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Please, give me your LibreOffice issues

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

I'm having a look at our LibreOffice issues, and also LibreOffice's NVDA issues.  So, if anyone has any bugs or issues with LibreOffice and NVDA, now would be a great time to raise them so I can capture the current state of play.

I have been working through our issues tagged with LibreOffice: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/labels/libreoffice

and The Document Foundation's issues with NVDA: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=nvda

If you haven't already reported an issue in either of those places, even if you've previously raised it here, please let me know, just to make sure I don't miss it.

Regards

Quentin.

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Re: screen readers

Gene
 

In NVDA, you can't use numpad end as a part of the read status line command.  You can use either insert but you would use end on the main keyboard. 
 
Many commands are the same or similar between JAWS and NVDA when using the desktop layout.  I don't use the laptop layout and I can't comment on that. 
 
Rather than change or try to change many commands in NVDA, I think your time would be far better used learning the NVDA commands. 
 
Read to end, using the default desktop layout is NVDA key, which by default is either insert, down arrow.  Not down arrow on the numpad, down arrow on the main keyboard.  That's roughly equivalent to the command people use in JAWS for read to end.  People generally use nnumpad insert numpad down arrow for read to end.  In NVDA, you are using down arrow on the main keyboard.  You can't use down arrow on the numpad because NVDA uses that command for read current character.  I gave the read status line command before and you use end on the main keyboard for the same reason.  The numpad end key is used for screen review.
 
If you aren't well familiar with NVDA commands, you may change commands only to find later you have stopped important other commands you want to use.  I would strongly recommend against changing commands until you know NVDA well enough to understand what the consequences may be. 
 
If you want to know where to see NVDA commands listed in the NVDA documentation, list members can discuss that.  But in general, I believe it is better, and it may be significantly better depending on what you are using and how, to learn the actual screen-reader commands and only then making changes if still desired. 
 
I went through unnecessary work when I was learning NVDA to change the read to end command.  I didn't know that you can set the caps lock key to work as an NVDA key.  So I changed Read to end to a command I liked more only to find it was unnecessary as I learned more about NVDA.  Once I found out about using the caps lock as an NVDA key, I started using caps lock down arrow for read to end, which is as convenient as the command I wasted time setting before I knew about the caps lock.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] screen readers

I use insert  plus end to hear number of messages.  A lot of the key strokes are the same especially for all the basic windows stuff, reading documents, folders, lists, and web pages.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Karim Lakhani
Sent: October-09-17 4:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] screen readers

 

Hello all,

Can I get NVDA to use jaws commands?

when it comes to navigating data?

I know that window eyes  had a setting to configure the setting like you were using  the jaws program?

NVDA works real well but not having the experience like checking messages, like you do with jaws.

insert down always gave the amount of messages.

I'm not sure why I'm having a real hard time with NVDA not being my primary synthesizers.

thanks for the list and as a Canadian happy thanks giving!

 

Thanks.

 

 

$$$$

Karim.lakhani@...

$$$$

Goals determine what you're going to be.
- Julius Erving.

SKYPE: goldenace4


 

 
something people should be aware of

Shaun Everiss
 

Hi.

was reading skype blogs and found this.

https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/10/09/introducing-cortana-skype-microsofts-intelligent-assistant-comes-chat-window/

I really hope that there will be a way to make this shove right off if one wants to.

There is nothing worse than something bringing up suggestions and thinking what to say, if I want this now then I can put several bits of spyware and ransom ware on my system, and forget about skype.

While I see a benifit in this, I really hope we can envoke this at will, if not then maybe I will have to use windows xp for skype instead <sigh>
Re: failure when installing Microsoft Speech Platform Voices

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


You should be right to go now I am using a windows 10 machine and i know they worked on earlier versions of windows 2.


I do have another package here called speech hub  with different synth packages in it but you also need to install the add on so nvda can see them.


Just let me know if you want the package but you should be good to go now.


Under the synth section they are called microsoft speech platform.


Gene nz



On 10/10/2017 10:54 AM, Vicki wrote:
Got it! Thank you so very much. Hopefully this will work!
 
Vicki
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] failure when installing Microsoft Speech Platform Voices

Hi


Did you also install a tts voice you might of done the ones for voice recognition

Any how i have put the whole package in my drop box for you to download. It is only the runtime thingy and all the tts voices. I also sent some basic instructions of what to do.


Gene nz

?


On 10/10/2017 7:41 AM, Vicki wrote:
A few days ago I asked about installing Microsoft Speech Platform voices.
 
