard about Lyrebird, a future project which would 
allow anyone to create a synthetic clone of their own voice. Last night 
I found out that it's finally here, in an early beta form. If you go to 
http://lyrebird.ai and create an account, you can then record a minimum 
of thirty sentences they specify, the more you record the better, and 
then create your digital voice. Then you can have it speak any text you 
choose. I've played with it, and while the quality isn't the best, it 
does pretty accurately capture my voice, as well as most of the other 
people I know of who have created voices. Check it out!


Jayson


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