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Re: vocalizer voices (got it partly figured out)

Gene
 

Asking the same questions repeatedly won't help you get rid of E-Speak.  (spelling)  You've done the same things for months and it has accomplished nothing.  Would you walk around the same block thirty times if you weren't getting closer to your destination?  You have been given sources to check for voices.  Use the sources you have been given. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer voices (got it partly figured out)

sorry I hate e speak it is borning

On 9/23/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> I mean just don't ask questions that have been repeatedly asked by the same
> person in an unreasonably close together period of time.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: Lino Morales
> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 7:22 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer voices (got it partly figured out)
>
>
> We listers said this about 10000000000000000000000000000000 times
> already and I'm tired of repeating myself also. Use! the! supplyed!
> SSAPI 5! voices! or the one core! Sheesh!
>
>
> On 9/22/2017 10:47 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo wrote:
>> if we cant stand e speak how do we get a free NVDA voice
>>
>> On 9/22/17, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
>>> I can't stand ESpeak either Travis, but I know the page you are talking
>>> about. Yes poorly designed.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/19/2017 3:49 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
>>>> I have to say, the web page where the nvda plugin is up for download
>>>> is terrible.  According to the site (and I quote).
>>>>
>>>> Once the Add-on is installed along with NVDA, you can select either
>>>> Code Factory Eloquence or Code Factory Vocalizer in the NVDA
>>>> Synthesizer dialog and then select the preferred language in the NVDA
>>>> Voice dialog.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, only this doesn't work for vocalizer voices.  It works just fine
>>>> for eloquence voice (which btw, I can't stand), but apparently, for
>>>> vocalizer voices, you need to go to another page (not linked to
>>>> anywhere on the NVDA plugins page), and download the voices you want
>>>> to use.  This is pretty poor page design, especially since there is no
>>>> mention anywhere on the page that voices need to be downloaded.
>>>>
>>>> But, just for reference, downloading the voices I wanted didn't change
>>>> my circle of errors, I'm still getting the thanks for using, and
>>>> telling me that pressing ok will start the install process, (which btw
>>>> doesn't).  Installing the samantha voice separately also doesn't solve
>>>> my problem, I can select vocolizer in the code factory menu, but when
>>>> going to synthesizer and selecting vocalizer is how I get into that
>>>> nice endless error circle, so there is definitely still work that
>>>> needs done on these voices.  I'd be demanding my money back with no
>>>> doubt if I'd had this experience after paying for these things.  The
>>>> seven day trial is nice, but it isn't of any use to me, because
>>>> nothing here is working, so I'm just going to write it all off as a
>>>> bad idea and go back to being content with my espeak ivan 3 voice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>


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Re: vocalizer voices (got it partly figured out)

Gene
 

I don't know why you unendingly ask the same questions over and over again.  Nothing is likely to change over a short period of time, but if it does, it will likely be on the NVDA voices page and maybe discussed here.  Do you think you are going to magically get a different answer by asking the same questions over and over every time any thread about voices comes up? 
 
You have been given the resource that lists voices and that is updated by NVDA developers or volunteers from time to time.  That is, the web page where NVDA developers or volunteers who work on the page list voices, either for free or paid.  Read the information.  There may be links for more information about various voices, I haven't looked at the page enough to know.  Try the ones you want.  If you want to know if there are new fvoices, check the page as often as you want.  But stop asking repeatedly here.  Once every six months may be alright.  No more often.  If you keep replying to thread after thread with the same questions concerning voices, I shall moderate you.  I'll approve questions that you haven't asked repeatedly but not the same questions that you ask unendingly. 
 
