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Re: nvda developers please help me about my favorite version of nvda!

Gene
 

I'm not sure what you are saying.  My first comment was a criticism of the attitude that everyone should stop using XP when, my point is, some people can't.  I also said that the developers have supported XP for so long because they recognize that enough users can't upgrade from XP that they wanted to continue support.  They have supported XP far longer than other screen-readers.  They are stopping support because continued support is impractical because of ongoing technical changes in Windows 10.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite version of nvda!

Well presumably the NVDA devs have the same viewpoint, since they no longer support XP.

 

That argument is counterproductive.  I know they can’t support XP, but if that was a view, then they would do their very best to continue its support.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 11 September 2017 21:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite version of nvda!

 

So, in your view of the world, poor countries don't exist and everyone can just go out and get a more modern computer and if they don't, its their own damn fault.  Are you aware that even according to the developers own statements, one of the important reasons NVDA was developed was to serve those who couldn't afford to buy for profit screen-readers?  Why do you think XP has been supported so long by NVDA?  Because the developers recognize that many users can't get access to newer machines with more modern versions of Windows.

 

Also, do you read your messages before you send them?  Some of your message was unintelligible  though I gather it was about XP being a vector to spread a virus and a good deal else in your message was really sloppy with blatant typographical errors.  If you are angry and make all sorts of mistakes, that is particularly the time to read your message before sending it an correcting it.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

A good deal of your message was almost unintelliggible and I hardly know what a sentence or two was trying to say.  If you are angry and just From: Lino Morales

Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 2:33 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite version of nvda!

 

Sure it is. Time ti get off the XP train. If you don't its your own damn fault. Theier was a cute little the world famous Patric Perdue sand with the help of DecTalk Virus. I'm sticking with WIN 10 and NVDA 2020 if I'm alive in 2020 when its released. I'm done. Now, but NVDA 2017.3 discusion.

 

On 9/10/2017 8:50 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:

there's a good 5 or 6 years before 7 is too old...
And "Suck it up buttercup" is very understanding and helpful to people asking for help...
On 9/10/2017 3:24 PM, Arlene wrote:

Perhaps this person may have a language barrier. I don’t know what her story is. yes that person’s going to be left behind. I know sooner or later 7 is going to go out just like xp.  I’m going to learn ten before 7 becomes a sinking ship.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: September-10-17 3:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite version of nvda!

 

I think 2 things. One their is a language barier or 2. This person is 2 chicken nuggits shy of a happy meal. Suck it up butter cup. Either get off the XP train or get left behinsd. Windows 10. Its good for you.

 

On 9/10/2017 6:01 PM, Gene wrote:

Perhaps a paradox is an example.  Two contradictory statements can't both be true although, they can both seem to be until the problem causing such an appearance is resolved.  for example, is light a wave or a particle?  For years, that was a serious problem in quantum mechanics until theories and models were developed that accounted for both observations. 

 

Gene

------ Original Message -----

From: Antony Stone

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:20 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite version of nvda!

 

I've often wondered about this.

Surely a profound truth is a correct statement.

So, if the opposite of that correct statement is a false statement, how can it
be another profound truth?


Antony.

On Sunday 10 September 2017 at 19:15:11, Brian Vogel wrote:

> The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.
>
> But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

--
"The future is already here.   It's just not evenly distributed yet."

 - William Gibson

                                                   Please reply to the list;
                                                         please *don't* CC me.


 

 

 


Re: nvda developers please help me about my favorite version of nvda!

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Actually one big problem today is that some emails are going out with no text version and in some instances this can make cutting and pasting content very hard to format. I do this a lot for talking newspaper scripts to read each week. another reason why I never use on line email. You can set up the old outlook Express to only see the text version or go back and forth, very handy indeed for my situation.


Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite version of nvda!


To my knowledge, and after doing some web research, it is not possible to make the Gmail web interface do forced conversions to plain text when a message has been sent in HTML format. This actually makes sense since so much actual information is often contained in HTML elements like click-through links that are part of an image and similar.

