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Re: daisey translator for word help

Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...>
 

Hi,

Thanks for the suggestion. I will give it a try.

-----Original Message-----
From: zahra
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 8:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] daisey translator for word help

hi.
you can find it by search in the start menu.
hope that help, God bless you.

On 9/9/17, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Hi All,

I am using the latest windows office and nvda. Does anyone know how to use
the daisey translator for word? I know it is installed but, I can’t find it
while in word. Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks,Regards, Gary
kn4ox

--
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holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Kendall ap for windows

Don H
 

How well does NVDA work with the Windows Kendall App?  If you install the app and download a book from amazon is it self voicing or is it read via NVDA?

Thanks


word 2016 track changes and comments

Dave Bahr <dcbahr1@...>
 

Hi.

 

I am wondering how I can see track changes in Microsoft word 2016? I can tell that someone inserted or deleted something but not what the original was. Not even in browse mode. I also can’t right click on text that has a comment on it and edit it. It just says to make a new comment. Any ideas on this?

 

Thanks, Dave


Has anyone tested this addon?

 


I was wondering i anyone has tested the image description addon and how good is it?

From: Manshul Belani <manshulvbelani@...>
Reply-To:nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io


Hi All,

Dear All,

I have created an addon for NVDA which provides description for graphics/images present on the web pages. The add on uses Microsoft's Computer Vision cognitive API to get a description of the image provided to it. Please find below the steps to use the add on and the dropbox link to download it.

Steps to use add on:

Step 1: Generate a subscription key for using Microsoft Computer Vision cognitive API from the link below:

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/try/cognitive-services/

Please note that the key has to be created for the Computer Vision API. Currently Microsoft provides the option to create a trial key for 30 days.

Step 2: Download and Install the NVDA Addon named Assistech_IIT_Delhi from the link “” or from download button above.

For Addon installation instructions visithttps://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#toc94

 

Step 3: From the add-on menu, select the options add API key and provide your subscription key for the cognition API.

 

Step 4: If you are behind a proxy, from the add on menu (the add-on is named as Assistech_IIT_Delhi) , select the options add proxy details and provide your proxy IP and port. 

Step 3 and step 4 only need to be performed the first time or whenever either of your proxy details or subscription key changes.

 

Step 5: While navigating a webpage, whenever a graphic is encountered and is in focus, use keyboard shortcut NVDA+g. The image description and the confidence level returned b the API are provided as audio output. Use NVDA+gg to get the results (including the dominant colors present in the image) in a browseable message box. (Fetching results takes a few seconds.). If no result is obtained from API, appropriate speech message is returned.


I request you all to kindly test the add on and provide your feedback.

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Re: daisey translator for word help

 

hi.
you can find it by search in the start menu.
hope that help, God bless you.

On 9/9/17, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Hi All,

I am using the latest windows office and nvda. Does anyone know how to use
the daisey translator for word? I know it is installed but, I can’t find it
while in word. Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks,Regards, Gary
kn4ox
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: If I complete this withi 1-2 monthsn

Jacques Stassen <j@...>
 

No harshness detected. The points made speak of experience and being in touch with reality. Well put.

