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2017 NVDA Community Add-ons Festival: September 23, 2017 schedule is now available

 

Dear NVDA community,

 

I’m delighted to announce the final schedule for 2017 NVDA Community Add-ons Festival, to be held on September 23, 2017 at NVDACon TeamTalk server (www.nvdacon.org)).

 

The Add-ons Festival is an event where authors and users of various NVDA add-ons can get together and have an informal chat about add-on development. Originally, NVDACon 2017 would have featured this event, but due to time constraints, it was separated into its own event.

 

Below is the final schedule of events for this gathering:

 

  • Date: September 23, 2017
  • Time: see below.
  • Location: NVDACon TeamTalk server

 

Chats (all times are in UTC):

 

  • NVDA Store: 15:00 UTC 8 AM Pacific, 11 AM Eastern)
  • Audio Themes: 17:00 UTC (10 AM Pacific, 1 PM Eastern)
  • Joseph’s add-ons (StationPlaylist Studio, GoldWave, Resource Monitor, Windows 10 App Essentials, ObjPad, Easy Table Navigator, Enhanced Touch Gestures): 19:00 UTC (12 PM Pacific, 3 PM Eastern)
  • A chat with Derek (Notepad++, DictationBridge, LaTeX Access and others): 21:00 UTC (2 PM Pacific, 5 PM Eastern)
  • 2018: taking advantage of features and opportunities: 00:00 UTC (5 PM Pacific, 8 PM Eastern): serving as an informal keynote for the festival, Joseph Lee will discuss the role of the community and add-ons in 2018, including transitioning to Python 3, speech refactor, compatibility with old Windows releases, review process, and updates on features that’ll impact add-ons.

 

Hope to see you there.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: help with Hims Braille display

George Zaynoun
 

Yes that's true and confirmed, unfortunately the navigation keys don't work with NVDA if you use this old display.
Original message:

Hello everyone. I've recently acquired a Hims Sync Braille 20 cell
display. I installed the driver but the function keys are still not
working when I try to scroll nothing happens. If anyone has had this
issue or knows of anything else I can do, the help is greatly
appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Charlotte

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Re: Nvda Scripting and virtual document

Quentin Christensen
 

Thank you.  The issue we have on our issue tracker for this is: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7556

Feel free to subscribe to be notified of updates, or add a comment if you can contribute any new information.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

Agreed, anything I can do to help, just say the word.

Thank you sir,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 7:32 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Ok, yep it's definitely something we want to get fixed, but as an interim workaround, control+shift+tab at least doesn't seem to crash anything.

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

I have been using ctrl-y – just tried ctrl-shift-tab and it worked fine.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:16 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

How do you switch to sent items?


I've seen one issue where if you press control+y, it often causes problems, but control+shift+tab seems to work instead.

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

Sometimes I get errors as I arrow down a message and it will not read.

Other times if I switch to sent items outlook quits responding.

But, some of the time it’s just fine.

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:00 PM


To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Ok, but aside from the errors in the log, is anything not working?

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

I restarted nvda at the desktop to get a clean log.

I launched outlook – let the email list of messages display and pressed nvda-f1 – copied the log to the clipboard and then hit enter on the message at the bottom of the list which was your message.

I chose reply and pasted the log to you.


That is all.

I get errors when I down arrow in many messages as well.

I have tried this after restarting with addons disabled as well.

That doesn’t seem to help.

I have also rolled back to release builds and this problem still happens.

             

Thank you sir,

Sam

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:46 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Thanks Sam,

 

What happened when this log was generated?  EG: Were you doing something particular in Outlook, does it always happen when you do that, etc?

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

Please see my nvda viewer log:

Note the errors.

 

INFO - __main__ (17:39:32.213):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.447):

Config dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (17:39:32.447):

Loading config: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

NVDA version master-14434,c626dd6d

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016, 20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using comtypes version 0.6.2

INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (17:39:32.867):

Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.1 dev

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (17:39:32.937):

Loaded synthDriver espeak

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.937):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (17:39:32.938):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (17:39:32.940):

Using liblouis version 3.2.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (17:39:32.940):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (17:39:32.990):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (17:39:32.996):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - core.main (17:39:33.348):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - RPC process 5292 (nvda_slave.exe) (17:39:39.240):

__main__.main:

slave error

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 90, in main

  File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1165, in GetActiveObject

  File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult

WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (17:39:48.641):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'From Quentin Christensen, Subject Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document, Received Wed 9/13/2017 5:39 PM, Size 27 KB,'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_READONLY, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <appModules.outlook.UIAGridRow object at 0x04DD1EB0>