The synthesizer shows up in my list of options, but when I select it, I get an error message telling me  that it cannot be loaded.
 
Any suggestions?
 
Thanks.
 
Vicki
 

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

Re: How to set Acrobat Reader DC for PDF files

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

hi


So is mine fire bird is the default.


I have just added the section to a tutorial on the basic of that program but can not post any thing until where it is hosted is fixed. the stuff for browsing is alright but a copy from last month but can not upload because the ftp and a couple of other sections are off line.


Gene nz



On 10/10/2017 12:15 PM, Nevzat Adil wrote:
Thanks Gene. It worked. I forgot to say my default browser is Firefox.
Nevzat

On 10/9/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

hi


the first thing i would do is in the defaults apps change the browser from
edge to another one. that should stop it from opening in edge.


use the windows key + letter I then go to apps press enter key then down to
default apps. Locate the browser and change it from edge to another if on
there.


the next thing i would do is locate the pdf document then use the
applications key. Arrow down to open with adobe dc reader then press the
enter key It may give you the option to keep it as default.


It not there it should give you the option to choose another app then press
the enter key. Under the list there pick adobe dc reader then the next time
you tab it will give you the option a check box to use that program every
time make sure it is checked then tab down to ok and press the enter key.


Now you should be right.


hope it helps.


Gene nz


On 10/10/2017 10:47 AM, Nevzat Adil wrote:

Hello everyone,

I have no idea how it happened, but for sometime now Microsoft Edge
reads my PDF files instead of Acrobat Reader DC, something I do not
caer for.
I'd like to set Acrobat Reader DC as my default reader for PDF files.
Will someone instruct me how to do this?
My screen reader is NVDA and  OS Windows 10.
Thanks.
Nevzat





--
[Image NVDA          certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

Re: screen readers

Monte Single
 

I use insert  plus end to hear number of messages.  A lot of the key strokes are the same especially for all the basic windows stuff, reading documents, folders, lists, and web pages.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Karim Lakhani
Sent: October-09-17 4:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] screen readers

 

Hello all,

Can I get NVDA to use jaws commands?

when it comes to navigating data?

I know that window eyes  had a setting to configure the setting like you were using  the jaws program?

NVDA works real well but not having the experience like checking messages, like you do with jaws.

insert down always gave the amount of messages.

I'm not sure why I'm having a real hard time with NVDA not being my primary synthesizers.

thanks for the list and as a Canadian happy thanks giving!

 

Thanks.

 

 

$$$$

Karim.lakhani@...

$$$$

Goals determine what you're going to be.
- Julius Erving.

SKYPE: goldenace4


 

 
Re: How to set Acrobat Reader DC for PDF files

Nevzat Adil
 

Thanks Gene. It worked. I forgot to say my default browser is Firefox.
Nevzat

On 10/9/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
hi


the first thing i would do is in the defaults apps change the browser from
edge to another one. that should stop it from opening in edge.


use the windows key + letter I then go to apps press enter key then down to
default apps. Locate the browser and change it from edge to another if on
there.


the next thing i would do is locate the pdf document then use the
applications key. Arrow down to open with adobe dc reader then press the
enter key It may give you the option to keep it as default.


It not there it should give you the option to choose another app then press
the enter key. Under the list there pick adobe dc reader then the next time
you tab it will give you the option a check box to use that program every
time make sure it is checked then tab down to ok and press the enter key.


Now you should be right.


hope it helps.


Gene nz


On 10/10/2017 10:47 AM, Nevzat Adil wrote:

Hello everyone,

I have no idea how it happened, but for sometime now Microsoft Edge
reads my PDF files instead of Acrobat Reader DC, something I do not
caer for.
I'd like to set Acrobat Reader DC as my default reader for PDF files.
Will someone instruct me how to do this?
My screen reader is NVDA and OS Windows 10.
Thanks.
Nevzat





--
[Image NVDA certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.
screen readers

Karim Lakhani <karim.lakhani@...>
 

Hello all,
Can I get NVDA to use jaws commands?
when it comes to navigating data?
I know that window eyes  had a setting to configure the setting like you were using  the jaws program?
NVDA works real well but not having the experience like checking messages, like you do with jaws.
insert down always gave the amount of messages.
I'm not sure why I'm having a real hard time with NVDA not being my primary synthesizers.
thanks for the list and as a Canadian happy thanks giving!
 
Thanks.
 
 
$$$$
$$$$
Goals determine what you're going to be.
- Julius Erving.
SKYPE: goldenace4

 
 
Re: Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard

Shaun Everiss
 

The thing that you need to know is that windows 3.1 in fact up to 98se did not use any services as such.