Jacques

On 09/09/2017 09:42, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Answer: no, no, no. Not only I say this to emphasize differences between ideal versus reality, but also because:
1. Developing a skill takes months and years. It took me four years to fully grasp the process NV Access uses when it comes to developing a new feature or coming up with a bug fix. I spent two years perfecting my C++ skills to a point where I can describe some things written in that language. It took me five years to learn essentials of technical communication and documentation efforts - I started out as a translator for NVDA, and my most recent work was writing DictationBridge add-on documentation from scratch with notes from two other people.
2. Keeping a skill alive requires constant practice and learning. If you truly want to be competitive with Python, you need to know the differences between Python 2 and 3, what's trending in Python libraries, limits of this programming language, and being able to apply what you learned in various contexts.
3. Personal philosophy: do not make money your god, an end product, or the ultimate reason why you want to learn Python. Money is a powerful thing; however, if you let money become your master, you'll find that you'll think more about how to earn more for less or sacrifice everything for financial gain. Do not make money an end product, as doing so could make your mind think you can do all sorts of things with it. Do not make money your ultimate goal for learning Python, because doing so will expose your body, mind and soul to one of the easiest ways to make mistakes in life because money isn't the ultimate answer to life's difficult questions.
Before you think more about Python, money, NVDA, NV Access and what not, I'd like to suggest that you sit back and think about the following questions carefully:
1. Do I think Python is easy? The answer to this question will reveal your attitudes about learning things.
2. Do I think money can buy me answers to life's questions? Be careful with answering this, as your conclusions will let you know what you're thinking about the ultimate goal.
3. Is NVDA the only Python project I can contribute to? If you answer "yes", then I think you might be learning Python for wrong reasons.
4. Can I just learn things by just sitting back and expecting someone to teach me? If you answer "yes", then please think about why you're doing this, as studying things doesn’t merely involve someone teaching you things.
5. Can I use whatever skill I have right now or things I'll learn in a month to contribute to NVDA, and if so, will NV Access take it? If your answer is "yes", then I want to see a proof of this and your potential to contribute "meaningful things" (yes, I put that in quotes).
6. Who will benefit most from my work? If you answer "me", then you're not ready for this journey. NVDA is a global project, hence whatever small change you contribute will have impact on people's lives. If you want a real-life example, take a look at how indentation announcement by tones (a simple idea but a difficult code segment) is changing people's lives.
I challenge you to think about and answer these questions in hopes that you'll realize the reality ahead. I am intentionally using this approach in order to foster critical thinking process; I'm known in the community for being kind and willing to describe in detail how things work, but there are times when I need to show you reality, and part of being a great software engineer is thinking things through, even on topics you might be afraid to go through such as ethics and purposes (even I had to and am still going through this process).
To others: sorry for a possible harshness in this message.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Jospeh
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Muklesur Rahman
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 12:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] If I complete this withi 1-2 monthsn
Hello Antony, if I can complete this python routing system, will I get job to nvaccess? If so, how much can I expect to earn?
Thank you.
On 9/7/17, Muklesur Rahman <muklesju@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Antony, I have just started python programming. I think within one
month, I will be able to reach in a competitive level. But could you
tell me how it can give me an opportunity to earn money?
Thank you.

On 9/6/17, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
How experienced are you with Python programming?


Antony.

On Wednesday 06 September 2017 at 00:59:42, mr. Chikodinaka
Nickarandidum Oguledo wrote:

any jobs with nvACCESS? or nvda I want2make money with NVDA
--
90% of networking problems are routing problems.
9 of the remaining 10% are routing problems in the other direction.
The remaining 1% might be something else, but check the routing anyway.

Please reply to
the list;
please
*don't* CC me.






Re: If I complete this withi 1-2 monthsn

 

Hi,
Answer: no, no, no. Not only I say this to emphasize differences between ideal versus reality, but also because:
1. Developing a skill takes months and years. It took me four years to fully grasp the process NV Access uses when it comes to developing a new feature or coming up with a bug fix. I spent two years perfecting my C++ skills to a point where I can describe some things written in that language. It took me five years to learn essentials of technical communication and documentation efforts - I started out as a translator for NVDA, and my most recent work was writing DictationBridge add-on documentation from scratch with notes from two other people.
2. Keeping a skill alive requires constant practice and learning. If you truly want to be competitive with Python, you need to know the differences between Python 2 and 3, what's trending in Python libraries, limits of this programming language, and being able to apply what you learned in various contexts.
3. Personal philosophy: do not make money your god, an end product, or the ultimate reason why you want to learn Python. Money is a powerful thing; however, if you let money become your master, you'll find that you'll think more about how to earn more for less or sacrifice everything for financial gain. Do not make money an end product, as doing so could make your mind think you can do all sorts of things with it. Do not make money your ultimate goal for learning Python, because doing so will expose your body, mind and soul to one of the easiest ways to make mistakes in life because money isn't the ultimate answer to life's difficult questions.
Before you think more about Python, money, NVDA, NV Access and what not, I'd like to suggest that you sit back and think about the following questions carefully:
1. Do I think Python is easy? The answer to this question will reveal your attitudes about learning things.
2. Do I think money can buy me answers to life's questions? Be careful with answering this, as your conclusions will let you know what you're thinking about the ultimate goal.
3. Is NVDA the only Python project I can contribute to? If you answer "yes", then I think you might be learning Python for wrong reasons.
4. Can I just learn things by just sitting back and expecting someone to teach me? If you answer "yes", then please think about why you're doing this, as studying things doesn’t merely involve someone teaching you things.
5. Can I use whatever skill I have right now or things I'll learn in a month to contribute to NVDA, and if so, will NV Access take it? If your answer is "yes", then I want to see a proof of this and your potential to contribute "meaningful things" (yes, I put that in quotes).
6. Who will benefit most from my work? If you answer "me", then you're not ready for this journey. NVDA is a global project, hence whatever small change you contribute will have impact on people's lives. If you want a real-life example, take a look at how indentation announcement by tones (a simple idea but a difficult code segment) is changing people's lives.
I challenge you to think about and answer these questions in hopes that you'll realize the reality ahead. I am intentionally using this approach in order to foster critical thinking process; I'm known in the community for being kind and willing to describe in detail how things work, but there are times when I need to show you reality, and part of being a great software engineer is thinking things through, even on topics you might be afraid to go through such as ethics and purposes (even I had to and am still going through this process).
To others: sorry for a possible harshness in this message.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Jospeh