Your constant repetitive questions annoy many list members and cause useless unnecessary traffic. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer voices (got it partly figured out)

any other NVDA voices for free

On 9/23/17, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
> We listers said this about 10000000000000000000000000000000 times
> already and I'm tired of repeating myself also. Use! the! supplyed!
> SSAPI 5! voices! or the one core! Sheesh!
>
>
> On 9/22/2017 10:47 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo wrote:
>> if we cant stand e speak how do we get a free NVDA voice
>>
>> On 9/22/17, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
>>> I can't stand ESpeak either Travis, but I know the page you are talking
>>> about. Yes poorly designed.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/19/2017 3:49 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
>>>> I have to say, the web page where the nvda plugin is up for download
>>>> is terrible.  According to the site (and I quote).
>>>>
>>>> Once the Add-on is installed along with NVDA, you can select either
>>>> Code Factory Eloquence or Code Factory Vocalizer in the NVDA
>>>> Synthesizer dialog and then select the preferred language in the NVDA
>>>> Voice dialog.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, only this doesn't work for vocalizer voices.  It works just fine
>>>> for eloquence voice (which btw, I can't stand), but apparently, for
>>>> vocalizer voices, you need to go to another page (not linked to
>>>> anywhere on the NVDA plugins page), and download the voices you want
>>>> to use.  This is pretty poor page design, especially since there is no
>>>> mention anywhere on the page that voices need to be downloaded.
>>>>
>>>> But, just for reference, downloading the voices I wanted didn't change
>>>> my circle of errors, I'm still getting the thanks for using, and
>>>> telling me that pressing ok will start the install process, (which btw
>>>> doesn't).  Installing the samantha voice separately also doesn't solve
>>>> my problem, I can select vocolizer in the code factory menu, but when
>>>> going to synthesizer and selecting vocalizer is how I get into that
>>>> nice endless error circle, so there is definitely still work that
>>>> needs done on these voices.  I'd be demanding my money back with no
>>>> doubt if I'd had this experience after paying for these things.  The
>>>> seven day trial is nice, but it isn't of any use to me, because
>>>> nothing here is working, so I'm just going to write it all off as a
>>>> bad idea and go back to being content with my espeak ivan 3 voice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: vocalizer voices (got it partly figured out)

mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo <ochikodinaka@...>
 

sorry I hate e speak it is borning

On 9/23/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I mean just don't ask questions that have been repeatedly asked by the same
person in an unreasonably close together period of time.

Gene
----- Original Message -----


From: Lino Morales
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 7:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer voices (got it partly figured out)


We listers said this about 10000000000000000000000000000000 times
already and I'm tired of repeating myself also. Use! the! supplyed!
SSAPI 5! voices! or the one core! Sheesh!


On 9/22/2017 10:47 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo wrote:
if we cant stand e speak how do we get a free NVDA voice

On 9/22/17, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:
I can't stand ESpeak either Travis, but I know the page you are talking
about. Yes poorly designed.


On 9/19/2017 3:49 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
I have to say, the web page where the nvda plugin is up for download
is terrible. According to the site (and I quote).

Once the Add-on is installed along with NVDA, you can select either
Code Factory Eloquence or Code Factory Vocalizer in the NVDA
Synthesizer dialog and then select the preferred language in the NVDA
Voice dialog.


Yeah, only this doesn't work for vocalizer voices. It works just fine
for eloquence voice (which btw, I can't stand), but apparently, for
vocalizer voices, you need to go to another page (not linked to
anywhere on the NVDA plugins page), and download the voices you want
to use. This is pretty poor page design, especially since there is no
mention anywhere on the page that voices need to be downloaded.

But, just for reference, downloading the voices I wanted didn't change
my circle of errors, I'm still getting the thanks for using, and
telling me that pressing ok will start the install process, (which btw
doesn't). Installing the samantha voice separately also doesn't solve
my problem, I can select vocolizer in the code factory menu, but when
going to synthesizer and selecting vocalizer is how I get into that
nice endless error circle, so there is definitely still work that
needs done on these voices. I'd be demanding my money back with no
doubt if I'd had this experience after paying for these things. The
seven day trial is nice, but it isn't of any use to me, because
nothing here is working, so I'm just going to write it all off as a
bad idea and go back to being content with my espeak ivan 3 voice.









