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idea for libreOffice

Josh Kennedy
 

I had an idea. Not sure if this would make libreoffice more stable and functional or not but here it goes.

Rather than libreoffice and openoffice relying on the java access bridge, both libreoffice and openoffice should have a feature to detect when NVDA is loaded. If loaded, libreoffice could probably run much more stable and provide much better accessibility if it directly used the NVDA controller client to provide direct accessibility by having NVDA braille and speak exactly what needs spoken and or brailled. This may enable the reading of charts and graphs in calc, better access in writer, complete access to impress, and the math tools. Not sure if this will go anywhere. But it was just an idea. And if it works we would have two excellent 100% accessible up to date and free office suites that, just as a braille notetaker like the brailleNote speaks exactly what is needed when needed, no more no less, same with braille... So if libreoffice and or openoffice used NVDA controller client rather than java access bridge which may be the cause of its instability? Then perhaps NVDA would work great with these applications.


Josh


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Re: NVDA 2017.3 and Outlook 2003

Cristóbal
 

I generally point people to this clip when they don’t want to let go of the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIty7vFwVYM

Not that newer is always better per say, but sometimes… you simply have to move on. I’ve got in a drawer an old HTC Tytan that I paid $700 for back in 2006 along with Code Factory’s Mobile Speak Pocket that cost me an additional $600. Not that I enjoyed paying $1,300 just to be able to have access to what at that time was a solid smartphone option, but oh well, what are you going to do? I don’t think I’ve turned that thing on in six years. There is a valid argument to continue to use something so long as it is useful to you, but if its obsolescence is more and more obvious and getting in the way of what you need for it to do, then again, time to move on.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 6:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2017.3 and Outlook 2003

 

On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 11:24 pm, zahra wrote:

i agree with maintaining all old aincient technology forever!
its freedom of choice for every person and his-her right to select the
favorite programs, office, operating systems etc!

Good luck with that.

I hope you enjoy your icebox, that horse and buggy you have, and sending communications by telegraph.

The world changes and the wise change with it.
 
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using NVDA with live chat

Ashley Wayne
 

Hello everyone, hope all is well.  I was just wondering if anyone had success using NVDA with the live chat option for contact/support; in my case, I need to contact comcast and would rather use the chat option as I find that it is often faster than waiting on hold with the phone.  Anyway, I would normally just test it out for myself but I didn't want to be starting a chat with a representative and then realize I couldn't effectively communicate with them, so just thought I would ask here first to see if anyone had experience, good or bad.  Thanks so much.

Ashley


Re: New blind users group

 

Hi. You mentioned Usernet. I've been interested in trying it out. Can you give me directions on how to use it? Sorry if this is off-topic. Thanks.

On 10/11/2017 5:04 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Well, if more people used Usenet which has free servers all over the world still, then there are several on there underused still.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 2:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New blind users group


You're welcome to start another discussion group, but I would ask - do we
*really* need *another* one?


Antony.

On Wednesday 11 October 2017 at 03:10:11, Randy Barnett wrote:

Hi, I started a group that is for discussion anything blind related.
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Strange issue for xp users with last working versions

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I don't know if anyone else has this, but I left the last supported master update installed on some machines, but now even if running 2017.3 on those machines, NVDA plays the shut down sound twice on all four machines.

Not a problem of course but very odd. the odd part is that the same working snaps have no such effect on Windows 7 at all.
Just one of those great mysteries of life and now support is gone, probably will remain that way!

Brian

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Re: list boxes in NVDA

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I would heartily advise trying Firefox or Chrome as well. You can have them all on the system with no issues.
I gave up on chrome myself but just because I could not get my brain around the way to use it veery easily, not to condemn it for that of course.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] list boxes in NVDA




Hi!

Latest Internet Explorer


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Westerland" <iwesterl@bigpond.net.au>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] list boxes in NVDA


Hi Antony.
It's an online review page.





On 10/11/2017 8:12 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Is this an online web page, a PDF they send you, a Word document, or what?

Is there any way we can see the ratings system without being a customer?

It always helps if we can see the same things as you're having problems with
so we can think of possible answers.


Antony.

On Wednesday 11 October 2017 at 11:10:20, Ian Westerland wrote:

Hello. So far so good. NVDA is working out nicely. One area causing
some difficulty is around list boxes.

I use a home delivery service for some meals and they have a ratings
system to fill in after each order to help with Restaurant ratings.

NVDA doesn't seem to find the list boxes and doesn't speak the numbers
in the boxes for me to complete the review.

There are three list boxes plus an area for a short written review. I
can acess the written review section but not the other three boxes or
the numbers in them.
Is there something I am doing wrong?

Thank you.