You can choose to compose in plain text, but even that has become more difficult to set up since HTML formatted messages have become the de facto standard.
--
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* * *The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.* * But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another* * profound truth.*

* ~ * *Niels Bohr*


Re: Can any one suggest how to reinstall keysoft to apex braillenote bt using pc and how to create a custom unicode braille table using pc?

 

Hi,
Although the KeySoft question is meant for BrailleNote mailing list, I advise using a USB flash drive, copy the. Hwi file for 9.5 to the flash drive, then plug in the flash drive to your Apex, copy the .hwi to the flash disk and install it from there.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Muklesur Rahman
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 9:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Can any one suggest how to reinstall keysoft to apex braillenote bt using pc and how to create a custom unicode braille table using pc?

Hello groups, I am using apex braille note bt and some of files are deleted from my braillenote. So, I want to reinstall keysoft version
9.5 that I am using. I have no hd card reader. Is it possible to reinstall my key soft using my pc? Another matter, I want to create a custom unicode braille table for Bengali language. Is it possible to edit unicode braille table or create a new unicode table using pc?
Thank you.


Re: Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Does the same thing happen in other browsers and in browse mode in pdf reader. if things are a bit shot then you win the prize of the monty for uninstalling a program that de registered loads of dll files that windows uses for accessability.

I think if this is yet another one of these people folk, we need to have this fix signposted widely all the time as it seems its becoming a common issue with Windows even brand new computers seem to have it.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 4:50 PM
Subject: [nvda] Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?


Hello,

Does anyone else have this problem:

Start the latest stable NVDA, open the latest Firefox, restart NVDA, try to
arrow through the Firefox page. The arrow keys don’t work, just the tab key.

Thank you,


Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>


Re: nvda developers please help me about my favorite version of nvda!

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Its not as if they have left XP users with a lame version after all. its well good enough to be used daily. I think the only way this person is going to get what they want is to find soem programmers willing to do the required work, that would depend on a huge number of nvda users wanting the updates to continue. it is after all open source but it would need to be a completely different branch of the code, also hanging on to the legacy tools to build it as well.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@comproom.co.uk>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite version of nvda!


Well presumably the NVDA devs have the same viewpoint, since they no longer
support XP.



That argument is counterproductive. I know they can't support XP, but if
that was a view, then they would do their very best to continue its support.



All the best



Steve



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 11 September 2017 21:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite version
of nvda!



So, in your view of the world, poor countries don't exist and everyone can
just go out and get a more modern computer and if they don't, its their own
damn fault. Are you aware that even according to the developers own
statements, one of the important reasons NVDA was developed was to serve
those who couldn't afford to buy for profit screen-readers? Why do you
think XP has been supported so long by NVDA? Because the developers
recognize that many users can't get access to newer machines with more
modern versions of Windows.



Also, do you read your messages before you send them? Some of your message
was unintelligible though I gather it was about XP being a vector to spread
a virus and a good deal else in your message was really sloppy with blatant
typographical errors. If you are angry and make all sorts of mistakes, that
is particularly the time to read your message before sending it an
correcting it.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

A good deal of your message was almost unintelliggible and I hardly know
what a sentence or two was trying to say. If you are angry and just From:
Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@gmail.com>

Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 2:33 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite version
of nvda!



Sure it is. Time ti get off the XP train. If you don't its your own damn
fault. Theier was a cute little the world famous Patric Perdue sand with the
help of DecTalk Virus. I'm sticking with WIN 10 and NVDA 2020 if I'm alive
in 2020 when its released. I'm done. Now, but NVDA 2017.3 discusion.



On 9/10/2017 8:50 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:

there's a good 5 or 6 years before 7 is too old...
And "Suck it up buttercup" is very understanding and helpful to people
asking for help...
On 9/10/2017 3:24 PM, Arlene wrote:

Perhaps this person may have a language barrier. I don't know what her story
is. yes that person's going to be left behind. I know sooner or later 7 is
going to go out just like xp. I'm going to learn ten before 7 becomes a
sinking ship.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: September-10-17 3:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite version
of nvda!