--
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Re: vocalizer voices (got it partly figured out)

Gene
 

I mean just don't ask questions that have been repeatedly asked by the same person in an unreasonably close together period of time. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer voices (got it partly figured out)

We listers said this about 10000000000000000000000000000000 times
already and I'm tired of repeating myself also. Use! the! supplyed!
SSAPI 5! voices! or the one core! Sheesh!


On 9/22/2017 10:47 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo wrote:
> if we cant stand e speak how do we get a free NVDA voice
>
> On 9/22/17, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
>> I can't stand ESpeak either Travis, but I know the page you are talking
>> about. Yes poorly designed.
>>
>>
>> On 9/19/2017 3:49 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
>>> I have to say, the web page where the nvda plugin is up for download
>>> is terrible.  According to the site (and I quote).
>>>
>>> Once the Add-on is installed along with NVDA, you can select either
>>> Code Factory Eloquence or Code Factory Vocalizer in the NVDA
>>> Synthesizer dialog and then select the preferred language in the NVDA
>>> Voice dialog.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, only this doesn't work for vocalizer voices.  It works just fine
>>> for eloquence voice (which btw, I can't stand), but apparently, for
>>> vocalizer voices, you need to go to another page (not linked to
>>> anywhere on the NVDA plugins page), and download the voices you want
>>> to use.  This is pretty poor page design, especially since there is no
>>> mention anywhere on the page that voices need to be downloaded.
>>>
>>> But, just for reference, downloading the voices I wanted didn't change
>>> my circle of errors, I'm still getting the thanks for using, and
>>> telling me that pressing ok will start the install process, (which btw
>>> doesn't).  Installing the samantha voice separately also doesn't solve
>>> my problem, I can select vocolizer in the code factory menu, but when
>>> going to synthesizer and selecting vocalizer is how I get into that
>>> nice endless error circle, so there is definitely still work that
>>> needs done on these voices.  I'd be demanding my money back with no
>>> doubt if I'd had this experience after paying for these things.  The
>>> seven day trial is nice, but it isn't of any use to me, because
>>> nothing here is working, so I'm just going to write it all off as a
>>> bad idea and go back to being content with my espeak ivan 3 voice.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>




Re: vocalizer voices (got it partly figured out)

Gene
 

Just don't answer questions that have been repeatedly asked. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer voices (got it partly figured out)

We listers said this about 10000000000000000000000000000000 times
already and I'm tired of repeating myself also. Use! the! supplyed!
SSAPI 5! voices! or the one core! Sheesh!


On 9/22/2017 10:47 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo wrote:
> if we cant stand e speak how do we get a free NVDA voice
>
> On 9/22/17, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
>> I can't stand ESpeak either Travis, but I know the page you are talking
>> about. Yes poorly designed.
>>
>>
>> On 9/19/2017 3:49 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
>>> I have to say, the web page where the nvda plugin is up for download
>>> is terrible.  According to the site (and I quote).
>>>
>>> Once the Add-on is installed along with NVDA, you can select either
>>> Code Factory Eloquence or Code Factory Vocalizer in the NVDA
>>> Synthesizer dialog and then select the preferred language in the NVDA
>>> Voice dialog.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, only this doesn't work for vocalizer voices.  It works just fine
>>> for eloquence voice (which btw, I can't stand), but apparently, for
>>> vocalizer voices, you need to go to another page (not linked to
>>> anywhere on the NVDA plugins page), and download the voices you want
>>> to use.  This is pretty poor page design, especially since there is no
>>> mention anywhere on the page that voices need to be downloaded.
>>>
>>> But, just for reference, downloading the voices I wanted didn't change
>>> my circle of errors, I'm still getting the thanks for using, and
>>> telling me that pressing ok will start the install process, (which btw
>>> doesn't).  Installing the samantha voice separately also doesn't solve
>>> my problem, I can select vocolizer in the code factory menu, but when
>>> going to synthesizer and selecting vocalizer is how I get into that
>>> nice endless error circle, so there is definitely still work that
>>> needs done on these voices.  I'd be demanding my money back with no
>>> doubt if I'd had this experience after paying for these things.  The
>>> seven day trial is nice, but it isn't of any use to me, because
>>> nothing here is working, so I'm just going to write it all off as a
>>> bad idea and go back to being content with my espeak ivan 3 voice.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>




Re: usenet?

