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Re: The github template

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I've just had my knuckles rapped for leaving the template unused. I'll go stand in the corner.
Brian

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From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
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Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] The github template


To upload logs click upload then browse to the zip file wherein they are located. As for the templet I just write my stuff in markdown and it works fine. I never use any template but I write the stuff below or hit del and just fill it in with out the extranious text.
On Sep 21, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I asked this once before but got no answer so here we go. I am having issues with the new github issues reporting system. Two problems. 1, how do you use the template. to me at this end it seems to be one big edit field with a lot of comments already in it, but when I try to position what I want to say in the correct place, the bit I want it to go below tends to all end up in the start bit. Secondly, how do you upload logs. Personally, I'm not in agreement with them being uploaded as attaches as this means anyone browsing the emails will just see the report without the log, but I've been asked to do this and would gladly oblige if I could figure out how to open the dialogue reliably.
Over to the experts and those without finger trouble which I obviously have.
Keep it clear please, I am a simple soul when it comes to figuring out web based interfaces.
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Re: The github template

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It must be something I'm doing wrong then as every time I attempt to get my comments under a heading it seems when I go back up they appear above it.
Its as if the actual position and the position seen by nvda in firefox are somehow out of sync with each other somehow. What I'll do is maximise the window and see if that helps.

Normally, unfortunately, I've been used to testing and keeping a text file open in another window, adding findings as I go and usually then the bit of the log needed. However of course I can still do this and cut and paste the bits as required when on the new issue form, its just that the execution often seems to not go to plan.

Yes some of us are just cack handed!

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] The github template


Hi Brian,

When you press the new issue button, you are taken to a page where the
title edit has focus. Type the title then tab until you get to "comment
body edit". This is an edit field with, as you noted, a big block of text
prompting you for all the necessary information.

There are several ways to go about it. Some people down arrow through that
text, selecting parts as they go (eg steps to reproduce) then delete them
and write your own in. Some leave the headings, delete the example text
and fill their own in, and others type their issue out and select and
delete all the pre-filled block of text. Whichever way you go about it is
up to what works best for you. The idea behind it is to prompt you to
include all the relevant information.

For attaching things, press tab once from that comment field, to the attach
button, press space and it should open a regular file open dialog where you
can find your log file, sample document, or whatever you need to go with
the issue.

Whether you attach the log file, or include a snippet of it in the comment
body itself is up to you, how well you understand the log entries, and how
long the relevant section of the log is. If it's three lines, then by all
means, copy it into the comment itself. If you're not sure what is needed
and want to include the whole log, or want to include a hundred lines, then
it makes it easier for everyone if it is attached rather than pasted in the
body, as someone triaging or looking at the issue can then read through
your comments, and only look at the log if they need to.

For instance, if someone reports a problem to me, I will go and search for
that in the issues. If I find it, I won't generally want to read the logs
immediately, what I will want, is to read the description, to see if the
issue reported here matches the problem someone else is having. If so, I
will look through any other comments to see if there are any workarounds,
or if any work has been done on the issue. At that point, I might double
check that the entries in the logs match.

Kind regards

Quentin.

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bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I asked this once before but got no answer so here we go. I am having
issues with the new github issues reporting system. Two problems. 1, how do
you use the template. to me at this end it seems to be one big edit field
with a lot of comments already in it, but when I try to position what I
want to say in the correct place,the bit I want it to go below tends to
all end up in the start bit. Secondly, how do you upload logs. Personally,
I'm not in agreement with them being uploaded as attaches as this means
anyone browsing the emails will just see the report without the log, but
I've been asked to do this and would gladly oblige if I could figure out
how to open the dialogue reliably.
Over to the experts and those without finger trouble which I obviously
have.
Keep it clear please, I am a simple soul when it comes to figuring out web
based interfaces.
Brian

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Re: Weather Plus 4.5 21.09.2017 update available

Kwork
 


No problem here, and thanks for giving us the choice re: comma vs. point. Much appreciated.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 1:28 PM
Subject: [nvda] Weather Plus 4.5 21.09.2017 update available

Hi to every one,

Changes in this version:
* Correct location and documentation in Serbian.
* Correct the German localization.
#Changes in the Weather Plus Settings window:
* Added new checkbox;
You can enable the comma as the decimal separator, otherwise the separator
will be the point.
And so are all happy. :)
Weather Plus can update alone, however, it is possible to download
manually from the following links:
http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus4.5.nvda-addon
or from page:
http://www.nvda.it/weather-plus/
or from page:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/weatherPlus.en.html

Cheers
Adriano


Re: The github template

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Brian,

When you press the new issue button, you are taken to a page where the title edit has focus.  Type the title then tab until you get to "comment body edit".  This is an edit field with, as you noted, a big block of text prompting you for all the necessary information.

