Date   

Re: Where are the recordings?

Antony Stone
 

Spaces are perfectly valid in web addresses.

The problem with them is that most email clients and similar applications
can't tell whether the space and the next word are still part of the address,
or if the address has finished and the next word is just a word, so therefore
spaces are often converted to %20 so that the entire address string is
continuous.

Typing an address, complete with spaces, into a web browser, however, is
perfectly valid.

The fundamental problem being discussed in this thread is in fact that someone
fairly early on posted a URL which doesn't work.

http://123.206.102.220/NVDA%20plugin%20community%20activities.7z

is the correct URL and works, although very very slowly.


Antony.

On Saturday 30 September 2017 at 10:55:57, Brian's Mail list account via
Groups.Io wrote:

You cannot have spaces in web addresses though, can you? I was thinking
this too but decided it has to be something like underscore or something
else. brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rui Fontes" <rui.fontes@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Where are the recordings?

Replace %20 by space.

Rui



De: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@...>
Para: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Where are the recordings?
Data: 29 de setembro de 2017 15:49

I just tried this and the link appears to be totally dead!! By this, I
mean it doesn't even try to open a browser at all let alone give me a
page not found error or anything--it just says visited after I choose it
but then just sits there. What's wrong?

Roger

On 9/28/2017 7:03 PM, @dingpengyu wrote:
All of you are good, this is the last week of the activities of the
recording, the following is the download address: because there is no
reason to deal with, so the volume will be relatively large, so a lot of
inclusive. Http://123.206.102.220/NVDA%20plugin%20community%
<http://123.206.102.220/NVDA%20plugin%20community%> 20activities.7z

--
The next sentence is true.
The previous sentence is untrue.

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.


Re: Where are the recordings?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes cos space is not a valid seperator in web addresses. Also the fact that its a number not a name is probably also a problem as in effect you are bypassing the nameserver look up for the site and many sites do not like you to enter by trying to get at pages without going in via a known route.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Where are the recordings?


I just tried copying the link into Firefox and then deleted both the %20 and replaced them with a space. Result: 404 Page not found.

Roger








On 9/29/2017 1:50 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Replace %20 by space.

Rui



De: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@...>
Para: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Where are the recordings?
Data: 29 de setembro de 2017 15:49

I just tried this and the link appears to be totally dead!! By this, I mean it doesn't even try to open a browser at all let alone give me a page not found error or anything--it just says visited after I choose it but then just sits there. What's wrong?

Roger









On 9/28/2017 7:03 PM, @dingpengyu wrote:
All of you are good, this is the last week of the activities of the recording, the following is the download address: because there is no reason to deal with, so the volume will be relatively large, so a lot of inclusive. Http://123.206.102.220/NVDA%20plugin%20community% <http://123.206.102.220/NVDA%20plugin%20community%> 20activities.7z





Re: Where are the recordings?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I get 404 error when I try.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Where are the recordings?


Thunderbird is blocking this. Now I'm getting a message that the link in the message is a scam and impersonating a site I want to visit so it has deactivated it. At least now I know what's stopping it but don't know how to get around it.

Roger










On 9/29/2017 1:50 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Replace %20 by space.

Rui



De: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@...>
Para: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Where are the recordings?
Data: 29 de setembro de 2017 15:49

I just tried this and the link appears to be totally dead!! By this, I mean it doesn't even try to open a browser at all let alone give me a page not found error or anything--it just says visited after I choose it but then just sits there. What's wrong?

Roger









On 9/28/2017 7:03 PM, @dingpengyu wrote:
All of you are good, this is the last week of the activities of the recording, the following is the download address: because there is no reason to deal with, so the volume will be relatively large, so a lot of inclusive. Http://123.206.102.220/NVDA%20plugin%20community% <http://123.206.102.220/NVDA%20plugin%20community%> 20activities.7z





Re: [WebAIM] New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I did it a few weeks back, I assume it is still the same one?
They do seem to be assuming everyone has a smart phone though. Brian

bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <@brandonkeithbiggs>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 8:19 PM
Subject: [nvda] [WebAIM] New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey


Hello,
Here is the link to one of the more important screen reader surveys. When
people refference screen reader usage and tendencies, they often use the
results of this survey.
Please fill this out, it really helps developers.
The questions are really easy and relevant.
Thank you,
Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jared Smith <jared@...>
Date: Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 7:53 AM
Subject: [WebAIM] New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey
To: WebAIM Discussion List <webaim-forum@...>
https://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey7/
Please share this URL to any and all screen reader users.
Thanks,
Jared Smith
WebAIM.org
_______________________________________________
To manage your subscription, visit http://list.webaim.org/
List archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
Address list messages to webaim-forum@...