Carlos
 

Hello All:

    Wow! Are we all remembering the good old days when FIDONet was ruling the BBS world!

On 9/23/2017 6:37 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
Usenet has groups (just like some web sites) where illegal stuff shows up, but it's more useful for it's thousands of groups covering every topic imaginable, where you can get information and talk about just about anything.  I used to use it a lot in the early 90s when I was in college for talking about favorite artists, and to enjoy cyberpunk stories generally written by the participants of the group, it was pretty cool.  Fan fiction sites fill that gap these days, but it was cool to have the message scome to you, which is what I liked the most about usenet.

They have programming groups too, you can learn just about any language, ask questions, get help with source code, and more.  Of course, overflow.com and other sites cover that these days too, but it was a nice place to talk about topics that must folks didn't cara about (such as mudding alt.muds), and plenty more.  I used to use it all the time.  Never used it for finding pay content, but a lot of folks did, and probably still do.  I like it more for the access to information and stories myself.


On 9/23/2017 5:36 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
Usenet was one of the primary ways that people use to share underground content such as mp3 music, movies, and audiobooks. That is what I used it for anyway. Nowadays, it's cheaper and easier to buy what you want, and the quality and selection are better.


On September 23, 2017 5:19:03 PM "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:

What does buying things have to do with usenet?

Antony

On Saturday 23 September 2017 at 23:14:02, erik burggraaf wrote:

I used easynews myself when I cared about such things. Nowadays I just buy
what I want. Even though I don't have a lot of money, it's easier, and the
quality is better.


--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com


Re: usenet?

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Usenet has groups (just like some web sites) where illegal stuff shows up, but it's more useful for it's thousands of groups covering every topic imaginable, where you can get information and talk about just about anything.  I used to use it a lot in the early 90s when I was in college for talking about favorite artists, and to enjoy cyberpunk stories generally written by the participants of the group, it was pretty cool.  Fan fiction sites fill that gap these days, but it was cool to have the message scome to you, which is what I liked the most about usenet.

They have programming groups too, you can learn just about any language, ask questions, get help with source code, and more.  Of course, overflow.com and other sites cover that these days too, but it was a nice place to talk about topics that must folks didn't cara about (such as mudding alt.muds), and plenty more.  I used to use it all the time.  Never used it for finding pay content, but a lot of folks did, and probably still do.  I like it more for the access to information and stories myself.

On 9/23/2017 5:36 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
Usenet was one of the primary ways that people use to share underground content such as mp3 music, movies, and audiobooks. That is what I used it for anyway. Nowadays, it's cheaper and easier to buy what you want, and the quality and selection are better.


On September 23, 2017 5:19:03 PM "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:

What does buying things have to do with usenet?

Antony

On Saturday 23 September 2017 at 23:14:02, erik burggraaf wrote:

I used easynews myself when I cared about such things. Nowadays I just buy
what I want. Even though I don't have a lot of money, it's easier, and the
quality is better.


Re: using facebook

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Usenet is the www before the www existed.  Well, it was more of a cross between groups.io and the www.  You could literally find anything on usenet, but it's more or less a large (and I mena large) collection of discussion groups to which anyone can participate in and contribute to.  Unfortunately, these days, most isps don't provide usenet access, so you're kind of out of luck when it comes to accessing these groups.  As far as I know, there are still a few providers that will privide access for a fee, which is truly a shame, because it used to be provided with each and every internet access account, and it was a great resource, of course, it was also a huge spam trap, and still is, but it's still loaded with useful information.

On 9/23/2017 8:09 PM, Pauline Smith wrote:
Good Evening,

What is UseNet?  I hope I typed that right.  What kinds of stuff is found on this site?

