Hi, I see a thread called NVDA’s Modern sounds as well as this one, trial sounds. Are they one in the same? Or … ?

              Thanks,

Stan B

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 10:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] The triall sounds

 

Thanks got them. I have to look through the archives to see where to put the things but I'm sure that will be as easy as cake.

On Sep 14, 2017, at 6:51 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 

Here is a link to a zip file of the waves folder from NVDA that contains the trial sounds.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kh92k257bearne0/waves.zip?dl=1

 

Gene

 

On Sep 14, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:

Actually, that's cool, that's essentially what I needed for the most part to know, but now I'm seeing that this addon only does the current object. So, what's this thingy that Sarah talks about with some kind of a cloud OCR thing.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 5:13 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR?

Hi,   nvda and the letter r I can not help any more than this sorry.

On 14/09/2017 21:01, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
> Can you if you have access to it use the OCR now on nvda? I don't 
> remember how it works but good luck.
>> On Sep 14, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>> <clgilland07@... <mailto:clgilland07@...>> wrote:
>>
>> Guys,
>> I've ran into a very very urgent matter which is work related.
>> I can read up more on object nav, and more on the OCR plugin, but at 
>> least, can you all help get me up and running with the basics here? 
>> What I need is to know... I have a screen which has some controls 
>> exposed which NVDA cannot seem to see. Not even with object nav, or 
>> screen review.
>> Let me say that I normally prefer screen review over object. I just 
>> find it more logical, seeing that I normally use JAWS, so I'm more 
>> used to the jaws cursor kind of approach.
>> Anyway, I think we're gonna have to OCR this window to get anywhere so 
>> I can see and click the controls. I think once I get to the place to 
>> click that'll open the browser window in the screen I need access to, 
>> then OCR won't be needed after that point, but I just need to get that 
>> one area visible.
>> If any of you are wonderring what this window is, it's the Synthogy 
>> Ivory VST plugin window within Reaper. I just need to be able to get 
>> to the browser to select and load one of the libraries.
>> So, generally, I don't wanna veer off topic and start talking Reaper, 
>> or Ivory, so let's keep this as much NVDA as we can. That said, what 
>> are the basic steps required to do OCR on a screen once the OCR addon 
>> has been installed to NVDA? And, can I use NVDA+numpad 7 to get to 
>> screen review, or is it something where with OCR, I'll have! to use 
>> object, no other way.
>> Chris.
> 
> 

Quentin. Our department of Homeland Security in the US dose not recommend all of us here to use Caspar sky due to the Russian hacking to our election last year. I wouldn't pay them phonies a red cent.n

I must admit, on Windows 10, I also use the built in Defender from Microsoft.  This question does come up regularly though, so here are my notes from the last round of conversations on this earlier this year:

There are several anti-virus programs which are accessible with NVDA and some which are partly accessible:

Windows Defender comes with Windows 10 from Microsoft and is accessible.

One user, David Goldfield, has written a comprehensive review of Kaspersky Anti-Virus: https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/

Another user, Gene, has put together a whole site of information and suggestions, including for anti-virus: http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html

Sonos is another anti-virus which has been recommended by some of our users: https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx

If anyone checks those and finds the information out of date, or has others to add, please do chime in!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

Agreed. I just use what comes with my machine which is defender. If you use come sense you won't get a virus.

On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Randy Barnett <randy@...> wrote:

MS Defender is sufficient. I have not had a virus for over 22 years...
Too much hype out there...
On 9/13/2017 2:24 PM, Greg Rhodes wrote:

Looking for an NVDA-friendly paid antivirus program. Suggestions?

 

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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 

----- Original Message -----

From: Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 5:13 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR?

Hi,   nvda and the letter r I can not help any more than this sorry.

On 14/09/2017 21:01, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
> Can you if you have access to it use the OCR now on nvda? I don't
> remember how it works but good luck.
>> On Sep 14, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
>> <clgilland07@... <mailto:clgilland07@...>> wrote:
>>
>> Guys,
>> I've ran into a very very urgent matter which is work related.
>> I can read up more on object nav, and more on the OCR plugin, but at
>> least, can you all help get me up and running with the basics here?
>> What I need is to know... I have a screen which has some controls
>> exposed which NVDA cannot seem to see. Not even with object nav, or
>> screen review.
>> Let me say that I normally prefer screen review over object. I just
>> find it more logical, seeing that I normally use JAWS, so I'm more
>> used to the jaws cursor kind of approach.
>> Anyway, I think we're gonna have to OCR this window to get anywhere so
>> I can see and click the controls. I think once I get to the place to
>> click that'll open the browser window in the screen I need access to,
>> then OCR won't be needed after that point, but I just need to get that
>> one area visible.
>> If any of you are wonderring what this window is, it's the Synthogy
>> Ivory VST plugin window within Reaper. I just need to be able to get
>> to the browser to select and load one of the libraries.
>> So, generally, I don't wanna veer off topic and start talking Reaper,
>> or Ivory, so let's keep this as much NVDA as we can. That said, what
>> are the basic steps required to do OCR on a screen once the OCR addon
>> has been installed to NVDA? And, can I use NVDA+numpad 7 to get to
>> screen review, or is it something where with OCR, I'll have! to use
>> object, no other way.
>> Chris.
>
>