Re: Where are the recordings?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

You cannot have spaces in web addresses though, can you? I was thinking this too but decided it has to be something like underscore or something else. brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rui Fontes" <rui.fontes@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Where are the recordings?


Replace %20 by space.

Rui



De: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@...>
Para: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Where are the recordings?
Data: 29 de setembro de 2017 15:49

I just tried this and the link appears to be totally dead!! By this, I mean it doesn't even try to open a browser at all let alone give me a page not found error or anything--it just says visited after I choose it but then just sits there. What's wrong?

Roger









On 9/28/2017 7:03 PM, @dingpengyu wrote:
All of you are good, this is the last week of the activities of the recording, the following is the download address: because there is no reason to deal with, so the volume will be relatively large, so a lot of inclusive. Http://123.206.102.220/NVDA%20plugin%20community% <http://123.206.102.220/NVDA%20plugin%20community%> 20activities.7z



Re: question

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

On the one I have there is a tray icon which when can set things like on or off or allow external mouse and sensitivity and how to emulate buttons either by tapping the pad or using physical buttons.
Of course the dumb method is a piece of card over the damned thing!
it may be that if this icon is not there, then there may be a control panel item instead.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "anthony borg" <anthonyborg001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 6:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] question


Hi list

I have a dell laptop model inspiration 15-3537.

I wonder if someone can tell me what hot keys should use to enable or
disable the touchpad from the keyboard.

Thanks in advance

Anthony


Re: Plugins

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Unfortunately Clipspeak has major problems at the moment for me. It slows things and causes word to complain about memory spuriously. so I may have to resort to the dumb add on to get things done. It most certainly has potential though but needs to have better ways to find out what it needs to know that are less time consuming and invasive to software.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Plugins


Hi,

I always recommend new people to learn Python first, as it teaches folks
what to do and how to solve basic problems.

In terms of scale of add-ons, Remote Support is arguably one of the most
impactful add-ons out there. The big picture is quite simple to understand,
but the code is a bit complicated because it hooks deeply into NVDA. There
is a possibility that this could be simplified in the future.

My own add-on collection shows varying skill, complexity and impact. Perhaps
the most powerful add-on I have is Windows 10 App Essentials due to its
impact - I'd say that this simple add-on has fundamentally changed how
people view NVDA's compatibility with Windows 10. But that add-on does not
compare to StationPlaylist Studio add-on, which is perhaps one of the most
complex add-ons in existence (besides DictationBridge).

One thing to keep in mind: do not think about creating the most complex
add-on, especially when you are just starting out on this journey. The most
powerful add-ons are ones that had huge impact on the community to a point
where it changed how people view and think about NVDA (and in some cases,
teach NVDA). Even small add-ons (such as ClipSpeak) is impactful.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Walker,
Michael E
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 9:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Plugins



Thank you for the information.



Where do most people start, when learning to write add-ons? What I noticed
from reading the documentation you hosted is that there are a lot of modules
and classes where some have English descriptions of what the methods do and
variables mean, but for others it seems you have to dive right into the code
to ascertain what something does. While I have more reading to do, I also
saw the code in the developer guide that shows how to write an app module
for Notepad. However, how do you learn to write large-scale add-ons, such as
what Tyler Spivy did with NVDA Remote? I am interested in hearing from
multiple add-on developers about how they began this exciting journey.