Pauline


On 9/23/2017 4:03 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I think any social media platform for us has issues as we are coming in late and do not know how to restrict the crud and all the clever stuff so we only see what we want to see and also of course only allow others to see what we want them to see as well. So many blind friends have had their fingers burned on these sites by bullying or indeed by off the cuff comments that have been seen by important folk like employers or family and friends.
There are dangers out there.
I was never brought up with this concept, but a lot of the younger nvda users here have always known this stuff. I use Usenet, and always have done. We all know that is open and public but when it comes to Facebook, and to a lesser extent, Twitter, its unfortunately alot easier for folk to find you.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] using facebook


Well I made a decision that I wouldn't tweat much, I mean my life revovles around a pc but still I refuse to spend it reading tweats even though I do read a few.




On 23/09/2017 7:37 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I think social media is a time management issue. I find better things to do with my time than to wrestle with facebook. That is all. I'm not going to say I'll never use it, but for what use I could make of it a huge learning curve appears to be needed by any user without sight.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@softcon.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] using facebook


It's extremely easy to navigate, but the facebook mobile page doesn't have everything the main facebook page has, or sometimes it does, but it's burried somewhere, and good luck finding it. It's nearly impossible to do everything I want to do when using the mobile version of the page, so I gave it up for useless years ago. Admittedly, the regular page is a hassle, and sometimes it's slow as all get out, but it works, and in the long run that's all that matters.

Of course, I use face book as little as possible, so your mileage may vary.


On 9/22/2017 3:47 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Brian their is nothing wrong with teh Facebook Mobile site. It has HTML headings etc. Its easy to navigate.


On 9/19/2017 7:26 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes I gave up even trying to understand it, Even on the mobile site.
Is there a blind friendly client for any of the so called social media sites that are easy to use?
I don't want them to rule my life, but of late so much information I'm expected to know about is on Twitter or Facebook its beginning to look like I'll have to bite the bullet again. Maybe I can employ a young person to do it for me!
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 11:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] using facebook


hi,

How do you guys use facebook with nvda? In particular, searching group posts and viewing the results, but most actions seem laggy. Also, nvda randomly jumps around on the page.




















Re: Weather Plus 4.5 21.09.2017 update available

mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo <ochikodinaka@...>
 

I need the weather pluss please

On 9/22/17, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io
<adrianobarb=yahoo.it@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Angelo,

Doesn't look like an error caused by Weather Plus.
Maybe there is something wrong in your nvda.
I need a log complete.
Thanks.

Cheers
Adriano

----- Original Message -----
From: Ângelo Abrantes
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather Plus 4.5 21.09.2017 update available


Impossible to install:

Speaking [u'weather_plus4.5.nvda-addon 557 de 572']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (22:51:35.813):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (22:51:35.953):
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\library.zip\gui\addonGui.py:20:
DeprecationWarning: object() takes no parameters
ERROR - unhandled exception (22:51:35.973):
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 16766, in <lambda>
File "gui\addonGui.pyc", line 312, in handleRemoteAddonInstall
File "gui\addonGui.pyc", line 92, in __init__
File "gui\addonGui.pyc", line 219, in refreshAddonsList
File "configobj.pyc", line 583, in __getitem__
KeyError: 'version'





Às 21:28 de 21-09-2017, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io escreveu:

Hi to every one,

Changes in this version:
* Correct location and documentation in Serbian.
* Correct the German localization.
#Changes in the Weather Plus Settings window:
* Added new checkbox;
You can enable the comma as the decimal separator, otherwise the
separator
will be the point.
And so are all happy. :)
Weather Plus can update alone, however, it is possible to download
manually from the following links:
http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus4.5.nvda-addon
or from page:
http://www.nvda.it/weather-plus/
or from page:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/weatherPlus.en.html

Cheers
Adriano




Sem vírus. www.avast.com



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Re: NVDA voices

mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo <ochikodinaka@...>
 

jeen is from the jeen voices e speakin
voices. any on

On 9/23/17, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you talking about the DECTalk add-on. That's not an authorized add-on.