Can you if you have access to it  use the OCR now on nvda? I don't remember how it works but good luck.

On Sep 14, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@gmail.com <mailto:clgilland07@gmail.com>> wrote:

Guys,
I've ran into a very very urgent matter which is work related.
I can read up more on object nav, and more on the OCR plugin, but at least, can you all help get me up and running with the basics here? What I need is to know... I have a screen which has some controls exposed which NVDA cannot seem to see. Not even with object nav, or screen review.
Let me say that I normally prefer screen review over object. I just find it more logical, seeing that I normally use JAWS, so I'm more used to the jaws cursor kind of approach.
Anyway, I think we're gonna have to OCR this window to get anywhere so I can see and click the controls. I think once I get to the place to click that'll open the browser window in the screen I need access to, then OCR won't be needed after that point, but I just need to get that one area visible.
If any of you are wonderring what this window is, it's the Synthogy Ivory VST plugin window within Reaper. I just need to be able to get to the browser to select and load one of the libraries.
So, generally, I don't wanna veer off topic and start talking Reaper, or Ivory, so let's keep this as much NVDA as we can. That said, what are the basic steps required to do OCR on a screen once the OCR addon has been installed to NVDA? And, can I use NVDA+numpad 7 to get to screen review, or is it  something where with OCR, I'll have! to use object, no other way.
Chris.

----- Original Message -----

From: Sarah k Alawami

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 4:41 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR?

No it does not. I actually understood you were using the  cloud OCR add on ocr which actually does work through the whole screen, I think. But the ocr thign for nvda that now ships with the latest nvda snaps only does just what is in front of you, not the whole let's say pdf document you might have opened up in adobe etc.

On Sep 14, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:

Uh, wasn't that what I was asking to use, and how in general to do so? Wasn't that the whole point of my post? Please re-read? Now however, I'm finding that it seems the OCR addon only applies to the current object within focus. I was under the impression that it actually worked over the entire screen, kind a like what Insert+spacebar, then O for OCR, then W for window would do in JFW, which BTW, isn't really helping in this case, hince why I wanted to try, and have been even told! that NVDA would handle this plugin window much much better. God I hope I don't have to get Kontakt, nor Komplete Kontrol! I know those using Ivory without it, so... certainly that would make it easier, but I don't have 11 hundred bucks to shell out, and I doubt most of you all do, either. LOL! If so, anyone wanna buy it for me? LOL! Just kidding, but in all seriousness, that's getting off topic, about Komplete Kontrol, so I'll stop there, but end just by saying, I've been told it's not necessary with Reaper.

 

Maybe with Reaper it is.

 

I know there are some HSC set, but, again, that's not for this list, and I think that only would work in JAWS with Sonar, not Reaper.

---
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Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

 

http://www.gshministry.org
(980) 500-9575

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Sarah k Alawami

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 4:01 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR?

Can you if you have access to it  use the OCR now on nvda? I don't remember how it works but good luck.

On Sep 14, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:

Guys,

 

I've ran into a very very urgent matter which is work related.

 

I can read up more on object nav, and more on the OCR plugin, but at least, can you all help get me up and running with the basics here? What I need is to know... I have a screen which has some controls exposed which NVDA cannot seem to see. Not even with object nav, or screen review.

 

Let me say that I normally prefer screen review over object. I just find it more logical, seeing that I normally use JAWS, so I'm more used to the jaws cursor kind of approach.

 

Anyway, I think we're gonna have to OCR this window to get anywhere so I can see and click the controls. I think once I get to the place to click that'll open the browser window in the screen I need access to, then OCR won't be needed after that point, but I just need to get that one area visible.

 

If any of you are wonderring what this window is, it's the Synthogy Ivory VST plugin window within Reaper. I just need to be able to get to the browser to select and load one of the libraries.