Thanks,

Mike



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 9:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Plugins



Hi,

I'm hosting that collection on a temporary basis until NV Access publishes
this on a more regular basis i.e. when stable releases are made. 2017.4
introduces several new things that'll impact almost all add-ons.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Walker, Michael E
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 7:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Plugins



Thank you. I kept thinking I would need to pull the NVDA source from Git and
go through the Python source files to get to the documentation, such as in
the form of Python docstrings and comments. I knew there had to be a better
way though. Someone should post that reference you just shared to the
development wiki. I did not see it anywhere. I am exploring if NVDA app
modules and global plugins are something I would enjoy writing.



Thanks,

Mike



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 9:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Plugins



Hi,

Usually it refers to source code and the documentation that gets generated
from it. I keep a copy of it on my website at:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvdadocs/dev/



Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Walker, Michael E
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 7:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Plugins



Hi, when I see verbiage in the NVDA developer guide
<https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html#toc10
such as, "Developers should consult the code documentation for a complete
reference," what exactly does that mean? In this context, I do not see a
link to code documentation, or a reference. I tried to subscribe to the
developer mailing list on SourceForge to post this question, but did not get
a confirmation email, even though I believe that would be the more
appropriate place for this question. Has the list moved?



Thanks,

Mike




problem nvda with hotspot shield

Mahmood HoZhabri <mahmood.hojabri@...>
 

Hello, I use hotspot shield for open block sites, and I use nvda screen reader, when I use navigation mode for sign in to my account, when NVDA reads username edit, nvda and hss crashed and I must open nvda again and open hotspot shield (hss) again. please solve this problem.

--
با سپاس, محمود هژبری


Re: question

Noah Davis
 

You might try pressing windows+X and going to the mobility center and
turning off the touchpad from there. That's what I did and I also have
a Dell laptop from the Inspiron line.
-Noah

On 9/29/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
I think Fn+F3, just looking at an image on the net.

On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 3:59 AM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...>
wrote:

Hi list

I have a dell laptop model inspiration 15-3537.

I wonder if someone can tell me what hot keys should use to enable or
disable the touchpad from the keyboard.

Thanks in advance

Anthony



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: question

Quentin Christensen
 

I think Fn+F3, just looking at an image on the net.

On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 3:59 AM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:

Hi list

I have a dell laptop model inspiration 15-3537.

I wonder if someone can tell me what hot keys should use to enable or disable the touchpad from the keyboard.

Thanks in advance

Anthony




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: miranda-ng

Quentin Christensen
 

When you say you are using a development version, do you mean of Miranda?  If so, it could be that they've changed something.  I must admit I haven't used it in awhile.

From here, I would:
- Check the latest stable build of Miranda to make sure its working in that (at least that will confirm that it definitely is something in Miranda rather than anywhere else).
- Notify the Miranda developers.
- If it's something that might need attention from NVDA's side, file an issue on our GitHub page: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues including as much detail as possible.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Stefan Moisei via Groups.Io <vor_tex123@...> wrote:
Hello,
Does NVDA still support reading messages in Miranda-ng with keystrokes? It doesn’t seem to work for me using the latest development version on windows 10 with NVDA 2017.3.
Are there any settings I should make or plugins I should install? The default contact list seems to work fine.
Thanks

Virus-free. www.avast.com




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: NVDA features

Quentin Christensen
 

HI,

Following on from what others have said, while NVDA itself only does speech and / or braille output, it does work with the Windows magnifier which is built into Windows 7.  Press WINDOWS+PLUS to start or increase magnification, WINDOWS+MINUS to decrease magnification, CONTROL+ALT+i to toggle invert colours and WINDOWS+ESCAPE to exit magnifier.

NVDA can be run in Aero or classic modes of Windows, although if you are using Windows Magnifier, you will need to be in Aero to get full screen. 

Another magnification option is Glass Brick: http://www.glassbrick.org/ it is built over the Windows magnifier but offers a lot more features and customisation.

For the mouse pointer, I developed some extra large ones a couple of years ago you might find useful: http://22point.com.au/cursors.html

One more thing as a low vision user you might find useful with NVDA, is the "Focus Highlight" addon.  It draws a box around whatever control or item has focus.  See: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/focusHighlight.en.html

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:10 AM, <ingez@...> wrote:

I am looking into using the software but have couple of questions :

 

          - Does it support full screen magnification ?

 

 

         - Can I change size of the mouse pointer ?