On 9/19/2017 10:12 PM, Don H wrote:
I have always thought that the E speak voice is terrible.  I only
switched to NVDA after I found out that there was the Access32 syn
that sounded just like the syn I had used for twenty years with Window
Eyes.  On my system I have removed Window Eyes and do have Jaws
installed only because it was a free switch from Window Eyes.  I find
NVDA with the Access32 syn meets all my needs and don't use Jaws as I
don't think it is as good as NVDA.  That is my Opinion and I am a
expert on my Opinion.  So if you don't like E Speak and don't want to
pay for more voices give Access32 for NVDA a try.







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Re: vocalizer voices (got it partly figured out)

mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo <ochikodinaka@...>
 

any other NVDA voices for free

On 9/23/17, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:
We listers said this about 10000000000000000000000000000000 times
already and I'm tired of repeating myself also. Use! the! supplyed!
SSAPI 5! voices! or the one core! Sheesh!


On 9/22/2017 10:47 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo wrote:
if we cant stand e speak how do we get a free NVDA voice

On 9/22/17, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:
I can't stand ESpeak either Travis, but I know the page you are talking
about. Yes poorly designed.


On 9/19/2017 3:49 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
I have to say, the web page where the nvda plugin is up for download
is terrible.  According to the site (and I quote).

Once the Add-on is installed along with NVDA, you can select either
Code Factory Eloquence or Code Factory Vocalizer in the NVDA
Synthesizer dialog and then select the preferred language in the NVDA
Voice dialog.


Yeah, only this doesn't work for vocalizer voices.  It works just fine
for eloquence voice (which btw, I can't stand), but apparently, for
vocalizer voices, you need to go to another page (not linked to
anywhere on the NVDA plugins page), and download the voices you want
to use.  This is pretty poor page design, especially since there is no
mention anywhere on the page that voices need to be downloaded.

But, just for reference, downloading the voices I wanted didn't change
my circle of errors, I'm still getting the thanks for using, and
telling me that pressing ok will start the install process, (which btw
doesn't).  Installing the samantha voice separately also doesn't solve
my problem, I can select vocolizer in the code factory menu, but when
going to synthesizer and selecting vocalizer is how I get into that
nice endless error circle, so there is definitely still work that
needs done on these voices.  I'd be demanding my money back with no
doubt if I'd had this experience after paying for these things.  The
seven day trial is nice, but it isn't of any use to me, because
nothing here is working, so I'm just going to write it all off as a
bad idea and go back to being content with my espeak ivan 3 voice.










--
for if you persavear. you will conker never fear. try try try again


Re: usenet?

Ron Canazzi
 

Adelphia/Time Warner/Spectrum blocked Usenet binary materials a decade
or so ago.  I used to use X-News for Usenet Binaries until then.  It had
a very accessible Windows Explorer type interface. It might be worth
people doing a search for that program if they have providers that still
offer Usenet binaries.



On 9/23/2017 5:36 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
Usenet was one of the primary ways that people use to share
underground content such as mp3 music, movies, and audiobooks. That is
what I used it for anyway. Nowadays, it's cheaper and easier to buy
what you want, and the quality and selection are better.


On September 23, 2017 5:19:03 PM "Antony Stone"
<antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:

What does buying things have to do with usenet?

Antony

On Saturday 23 September 2017 at 23:14:02, erik burggraaf wrote:

I used easynews myself when I cared about such things. Nowadays I
just buy
what I want. Even though I don't have a lot of money, it's easier,
and the
quality is better.
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: tw-blue

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

I'm going to have a look at the URL and see who the bloaks who decided to be cute to bring back the Qube.


On 9/22/2017 11:36 PM, Kwork wrote:
That is no longer true about The Qube. An updated version, 0.88, just came out on Sept 21, and it works great.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: Rémy Ruiz
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tw-blue

Hi Andy,

Qwitter or the Qube are not supported any more!

in a few well-chosen TW Blue!
Cheers since France.
Rémy
Le 22/09/2017 à 21:51, Andy a écrit :
If you ever used Qwitter or the Qube, it's almost identicle to those.
 