You could delete just about anything and almost everything and it would run fine.

They were just advanced dos shells.

From xp up this changed a lot.

You need a lot of services and startups and tasks a lot of things.

if you kill everything things will not work.

If you have backups its another thing but you must not kill things for no reason.

User accounts are quite hardy things but they can be dammaged by malware or if you delete any tasks or registry entries for them with hex values.

You can also corrupt them if you try to transfer things without doing it the propper way.

In win10, you should be able to make windows store the data most of it in another location leaving it able for you to clear the data folders of files if you so choose and leave the settings alone.

However even if you can do it, chances are you are messing it by just doing so.

I do family work a lot of computer stuff and one of my uncles had a virus which mangled his account.

In another case my uncle the same one decided to transfer his account without doing the proper procedure, that is, make an account log in, then restart, log in, and set permitions for the other folders, move the account to another account, login with that, clear the temp and the other account.

Then reinstall any user apps that use the account spacifically and then the thing works.

For those using office running things will just for most programs just transfer them over and make new settings.

He didn't do any of this and just because he could transfered the entire thing over.

And it worked, except that it didn't the new account was broken and the other account was more broken.

The system guy he brought the system from suggested he reformat.

He didn't have time so took the system to me.

In both cases I had to recreate the 2 user accounts, reinstall all the user apps mainly dropbox google drive and other cloud services that were effected then everything else just worked.

It took me 2-3 hours each time.

Now if you have a second drive in the box and configure things then its possible to simply do what he did but remember that you must make a new account and never transfer settings at all.

On 10/10/2017 10:20 a.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Agreed. I remember when I made such a mistake almost 20 years ago. Lesson learned.

Take care and be blessed all.

On Oct 9, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

I would simply reformat the system and next time don't kill everything




On 10/10/2017 8:27 a.m., Howard Traxler wrote:
I have an older computer running windows XP. Being totally stupid, I deleted the audio drivers and lots of other stuff that might have been necessary to run things. It seems that it boots ok but now I'd like to get it to talk or even to run its alva braille display. I think I have JAWS 9 on it--which, of course, won't talk or display. But now, I've created a portable copy of NVDA, thinking that maybe I can somehow make the machine talk enough to get its drivers back and make it talk normally again.

Any ideas about this situation? Thank you anybody.

Howard
Re: Another bit of info on Firefox 57.

Robert Mendoza
 

Thanks for the heads up. If I'm not mistaken, Brian this is the so-called Quantum Firefox browser they will soon to be launch this November. I have the experience to install the beta or the pre-released version 57 the other day but it turns out my PC under nvda 2017.3 of Windows 7 32 bit gets slower to response so I decided to get back to version 56 rather. The mentioned released is in accordance with theWindows 10  compliance. The only worry is that once they released the final version this November could somehow had a fix as well to the performance of the Windows 7 32 bit users as well. As a reminder, may or might not install it first because your machine will gets in trouble for the said update of Firefox, and not sure if nvda dev teams is pretty much ready to handle this update soon to our machine.

Robert Mendoza

On 10/10/2017 1:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1394207

Comment # 25 on Bug 1394207 from :Gijs (not here until monday)at 2017-10-09 01:49:53 PDT
(In reply to carl from comment #24)
(In reply to carl from comment #23)
This bug is only fixed in 57. It's expected that you're seeing this in 56, but
it's too late to fix this within 56 because it's already released, and this
issue is not severe enough to warrant a specific dot-release. If it's very
annoying given your usage pattern, you could consider switching to 57 beta.
Otherwise, this will be fixed when 57 reaches the release channel in a few
weeks' time.


Product/Component: Firefox :: General

Tracking Flags:
. status-firefox-esr52:unaffected
. status-firefox55:unaffected
. tracking-firefox56:-
. status-firefox56:wontfix
. status-firefox57:fixed

You are receiving this mail because:
. You reported the bug.

Quite right I did,
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Re: Another bit of info on Firefox 57.

Robert Mendoza
 

Thanks for the heads up. If I'm not mistaken, Brian this is the so-called Quantum Firefox browser they will soon to be launch this November. I have the experience to install the beta or the pre-released version 57 the other day but it turns out my PC under nvda 2017.3 of Windows 7 32 bit gets slower to response so I decided to get back to version 56 rather. The mentioned released is in accordance with theWindows 10  compliance. The only worry is that once they released the final version this November could somehow had a fix as well to the performance of the Windows 7 32 bit users as well. As a reminder, may or might not install it first because your machine will gets in trouble for the said update of Firefox, and not sure if nvda dev teams is pretty much ready to handle this update soon to our machine.

