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Re: Actilino Braille Display

Felix G.
 

Instructions are included on how to patch an existing installation.
Kind regards,
Felix

Felix G. <constantlyvariable@...> schrieb am Sa., 23. Sep. 2017 um 11:37 Uhr:

Hello!
I am personally in charge of this file. It was not ready for release at the time NVDA 2017.3 was code-frozen, so I created a custom version of the setup which would include it.
I'm on vacation right now but on Tuesday I will create a ticket containing that version of the dll so it can be easily located, and so that it can be included in masters.
There will soon be another major update to the driver which will speed things up considerably.
Feel free to also contact me, or Help Tech, directly if there are any questions.
Kind regards,
Felix
George Zaynoun <humorlessgeza@...> schrieb am Sa. 23. Sep. 2017 um 09:57:
This new Braille display from Helptech formerly Handytech does not work
with NVDA unless one downloads a copy of NVDA from Helptech. That copy
works and they made their own NVDA release for it, I have that copy but
it is 2017.2 and upgrading it results in no Braille output. Who is
responsible for fixing this issue, Helptech or can NVDA devs extract
the driver so that it works with regular NVDA release? I am willing to
send this copy of NVDA to who it may concern.

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Tel: +46 (500) 48 29 29 +46 (500) 43 55 11




Re: NVDA voices

Lino Morales
 

Are you talking about the DECTalk add-on. That's not an authorized add-on.

On 9/19/2017 10:12 PM, Don H wrote:
I have always thought that the E speak voice is terrible.  I only switched to NVDA after I found out that there was the Access32 syn that sounded just like the syn I had used for twenty years with Window Eyes.  On my system I have removed Window Eyes and do have Jaws installed only because it was a free switch from Window Eyes.  I find NVDA with the Access32 syn meets all my needs and don't use Jaws as I don't think it is as good as NVDA.  That is my Opinion and I am a expert on my Opinion.  So if you don't like E Speak and don't want to pay for more voices give Access32 for NVDA a try.




Re: Problems with IE - nothing speaks

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Yes when it sees a change it recompiles the files. The problem is that the error that can be generated this way will be pretty hard to understand. I really have to say, always have a working copy somewhere as a portable, and I tend to put a desktop shortcut to that set with a specific hot key and also run a batch file that closes the old copy down before it launches the new version, just in case its stuck.

@echo off
start /w nvda.exe -q
start nvda.exe

Use this as the nvda.bat and put it into the folder of the portable copy and make a shortcut to it and there you are.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with IE - nothing speaks


hi.
do reinstall nvda.
i have your experience.
i deleted some pyo files that i thought they are not essential, after
deleteing each one, i realized that nvda even did not start!
also one time, delete one line from global commands.pyo and recieve
the same result!
hope that help, God bless you.

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I think I'd try this first, and then do a system restart, it would also be
instructive to know if it works with other browsers or indeed with a
portable copy of nvda as well.

The problem is with any changes to files in nvda, sometimes the system can
complile them and put them elsewhere for execution. If its still there you
might need to take your system set up folder away, uninstall nvda
completely, clean out all folders then reinstall and copy your system
settings back. This is where a portable version can be used to see if its
nvda or not. Its pretty obvious that if it works in the portable version and

not in the main one, then the main one is screwed up.
I have just had to do this with the master snapshot, but I got away with
looking at file dates and only deleting the most recently updated ones and
letting nvda fix the rest.
Brian

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From: "Pettyjohn, Chris G. (FTC)" <Chris.Pettyjohn@va.gov>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with IE - nothing speaks


i created the iexplore.py file. I was experimenting on an app module for a
specific website. i only had a keystroke binded to a method. The method
displayed a message box with the foreground windows name in it. So i don't
think deleting a file i created can be the problem. But who knows. Should i

reinstall NVDA?





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best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: Actilino Braille Display

Felix G.
 