Andy
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tw-blue

Hello Anthony, I also recomend you to read TWBlu's user guide. At present, TWBlu's interface is translated into 20 languages and its documentation is translated into 9 of them.
Cheers,
Florian



Re: vocalizer voices (got it partly figured out)

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

We listers said this about 10000000000000000000000000000000 times already and I'm tired of repeating myself also. Use! the! supplyed! SSAPI 5! voices! or the one core! Sheesh!

On 9/22/2017 10:47 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo wrote:
if we cant stand e speak how do we get a free NVDA voice

On 9/22/17, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:
I can't stand ESpeak either Travis, but I know the page you are talking
about. Yes poorly designed.


On 9/19/2017 3:49 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
I have to say, the web page where the nvda plugin is up for download
is terrible.  According to the site (and I quote).

Once the Add-on is installed along with NVDA, you can select either
Code Factory Eloquence or Code Factory Vocalizer in the NVDA
Synthesizer dialog and then select the preferred language in the NVDA
Voice dialog.


Yeah, only this doesn't work for vocalizer voices.  It works just fine
for eloquence voice (which btw, I can't stand), but apparently, for
vocalizer voices, you need to go to another page (not linked to
anywhere on the NVDA plugins page), and download the voices you want
to use.  This is pretty poor page design, especially since there is no
mention anywhere on the page that voices need to be downloaded.

But, just for reference, downloading the voices I wanted didn't change
my circle of errors, I'm still getting the thanks for using, and
telling me that pressing ok will start the install process, (which btw
doesn't).  Installing the samantha voice separately also doesn't solve
my problem, I can select vocolizer in the code factory menu, but when
going to synthesizer and selecting vocalizer is how I get into that
nice endless error circle, so there is definitely still work that
needs done on these voices.  I'd be demanding my money back with no
doubt if I'd had this experience after paying for these things.  The
seven day trial is nice, but it isn't of any use to me, because
nothing here is working, so I'm just going to write it all off as a
bad idea and go back to being content with my espeak ivan 3 voice.








Re: tw-blue

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Actually believe it or not the Qube is still supported. Don't know the URL and don't care cause I myself use TW Blue and have since it came out 4 years ago now. I've seen people on Twitter this week use the Qube.


On 9/22/2017 4:21 PM, Rémy Ruiz wrote:

Hi Andy,

Qwitter or the Qube are not supported any more!

in a few well-chosen TW Blue!
Cheers since France.
Rémy
Le 22/09/2017 à 21:51, Andy a écrit :
If you ever used Qwitter or the Qube, it's almost identicle to those.
 
Andy
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tw-blue

Hello Anthony, I also recomend you to read TWBlu's user guide. At present, TWBlu's interface is translated into 20 languages and its documentation is translated into 9 of them.
Cheers,
Florian



Re: using facebook

Pauline Smith <paulinesmithh@...>
 

Good Evening,

What is UseNet?  I hope I typed that right.  What kinds of stuff is found on this site?

Pauline

On 9/23/2017 4:03 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I think any social media platform for us has issues as we are coming in late and do not know how to restrict the crud and all the clever stuff so we only see what we want to see and also of course only allow others to see what we want them to see as well. So many blind friends have had their fingers burned on these sites by bullying or indeed by off the cuff comments that have been seen by important folk like employers or family and friends.
There are dangers out there.
I was never brought up with this concept, but a lot of the younger nvda users here have always known this stuff. I use Usenet, and always have done. We all know that is open and public but when it comes to Facebook, and to a lesser extent, Twitter, its unfortunately alot easier for folk to find you.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] using facebook


Well I made a decision that I wouldn't tweat much, I mean my life revovles around a pc but still I refuse to spend it reading tweats even though I do read a few.