I think 2 things. One their is a language barier or 2. This person is 2
chicken nuggits shy of a happy meal. Suck it up butter cup. Either get off
the XP train or get left behinsd. Windows 10. Its good for you.



On 9/10/2017 6:01 PM, Gene wrote:

Perhaps a paradox is an example. Two contradictory statements can't both be
true although, they can both seem to be until the problem causing such an
appearance is resolved. for example, is light a wave or a particle? For
years, that was a serious problem in quantum mechanics until theories and
models were developed that accounted for both observations.



Gene

------ Original Message -----

From: Antony Stone <mailto:antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it>

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:20 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite version
of nvda!



I've often wondered about this.

Surely a profound truth is a correct statement.

So, if the opposite of that correct statement is a false statement, how can
it
be another profound truth?


Antony.

On Sunday 10 September 2017 at 19:15:11, Brian Vogel wrote:

The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.

But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.
--
"The future is already here. It's just not evenly distributed yet."

- William Gibson

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC
me.













Re: News regarding Firefox.

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I have not the foggiest idea, but if they have fixed it one supposes it affects enough to make it need fixing.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] News regarding Firefox.


I'm just waking up so this is the first message of the day. I won't download V 56. Now the question I have and I've not seen it addressed on the WWIN 10 list is does this focus issue happen with JAWS 18?


On 9/12/2017 7:16 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Just got an email from the Mozilla team about the focus issue in Firefox 56, It cannot be sorted in 56, but has been addressed in 57 apparently so the advice for us has to be wait for 57, and don't updat to 56 unless you enjoy having to move focus from the wrong place back to the page every time you use it.

I was looking for a meaning full place to put this info but I cannot find one.
Brian

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Re: News regarding Firefox.

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Ryan VanderMeulen [:RyanVM]changed Bug 1394207 at 2017-09-11 10:12:21 PDT:

status-firefox56
affected
wontfix


Product/Component: Firefox :: General

Tracking Flags:
. status-firefox-esr52:unaffected
. status-firefox55:unaffected
. tracking-firefox56:-
. status-firefox56:wontfix
. status-firefox57:fixed



Short and to the point!
Brian
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 12:16 PM
Subject: [nvda] News regarding Firefox.


Just got an email from the Mozilla team about the focus issue in Firefox 56, It cannot be sorted in 56, but has been addressed in 57 apparently so the advice for us has to be wait for 57, and don't updat to 56 unless you enjoy having to move focus from the wrong place back to the page every time you use it.

I was looking for a meaning full place to put this info but I cannot find one.
Brian

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Re: nvda developers please help me about my favorite version of nvda!

 

To my knowledge, and after doing some web research, it is not possible to make the Gmail web interface do forced conversions to plain text when a message has been sent in HTML format.  This actually makes sense since so much actual information is often contained in HTML elements like click-through links that are part of an image and similar.

You can choose to compose in plain text, but even that has become more difficult to set up since HTML formatted messages have become the de facto standard.
--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063  (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

            Niels Bohr

 

 


Can any one suggest how to reinstall keysoft to apex braillenote bt using pc and how to create a custom unicode braille table using pc?

Muklesur Rahman
 

Hello groups, I am using apex braille note bt and some of files are
deleted from my braillenote. So, I want to reinstall keysoft version
9.5 that I am using. I have no hd card reader. Is it possible to
reinstall my key soft using my pc? Another matter, I want to create a
custom unicode braille table for Bengali language. Is it possible to
edit unicode braille table or create a new unicode table using pc?
Thank you.


Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?

 

Hello,

Does anyone else have this problem:

Start the latest stable NVDA, open the latest Firefox, restart NVDA, try to arrow through the Firefox page. The arrow keys don’t work, just the tab key.