There are several ways to go about it.  Some people down arrow through that text, selecting parts as they go (eg steps to reproduce) then delete them and write your own in.  Some leave the headings, delete the example text and fill their own in, and others type their issue out and select and delete all the pre-filled block of text.  Whichever way you go about it is up to what works best for you.  The idea behind it is to prompt you to include all the relevant information.

For attaching things, press tab once from that comment field, to the attach button, press space and it should open a regular file open dialog where you can find your log file, sample document, or whatever you need to go with the issue.

Whether you attach the log file, or include a snippet of it in the comment body itself is up to you, how well you understand the log entries, and how long the relevant section of the log is.  If it's three lines, then by all means, copy it into the comment itself.  If you're not sure what is needed and want to include the whole log, or want to include a hundred lines, then it makes it easier for everyone if it is attached rather than pasted in the body, as someone triaging or looking at the issue can then read through your comments, and only look at the log if they need to.

For instance, if someone reports a problem to me, I will go and search for that in the issues.  If I find it, I won't generally want to read the logs immediately, what I will want, is to read the description, to see if the issue reported here matches the problem someone else is having.  If so, I will look through any other comments to see if there are any workarounds, or if any work has been done on the issue.  At that point, I might double check that the entries in the logs match.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 4:38 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
I asked this once before but got no answer so here we go. I am having issues with the new github issues reporting system. Two problems. 1, how do you use the template. to me at this end it seems to be one big edit field with a lot of comments already in it, but when I try to position what I want to say in the correct place,the bit I want it to go below  tends to all end up in the start bit. Secondly, how do you upload logs. Personally, I'm not in agreement with them being uploaded as attaches as this means anyone browsing the emails will just see the report without the log, but I've been asked to do this and would gladly oblige if I could figure out how to open the dialogue reliably.
Over to the experts and those without finger trouble which I obviously have.
Keep it clear please, I am a simple soul when it comes to figuring out web based interfaces.
Brian

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Re: Weather Plus 4.5 21.09.2017 update available

Kevin Cussick
 

same here. windows10 latest stable 64 bit.

On 21/09/2017 23:35, Rui Fontes wrote:
Here, installed without problems...
Rui
-----Mensagem Original----- De: Ângelo Abrantes
Data: 21 de setembro de 2017 22:54
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Weather Plus 4.5 21.09.2017 update available
Impossible to install:
Speaking [u'weather_plus4.5.nvda-addon  557 de 572']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (22:51:35.813):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (22:51:35.953):
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\library.zip\gui\addonGui.py:20: DeprecationWarning: object() takes no parameters
ERROR - unhandled exception (22:51:35.973):
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "wx\_core.pyc", line 16766, in <lambda>
 File "gui\addonGui.pyc", line 312, in handleRemoteAddonInstall
 File "gui\addonGui.pyc", line 92, in __init__
 File "gui\addonGui.pyc", line 219, in refreshAddonsList
 File "configobj.pyc", line 583, in __getitem__
KeyError: 'version'
Às 21:28 de 21-09-2017, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io escreveu:
Hi to every one,
Changes in this version:
* Correct location and documentation in Serbian.
* Correct the German localization.
#Changes in the Weather Plus Settings window:
* Added new checkbox;
You can enable the comma as the decimal separator, otherwise the separator
will be the point.
And so are all happy. :)
Weather Plus can update alone, however, it is possible to download
manually from the following links:
http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus4.5.nvda-addon
or from page:
http://www.nvda.it/weather-plus/
or from page:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/weatherPlus.en.html
Cheers
Adriano
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NVDA and Citrix

"Marvin Atkins"
 

Hello all,
 
Does NVDA work with Citrix? My wife may require Citrix in one of her medical transcription contracts. She is using Windows 7 at this time.
 
Thanks,
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Re: Weather Plus 4.5 21.09.2017 update available

Rui Fontes
 

Here, installed without problems...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Ângelo Abrantes
Data: 21 de setembro de 2017 22:54
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Weather Plus 4.5 21.09.2017 update available



Impossible to install:

Speaking [u'weather_plus4.5.nvda-addon 557 de 572']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (22:51:35.813):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (22:51:35.953):
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\library.zip\gui\addonGui.py:20: DeprecationWarning: object() takes no parameters
ERROR - unhandled exception (22:51:35.973):
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 16766, in <lambda>
File "gui\addonGui.pyc", line 312, in handleRemoteAddonInstall
File "gui\addonGui.pyc", line 92, in __init__
File "gui\addonGui.pyc", line 219, in refreshAddonsList
File "configobj.pyc", line 583, in __getitem__
KeyError: 'version'





Às 21:28 de 21-09-2017, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io escreveu:
Hi to every one,