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Muklesur Rahman
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 12:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] If I complete this withi 1-2 monthsn

Hello Antony, if I can complete this python routing system, will I get job to nvaccess? If so, how much can I expect to earn?
Thank you.

On 9/7/17, Muklesur Rahman <muklesju@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Antony, I have just started python programming. I think within one
month, I will be able to reach in a competitive level. But could you
tell me how it can give me an opportunity to earn money?
Thank you.

On 9/6/17, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
How experienced are you with Python programming?


Antony.

On Wednesday 06 September 2017 at 00:59:42, mr. Chikodinaka
Nickarandidum Oguledo wrote:

any jobs with nvACCESS? or nvda I want2make money with NVDA
--
90% of networking problems are routing problems.
9 of the remaining 10% are routing problems in the other direction.
The remaining 1% might be something else, but check the routing anyway.

Please reply to
the list;
please
*don't* CC me.






If I complete this withi 1-2 monthsn

Muklesur Rahman
 

Hello Antony, if I can complete this python routing system, will I get
job to nvaccess? If so, how much can I expect to earn?
Thank you.

On 9/7/17, Muklesur Rahman <muklesju@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Antony, I have just started python programming. I think within one
month, I will be able to reach in a competitive level. But could you
tell me how it can give me an opportunity to earn money?
Thank you.

On 9/6/17, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
How experienced are you with Python programming?


Antony.

On Wednesday 06 September 2017 at 00:59:42, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum
Oguledo wrote:

any jobs with nvACCESS? or nvda I want2make money with NVDA
--
90% of networking problems are routing problems.
9 of the remaining 10% are routing problems in the other direction.
The remaining 1% might be something else, but check the routing anyway.

Please reply to the
list;
please *don't*
CC
me.






daisey translator for word help

Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...>
 

Hi All,
 
I am using the latest windows office and nvda.  Does anyone know how to use the daisey translator for word?  I know it is installed but, I can’t find it while in word.  Any help would be most appreciated.  Thanks,Regards, Gary kn4ox


Re: How useable is spotify? with nvda

David Griffith
 

As I say I do not use any feature but searching ffor albums and and tracks and then playing them.

Occasionally I re-enter the search for a particular album and replay it that way.

I have never “saved” albums so have not come across this limitation which I am sure it annoying for you.

What benefit is there for saving by the way?

 

I tend to only use Spotify for trying out a particular artist or track rather than using it as a main Music source. I still prefer to have my music in real media files away from streaming limitations and without the need to pay subscriptions.

 

 

David Griffith

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Matt Turner
Sent: 08 September 2017 16:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How useable is spotify? with nvda

 

Hmm, the trouble I'm having, is that I've saved albums in spotify.

Now when going to my albums, i only see something about a grid. With both NVDA and Jaws.

 

On 9/8/2017 10:52 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Coincidentally I tried out Spotify Desktop with NVDA  yesterday.

 

The major problem is that NVDA could not detect the search edit box. Oddly Jaws can do this though what you have to do is enter the search edit box  twice. That is press E to find the edit box, then press space or enter, then repeat the process. The second time the edit box will allow text to be entered and a search conducted.

 

I only use Spotify for searching for Artists and then playing albums or tracks by that artist. You can do this with Jaws and you would also be able to do this with NVDA if only the inability to detect the edit  box could be fixed. Once  a search had been completed with Jaws I found no difficulty using NVDA to play content.

 

David Griffith

 

 

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: 08 September 2017 10:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How useable is spotify? with nvda

 

I don't know how useable the desktop app is.  You can experiment.  The player you can use on the site itself, which comes up and plays automatically when you play something is accessible.  I don't know how many other features on the page, following other users, creating playlists, are accessible.  You can play albums or individual tracks and playlists others have made. 