Thank you,



WebAIM

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

Will be good to NVDA promotion if all NVDA users fill the survey!
For TalkBack users, the survey is also about mobile usage!


http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey7/

Best regards,

Rui Fontes


Re: nvda developers please help me about my favorite version of nvda!

Steve Nutt
 

Well presumably the NVDA devs have the same viewpoint, since they no longer support XP.

 

That argument is counterproductive.  I know they can’t support XP, but if that was a view, then they would do their very best to continue its support.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 11 September 2017 21:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite version of nvda!

 

So, in your view of the world, poor countries don't exist and everyone can just go out and get a more modern computer and if they don't, its their own damn fault.  Are you aware that even according to the developers own statements, one of the important reasons NVDA was developed was to serve those who couldn't afford to buy for profit screen-readers?  Why do you think XP has been supported so long by NVDA?  Because the developers recognize that many users can't get access to newer machines with more modern versions of Windows.

 

Also, do you read your messages before you send them?  Some of your message was unintelligible  though I gather it was about XP being a vector to spread a virus and a good deal else in your message was really sloppy with blatant typographical errors.  If you are angry and make all sorts of mistakes, that is particularly the time to read your message before sending it an correcting it.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

A good deal of your message was almost unintelliggible and I hardly know what a sentence or two was trying to say.  If you are angry and just From: Lino Morales

Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 2:33 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite version of nvda!

 

Sure it is. Time ti get off the XP train. If you don't its your own damn fault. Theier was a cute little the world famous Patric Perdue sand with the help of DecTalk Virus. I'm sticking with WIN 10 and NVDA 2020 if I'm alive in 2020 when its released. I'm done. Now, but NVDA 2017.3 discusion.

 

On 9/10/2017 8:50 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:

there's a good 5 or 6 years before 7 is too old...
And "Suck it up buttercup" is very understanding and helpful to people asking for help...
On 9/10/2017 3:24 PM, Arlene wrote:

Perhaps this person may have a language barrier. I don’t know what her story is. yes that person’s going to be left behind. I know sooner or later 7 is going to go out just like xp.  I’m going to learn ten before 7 becomes a sinking ship.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: September-10-17 3:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite version of nvda!

 

I think 2 things. One their is a language barier or 2. This person is 2 chicken nuggits shy of a happy meal. Suck it up butter cup. Either get off the XP train or get left behinsd. Windows 10. Its good for you.

 

On 9/10/2017 6:01 PM, Gene wrote:

Perhaps a paradox is an example.  Two contradictory statements can't both be true although, they can both seem to be until the problem causing such an appearance is resolved.  for example, is light a wave or a particle?  For years, that was a serious problem in quantum mechanics until theories and models were developed that accounted for both observations. 

 

Gene

------ Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:20 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite version of nvda!

 

I've often wondered about this.

Surely a profound truth is a correct statement.

So, if the opposite of that correct statement is a false statement, how can it
be another profound truth?


Antony.

On Sunday 10 September 2017 at 19:15:11, Brian Vogel wrote:

> The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.
>
> But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

--
"The future is already here.   It's just not evenly distributed yet."

 - William Gibson

                                                   Please reply to the list;
                                                         please *don't* CC me.


 

 

 


Re: Error with latest update

Tyler Spivey
 

No. This is NVDA, not NVDA Remote.

On 9/12/2017 6:38 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,

Tyler, any ideas?

Cheers,

Joseph



*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Jonathan Milam
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 12, 2017 4:15 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Error with latest update



Hi All,



I am getting the following error with the latest version of NVDA with
the remote add-on.



---------------------------

nvdaHelperRemote (outprocMgrThreadFunc)

---------------------------

Error registering focus winEvent hook

---------------------------

Any ideas?



Thanks,

Jonathan---------------------------


Re: Error with latest update

 

Hi,

Tyler, any ideas?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 4:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Error with latest update

 

Hi All,

 

I am getting the following error with the latest version of NVDA with the remote add-on.

 

---------------------------

nvdaHelperRemote (outprocMgrThreadFunc)

---------------------------

Error registering focus winEvent hook

---------------------------

Any ideas?