Changes in this version:
* Correct location and documentation in Serbian.
* Correct the German localization.
#Changes in the Weather Plus Settings window:
* Added new checkbox;
You can enable the comma as the decimal separator, otherwise the separator
will be the point.
And so are all happy. :)
Weather Plus can update alone, however, it is possible to download
manually from the following links:
http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus4.5.nvda-addon
or from page:
http://www.nvda.it/weather-plus/
or from page:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/weatherPlus.en.html

Cheers
Adriano



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Re: Weather Plus 4.5 21.09.2017 update available

Ângelo Abrantes
 

Impossible to install:

Speaking [u'weather_plus4.5.nvda-addon  557 de 572']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (22:51:35.813):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (22:51:35.953):
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\library.zip\gui\addonGui.py:20: DeprecationWarning: object() takes no parameters
ERROR - unhandled exception (22:51:35.973):
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "wx\_core.pyc", line 16766, in <lambda>
  File "gui\addonGui.pyc", line 312, in handleRemoteAddonInstall
  File "gui\addonGui.pyc", line 92, in __init__
  File "gui\addonGui.pyc", line 219, in refreshAddonsList
  File "configobj.pyc", line 583, in __getitem__
KeyError: 'version'


Às 21:28 de 21-09-2017, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io escreveu:
Hi to every one,

Changes in this version:
* Correct location and documentation in Serbian.
* Correct the German localization.
#Changes in the Weather Plus Settings window:
* Added new checkbox;
You can enable the comma as the decimal separator, otherwise the separator
will be the point.
And so are all happy. :)
Weather Plus can update alone, however, it is possible to download
manually from the following links:
http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus4.5.nvda-addon
or from page:
http://www.nvda.it/weather-plus/
or from page:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/weatherPlus.en.html

Cheers
Adriano


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Re: Some accessible free radio streamer

Chris
 

I repeat from version 2.0.6 it states changes no longer free that’s it read it

 

 


Re: Some accessible free radio streamer

Gene
 

That's as good evidence as you can get.  It's really unfortunate.  I guess at least you have to give the developer credit.  He isn't making the program free by foisting all sorts of malware on users in sneaky ways.  I'm curious if other list members know of other good free aggregator programs. 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
From: brian
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some accessible free radio streamer

    When you install the latest version of tapin radio it does say this softwhear is no longer free do you want to continu? If you do chose to continu you will get a 14 day trial so you can see what stations work and what stations won't. 

Brian Sackrider


On 9/21/2017 3:34 PM, Chris wrote:

Just checked the raimersoft site and in the change log since v2.0.6 it says no longer free

 

 

http://www.raimersoft.co/TapinRadio_whatsnew.aspx

 

 

as far as I can see the pro version still works ok, although no updates in a while

 



Re: Microsoft Speech Platform

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


I do have the whole package of voices for speech platform if you are interested along with the run time tingy to get those voices working.


I just looked on my windows 10 creators update machine and there under the synth section is one for speech platform so i have it installed.

I only have the one voice installed called sarah but i could install more if i can see it.


if you are interested i can drop box them.

They are the complete set so will have other languages as well apart from english.


Gene nz




On 9/21/2017 11:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
Is MS Speech Platform still compatible with NVDA? It's been several 
years since I first installed it and I've changed computers and NVDA's 
interface has changed and I don't know if it's still possible to install 
Speech Platform in it, which makes me a bit sad because I like those 
voices, just not as a default. I've also forgotten how to install them 
in NVDA and I can see they're not addon packages, so...





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Re: Some accessible free radio streamer

brian
 

    When you install the latest version of tapin radio it does say this softwhear is no longer free do you want to continu? If you do chose to continu you will get a 14 day trial so you can see what stations work and what stations won't. 

Brian Sackrider


On 9/21/2017 3:34 PM, Chris wrote:

Just checked the raimersoft site and in the change log since v2.0.6 it says no longer free

 

 

http://www.raimersoft.co/TapinRadio_whatsnew.aspx

 

 

as far as I can see the pro version still works ok, although no updates in a while

 



Weather Plus 4.5 21.09.2017 update available

Adriano Barbieri
 

 Hi to every one,

Changes in this version:
* Correct location and documentation in Serbian.
* Correct the German localization.
#Changes in the Weather Plus Settings window:
* Added new checkbox;
You can enable the comma as the decimal separator, otherwise the separator
will be the point.
And so are all happy. :)
Weather Plus can update alone, however, it is possible to download
manually from the following links:
http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus4.5.nvda-addon
or from page:
http://www.nvda.it/weather-plus/
or from page:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/weatherPlus.en.html