Python class mro: (<class 'appModules.outlook.UIAGridRow'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: ''

location: (360, 1744, 684, 70)

value: None

appModule: <'outlook' (appName u'outlook', process ID 8932) at address 4c64150>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft Outlook'

appModule.productVersion: u'16.0.8326.2096'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 16974452

windowClassName: u'OutlookGrid'

windowControlID: 4704

windowStyle: 1442840576

windowThreadID: 10480

windowText: u'Table View'

displayText: u''

UIAElement: <POINTER(IUIAutomationElement) ptr=0x66728e8 at 4dc7990>

UIA automationID:

UIA frameworkID:

UIA runtimeID: (42, 16974452, 3, -758, 585486336, 30616759)

UIA providerDescription: [pid:8932,providerId:0x0 Main(parent link):Unidentified Provider (unmanaged:OUTLOOK.EXE)]

UIA className: LeafRow

 

 

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:39 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Sure :)

 

I have started catching up on the Outlook issues - at least getting up to speed with what the issues are etc moreso than necessarily having all the solutions.

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin,

 

I have a huge problem with outlook 2016 and nvda. I have posted on this list about it.

Can I email you off list to see if you can help resolve?

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

There are likely folks in here who can help, but the NVDA-devel group is likely a better place to post those kinds of questions.

 

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 11:28 PM, Sampa <scratchoun8@...> wrote:

Hi,

Thank you for your fast reply.

I've already made a few scripts for some non-web application, and I used the links above. But I can't find any documentation or examples on how to deal with virtual documents.

I've also searched in NVDA sources or in some plugins, but I don't understand how to proceed to catch the Dom object and how to work with it.

Best regards,

Sampa



 

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Re: NVDA's "Modern" Sounds

Kwork
 


I would be curious to hear them. With other requests on the list over the past couple of weeks, I think there would be other takers too.
I'm thinking the instructions given previously only applied for those who still had that snapshot installed, or was running a portable copy. Even a copy of that particular snap would be fine with me as I could create a portable NVDA out of it and copy the "waves" folder out of that.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's "Modern" Sounds

I thought someone had sent instructions about how to get them.  According to a post I saw, it referred to someone doing it.  I don't like the sounds but I have them because I never got around to deleting the snap I downloaded that have them.  If they aren't already available somewhere, I can make them available. 
 
Gene
------ Original Message -----
From: Kwork
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's "Modern" Sounds

A few people have been asking for the alternate sounds over the past couple of weeks. So far, nobody has come forth with any of them. Maybe they don't actually exist, but was a mass audio illusion for the lucky few who heard them? LOL!
Travis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's "Modern" Sounds

No. The NVDA sounds were changed in a master snap, but then changed back to default. I would like to find those sounds.
On 9/13/2017 19:28, Dr. arvind singh brar wrote:
hello,

you can get the audio themes from the link belowb


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I was wondering if someone could direct me as to where I could download these sounds, as I like them very much. Thanks.






Re: WebAIM

 

hi i did not find questions to answer in that link!

On 9/14/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi


Yesterday when it came across the list i was able to fill in the survey.
From what i hear it was leaked before it was meant to come out and now that
message is in its place.


Hopefully they get it sorted I did not see any problems with the survey as
it was.


Gene nz


On 14/09/2017 05:42, derek riemer wrote:
All I see is "the screen reader survey will be available soon"

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Sarah k Alawami
<marrie12@...<mailto:marrie12@...>> wrote:
I personally will no longer be doing any more of these surveys. But that's
just me. Thanks so much for the info tough for those of us that want to or
need to have this data.
On Sep 12, 2017, at 2:25 PM, Gene New Zealand
<hurrikennyandopo@...<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...>>
wrote:


Hi thanks for this i just filled it in.


While the survey is going i will add it to my website for other screen
reader users that might want to fill it in. It will stay there until it
finishes just have to figure where is the best spot?


Guys the survey is well worth filling out so please do.


Gene nz


On 13/09/2017 03:29, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!

Will be good to NVDA promotion if all NVDA users fill the survey!
For TalkBack users, the survey is also about mobile usage!


http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey7/

Best regards,

Rui Fontes





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Re: Open Offices stops responding

 

hi.
i have problem with openoffice that sometimes does not work when i use nvda.
but i dont have this problem using libreoffice and nvda.
hope that help, God bless you all.