 

          - Do I have to use Aero theme (under Win 7) or can I continue using Basic ?  If I can use Basic theme will I lose all customizations (fonts, colors, etc) ?




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Introducing myself

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Sky,

A belated welcome to the group.  It's been a busy week, normally I'm in here more frequently.  Glad you are enjoying NVDA!

Quentin.

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:34 AM, Sky Mundell <skyt@...> wrote:

Hello list. My name is Sky, and I am new to the list. I am a 26-years old man from Victoria, British Columbia, Canada. I have used NVDA off and on since 2007, and I absolutely love this screen reader. I work as an adaptive technology specialist with an organisation in Victoria called Pacific training Centre for the blind. I am also a blind musician/recording engineer as well.  Anyways, I am looking forward to participating in the NVDA user community, and I want to say a big thanks to Mike and Jamie for helping make accessibility free for all.  You guys rock!

 

 

 

 

Thanks, Sky.




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: [WebAIM] New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey

matthew dyer
 

Just took it.  Tanks for the link.  BTW I put ink the comment fikeld that orca/linux should be included in th list of screenreader as it was not list, but if you use it just cause other.

Matthew


On Sep 29, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Mário Navarro <mario.gnv@...> wrote:

       



Hi.
 I've done my part. and all of you have a duty to do your part.
Yes it's really easy and 100% accessible
We have to take these few opportunities they give us to facilitate our lives ...
If we don't, then it's no use complaining for no reason ...
help to be helped ...
cheers.


Às 20:19 de 29/09/2017, Brandon Keith Biggs escreveu:
Hello,
Here is the link to one of the more important screen reader surveys. When people refference screen reader usage and tendencies, they often use the results of this survey.
Please fill this out, it really helps developers.
The questions are really easy and relevant.
Thank you,


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jared Smith <jared@...>
Date: Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 7:53 AM
Subject: [WebAIM] New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey
To: WebAIM Discussion List <webaim-forum@...>


https://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey7/

Please share this URL to any and all screen reader users.

Thanks,

Jared Smith
WebAIM.org
_______________________________________________
To manage your subscription, visit http://list.webaim.org/
List archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
Address list messages to webaim-forum@...




Re: [WebAIM] New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey

Mário Navarro
 

       



Hi.
 I've done my part. and all of you have a duty to do your part.
Yes it's really easy and 100% accessible
We have to take these few opportunities they give us to facilitate our lives ...
If we don't, then it's no use complaining for no reason ...
help to be helped ...
cheers.


Às 20:19 de 29/09/2017, Brandon Keith Biggs escreveu:

Hello,
Here is the link to one of the more important screen reader surveys. When people refference screen reader usage and tendencies, they often use the results of this survey.
Please fill this out, it really helps developers.
The questions are really easy and relevant.
Thank you,


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jared Smith <jared@...>
Date: Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 7:53 AM
Subject: [WebAIM] New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey
To: WebAIM Discussion List <webaim-forum@...>


https://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey7/

Please share this URL to any and all screen reader users.

Thanks,

Jared Smith
WebAIM.org
_______________________________________________
To manage your subscription, visit http://list.webaim.org/
List archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
Address list messages to webaim-forum@...



Re: Necessary training to write a screen reader?

Walker, Michael E
 

Hi,

 

Thank you for pointing out the subgroup. I am still learning how groups.io works. I see the Subgroups link on this group’s homepage, as well as the developer group.

 

Best regards,

Mike

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 3:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Necessary training to write a screen reader?

 

Hi,

At some point we should move this discussion to a more appropriate location, but…

A screen reader is just any other program: filled with variables, loops, conditionals, classes and objects, libraries, API calls and what not. But when it comes to screen readers, some knowledge of accessibility API’s helps, as well as willingness to listen to customers and be part of the community.

If you want, I recommend that you join the devlearning subgroup where I teach people how to write Python code, as well as give talks on NVDA internals for the next few months. Be warned though: the traffic you see in that subgroup isn’t for the faint of heart: in other words, one must show dedication and commitment, and in some cases, it becomes quite technical.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Walker, Michael E
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 1:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Necessary training to write a screen reader?