Robert Mendoza

On 10/10/2017 1:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1394207

Comment # 25 on Bug 1394207 from :Gijs (not here until monday)at 2017-10-09 01:49:53 PDT
(In reply to carl from comment #24)
(In reply to carl from comment #23)
This bug is only fixed in 57. It's expected that you're seeing this in 56, but
it's too late to fix this within 56 because it's already released, and this
issue is not severe enough to warrant a specific dot-release. If it's very
annoying given your usage pattern, you could consider switching to 57 beta.
Otherwise, this will be fixed when 57 reaches the release channel in a few
weeks' time.


Product/Component: Firefox :: General

Tracking Flags:
. status-firefox-esr52:unaffected
. status-firefox55:unaffected
. tracking-firefox56:-
. status-firefox56:wontfix
. status-firefox57:fixed

You are receiving this mail because:
. You reported the bug.

Quite right I did,
Brian

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Re: How to set Acrobat Reader DC for PDF files

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

hi


the first thing i would do is in the defaults apps change the browser from edge to another one. that should stop it from opening in edge.


use the windows key + letter I then go to apps press enter key then down to default apps. Locate the browser and change it from edge to another if on there.


the next thing i would do is locate the pdf document then use the applications key. Arrow down to open with adobe dc reader then press the enter key It may give you the option to keep it as default.


It not there it should give you the option to choose another app then press the enter key. Under the list there pick adobe dc reader then the next time you tab it will give you the option a check box to use that program every time make sure it is checked then tab down to ok and press the enter key.


Now you should be right.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 10/10/2017 10:47 AM, Nevzat Adil wrote:
Hello everyone,

I have no idea how it happened, but for sometime now Microsoft Edge
reads my PDF files instead of Acrobat Reader DC, something I do not
caer for.
I'd like to set Acrobat Reader DC as my default reader for PDF files.
Will someone instruct me how to do this?
My screen reader is NVDA and  OS Windows 10.
Thanks.
Nevzat

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

Re: failure when installing Microsoft Speech Platform Voices

Vicki <vwherry4@...>
 

Got it! Thank you so very much. Hopefully this will work!
 
Vicki
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] failure when installing Microsoft Speech Platform Voices

Hi


Did you also install a tts voice you might of done the ones for voice recognition

Any how i have put the whole package in my drop box for you to download. It is only the runtime thingy and all the tts voices. I also sent some basic instructions of what to do.


Gene nz

?


On 10/10/2017 7:41 AM, Vicki wrote:
A few days ago I asked about installing Microsoft Speech Platform voices.
 
The synthesizer shows up in my list of options, but when I select it, I get an error message telling me  that it cannot be loaded.
 
Any suggestions?
 
Thanks.
 
Vicki
 

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

How to set Acrobat Reader DC for PDF files

Nevzat Adil
 

Hello everyone,

I have no idea how it happened, but for sometime now Microsoft Edge
reads my PDF files instead of Acrobat Reader DC, something I do not
caer for.
I'd like to set Acrobat Reader DC as my default reader for PDF files.
Will someone instruct me how to do this?
My screen reader is NVDA and OS Windows 10.
Thanks.
Nevzat
Re: Old Braille Displays

Deborah Armstrong
 

I have used a PB40 and a Navigator for years with NVDA. Not quite as polished as JAWS support, but quite good, especially when you do object nav.


The trick is to choose brltty as your driver and configure brltty. Now that brltty is part of Windows 10 it's even easier. But basically you want to look at

    c:\program files (x86)

\brltty\etc\brltty.conf


which is its configuration file. It's a linuxthing. kind of like .ini files in old versions of Windows, these conf files.


The last two lines should read

braille-device serial:com1

braille-driver ts


of course you'd change your port if it's not com1.


Brltty has no parallel port support at all. My husband who is sighted actually wrote a parallel port driver for the PowerBraille, because he worked for TSI at the time. But they never released it and when Freedom bought the PowerBraille it became their property so unfortunately it's not possible for him to share the code. That has saddened him over the years, but breaking the law isn't something we do.


The items in a conf file that follow pound (number) signs are comments. The automatic configuration (pick "configure brltty" from the start menu is rather poorly written and does make mistakes. In particular it doesn't know if the file already has configurations for other devices.