On 9/14/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Hi Jerry,

What exactly are you doing when Open Office stops responding?

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Re: Accessible antivirus programs

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Quentin and Group,


Be ware of Kapersky!  It was all over the mainstream media that Kaspersky is from a Russian company and it may pose a threat.  Some businesses and supposedly the NSA are worried that Kaspersky could contain Trojans or Key loggers.



On 9/13/2017 7:36 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I must admit, on Windows 10, I also use the built in Defender from Microsoft.  This question does come up regularly though, so here are my notes from the last round of conversations on this earlier this year:

There are several anti-virus programs which are accessible with NVDA and some which are partly accessible:

Windows Defender comes with Windows 10 from Microsoft and is accessible.

One user, David Goldfield, has written a comprehensive review of Kaspersky Anti-Virushttps://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/

Another user, Gene, has put together a whole site of information and suggestions, including for anti-virushttp://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html

Sonos is another anti-virus which has been recommended by some of our users: https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx

If anyone checks those and finds the information out of date, or has others to add, please do chime in!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Agreed. I just use what comes with my machine which is defender. If you use come sense you won't get a virus.
On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Randy Barnett <randy@...> wrote:

MS Defender is sufficient. I have not had a virus for over 22 years...
Too much hype out there...
On 9/13/2017 2:24 PM, Greg Rhodes wrote:
Looking for an NVDA-friendly paid antivirus program. Suggestions?
 






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Re: Nvda Scripting and virtual document

Sam Bushman
 

Agreed, anything I can do to help, just say the word.

Thank you sir,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 7:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Ok, yep it's definitely something we want to get fixed, but as an interim workaround, control+shift+tab at least doesn't seem to crash anything.

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

I have been using ctrl-y – just tried ctrl-shift-tab and it worked fine.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:16 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

How do you switch to sent items?


I've seen one issue where if you press control+y, it often causes problems, but control+shift+tab seems to work instead.

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

Sometimes I get errors as I arrow down a message and it will not read.

Other times if I switch to sent items outlook quits responding.

But, some of the time it’s just fine.

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:00 PM


To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Ok, but aside from the errors in the log, is anything not working?

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

I restarted nvda at the desktop to get a clean log.

I launched outlook – let the email list of messages display and pressed nvda-f1 – copied the log to the clipboard and then hit enter on the message at the bottom of the list which was your message.

I chose reply and pasted the log to you.


That is all.

I get errors when I down arrow in many messages as well.

I have tried this after restarting with addons disabled as well.

That doesn’t seem to help.

I have also rolled back to release builds and this problem still happens.

             

Thank you sir,

Sam

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:46 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Thanks Sam,

 

What happened when this log was generated?  EG: Were you doing something particular in Outlook, does it always happen when you do that, etc?

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

Please see my nvda viewer log:

Note the errors.

 

INFO - __main__ (17:39:32.213):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.447):

Config dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (17:39:32.447):

Loading config: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

NVDA version master-14434,c626dd6d

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016, 20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using comtypes version 0.6.2

INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (17:39:32.867):

Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.1 dev

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (17:39:32.937):

Loaded synthDriver espeak

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.937):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (17:39:32.938):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (17:39:32.940):

Using liblouis version 3.2.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (17:39:32.940):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (17:39:32.990):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (17:39:32.996):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - core.main (17:39:33.348):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - RPC process 5292 (nvda_slave.exe) (17:39:39.240):

__main__.main:

slave error

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 90, in main

  File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1165, in GetActiveObject

  File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult

WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (17:39:48.641):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'From Quentin Christensen, Subject Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document, Received Wed 9/13/2017 5:39 PM, Size 27 KB,'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_READONLY, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <appModules.outlook.UIAGridRow object at 0x04DD1EB0>

Python class mro: (<class 'appModules.outlook.UIAGridRow'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: ''

location: (360, 1744, 684, 70)

value: None

appModule: <'outlook' (appName u'outlook', process ID 8932) at address 4c64150>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft Outlook'

appModule.productVersion: u'16.0.8326.2096'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 16974452

windowClassName: u'OutlookGrid'

windowControlID: 4704

windowStyle: 1442840576

windowThreadID: 10480

windowText: u'Table View'

displayText: u''

UIAElement: <POINTER(IUIAutomationElement) ptr=0x66728e8 at 4dc7990>

UIA automationID:

UIA frameworkID:

UIA runtimeID: (42, 16974452, 3, -758, 585486336, 30616759)

UIA providerDescription: [pid:8932,providerId:0x0 Main(parent link):Unidentified Provider (unmanaged:OUTLOOK.EXE)]

UIA className: LeafRow

 

 

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:39 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Sure :)

 

I have started catching up on the Outlook issues - at least getting up to speed with what the issues are etc moreso than necessarily having all the solutions.