Hello!
I am personally in charge of this file. It was not ready for release at the time NVDA 2017.3 was code-frozen, so I created a custom version of the setup which would include it.
I'm on vacation right now but on Tuesday I will create a ticket containing that version of the dll so it can be easily located, and so that it can be included in masters.
There will soon be another major update to the driver which will speed things up considerably.
Feel free to also contact me, or Help Tech, directly if there are any questions.
Kind regards,
Felix
George Zaynoun <humorlessgeza@...> schrieb am Sa. 23. Sep. 2017 um 09:57:

This new Braille display from Helptech formerly Handytech does not work
with NVDA unless one downloads a copy of NVDA from Helptech. That copy
works and they made their own NVDA release for it, I have that copy but
it is 2017.2 and upgrading it results in no Braille output. Who is
responsible for fixing this issue, Helptech or can NVDA devs extract
the driver so that it works with regular NVDA release? I am willing to
send this copy of NVDA to who it may concern.

--
Georges Zeinoun
Timmerv. 6A ITR LGH1102, 54163 SKÖVDE    SWEDEN
Tel: +46 (500) 48 29 29 +46 (500) 43 55 11




Re: Problems with IE - nothing speaks

 

hi.
do reinstall nvda.
i have your experience.
i deleted some pyo files that i thought they are not essential, after
deleteing each one, i realized that nvda even did not start!
also one time, delete one line from global commands.pyo and recieve
the same result!
hope that help, God bless you.

On 9/23/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I think I'd try this first, and then do a system restart, it would also be
instructive to know if it works with other browsers or indeed with a
portable copy of nvda as well.

The problem is with any changes to files in nvda, sometimes the system can
complile them and put them elsewhere for execution. If its still there you
might need to take your system set up folder away, uninstall nvda
completely, clean out all folders then reinstall and copy your system
settings back. This is where a portable version can be used to see if its
nvda or not. Its pretty obvious that if it works in the portable version and

not in the main one, then the main one is screwed up.
I have just had to do this with the master snapshot, but I got away with
looking at file dates and only deleting the most recently updated ones and
letting nvda fix the rest.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pettyjohn, Chris G. (FTC)" <Chris.Pettyjohn@va.gov>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with IE - nothing speaks


i created the iexplore.py file. I was experimenting on an app module for a
specific website. i only had a keystroke binded to a method. The method
displayed a message box with the foreground windows name in it. So i don't
think deleting a file i created can be the problem. But who knows. Should i

reinstall NVDA?





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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: using facebook

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I think any social media platform for us has issues as we are coming in late and do not know how to restrict the crud and all the clever stuff so we only see what we want to see and also of course only allow others to see what we want them to see as well. So many blind friends have had their fingers burned on these sites by bullying or indeed by off the cuff comments that have been seen by important folk like employers or family and friends.
There are dangers out there.
I was never brought up with this concept, but a lot of the younger nvda users here have always known this stuff. I use Usenet, and always have done. We all know that is open and public but when it comes to Facebook, and to a lesser extent, Twitter, its unfortunately alot easier for folk to find you.
Brian

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From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] using facebook


Well I made a decision that I wouldn't tweat much, I mean my life revovles around a pc but still I refuse to spend it reading tweats even though I do read a few.




On 23/09/2017 7:37 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I think social media is a time management issue. I find better things to do with my time than to wrestle with facebook. That is all. I'm not going to say I'll never use it, but for what use I could make of it a huge learning curve appears to be needed by any user without sight.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@softcon.com>
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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] using facebook


It's extremely easy to navigate, but the facebook mobile page doesn't have everything the main facebook page has, or sometimes it does, but it's burried somewhere, and good luck finding it. It's nearly impossible to do everything I want to do when using the mobile version of the page, so I gave it up for useless years ago. Admittedly, the regular page is a hassle, and sometimes it's slow as all get out, but it works, and in the long run that's all that matters.

Of course, I use face book as little as possible, so your mileage may vary.


On 9/22/2017 3:47 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Brian their is nothing wrong with teh Facebook Mobile site. It has HTML headings etc. Its easy to navigate.