 

Hi,

 

When I read about how NVDA was born by a blind developer starting and writing it back in 2006, where do you think he would have even gotten the training to write a screen reader? I know that one would not get this from college alone. College may teach the fundamentals of Computer Science with an introduction to some specialized topics like security and cryptography, image processing, networking, and multimedia, but writing a screen reader has to be a highly complex undertaking. I am not looking to write one, but am intrigued by NVDA’s history.

 

Thanks,

Mike


Re: Where are the recordings?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Can you copy the address to  firefox and just dl it that way?

Good luck.

Also maybe use wget or curl to grab the file?

On Sep 29, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Roger Stewart <paganus2@...> wrote:

Thunderbird is blocking this.  Now I'm getting a message that the link in the message is a scam and impersonating a site I want to visit so it has deactivated it.  At least now I know what's stopping it but don't know how to get around it.

Roger










On 9/29/2017 1:50 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Replace %20 by space.

Rui



De: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@...>
Para: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Where are the recordings?
Data: 29 de setembro de 2017 15:49

I just tried this and the link appears to be totally dead!!  By this, I mean it doesn't even try to open a browser at all let alone give me a page not found error or anything--it just says visited after I choose it but then just sits there.  What's wrong?

Roger









On 9/28/2017 7:03 PM, dingpengyu06@... wrote:
All of you are good, this is the last week of the activities of the recording, the following is the download address: because there is no reason to deal with, so the volume will be relatively large, so a lot of inclusive. Http://123.206.102.220/NVDA%20plugin%20community% <http://123.206.102.220/NVDA%20plugin%20community%> 20activities.7z










Re: Necessary training to write a screen reader?

 

Hi,

At some point we should move this discussion to a more appropriate location, but…

A screen reader is just any other program: filled with variables, loops, conditionals, classes and objects, libraries, API calls and what not. But when it comes to screen readers, some knowledge of accessibility API’s helps, as well as willingness to listen to customers and be part of the community.

If you want, I recommend that you join the devlearning subgroup where I teach people how to write Python code, as well as give talks on NVDA internals for the next few months. Be warned though: the traffic you see in that subgroup isn’t for the faint of heart: in other words, one must show dedication and commitment, and in some cases, it becomes quite technical.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Walker, Michael E
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 1:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Necessary training to write a screen reader?

 

Hi,

 

When I read about how NVDA was born by a blind developer starting and writing it back in 2006, where do you think he would have even gotten the training to write a screen reader? I know that one would not get this from college alone. College may teach the fundamentals of Computer Science with an introduction to some specialized topics like security and cryptography, image processing, networking, and multimedia, but writing a screen reader has to be a highly complex undertaking. I am not looking to write one, but am intrigued by NVDA’s history.

 

Thanks,

Mike


Necessary training to write a screen reader?

Walker, Michael E
 

Hi,

 

When I read about how NVDA was born by a blind developer starting and writing it back in 2006, where do you think he would have even gotten the training to write a screen reader? I know that one would not get this from college alone. College may teach the fundamentals of Computer Science with an introduction to some specialized topics like security and cryptography, image processing, networking, and multimedia, but writing a screen reader has to be a highly complex undertaking. I am not looking to write one, but am intrigued by NVDA’s history.

 

Thanks,

Mike


Re: Where are the recordings?

Roger Stewart
 

I just tried copying the link into Firefox and then deleted both the %20 and replaced them with a space. Result: 404 Page not found.

Roger

On 9/29/2017 1:50 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Replace %20 by space.

Rui



De: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@...>
Para: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Where are the recordings?
Data: 29 de setembro de 2017 15:49

I just tried this and the link appears to be totally dead!! By this, I mean it doesn't even try to open a browser at all let alone give me a page not found error or anything--it just says visited after I choose it but then just sits there. What's wrong?

Roger









On 9/28/2017 7:03 PM, @dingpengyu wrote:
All of you are good, this is the last week of the activities of the recording, the following is the download address: because there is no reason to deal with, so the volume will be relatively large, so a lot of inclusive. Http://123.206.102.220/NVDA%20plugin%20community% <http://123.206.102.220/NVDA%20plugin%20community%> 20activities.7z