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin,

 

I have a huge problem with outlook 2016 and nvda. I have posted on this list about it.

Can I email you off list to see if you can help resolve?

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

There are likely folks in here who can help, but the NVDA-devel group is likely a better place to post those kinds of questions.

 

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 11:28 PM, Sampa <scratchoun8@...> wrote:

Hi,

Thank you for your fast reply.

I've already made a few scripts for some non-web application, and I used the links above. But I can't find any documentation or examples on how to deal with virtual documents.

I've also searched in NVDA sources or in some plugins, but I don't understand how to proceed to catch the Dom object and how to work with it.

Best regards,

Sampa



 

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Re: NVDA's "Modern" Sounds

Gene
 

I thought someone had sent instructions about how to get them.  According to a post I saw, it referred to someone doing it.  I don't like the sounds but I have them because I never got around to deleting the snap I downloaded that have them.  If they aren't already available somewhere, I can make them available. 
 
Gene

------ Original Message -----
From: Kwork
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's "Modern" Sounds

A few people have been asking for the alternate sounds over the past couple of weeks. So far, nobody has come forth with any of them. Maybe they don't actually exist, but was a mass audio illusion for the lucky few who heard them? LOL!
Travis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's "Modern" Sounds

No. The NVDA sounds were changed in a master snap, but then changed back to default. I would like to find those sounds.
On 9/13/2017 19:28, Dr. arvind singh brar wrote:
hello,

you can get the audio themes from the link belowb


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I was wondering if someone could direct me as to where I could download these sounds, as I like them very much. Thanks.






Re: NVDA's "Modern" Sounds

 

Hehehehehe. No, I know they existed. Just trying to track them down.


On 9/13/2017 22:06, Kwork wrote:
A few people have been asking for the alternate sounds over the past couple of weeks. So far, nobody has come forth with any of them. Maybe they don't actually exist, but was a mass audio illusion for the lucky few who heard them? LOL!
Travis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's "Modern" Sounds

No. The NVDA sounds were changed in a master snap, but then changed back to default. I would like to find those sounds.
On 9/13/2017 19:28, Dr. arvind singh brar wrote:
hello,

you can get the audio themes from the link belowb


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I was wondering if someone could direct me as to where I could download these sounds, as I like them very much. Thanks.







Re: NVDA's "Modern" Sounds

Kwork
 


A few people have been asking for the alternate sounds over the past couple of weeks. So far, nobody has come forth with any of them. Maybe they don't actually exist, but was a mass audio illusion for the lucky few who heard them? LOL!
Travis

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's "Modern" Sounds

No. The NVDA sounds were changed in a master snap, but then changed back to default. I would like to find those sounds.
On 9/13/2017 19:28, Dr. arvind singh brar wrote:
hello,

you can get the audio themes from the link belowb


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Re: Nvda Scripting and virtual document

Quentin Christensen
 

Ok, yep it's definitely something we want to get fixed, but as an interim workaround, control+shift+tab at least doesn't seem to crash anything.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

I have been using ctrl-y – just tried ctrl-shift-tab and it worked fine.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:16 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

How do you switch to sent items?


I've seen one issue where if you press control+y, it often causes problems, but control+shift+tab seems to work instead.

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

Sometimes I get errors as I arrow down a message and it will not read.

Other times if I switch to sent items outlook quits responding.

But, some of the time it’s just fine.

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:00 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Ok, but aside from the errors in the log, is anything not working?

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

I restarted nvda at the desktop to get a clean log.

I launched outlook – let the email list of messages display and pressed nvda-f1 – copied the log to the clipboard and then hit enter on the message at the bottom of the list which was your message.

I chose reply and pasted the log to you.


That is all.

I get errors when I down arrow in many messages as well.

I have tried this after restarting with addons disabled as well.

That doesn’t seem to help.

I have also rolled back to release builds and this problem still happens.

             

Thank you sir,

Sam

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:46 PM


To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Thanks Sam,

 

What happened when this log was generated?  EG: Were you doing something particular in Outlook, does it always happen when you do that, etc?

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

Please see my nvda viewer log:

Note the errors.