 

Thanks,

Jonathan---------------------------


Re: would like to make malay language braile table, need guidance

kavein thran
 

thanks

On 9/12/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Kavein,

Firstly thank you for your interest in helping out!

NVDA uses Braille tables from Liblouis: http://liblouis.org/

Information on creating new tables is available from:
http://liblouis.org/documentation/liblouis.html

While NVDA isn't always on the latest build of Liblous, we are endeavouring
to keep it more up to date than it has been previously.

Knowing we have users with an interest in a particular language, as and
when you get Malay added and in a new LibLouis version, let me know (either
on here or write to info@nvaccess.org) and I'll make a special effort to
get us on the same version as soon as possible for you.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 8:40 PM, kavein thran <kaveinthran@gmail.com>
wrote:

hi friends,
I am a braille display user from malaysia and I find it frustrating to
see that my language braille code is not currently alive. How to make
a braile table for a particular language and have it supported and
declared universal?

thanks




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
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Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: Nvda Scripting and virtual document

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Sampa,

A couple of places to investigate

If you are just getting in to writing NVD add-ons, Joseph Lee, one of our very talented and prolific contributors has just started a learning course with its own group.  Send an email to Nvda+devlearning+subscribe@groups.io to join.


There is also the regular NVDA developers group (different to the other one): Nvda-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Sampa <scratchoun8@...> wrote:
Hi,

I'm a new NVDA user, and an old JAWS scripter. At work, I have to use internal application with IE. For some of these applications, I would like to access quickly to a particular element (for example a form field, or a paragraph) with a keystroke. 
With JAWS I used to get the id of this formfield and then set the focus on it.
As I am a beginner, I don't know how to begin my plugin. Which class and function should I use to catch the DOM object, or is there another way to proceed?
I've read a lot of things on this list and in the developper guide, but I could'nt find anything.

Thank you for your help.

Best regards




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: would like to make malay language braile table, need guidance

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Kavein,

Firstly thank you for your interest in helping out!

NVDA uses Braille tables from Liblouis: http://liblouis.org/

Information on creating new tables is available from: http://liblouis.org/documentation/liblouis.html

While NVDA isn't always on the latest build of Liblous, we are endeavouring to keep it more up to date than it has been previously.

Knowing we have users with an interest in a particular language, as and when you get Malay added and in a new LibLouis version, let me know (either on here or write to info@...) and I'll make a special effort to get us on the same version as soon as possible for you.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 8:40 PM, kavein thran <kaveinthran@...> wrote:
hi friends,
I am a braille display user from malaysia and I find it frustrating to
see that my language braille code is not currently alive. How to make
a braile table for a particular language and have it supported and
declared universal?

thanks






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Nvda Scripting and virtual document

Sampa <scratchoun8@...>
 

Hi,

I'm a new NVDA user, and an old JAWS scripter. At work, I have to use internal application with IE. For some of these applications, I would like to access quickly to a particular element (for example a form field, or a paragraph) with a keystroke. 
With JAWS I used to get the id of this formfield and then set the focus on it.
As I am a beginner, I don't know how to begin my plugin. Which class and function should I use to catch the DOM object, or is there another way to proceed?
I've read a lot of things on this list and in the developper guide, but I could'nt find anything.

Thank you for your help.

Best regards


Re: nvda developers please help me about my favorite version of nvda!

Gene
 

I don't use GMail and I don't know the procedure.  others likely know.  Regardless, if you don't allow scripts to run in your browser and don't allow images to download in your browser settings, you will have accomplished the same thing.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 3:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite version of nvda!

hi gene.
could you please teach me how to open some emails in plane text?
i only use web interface of gmail and dont know how to change someemails not open in html format.
Allah bless you, his infinite mercy and graces i pray for you.