Cheers
Adriano


Re: Some accessible free radio streamer

Gene
 

It doesn't say the program is no longer free and I doubt that would be in the change log.  it is referring to one or more features that are no longer free.  That is how I understood the log when I looked at it yesterday.  If you can provide a quote which supports your interpretation, I'll consider it.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some accessible free radio streamer

Just checked the raimersoft site and in the change log since v2.0.6 it says no longer free

 

 

http://www.raimersoft.co/TapinRadio_whatsnew.aspx

 

 

as far as I can see the pro version still works ok, although no updates in a while

 


Re: Some accessible free radio streamer

Chris
 

Just checked the raimersoft site and in the change log since v2.0.6 it says no longer free

 

 

http://www.raimersoft.co/TapinRadio_whatsnew.aspx

 

 

as far as I can see the pro version still works ok, although no updates in a while

 


Re: The github template

Sarah k Alawami
 

To upload logs click upload then browse to the zip file wherein they are located. As for the templet I just write my stuff in markdown and it works fine. I never use any template but I write the stuff below or hit del and just fill it in with out the extranious text.

On Sep 21, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I asked this once before but got no answer so here we go. I am having issues with the new github issues reporting system. Two problems. 1, how do you use the template. to me at this end it seems to be one big edit field with a lot of comments already in it, but when I try to position what I want to say in the correct place, the bit I want it to go below tends to all end up in the start bit. Secondly, how do you upload logs. Personally, I'm not in agreement with them being uploaded as attaches as this means anyone browsing the emails will just see the report without the log, but I've been asked to do this and would gladly oblige if I could figure out how to open the dialogue reliably.
Over to the experts and those without finger trouble which I obviously have.
Keep it clear please, I am a simple soul when it comes to figuring out web based interfaces.
Brian

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The github template

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I asked this once before but got no answer so here we go. I am having issues with the new github issues reporting system. Two problems. 1, how do you use the template. to me at this end it seems to be one big edit field with a lot of comments already in it, but when I try to position what I want to say in the correct place,the bit I want it to go below tends to all end up in the start bit. Secondly, how do you upload logs. Personally, I'm not in agreement with them being uploaded as attaches as this means anyone browsing the emails will just see the report without the log, but I've been asked to do this and would gladly oblige if I could figure out how to open the dialogue reliably.
Over to the experts and those without finger trouble which I obviously have.
Keep it clear please, I am a simple soul when it comes to figuring out web based interfaces.
Brian

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Re: Microsoft Speech Platform

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If its installed NVDA will use it. I also know that pico and the cdectalk one and sappi 4 still run at least in windows 7, though of course with the limitations that they are old.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Speech Platform


Is MS Speech Platform still compatible with NVDA? It's been several
years since I first installed it and I've changed computers and NVDA's
interface has changed and I don't know if it's still possible to install
Speech Platform in it, which makes me a bit sad because I like those
voices, just not as a default. I've also forgotten how to install them
in NVDA and I can see they're not addon packages, so...




Re: Microsoft Speech Platform

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well before my old Win 10 machine went pop I had the 32 bit speech platform working on that machine so unless Microsoft have made a whoopsy..
if I recall you just needed the main file and the other two voice files installed. I might still have them floating about.
Brian

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From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Speech Platform


Is MS Speech Platform still compatible with NVDA? It's been several
years since I first installed it and I've changed computers and NVDA's
interface has changed and I don't know if it's still possible to install
Speech Platform in it, which makes me a bit sad because I like those
voices, just not as a default. I've also forgotten how to install them
in NVDA and I can see they're not addon packages, so...




Re: Some accessible free radio streamer

Gene
 

I looked briefly at the site.  It doesn't offer over air radio stations.  It offers different genres where one or more people choose what to play in the category you are listening to.  So, it's sort of like Internet only radio stations.  Some people may want to try the site.  The person who asked the original question may wish to but it doesn't match either criteria he listed.  It isn't actual over air stations and it provides no recording ability as a part of the site.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some accessible free radio streamer

although it is browser-driven, what do you think about


www.radiotunes.com


On 9/20/2017 8:59 PM, Gene wrote:
There is a program called Tapin Radio but I don't know how useful it is any longer.  I can still get the stations I want to get in The United States using it, but I saw a message on a list saying that a lot of stations can't be used by the program any more because of some sort of license restrictions the stations have.  However, if you want to try it, I or others can provide more information about it.  That is the only such program I use and you can see what you can pick up. 
 
I understand that you want to record but you might get a better selection of stations using the Bill Sparks site.  Also, if you know how, you can add Bill Sparks links to Tapin Radio. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Marco Oros
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 1:47 PM
Subject: [nvda] Some accessible free radio streamer

Hi!

I would like to find also some accessible software for listening and
recording radio station streaming, which is for free and accessible for
NVDA users.

Please, could You help me?

Thank You.

Marco Oros





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