 

INFO - __main__ (17:39:32.213):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.447):

Config dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (17:39:32.447):

Loading config: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

NVDA version master-14434,c626dd6d

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016, 20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using comtypes version 0.6.2

INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (17:39:32.867):

Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.1 dev

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (17:39:32.937):

Loaded synthDriver espeak

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.937):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (17:39:32.938):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (17:39:32.940):

Using liblouis version 3.2.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (17:39:32.940):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (17:39:32.990):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (17:39:32.996):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - core.main (17:39:33.348):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - RPC process 5292 (nvda_slave.exe) (17:39:39.240):

__main__.main:

slave error

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 90, in main

  File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1165, in GetActiveObject

  File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult

WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (17:39:48.641):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'From Quentin Christensen, Subject Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document, Received Wed 9/13/2017 5:39 PM, Size 27 KB,'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_READONLY, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <appModules.outlook.UIAGridRow object at 0x04DD1EB0>

Python class mro: (<class 'appModules.outlook.UIAGridRow'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: ''

location: (360, 1744, 684, 70)

value: None

appModule: <'outlook' (appName u'outlook', process ID 8932) at address 4c64150>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft Outlook'

appModule.productVersion: u'16.0.8326.2096'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 16974452

windowClassName: u'OutlookGrid'

windowControlID: 4704

windowStyle: 1442840576

windowThreadID: 10480

windowText: u'Table View'

displayText: u''

UIAElement: <POINTER(IUIAutomationElement) ptr=0x66728e8 at 4dc7990>

UIA automationID:

UIA frameworkID:

UIA runtimeID: (42, 16974452, 3, -758, 585486336, 30616759)

UIA providerDescription: [pid:8932,providerId:0x0 Main(parent link):Unidentified Provider (unmanaged:OUTLOOK.EXE)]

UIA className: LeafRow

 

 

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:39 PM


To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Sure :)

 

I have started catching up on the Outlook issues - at least getting up to speed with what the issues are etc moreso than necessarily having all the solutions.

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin,

 

I have a huge problem with outlook 2016 and nvda. I have posted on this list about it.

Can I email you off list to see if you can help resolve?

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

There are likely folks in here who can help, but the NVDA-devel group is likely a better place to post those kinds of questions.

 

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 11:28 PM, Sampa <scratchoun8@...> wrote:

Hi,

Thank you for your fast reply.

I've already made a few scripts for some non-web application, and I used the links above. But I can't find any documentation or examples on how to deal with virtual documents.

I've also searched in NVDA sources or in some plugins, but I don't understand how to proceed to catch the Dom object and how to work with it.

Best regards,

Sampa



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 




--
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Training and Support Manager

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Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Open Offices stops responding

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Jerry,

What exactly are you doing when Open Office stops responding?

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Jerry Schoen via Groups.Io <jschoen91711@...> wrote:

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

While using NVDA Open Office stops responding.  Is there a fix?


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help with Hims Braille display

Charlotte
 

Hello everyone. I've recently acquired a Hims Sync Braille 20 cell display. I installed the driver but the function keys are still not working when I try to scroll nothing happens. If anyone has had this issue or knows of anything else I can do, the help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Charlotte


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Re: NVDA's "Modern" Sounds

 

No. The NVDA sounds were changed in a master snap, but then changed back to default. I would like to find those sounds.

On 9/13/2017 19:28, Dr. arvind singh brar wrote:
hello,

you can get the audio themes from the link belowb


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I was wondering if someone could direct me as to where I could download these sounds, as I like them very much. Thanks.






Re: Nvda Scripting and virtual document

Sam Bushman
 

I have been using ctrl-y – just tried ctrl-shift-tab and it worked fine.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

How do you switch to sent items?


I've seen one issue where if you press control+y, it often causes problems, but control+shift+tab seems to work instead.

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

Sometimes I get errors as I arrow down a message and it will not read.

Other times if I switch to sent items outlook quits responding.

But, some of the time it’s just fine.

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:00 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Ok, but aside from the errors in the log, is anything not working?

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

I restarted nvda at the desktop to get a clean log.

I launched outlook – let the email list of messages display and pressed nvda-f1 – copied the log to the clipboard and then hit enter on the message at the bottom of the list which was your message.

I chose reply and pasted the log to you.


That is all.

I get errors when I down arrow in many messages as well.

I have tried this after restarting with addons disabled as well.

That doesn’t seem to help.

I have also rolled back to release builds and this problem still happens.

             

Thank you sir,

Sam

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:46 PM


To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Thanks Sam,

 

What happened when this log was generated?  EG: Were you doing something particular in Outlook, does it always happen when you do that, etc?