 

So, generally, I don't wanna veer off topic and start talking Reaper, or Ivory, so let's keep this as much NVDA as we can. That said, what are the basic steps required to do OCR on a screen once the OCR addon has been installed to NVDA? And, can I use NVDA+numpad 7 to get to screen review, or is it  something where with OCR, I'll have! to use object, no other way.

 

Chris.

On Sep 14, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:

Uh, wasn't that what I was asking to use, and how in general to do so? Wasn't that the whole point of my post? Please re-read? Now however, I'm finding that it seems the OCR addon only applies to the current object within focus. I was under the impression that it actually worked over the entire screen, kind a like what Insert+spacebar, then O for OCR, then W for window would do in JFW, which BTW, isn't really helping in this case, hince why I wanted to try, and have been even told! that NVDA would handle this plugin window much much better. God I hope I don't have to get Kontakt, nor Komplete Kontrol! I know those using Ivory without it, so... certainly that would make it easier, but I don't have 11 hundred bucks to shell out, and I doubt most of you all do, either. LOL! If so, anyone wanna buy it for me? LOL! Just kidding, but in all seriousness, that's getting off topic, about Komplete Kontrol, so I'll stop there, but end just by saying, I've been told it's not necessary with Reaper.

 

Maybe with Reaper it is.

 

I know there are some HSC set, but, again, that's not for this list, and I think that only would work in JAWS with Sonar, not Reaper.

---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

 

http://www.gshministry.org
(980) 500-9575

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Sarah k Alawami

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 4:01 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR?

Can you if you have access to it  use the OCR now on nvda? I don't remember how it works but good luck.

On Sep 14, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:

Guys,

 

I've ran into a very very urgent matter which is work related.

 

I can read up more on object nav, and more on the OCR plugin, but at least, can you all help get me up and running with the basics here? What I need is to know... I have a screen which has some controls exposed which NVDA cannot seem to see. Not even with object nav, or screen review.

 

Let me say that I normally prefer screen review over object. I just find it more logical, seeing that I normally use JAWS, so I'm more used to the jaws cursor kind of approach.

 

Anyway, I think we're gonna have to OCR this window to get anywhere so I can see and click the controls. I think once I get to the place to click that'll open the browser window in the screen I need access to, then OCR won't be needed after that point, but I just need to get that one area visible.

 

If any of you are wonderring what this window is, it's the Synthogy Ivory VST plugin window within Reaper. I just need to be able to get to the browser to select and load one of the libraries.

 

So, generally, I don't wanna veer off topic and start talking Reaper, or Ivory, so let's keep this as much NVDA as we can. That said, what are the basic steps required to do OCR on a screen once the OCR addon has been installed to NVDA? And, can I use NVDA+numpad 7 to get to screen review, or is it  something where with OCR, I'll have! to use object, no other way.

 

Chris.

----- Original Message -----

From: Sarah k Alawami

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 4:01 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR?

Can you if you have access to it  use the OCR now on nvda? I don't remember how it works but good luck.

On Sep 14, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:

Guys,

 

I've ran into a very very urgent matter which is work related.

 

I can read up more on object nav, and more on the OCR plugin, but at least, can you all help get me up and running with the basics here? What I need is to know... I have a screen which has some controls exposed which NVDA cannot seem to see. Not even with object nav, or screen review.

 

Let me say that I normally prefer screen review over object. I just find it more logical, seeing that I normally use JAWS, so I'm more used to the jaws cursor kind of approach.

 

Anyway, I think we're gonna have to OCR this window to get anywhere so I can see and click the controls. I think once I get to the place to click that'll open the browser window in the screen I need access to, then OCR won't be needed after that point, but I just need to get that one area visible.

 

If any of you are wonderring what this window is, it's the Synthogy Ivory VST plugin window within Reaper. I just need to be able to get to the browser to select and load one of the libraries.

 

So, generally, I don't wanna veer off topic and start talking Reaper, or Ivory, so let's keep this as much NVDA as we can. That said, what are the basic steps required to do OCR on a screen once the OCR addon has been installed to NVDA? And, can I use NVDA+numpad 7 to get to screen review, or is it  something where with OCR, I'll have! to use object, no other way.

 

Chris.

Ditto.
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 9:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Malwarebytes

It isn't perfect, but I was able to do the basics. This included running a scan performing a clean and getting information as things updated. I could wish for better accessibility, but Windows security programs are so fraught, I'm just grateful to have the option of using Malwarebytes. Hope this helps, Eric


On September 14, 2017 8:50:56 AM "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:

I am running NVDA 2017-3 on a Win 10 system. It has been a while since I tried Malwarebytes but the last time I did it was not very accessible with a screen reader. Is that still the case?
Thanks

Travis,

        I'm agnostic about the banning of Kaspersky by the Trump Administration, but the article you point to is 3 years old (almost).  If this were direct punishment for something like this it's highly unlikely it would have taken three years to do it.