 

I'm not sure if the desktop app provides better audio.  The free Internet site player produces alright audio, but if you are using good equipment, you will hear a certain amount of thinness because it doesn't use all that high a bit rate for the free version.  I don’t know if the player currently uses Flash or html5.

 

There are keystrokes for moving through a track and from jumping forward or backward from one track to another.  I don't remember what they are on the web site.  Don't ever try to change the volume in the web player.  I don't know if it has been fixed but when I tried it a long time ago, it didn't work correctly and got stuck on a very low volume. 

 

The old desktop player may be easier to use than the newer desktop player.  You have to use object navigation.  The newer desktop player doesn't require object navigation.  It's more or less a web pag3e Interface but when I tried it a good while ago, a good deal of it wasn't properly accessible. and it appeared to me that some or many features couldn't be used. it will constantly upgrade itself unless you are successful in stopping it from doing so using a procedure I saw in a discussion forum.  If you want to experiment with the perhaps two or three years old player, let me know.  In that player, most features are inaccessible but you can listen to music and move among tracks and within tracks.  When I compared, the free version produced a little better audio than the web player free version and a little better audio than the free newer desktop application.   To me, the improvement mattered.   

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:58 AM

Subject: [nvda] How useable is spotify? with nvda

 

Hi guys

 

Has any one on the list use spotify through the browser or desk top app and if so how useable was it with nvda?

 

I just had a quick look i think it is the web version and seems useable. I would have to look around a bit more it is the free version of it.

 

If it is fairly useable has any one on the list done a tutorial for it? either written or audio? If there is one could you point me in the right direction please.

 

Gene nz

 

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Resource Monitor 17.09, last version to support Windows XP #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

Resource Monitor 17.09 is now available:

https://github.com/josephsl/resourceMonitor/releases/tag/17.09

 

Note: Resource Monitor 17.09.x is the last version to support Windows XP. Future versions will require Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1, Windows Vista Service Pack 2 or later. As for this being 17.09.x, that’s because the stable build number for Windows 10 Fall Creators Update isn’t available yet, and once it makes its appearance, the add-on will be updated to recognize that build as Windows 10 Version 1709.

 

For Windows XP users: as you install Resource Monitor 17.09, a notice informing you that support for this version of Windows will end this December will be shown. Complete support for Windows XP will end no later than Resource Monitor 17.12 release, scheduled for Thanksgiving weekend in the united States (fourth weekend of November), at which time the add-on will refuse to install on unsupported Windows releases.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Using the mouse

Lino Morales
 

NV Access does indeed have a sighted dev. Raif Turner.

On 9/8/2017 10:29 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
This is where you need a sighted developer I feel.
If I was using the mouse as a blind person, the last thing I'd want is the link to be selected unless I wanted it to be.
There are still web page writers out there though who have the only text attached to links as click here or in some kases just the word here.
Or worse still an unlabelled graphic.
This is a funtion that could be on a toggle of some kind perhaps to allow you to hear the word link but only have its function around when on that indication, and not stop the sense of the sentence when reading using the mouse. I'd guess wikipedia would actual sound sensible then.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adriani Botez" <adriani.botez@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the mouse


That would be really nice if someone would fix that. Also there are big issues when using the mouse in chrome. In firefox works better. But some webpages have areas which can only be accessed with the mouse, especially if a tool is programmed with java using inaccessible api. It would help if the mouse feature worked reliably in every browser.


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 08.09.2017 um 02:45 schrieb Jim Pipczak <jim.pipczak@visionaustralia.org>:

Thanks Q.

Jim.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, 8 September 2017 10:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the mouse

Hi Jim,

You are right, there are issues with reading with the mouse.  I did a bit of testing a little while ago on this issue: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3590 but I don't think anyone has started work to fix it yet.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 8:56 AM, Jim Pipczak <jim.pipczak@visionaustralia.org> wrote:
Hi all,

Being partially sighted I tend to use the physical mouse a lot to read bits and pieces until I find what I want.

When reading a line of text that has a link in it, NVDA only reads up to the link. You then need to move the pointer to the link to hear what it is.
Is there a way to make it read the entire line of text regardless of any links in the line? My mouse is set to paragraph but it made no difference setting it to
line.

Thanks,
Jim






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Re: tutorial or podcast on the oj pad add on?

Lino Morales
 

Their is. Ask Joseph.