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

Please see my nvda viewer log:

Note the errors.

 

INFO - __main__ (17:39:32.213):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.447):

Config dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (17:39:32.447):

Loading config: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

NVDA version master-14434,c626dd6d

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016, 20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using comtypes version 0.6.2

INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (17:39:32.867):

Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.1 dev

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (17:39:32.937):

Loaded synthDriver espeak

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.937):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (17:39:32.938):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (17:39:32.940):

Using liblouis version 3.2.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (17:39:32.940):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (17:39:32.990):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (17:39:32.996):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - core.main (17:39:33.348):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - RPC process 5292 (nvda_slave.exe) (17:39:39.240):

__main__.main:

slave error

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 90, in main

  File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1165, in GetActiveObject

  File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult

WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (17:39:48.641):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'From Quentin Christensen, Subject Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document, Received Wed 9/13/2017 5:39 PM, Size 27 KB,'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_READONLY, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <appModules.outlook.UIAGridRow object at 0x04DD1EB0>

Python class mro: (<class 'appModules.outlook.UIAGridRow'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: ''

location: (360, 1744, 684, 70)

value: None

appModule: <'outlook' (appName u'outlook', process ID 8932) at address 4c64150>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft Outlook'

appModule.productVersion: u'16.0.8326.2096'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 16974452

windowClassName: u'OutlookGrid'

windowControlID: 4704

windowStyle: 1442840576

windowThreadID: 10480

windowText: u'Table View'

displayText: u''

UIAElement: <POINTER(IUIAutomationElement) ptr=0x66728e8 at 4dc7990>

UIA automationID:

UIA frameworkID:

UIA runtimeID: (42, 16974452, 3, -758, 585486336, 30616759)

UIA providerDescription: [pid:8932,providerId:0x0 Main(parent link):Unidentified Provider (unmanaged:OUTLOOK.EXE)]

UIA className: LeafRow

 

 

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:39 PM


To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Sure :)

 

I have started catching up on the Outlook issues - at least getting up to speed with what the issues are etc moreso than necessarily having all the solutions.

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin,

 

I have a huge problem with outlook 2016 and nvda. I have posted on this list about it.

Can I email you off list to see if you can help resolve?

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

There are likely folks in here who can help, but the NVDA-devel group is likely a better place to post those kinds of questions.

 

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 11:28 PM, Sampa <scratchoun8@...> wrote:

Hi,

Thank you for your fast reply.

I've already made a few scripts for some non-web application, and I used the links above. But I can't find any documentation or examples on how to deal with virtual documents.

I've also searched in NVDA sources or in some plugins, but I don't understand how to proceed to catch the Dom object and how to work with it.

Best regards,

Sampa



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Nvda Scripting and virtual document

Quentin Christensen
 

How do you switch to sent items?

I've seen one issue where if you press control+y, it often causes problems, but control+shift+tab seems to work instead.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

Sometimes I get errors as I arrow down a message and it will not read.

Other times if I switch to sent items outlook quits responding.

But, some of the time it’s just fine.

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:00 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Ok, but aside from the errors in the log, is anything not working?

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

I restarted nvda at the desktop to get a clean log.

I launched outlook – let the email list of messages display and pressed nvda-f1 – copied the log to the clipboard and then hit enter on the message at the bottom of the list which was your message.

I chose reply and pasted the log to you.


That is all.

I get errors when I down arrow in many messages as well.

I have tried this after restarting with addons disabled as well.

That doesn’t seem to help.

I have also rolled back to release builds and this problem still happens.

             

Thank you sir,

Sam

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:46 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Thanks Sam,

 

What happened when this log was generated?  EG: Were you doing something particular in Outlook, does it always happen when you do that, etc?

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

Please see my nvda viewer log:

Note the errors.

 

INFO - __main__ (17:39:32.213):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.447):

Config dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (17:39:32.447):

Loading config: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

NVDA version master-14434,c626dd6d

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016, 20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using comtypes version 0.6.2

INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (17:39:32.867):

Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.1 dev

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (17:39:32.937):

Loaded synthDriver espeak

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.937):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (17:39:32.938):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (17:39:32.940):

Using liblouis version 3.2.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (17:39:32.940):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (17:39:32.990):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (17:39:32.996):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - core.main (17:39:33.348):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - RPC process 5292 (nvda_slave.exe) (17:39:39.240):

__main__.main:

slave error

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 90, in main

  File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1165, in GetActiveObject