On 9/19/2017 7:26 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes I gave up even trying to understand it, Even on the mobile site.
Is there a blind friendly client for any of the so called social media sites that are easy to use?
I don't want them to rule my life, but of late so much information I'm expected to know about is on Twitter or Facebook its beginning to look like I'll have to bite the bullet again. Maybe I can employ a young person to do it for me!
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 11:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] using facebook


hi,

How do you guys use facebook with nvda? In particular, searching group posts and viewing the results, but most actions seem laggy. Also, nvda randomly jumps around on the page.














Actilino Braille Display

George Zaynoun
 

This new Braille display from Helptech formerly Handytech does not work with NVDA unless one downloads a copy of NVDA from Helptech. That copy works and they made their own NVDA release for it, I have that copy but it is 2017.2 and upgrading it results in no Braille output. Who is responsible for fixing this issue, Helptech or can NVDA devs extract the driver so that it works with regular NVDA release? I am willing to send this copy of NVDA to who it may concern.

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Tel: +46 (500) 48 29 29 +46 (500) 43 55 11


Re: Microsoft Speech Platform

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Yes most certainly a nice voice, but a little sluggish in xp, but OK for reading, ie profile set up as say all.
One thing though, you may find it says some words oddly so some experimentation in the voice dictionary is needed.
It nearly always says my name as Brian and so I changed it to say Bryan instead!

Brian

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From: "mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo" <ochikodinaka@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 3:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Speech Platform


hello hello hello yes it works nvda works with speech Microsoft hazal
it works its instolled on my computer

On 9/22/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
Hi


The package is in a zip format it is about 300 meg or so for the whole
package. There is a run time file you need to click on and after that it is
the tts voices need to be installed.

The link to the drop boxs account is
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zthyyh9kef7repx/Speech%20Platform%2011%20engine%20and%20voices.zip?dl=0


I also have the speech hub package but the add on needs to be installed
after speech hub has been installed.


the add on can be found under the following section in windows c: drive then
program files x86 then speech hub then nvda add on then just do the usual to
install it the add on i mean.


the drop box link is
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zzgos2mu38ss3i1/SpeechHubInstall.exe?dl=0


On 9/22/2017 10:39 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
does it work on Windows 7?

From: Gene New Zealand<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Speech Platform


Hi



I do have the whole package of voices for speech platform if you are
interested along with the run time tingy to get those voices working.



I just looked on my windows 10 creators update machine and there under the
synth section is one for speech platform so i have it installed.

I only have the one voice installed called sarah but i could install more if
i can see it.



if you are interested i can drop box them.

They are the complete set so will have other languages as well apart from
english.



Gene nz





On 9/21/2017 11:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:

Is MS Speech Platform still compatible with NVDA? It's been several
years since I first installed it and I've changed computers and NVDA's
interface has changed and I don't know if it's still possible to install
Speech Platform in it, which makes me a bit sad because I like those
voices, just not as a default. I've also forgotten how to install them
in NVDA and I can see they're not addon packages, so...






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People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
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Re: Netflix site?

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That seems a little odd. I don't get the connection at all.
Brian

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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Netflix site?


Hi, all fixed now.
Just had to clear cookies.
On 9/22/2017 4:28 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi


Where do you mean on the out side of the website or the inside where the movies are?


I was in there a couple of days ago watching the old doctor who.


Gene nz



On 9/23/2017 5:57 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
Is it just me, or have all the headings disappeared.

Using the latest version of chrome, and NVDA.



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Re: Problems with IE - nothing speaks

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I think I'd try this first, and then do a system restart, it would also be instructive to know if it works with other browsers or indeed with a portable copy of nvda as well.

The problem is with any changes to files in nvda, sometimes the system can complile them and put them elsewhere for execution. If its still there you might need to take your system set up folder away, uninstall nvda completely, clean out all folders then reinstall and copy your system settings back. This is where a portable version can be used to see if its nvda or not. Its pretty obvious that if it works in the portable version and not in the main one, then the main one is screwed up.
I have just had to do this with the master snapshot, but I got away with looking at file dates and only deleting the most recently updated ones and letting nvda fix the rest.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pettyjohn, Chris G. (FTC)" <Chris.Pettyjohn@va.gov>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with IE - nothing speaks


i created the iexplore.py file. I was experimenting on an app module for a specific website. i only had a keystroke binded to a method. The method displayed a message box with the foreground windows name in it. So i don't think deleting a file i created can be the problem. But who knows. Should i reinstall NVDA?