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            ~ Niels Bohr

 

 

Do we know what it was written with?
IE is it a port from some other environment, written in Java or what. I have to say, I'd not heard of it.

In the US I don't think they are allowed to us inaccessible software in education.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ângelo Abrantes" <ampa4374@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] blackboard

Some years ago, I tried to work with this software, but NVDA didn't read
absolutely nothing!

Ângelo Abrantes



Às 06:41 de 14-09-2017, Arlene escreveu:

Hi list: Arlene here! Does anybody know if NVDA works with blackboard?
It’s used for schools. Used to set up assignments, tests and other things.

---
Este e-mail foi verificado em termos de vírus pelo software antivírus Avast.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

I must admit, on Windows 10, I also use the built in Defender from Microsoft.  This question does come up regularly though, so here are my notes from the last round of conversations on this earlier this year:

There are several anti-virus programs which are accessible with NVDA and some which are partly accessible:

Windows Defender comes with Windows 10 from Microsoft and is accessible.

One user, David Goldfield, has written a comprehensive review of Kaspersky Anti-Virus: https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/

Another user, Gene, has put together a whole site of information and suggestions, including for anti-virus: http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html

Sonos is another anti-virus which has been recommended by some of our users: https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx

If anyone checks those and finds the information out of date, or has others to add, please do chime in!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

Agreed. I just use what comes with my machine which is defender. If you use come sense you won't get a virus.

On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Randy Barnett <randy@...> wrote:

MS Defender is sufficient. I have not had a virus for over 22 years...
Too much hype out there...
On 9/13/2017 2:24 PM, Greg Rhodes wrote:

Looking for an NVDA-friendly paid antivirus program. Suggestions?

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 

On Sep 14, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:

Guys,

 

I've ran into a very very urgent matter which is work related.

 

I can read up more on object nav, and more on the OCR plugin, but at least, can you all help get me up and running with the basics here? What I need is to know... I have a screen which has some controls exposed which NVDA cannot seem to see. Not even with object nav, or screen review.

 

Let me say that I normally prefer screen review over object. I just find it more logical, seeing that I normally use JAWS, so I'm more used to the jaws cursor kind of approach.

 

Anyway, I think we're gonna have to OCR this window to get anywhere so I can see and click the controls. I think once I get to the place to click that'll open the browser window in the screen I need access to, then OCR won't be needed after that point, but I just need to get that one area visible.

 

If any of you are wonderring what this window is, it's the Synthogy Ivory VST plugin window within Reaper. I just need to be able to get to the browser to select and load one of the libraries.

 

So, generally, I don't wanna veer off topic and start talking Reaper, or Ivory, so let's keep this as much NVDA as we can. That said, what are the basic steps required to do OCR on a screen once the OCR addon has been installed to NVDA? And, can I use NVDA+numpad 7 to get to screen review, or is it  something where with OCR, I'll have! to use object, no other way.

 

Chris.

Hi list: Arlene here! Does anybody know if NVDA works with blackboard?
It's used for schools. Used to set up assignments, tests and other things.

On Sep 14, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Marshall handheld Flax <m.droid.flax@...> wrote:

In general, Openbook usually works fairly well for handling the "scanned" pdfs that professors often upload to Blackboard.  I don't know of a more affordable approach, though :-(

Marshall

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...>wrote:

Yes, I knew a friend on FB was asking if it’s accessable with Jaws. They say it is.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Giles Turnbull
Sent: September-14-17 8:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] blackboard

 

I'm really interested in this thread because I'm intending to go back to Swansea Uni, where I did my BSc in chemistry back in the 1990s, and study for MA in creative writing. I know they use Blackboard so have been browsing around to get an idea about how accessible it is.

From what I've read it should be fine though, as Erik says, it very much depends on the professors using it accessibly. This comes up in an AFB post about how blind students find Blackboard, http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pubnew.asp?DocID=aw160702

I know at Swansea, a UK uni, there is a disability office that handles transcriptions of any textbooks or handouts that aren't available electronically, and will step in if anything accessibility related is hindering your chances of successfully completing your studies. I'm optimistic that Blackboard will be sufficiently useable when I get there :) 

On Sep 14, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Ravi Paswan <ravipaswan32@...> wrote:

hello group member I am facing a problime with using a NVDA I am doing the MS access but NVDA is not supported the MS access program I am try the all MS office version I  have practical  in MS access 2007, 2010, 2013, & 2016 but nvda is not working so please tel me how to solve this problem?