  File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult

WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (17:39:48.641):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'From Quentin Christensen, Subject Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document, Received Wed 9/13/2017 5:39 PM, Size 27 KB,'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_READONLY, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <appModules.outlook.UIAGridRow object at 0x04DD1EB0>

Python class mro: (<class 'appModules.outlook.UIAGridRow'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: ''

location: (360, 1744, 684, 70)

value: None

appModule: <'outlook' (appName u'outlook', process ID 8932) at address 4c64150>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft Outlook'

appModule.productVersion: u'16.0.8326.2096'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 16974452

windowClassName: u'OutlookGrid'

windowControlID: 4704

windowStyle: 1442840576

windowThreadID: 10480

windowText: u'Table View'

displayText: u''

UIAElement: <POINTER(IUIAutomationElement) ptr=0x66728e8 at 4dc7990>

UIA automationID:

UIA frameworkID:

UIA runtimeID: (42, 16974452, 3, -758, 585486336, 30616759)

UIA providerDescription: [pid:8932,providerId:0x0 Main(parent link):Unidentified Provider (unmanaged:OUTLOOK.EXE)]

UIA className: LeafRow

 

 

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:39 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Sure :)

 

I have started catching up on the Outlook issues - at least getting up to speed with what the issues are etc moreso than necessarily having all the solutions.

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin,

 

I have a huge problem with outlook 2016 and nvda. I have posted on this list about it.

Can I email you off list to see if you can help resolve?

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

There are likely folks in here who can help, but the NVDA-devel group is likely a better place to post those kinds of questions.

 

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 11:28 PM, Sampa <scratchoun8@...> wrote:

Hi,

Thank you for your fast reply.

I've already made a few scripts for some non-web application, and I used the links above. But I can't find any documentation or examples on how to deal with virtual documents.

I've also searched in NVDA sources or in some plugins, but I don't understand how to proceed to catch the Dom object and how to work with it.

Best regards,

Sampa



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Nvda Scripting and virtual document

Sam Bushman
 

Sometimes I get errors as I arrow down a message and it will not read.

Other times if I switch to sent items outlook quits responding.

But, some of the time it’s just fine.

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Ok, but aside from the errors in the log, is anything not working?

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

I restarted nvda at the desktop to get a clean log.

I launched outlook – let the email list of messages display and pressed nvda-f1 – copied the log to the clipboard and then hit enter on the message at the bottom of the list which was your message.

I chose reply and pasted the log to you.


That is all.

I get errors when I down arrow in many messages as well.

I have tried this after restarting with addons disabled as well.

That doesn’t seem to help.

I have also rolled back to release builds and this problem still happens.

             

Thank you sir,

Sam

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:46 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Thanks Sam,

 

What happened when this log was generated?  EG: Were you doing something particular in Outlook, does it always happen when you do that, etc?

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

Please see my nvda viewer log:

Note the errors.

 

INFO - __main__ (17:39:32.213):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.447):

Config dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (17:39:32.447):

Loading config: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

NVDA version master-14434,c626dd6d

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016, 20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using comtypes version 0.6.2

INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (17:39:32.867):

Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.1 dev

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (17:39:32.937):

Loaded synthDriver espeak

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.937):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (17:39:32.938):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (17:39:32.940):

Using liblouis version 3.2.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (17:39:32.940):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (17:39:32.990):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (17:39:32.996):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - core.main (17:39:33.348):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - RPC process 5292 (nvda_slave.exe) (17:39:39.240):

__main__.main:

slave error

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 90, in main

  File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1165, in GetActiveObject

  File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult

WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (17:39:48.641):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'From Quentin Christensen, Subject Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document, Received Wed 9/13/2017 5:39 PM, Size 27 KB,'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_READONLY, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <appModules.outlook.UIAGridRow object at 0x04DD1EB0>

Python class mro: (<class 'appModules.outlook.UIAGridRow'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: ''

location: (360, 1744, 684, 70)

value: None

appModule: <'outlook' (appName u'outlook', process ID 8932) at address 4c64150>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft Outlook'

appModule.productVersion: u'16.0.8326.2096'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 16974452

windowClassName: u'OutlookGrid'

windowControlID: 4704

windowStyle: 1442840576

windowThreadID: 10480

windowText: u'Table View'

displayText: u''

UIAElement: <POINTER(IUIAutomationElement) ptr=0x66728e8 at 4dc7990>

UIA automationID:

UIA frameworkID:

UIA runtimeID: (42, 16974452, 3, -758, 585486336, 30616759)

UIA providerDescription: [pid:8932,providerId:0x0 Main(parent link):Unidentified Provider (unmanaged:OUTLOOK.EXE)]

UIA className: LeafRow

 

 

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:39 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Sure :)

 

I have started catching up on the Outlook issues - at least getting up to speed with what the issues are etc moreso than necessarily having all the solutions.