Re: using facebook

 

Well I made a decision that I wouldn't tweat much, I mean my life revovles around a pc but still I refuse to spend it reading tweats even though I do read a few.

On 23/09/2017 7:37 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I think social media is a time management issue. I find better things to do with my time than to wrestle with facebook. That is all. I'm not going to say I'll never use it, but for what use I could make of it a huge learning curve appears to be needed by any user without sight.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@softcon.com>
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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] using facebook


It's extremely easy to navigate, but the facebook mobile page doesn't have everything the main facebook page has, or sometimes it does, but it's burried somewhere, and good luck finding it. It's nearly impossible to do everything I want to do when using the mobile version of the page, so I gave it up for useless years ago. Admittedly, the regular page is a hassle, and sometimes it's slow as all get out, but it works, and in the long run that's all that matters.

Of course, I use face book as little as possible, so your mileage may vary.


On 9/22/2017 3:47 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Brian their is nothing wrong with teh Facebook Mobile site. It has HTML headings etc. Its easy to navigate.


On 9/19/2017 7:26 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes I gave up even trying to understand it, Even on the mobile site.
Is there a blind friendly client for any of the so called social media sites that are easy to use?
I don't want them to rule my life, but of late so much information I'm expected to know about is on Twitter or Facebook its beginning to look like I'll have to bite the bullet again. Maybe I can employ a young person to do it for me!
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 11:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] using facebook


hi,

How do you guys use facebook with nvda? In particular, searching group posts and viewing the results, but most actions seem laggy. Also, nvda randomly jumps around on the page.













Re: vocalizer voices (got it partly figured out)

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It looks to me like somebody altered a page and the original one has not updated to reflect the change. A common issue on the web unfortunately.
brian

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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer voices (got it partly figured out)


I can't stand ESpeak either Travis, but I know the page you are talking about. Yes poorly designed.


On 9/19/2017 3:49 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
I have to say, the web page where the nvda plugin is up for download is terrible. According to the site (and I quote).

Once the Add-on is installed along with NVDA, you can select either Code Factory Eloquence or Code Factory Vocalizer in the NVDA Synthesizer dialog and then select the preferred language in the NVDA Voice dialog.


Yeah, only this doesn't work for vocalizer voices. It works just fine for eloquence voice (which btw, I can't stand), but apparently, for vocalizer voices, you need to go to another page (not linked to anywhere on the NVDA plugins page), and download the voices you want to use. This is pretty poor page design, especially since there is no mention anywhere on the page that voices need to be downloaded.

But, just for reference, downloading the voices I wanted didn't change my circle of errors, I'm still getting the thanks for using, and telling me that pressing ok will start the install process, (which btw doesn't). Installing the samantha voice separately also doesn't solve my problem, I can select vocolizer in the code factory menu, but when going to synthesizer and selecting vocalizer is how I get into that nice endless error circle, so there is definitely still work that needs done on these voices. I'd be demanding my money back with no doubt if I'd had this experience after paying for these things. The seven day trial is nice, but it isn't of any use to me, because nothing here is working, so I'm just going to write it all off as a bad idea and go back to being content with my espeak ivan 3 voice.






Re: Problems with IE - nothing speaks

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Reinstall nvda then.

Never delete or mess with a file unless you can restore it. I always keep a portable version of the current config so I can just reinstall over any mess I might make.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with IE - nothing speaks


Oh boy, I hear nothing with NVDA+spacebar.

Recently I was seeing if i could create an app module for IE and certain websites so I had an iexplorer.py file in the app module folder. But i deleted that and the .pyo file when i noticed issues.