You'll have to piece together how to do all this with the Nvda documentation on brltty and the brltty docs itself which are very Linux-centric. But I can help and it does let Nvda support anything that Brltty can support, which is most of those old displays. There are two-letter codes for each display in the brltty docs.

And one good thing is that any usb to serial adapter that works with Windows is good enough for brltty. It's not picky.
Re: Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Do you have a old usb sound card laying around? They use generic drivers of windows. I got mine off ebay for not much only a couple of kiwi dollars. Then after you boot the pc plus it it in and then your speakers or headset into it. You then should hear sounds but you might also have to tell nvda to use that one as well under the synth settings.


Gene nz



On 10/10/2017 10:20 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Agreed. I remember when I made such a mistake almost 20 years ago. Lesson learned.

Take care and be blessed all.

On Oct 9, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

I would simply reformat the system and next time don't kill everything




On 10/10/2017 8:27 a.m., Howard Traxler wrote:
I have an older computer running windows XP.  Being totally stupid, I deleted the audio drivers and lots of other stuff that might have been necessary to run things.  It seems that it boots ok but now I'd like to get it to talk or even to run its alva braille display.  I think I have JAWS 9 on it--which, of course, won't talk or display.  But now, I've created a portable copy of NVDA, thinking that maybe I can somehow make the machine talk enough to get its drivers back and make it talk normally again.

Any ideas about this situation?  Thank you anybody.

Howard







--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

Re: Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard

Gene
 

That's a lot of work without trying other options first.  We don't know what has been removed but if you have a USB sound card or headphones, connecting them may give you sound.  You can buy cheap sound cards for ten U.S. dollars or perhaps less so you can try the experiment for little expense if you don't currently have a sound card.  Or you might be able to borrow a sound card or USB headphones.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard

I would simply reformat the system and next time don't kill everything




On 10/10/2017 8:27 a.m., Howard Traxler wrote:
> I have an older computer running windows XP.  Being totally stupid, I
> deleted the audio drivers and lots of other stuff that might have been
> necessary to run things.  It seems that it boots ok but now I'd like
> to get it to talk or even to run its alva braille display.  I think I
> have JAWS 9 on it--which, of course, won't talk or display.  But now,
> I've created a portable copy of NVDA, thinking that maybe I can
> somehow make the machine talk enough to get its drivers back and make
> it talk normally again.
>
> Any ideas about this situation?  Thank you anybody.
>
> Howard
>
>
>
>
Re: Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard

Sarah k Alawami
 

Agreed. I remember when I made such a mistake almost 20 years ago. Lesson learned.

Take care and be blessed all.

On Oct 9, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

I would simply reformat the system and next time don't kill everything




On 10/10/2017 8:27 a.m., Howard Traxler wrote:
I have an older computer running windows XP.  Being totally stupid, I deleted the audio drivers and lots of other stuff that might have been necessary to run things.  It seems that it boots ok but now I'd like to get it to talk or even to run its alva braille display.  I think I have JAWS 9 on it--which, of course, won't talk or display.  But now, I've created a portable copy of NVDA, thinking that maybe I can somehow make the machine talk enough to get its drivers back and make it talk normally again.

Any ideas about this situation?  Thank you anybody.

Howard
Re: Windows 10 is Very, Very Broken

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Hi Noah Have you got a iso on a flash drive to boot from and reformat?
Kenny Peyatt jr.

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You might have to reformat. Are you backed up?

Take care.

On Oct 4, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Noah Carver via Groups.Io <ntclists=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hello List,

So, my Windows 10 is really pitching a fit! This all started when I had to forse shut down my win10 machine using the power butten, because of a total system hang. Then, I turned the machine back on. But NVDA did not come back to life. I tried turning on Narrator, and it wouldn't talk.
So I asked my dad to come and look at my screen. According to him, even when I pressed keys on the keyboard, the log in box wouldn't appear.
I've tried ctrl alt del, I’ve tried rebooting, nothing works. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have a radio show in two days, and I have no backup machine.

Cheers,

Noah Carver
Re: failure when installing Microsoft Speech Platform Voices

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Did you also install a tts voice you might of done the ones for voice recognition

Any how i have put the whole package in my drop box for you to download. It is only the runtime thingy and all the tts voices. I also sent some basic instructions of what to do.


Gene nz

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On 10/10/2017 7:41 AM, Vicki wrote:
A few days ago I asked about installing Microsoft Speech Platform voices.
 
The synthesizer shows up in my list of options, but when I select it, I get an error message telling me  that it cannot be loaded.
 
Any suggestions?
 
Thanks.
 
Vicki
 

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