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin,

 

I have a huge problem with outlook 2016 and nvda. I have posted on this list about it.

Can I email you off list to see if you can help resolve?

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

There are likely folks in here who can help, but the NVDA-devel group is likely a better place to post those kinds of questions.

 

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 11:28 PM, Sampa <scratchoun8@...> wrote:

Hi,

Thank you for your fast reply.

I've already made a few scripts for some non-web application, and I used the links above. But I can't find any documentation or examples on how to deal with virtual documents.

I've also searched in NVDA sources or in some plugins, but I don't understand how to proceed to catch the Dom object and how to work with it.

Best regards,

Sampa



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Nvda Scripting and virtual document

Quentin Christensen
 

Ok, but aside from the errors in the log, is anything not working?

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

I restarted nvda at the desktop to get a clean log.

I launched outlook – let the email list of messages display and pressed nvda-f1 – copied the log to the clipboard and then hit enter on the message at the bottom of the list which was your message.

I chose reply and pasted the log to you.


That is all.

I get errors when I down arrow in many messages as well.

I have tried this after restarting with addons disabled as well.

That doesn’t seem to help.

I have also rolled back to release builds and this problem still happens.

             

Thank you sir,

Sam

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:46 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Thanks Sam,

 

What happened when this log was generated?  EG: Were you doing something particular in Outlook, does it always happen when you do that, etc?

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

Please see my nvda viewer log:

Note the errors.

 

INFO - __main__ (17:39:32.213):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.447):

Config dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (17:39:32.447):

Loading config: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

NVDA version master-14434,c626dd6d

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016, 20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.509):

Using comtypes version 0.6.2

INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (17:39:32.867):

Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.1 dev

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (17:39:32.937):

Loaded synthDriver espeak

INFO - core.main (17:39:32.937):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (17:39:32.938):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (17:39:32.940):

Using liblouis version 3.2.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (17:39:32.940):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (17:39:32.990):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (17:39:32.996):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - core.main (17:39:33.348):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - RPC process 5292 (nvda_slave.exe) (17:39:39.240):

__main__.main:

slave error

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 90, in main

  File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1165, in GetActiveObject

  File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult

WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (17:39:48.641):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'From Quentin Christensen, Subject Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document, Received Wed 9/13/2017 5:39 PM, Size 27 KB,'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_READONLY, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <appModules.outlook.UIAGridRow object at 0x04DD1EB0>

Python class mro: (<class 'appModules.outlook.UIAGridRow'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: ''

location: (360, 1744, 684, 70)

value: None

appModule: <'outlook' (appName u'outlook', process ID 8932) at address 4c64150>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft Outlook'

appModule.productVersion: u'16.0.8326.2096'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 16974452

windowClassName: u'OutlookGrid'

windowControlID: 4704

windowStyle: 1442840576

windowThreadID: 10480

windowText: u'Table View'

displayText: u''

UIAElement: <POINTER(IUIAutomationElement) ptr=0x66728e8 at 4dc7990>

UIA automationID:

UIA frameworkID:

UIA runtimeID: (42, 16974452, 3, -758, 585486336, 30616759)

UIA providerDescription: [pid:8932,providerId:0x0 Main(parent link):Unidentified Provider (unmanaged:OUTLOOK.EXE)]

UIA className: LeafRow

 

 

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:39 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

Sure :)

 

I have started catching up on the Outlook issues - at least getting up to speed with what the issues are etc moreso than necessarily having all the solutions.

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin,

 

I have a huge problem with outlook 2016 and nvda. I have posted on this list about it.

Can I email you off list to see if you can help resolve?

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda Scripting and virtual document

 

There are likely folks in here who can help, but the NVDA-devel group is likely a better place to post those kinds of questions.

 

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 11:28 PM, Sampa <scratchoun8@...> wrote:

Hi,

Thank you for your fast reply.

I've already made a few scripts for some non-web application, and I used the links above. But I can't find any documentation or examples on how to deal with virtual documents.

I've also searched in NVDA sources or in some plugins, but I don't understand how to proceed to catch the Dom object and how to work with it.

Best regards,

Sampa



 

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