Re: using facebook

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I think social media is a time management issue. I find better things to do with my time than to wrestle with facebook. That is all. I'm not going to say I'll never use it, but for what use I could make of it a huge learning curve appears to be needed by any user without sight.
Brian

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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] using facebook


It's extremely easy to navigate, but the facebook mobile page doesn't have everything the main facebook page has, or sometimes it does, but it's burried somewhere, and good luck finding it. It's nearly impossible to do everything I want to do when using the mobile version of the page, so I gave it up for useless years ago. Admittedly, the regular page is a hassle, and sometimes it's slow as all get out, but it works, and in the long run that's all that matters.

Of course, I use face book as little as possible, so your mileage may vary.


On 9/22/2017 3:47 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Brian their is nothing wrong with teh Facebook Mobile site. It has HTML headings etc. Its easy to navigate.


On 9/19/2017 7:26 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes I gave up even trying to understand it, Even on the mobile site.
Is there a blind friendly client for any of the so called social media sites that are easy to use?
I don't want them to rule my life, but of late so much information I'm expected to know about is on Twitter or Facebook its beginning to look like I'll have to bite the bullet again. Maybe I can employ a young person to do it for me!
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@gmail.com>
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Subject: [nvda] using facebook


hi,

How do you guys use facebook with nvda? In particular, searching group posts and viewing the results, but most actions seem laggy. Also, nvda randomly jumps around on the page.










Re: development list for NVDA

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It sure does, but increasingly the interesting discussions seem to be in githubs issues tracker.
The dev list is.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Governor staten" <govsta@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 6:20 AM
Subject: [nvda] development list for NVDA


I thought that this does exist. I'm not sure if it does anymore. Correct
me if I am wrong. I'd like to join it.


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development list for NVDA

 

I thought that this does exist. I'm not sure if it does anymore. Correct me if I am wrong. I'd like to join it.






Re: tw-blue

David Moore
 

Yes it is!

David Moore

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From: The Wolf
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] tw-blue

 

is it free?

 

On 9/22/2017 8:37 PM, Kwork wrote:

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:59 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] tw-blue

 

FYI, The Qube is now back up and being developed once again!  It's not on the old Quartizer site so just Google it and you'll find it.

Roger







On 9/22/2017 2:51 PM, Andy wrote:

If you ever used Qwitter or the Qube, it's almost identicle to those.

 

Andy

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:46 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] tw-blue

 

Hello Anthony, I also recomend you to read TWBlu's user guide. At present, TWBlu's interface is translated into 20 languages and its documentation is translated into 9 of them.

Cheers,

Florian

 

 

 


Re: tw-blue

 

is it free?


On 9/22/2017 8:37 PM, Kwork wrote:
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tw-blue

FYI, The Qube is now back up and being developed once again!  It's not on the old Quartizer site so just Google it and you'll find it.

Roger







On 9/22/2017 2:51 PM, Andy wrote:
If you ever used Qwitter or the Qube, it's almost identicle to those.
 
Andy
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tw-blue

Hello Anthony, I also recomend you to read TWBlu's user guide. At present, TWBlu's interface is translated into 20 languages and its documentation is translated into 9 of them.
Cheers,
Florian




Re: tw-blue

Kwork
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tw-blue

FYI, The Qube is now back up and being developed once again!  It's not on the old Quartizer site so just Google it and you'll find it.

Roger







On 9/22/2017 2:51 PM, Andy wrote:
If you ever used Qwitter or the Qube, it's almost identicle to those.
 
Andy
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tw-blue

Hello Anthony, I also recomend you to read TWBlu's user guide. At present, TWBlu's interface is translated into 20 languages and its documentation is translated into 9 of them.
Cheers,
Florian



Re: tw-blue

Kwork
 


That is no longer true about The Qube. An updated version, 0.88, just came out on Sept 21, and it works great.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
From: Rémy Ruiz
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tw-blue

Hi Andy,

Qwitter or the Qube are not supported any more!

in a few well-chosen TW Blue!
Cheers since France.
Rémy
Le 22/09/2017 à 21:51, Andy a écrit :
If you ever used Qwitter or the Qube, it's almost identicle to those.
 
Andy
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tw-blue

Hello Anthony, I also recomend you to read TWBlu's user guide. At present, TWBlu's interface is translated into 20 languages and its documentation is translated into 9 of them.
Cheers,
Florian