On 9/7/2017 6:12 PM, The Wolf wrote:
Hello is there any ttutorial or podcast on the oj pad add on that I can listen to?

thanks

Hank



Re: NVDA constantly repeating icons on the desktop

Lino Morales
 

Good point. I stay in my Thunderbird inbox for my Spectrum email 100 percent of the time when the machine is on.


On 9/7/2017 4:36 PM, Gene wrote:
It makes more sense to just turn off speech in your screen-reader.  Both JAWS and NVDA have commands to turn off speech.  I would imagine other full feature screen-readers do as well.  If not, simply go to the start menu by pressing the Windows key once, then pressing escape.  You will be on the start button.  We don't know what is causing the problem.  Unselecting the item may or may not stop the behavior, but then you have the inconvenience of having to remember to select it again if you want to use it when you return to the computer.  It's better to just turn off speech or not be on the desktop altogether since unselecting and then reselecting something is so foreign to what is generally done.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA constantly repeating icons on the desktop

Hi Sarah:

If you are leaving your system on for a long time during which you are
not using it, you can try going to your desktop and pressing
control-spacebar.  This will unselect everything on the desktop.
Kevin Huber

On 9/6/17, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
> I disabled my touch pad and it still does it every on ce in a while. Ic
> annot reproduce all the time though. It is an odd one. Sorry about typing. I
> just got done practicing for a tournament and my hands hurt.
>
> Take care all.
>> On Sep 5, 2017, at 12:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
>> <bglists@...> wrote:
>>
>> No if these are normal icons then it should not be doing it. Has the
>> machine got a mouse attached or one of those pesky touch pads or a little
>> joystick in the keyboard as seen on some laptops. I've had those suddenly
>> do silly things and move the mouse about for no good reason.
>> if it worked ok before the update there has been no changes that should
>> make any difference to the desktop that I can think of.
>> What happens if you tab to other parts of the screen like the start button
>> does it drag focus away to the desktop again?
>> Brian
>>
>> bglists@... <mailto:bglists@...>
>> Sent via blueyonder.
>> Please address personal email to:-
>> briang1@... <mailto:briang1@...>, putting 'Brian
>> Gaff'
>> in the display name field.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...
>> <mailto:jldail13@...>>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 7:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA constantly repeating icons on the desktop
>>
>>
>> Hi
>> Is it a bug? How can it be fixed? It’s really annoying.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 5, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> I get this repeating after returning from sleep mode where NVDA keeps
>>> repeating the name associated with the icon that happens to have focus.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 9/5/2017 12:16 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
>>>> No that is not normal unless the  image is constantly being redrawn.
>>>> That seems an unlikely event.
>>>> I had something like this once in XP with aa clever special icon that
>>>> had a timer inside it but apart from that not seen it.
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> bglists@...
>>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>>> Please address personal email to:-
>>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>>> in the display name field.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...>
>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 4:04 PM
>>>> Subject: [nvda] NVDA constantly repeating icons on the desktop
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm having an interesting issue with NVDA 2017.3.
>>>>>
>>>>> When on my desktop, if I don't move, NVDA constantly repeats the name
>>>>> of the
>>>>> icon that currently has focus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this normal?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone tell me how to fix it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jessica
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>





Re: nvda saying unknow when ever I try to view the start minue?

Lino Morales
 

Will you have to type in this command using 64 instead of 322 if you have a 64 bit version of WIN 10 like I do?


On 9/7/2017 3:45 PM, Chris wrote:

Have a look at this message

https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/21880

 

 

From: The Wolf
Sent: 07 September 2017 19:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda saying unknow when ever I try to view the start minue?

 

Hello I think this is been mentioned on the list before but am not sure

 

this just started happening out of the blue

 

when ever I try to view the start minue n vda says unknown

 

this just started happening out of the blue

 

I tried removing nvda and also removed the nvda folder under the app

data and roming section and reinstalled nvda with same results

 

is there a fix fore this?

 

thanks

 

Hank

 

 

 

 

 



Re: nvda and citrix environments?

Rui Fontes
 

Wrong place why?

Rui Fontes


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De: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Data: 8 de setembro de 2017 15:52
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Assunto: Re: [nvda] nvda and citrix environments?

Wrong place to ask I'd imagine

I've certainly not heard of any of this thus far, and with the departure of
Jamie I'd wait a bit to see how the programming team ends up.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:35 PM
Subject: [nvda] nvda and citrix environments?


hello

does nvda support citrix environments and software for workplaces and
businesses yet? Also any plans to add network installs for NVDA for
businesses?


thanks


Josh


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Re: nvda and citrix environments?