On 9/12/17, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
> Oh okay. that's good to know. I've seen mute the thread. At the end of
> these
> messages.
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> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: September-11-17 3:18 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite
> version
> of nvda!
>
>
>
> You can mute any thread if you read any message in that thread as HTML.
> There is a mute link at the bottom of messages.  You may not see it if you
> read mail as plain text.  You will definitely see it if you read mail as
> html and look at the links at the bottom of every message.
>
>
>
> Gene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Arlene <mailto:nedster66@...>
>
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 5:12 PM
>
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite
> version
> of nvda!
>
>
>
> Hi, I don't think you can mute the thread. The Mod can. I could be lying. I
> just hit the delete key if I don't want to read the thread.  Speaking of
> older versions of windows. I used to be able to type in a name of a thread
> and hit delete. Then it was gone. it was with outlook express. I no longer
> use it. But it's okay. I just hit delete!
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino
> Morales
> Sent: September-11-17 2:53 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite
> version
> of nvda!
>
>
>
> Me angry? No sir. Just sick of this thread. I need to mute it.
>
>
>
> On 9/11/2017 4:00 PM, Gene wrote:
>
> So, in your view of the world, poor countries don't exist and everyone can
> just go out and get a more modern computer and if they don't, its their own
> damn fault.  Are you aware that even according to the developers own
> statements, one of the important reasons NVDA was developed was to serve
> those who couldn't afford to buy for profit screen-readers?  Why do you
> think XP has been supported so long by NVDA?  Because the developers
> recognize that many users can't get access to newer machines with more
> modern versions of Windows.
>
>
>
> Also, do you read your messages before you send them?  Some of your message
> was unintelligible  though I gather it was about XP being a vector to
> spread
> a virus and a good deal else in your message was really sloppy with blatant
> typographical errors.  If you are angry and make all sorts of mistakes,
> that
> is particularly the time to read your message before sending it an
> correcting it.
>
>
>
> Gene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> A good deal of your message was almost unintelliggible and I hardly know
> what a sentence or two was trying to say.  If you are angry and just From:
> Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
>
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 2:33 PM
>
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite
> version
> of nvda!
>
>
>
> Sure it is. Time ti get off the XP train. If you don't its your own damn
> fault. Theier was a cute little the world famous Patric Perdue sand with
> the
> help of DecTalk Virus. I'm sticking with WIN 10 and NVDA 2020 if I'm alive
> in 2020 when its released. I'm done. Now, but NVDA 2017.3 discusion.
>
>
>
> On 9/10/2017 8:50 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
>
> there's a good 5 or 6 years before 7 is too old...
> And "Suck it up buttercup" is very understanding and helpful to people
> asking for help...
> On 9/10/2017 3:24 PM, Arlene wrote:
>
> Perhaps this person may have a language barrier. I don't know what her
> story
> is. yes that person's going to be left behind. I know sooner or later 7 is
> going to go out just like xp.  I'm going to learn ten before 7 becomes a
> sinking ship.
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino
> Morales
> Sent: September-10-17 3:20 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite
> version
> of nvda!
>
>
>
> I think 2 things. One their is a language barier or 2. This person is 2
> chicken nuggits shy of a happy meal. Suck it up butter cup. Either get off
> the XP train or get left behinsd. Windows 10. Its good for you.
>
>
>
> On 9/10/2017 6:01 PM, Gene wrote:
>
> Perhaps a paradox is an example.  Two contradictory statements can't both
> be
> true although, they can both seem to be until the problem causing such an
> appearance is resolved.  for example, is light a wave or a particle?  For
> years, that was a serious problem in quantum mechanics until theories and
> models were developed that accounted for both observations.
>
>
>
> Gene
>
> ------ Original Message -----
>
> From: Antony Stone <mailto:antony.stone@...>
>
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:20 PM
>
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda developers please help me about my favorite
> version
> of nvda!
>
>
>
> I've often wondered about this.
>
> Surely a profound truth is a correct statement.
>
> So, if the opposite of that correct statement is a false statement, how can
> it
> be another profound truth?
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Sunday 10 September 2017 at 19:15:11, Brian Vogel wrote:
>
>> The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.
>>
>> But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.
>
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