On 23/09/2017 7:37 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I think social media is a time management issue. I find better things to do with my time than to wrestle with facebook. That is all. I'm not going to say I'll never use it, but for what use I could make of it a huge learning curve appears to be needed by any user without sight.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@softcon.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] using facebook


It's extremely easy to navigate, but the facebook mobile page doesn't have everything the main facebook page has, or sometimes it does, but it's burried somewhere, and good luck finding it. It's nearly impossible to do everything I want to do when using the mobile version of the page, so I gave it up for useless years ago. Admittedly, the regular page is a hassle, and sometimes it's slow as all get out, but it works, and in the long run that's all that matters.

Of course, I use face book as little as possible, so your mileage may vary.


On 9/22/2017 3:47 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Brian their is nothing wrong with teh Facebook Mobile site. It has HTML headings etc. Its easy to navigate.


On 9/19/2017 7:26 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes I gave up even trying to understand it, Even on the mobile site.
Is there a blind friendly client for any of the so called social media sites that are easy to use?
I don't want them to rule my life, but of late so much information I'm expected to know about is on Twitter or Facebook its beginning to look like I'll have to bite the bullet again. Maybe I can employ a young person to do it for me!
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 11:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] using facebook


hi,

How do you guys use facebook with nvda? In particular, searching group posts and viewing the results, but most actions seem laggy. Also, nvda randomly jumps around on the page.

















Re: usenet?

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

Usenet was one of the primary ways that people use to share underground content such as mp3 music, movies, and audiobooks. That is what I used it for anyway. Nowadays, it's cheaper and easier to buy what you want, and the quality and selection are better.

On September 23, 2017 5:19:03 PM "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:

What does buying things have to do with usenet?

Antony

On Saturday 23 September 2017 at 23:14:02, erik burggraaf wrote:

I used easynews myself when I cared about such things. Nowadays I just buy
what I want. Even though I don't have a lot of money, it's easier, and the
quality is better.
--
"640 kilobytes (of RAM) should be enough for anybody."

- Bill Gates

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Re: usenet?

Antony Stone
 

So where does "the quality is better" come into it?

Antony.

On Saturday 23 September 2017 at 23:25:05, Louis Maher wrote:

Hi Antony,

My internet provider AT&T used to provide the Usenet service for free.
They discontinued this many years ago. When AT&T stopped carrying the
usenet service, I found that I had to find a service for easy access to
sci.space.news and sci.space.science. Also reading usenet on the iPhone is
far mor easier than reading usenet articles on the PC.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Antony
Stone
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 4:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] usenet?

What does buying things have to do with usenet?

Antony

On Saturday 23 September 2017 at 23:14:02, erik burggraaf wrote:
I used easynews myself when I cared about such things. Nowadays I just
buy what I want. Even though I don't have a lot of money, it's easier,
and the quality is better.
--
"640 kilobytes (of RAM) should be enough for anybody."

- Bill Gates
--
"Life is just a lot better if you feel you're having 10 [small] wins a day
rather than a [big] win every 10 years or so."

- Chris Hadfield, former skiing (and ski racing) instructor

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Re: usenet?

Louis Maher <ljmaher@...>
 

Hi Antony,

My internet provider AT&T used to provide the Usenet service for free. They
discontinued this many years ago. When AT&T stopped carrying the usenet
service, I found that I had to find a service for easy access to
sci.space.news and sci.space.science. Also reading usenet on the iPhone is
far mor easier than reading usenet articles on the PC.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Antony
Stone
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 4:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] usenet?

What does buying things have to do with usenet?

Antony

On Saturday 23 September 2017 at 23:14:02, erik burggraaf wrote:

I used easynews myself when I cared about such things. Nowadays I just
buy what I want. Even though I don't have a lot of money, it's easier,
and the quality is better.
--
"640 kilobytes (of RAM) should be enough for anybody."

- Bill Gates

Please reply to the list;
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me.


Re: usenet?

Antony Stone
 

What does buying things have to do with usenet?

Antony

On Saturday 23 September 2017 at 23:14:02, erik burggraaf wrote:

I used easynews myself when I cared about such things. Nowadays I just buy
what I want. Even though I don't have a lot of money, it's easier, and the
quality is better.
--
"640 kilobytes (of RAM) should be enough for anybody."

- Bill Gates

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.