Adriani Botez
 

I have created some issues regarding to this on gidhub some months ago. It seens like there is not enough concentration on this topic although it would improve thousants of work places worldwide. I wonder if there were any discussions with citrix itself on this topic at all. But we hope this topic gain more attention iin the future.

Best
Adriani


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Am 08.09.2017 um 15:35 schrieb Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>:

hello

does nvda support citrix environments and software for workplaces and businesses yet? Also any plans to add network installs for NVDA for businesses?


thanks


Josh


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Re: How useable is spotify? with nvda

Matt Turner
 

Hmm, the trouble I'm having, is that I've saved albums in spotify.

Now when going to my albums, i only see something about a grid. With both NVDA and Jaws.


On 9/8/2017 10:52 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Coincidentally I tried out Spotify Desktop with NVDA  yesterday.

 

The major problem is that NVDA could not detect the search edit box. Oddly Jaws can do this though what you have to do is enter the search edit box  twice. That is press E to find the edit box, then press space or enter, then repeat the process. The second time the edit box will allow text to be entered and a search conducted.

 

I only use Spotify for searching for Artists and then playing albums or tracks by that artist. You can do this with Jaws and you would also be able to do this with NVDA if only the inability to detect the edit  box could be fixed. Once  a search had been completed with Jaws I found no difficulty using NVDA to play content.

 

David Griffith

 

 

 

 

 

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From: Gene
Sent: 08 September 2017 10:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How useable is spotify? with nvda

 

I don't know how useable the desktop app is.  You can experiment.  The player you can use on the site itself, which comes up and plays automatically when you play something is accessible.  I don't know how many other features on the page, following other users, creating playlists, are accessible.  You can play albums or individual tracks and playlists others have made. 

 

I'm not sure if the desktop app provides better audio.  The free Internet site player produces alright audio, but if you are using good equipment, you will hear a certain amount of thinness because it doesn't use all that high a bit rate for the free version.  I don’t know if the player currently uses Flash or html5.

 

There are keystrokes for moving through a track and from jumping forward or backward from one track to another.  I don't remember what they are on the web site.  Don't ever try to change the volume in the web player.  I don't know if it has been fixed but when I tried it a long time ago, it didn't work correctly and got stuck on a very low volume. 

 

The old desktop player may be easier to use than the newer desktop player.  You have to use object navigation.  The newer desktop player doesn't require object navigation.  It's more or less a web pag3e Interface but when I tried it a good while ago, a good deal of it wasn't properly accessible. and it appeared to me that some or many features couldn't be used. it will constantly upgrade itself unless you are successful in stopping it from doing so using a procedure I saw in a discussion forum.  If you want to experiment with the perhaps two or three years old player, let me know.  In that player, most features are inaccessible but you can listen to music and move among tracks and within tracks.  When I compared, the free version produced a little better audio than the web player free version and a little better audio than the free newer desktop application.   To me, the improvement mattered.   

 

Gene

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Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:58 AM

Subject: [nvda] How useable is spotify? with nvda

 

Hi guys

 

Has any one on the list use spotify through the browser or desk top app and if so how useable was it with nvda?

 

I just had a quick look i think it is the web version and seems useable. I would have to look around a bit more it is the free version of it.

 

If it is fairly useable has any one on the list done a tutorial for it? either written or audio? If there is one could you point me in the right direction please.

 

Gene nz

 

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Re: image descriptions

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Yes, but I assume as its a trial from Microsoft, does this mean they are going to sell the service.
Secondly is this maybe what Microsoft are using in their seeing AI Apple I phone app?
If it is and its going to be charged for its a bit mean to be not saying so, and giving the app away for nothing.

I think this is one the author should be running to the add on community and the devs of nvda with as the latter may well have the ear of Microsoft more than we do.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] image descriptions


hey it would be cool if this addon were taken one step further. use
cognitive API to recognise any object in windows show in a browse mode
buffer and be able to click stuff in that object.


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Re: nvda and citrix environments?

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Wrong place to ask I'd imagine

I've certainly not heard of any of this thus far, and with the departure of Jamie I'd wait a bit to see how the programming team ends up.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:35 PM
Subject: [nvda] nvda and citrix environments?


hello

does nvda support citrix environments and software for workplaces and
businesses yet? Also any plans to add network installs for NVDA for
businesses?


thanks


Josh


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