Ian Westerland





Re: Please, give me your LibreOffice issues

Arnþór Helgason
 

I have been tusing LibreOffice for some time. The advantage is that it can save documents as docx-documents. But when you open the documents my computer usually freeses.

Therefore I try to avoid this format but use MSWord 2003-version in Libre Office.

Open Office is more flexible except the formats are not as many.

Best regards,


Arnthor Helgason


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thunderbrid notifications

Martin Thomas Swaton
 

Hi listers,


hopefully someone can help me. I use mozillas  thunderbird for mailing.

(Windows 8.1, 64bit)

when thunderbird wants to tell me something (notifications) nvda says "notification" (or similar, I use german so it may differ in wording)


I would defenitely like to know what the notification is about, but have no idea and could not find anything in the internet, how to read this "notification" that was anounced ...and keeps being anounced


It does not matter  which kind of notification it is - as it seems. I e.g. know that I got a notification because of a server not responding (imap server was not reachable)

but there seem to be other notifications waiting for me to read them :-)


thankful for any idea how to get more information from that notifications.


cheers

Martin


Re: Please, give me your LibreOffice issues

Walmir Schultz <wsautodidata@...>
 

Hi,

More issues:

1 - In Calc, in a cell that has a formula that shows a result and is configured to show a number with 2 decimal places, NVDA announces more than 12 digits after the decimal point. But, with the sequence CTRL+C / NVDA+C to copy the cell contents an show it on the clipboard, NVDA reads only two numbers after the decimal point, correctly.

This is very annoying.
This behavior started in LibreOffice 5.2.
2 - In Writer, I would like to change between focus and browse mode, something I once used in MS Office.


Em 09/10/2017 22:08, Quentin Christensen escreveu:

Hi everyone,

I'm having a look at our LibreOffice issues, and also LibreOffice's NVDA issues.  So, if anyone has any bugs or issues with LibreOffice and NVDA, now would be a great time to raise them so I can capture the current state of play.

I have been working through our issues tagged with LibreOffice: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/labels/libreoffice

and The Document Foundation's issues with NVDA: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=nvda

If you haven't already reported an issue in either of those places, even if you've previously raised it here, please let me know, just to make sure I don't miss it.

Regards

Quentin.

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Re: PDF Secured files

Gene
 

No, that isn't what is being said.  What is being said is that there are certain file types, and examples are given, that are notorious for being used as malware.  They are taking reasonable measures to protect people from their own lack of knowledge.  One way the very serious recent ransomeware attacks were spread was by people opening attachments. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] PDF Secured files

Or in other words adobe do not want any bad publicity or law suits so to be on the safe side we block such pdf’s and refer you to the original author to sort it out as adobe will not touch this pdf with a barge pole

 

 

 

 

 


Re: PDF Secured files

Chris
 

Or in other words adobe do not want any bad publicity or law suits so to be on the safe side we block such pdf’s and refer you to the original author to sort it out as adobe will not touch this pdf with a barge pole

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA 2017.3 and Outlook 2003

 

On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 11:24 pm, zahra wrote:
i agree with maintaining all old aincient technology forever!
its freedom of choice for every person and his-her right to select the
favorite programs, office, operating systems etc!
Good luck with that.

I hope you enjoy your icebox, that horse and buggy you have, and sending communications by telegraph.

The world changes and the wise change with it.
 
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     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

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Re: Please, give me your LibreOffice issues

Walmir Schultz <wsautodidata@...>
 

Hi,

A correction.

The "Unknown, soffice" issue is solved when I wait some seconds when opening Writer.

But with Calc it did not work, even waiting for 5 minutes and for files with only 18KB. In this case, only ALT+TAB gave me access to the file.




Em 11/10/2017 08:55, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io escreveu:

I was using version 5.2.7.0, but to answer the question about issues in LibreOffice, upgraded to 5.4.2.2.
Really, when I wait for some time, issue 1 is explained: LibreOffice is slow to open files.
Thank you.


Em 11/10/2017 03:11, zahra escreveu:
hi walmir.
about first and second issues, which version of libreoffice do you use exactly?
libreoffice is very slow in compare to microsoft office when i open files.
so, its slow to open files and nvda is slow sometimes to read.
we dont need use alt tab multiple times, but the best way is to close
other open programs and be patient to libreoffice open files and nvda
reads!
for second issue, in some versions we need to use f2 twice and in some
versions we dont need.

for this reason, i asked you the version number of libreoffice!

i installed version 5.3.4.1 x86 to use it forever and dont have such issues!

hope that help, God bless you all!

On 10/10/17, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io
<wsautodidata=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Hi, Quentin,

1 - First things first:

When I open Calc or Writer, NVDA announces "Unknown".

If I try NVDA+T, I hear "soffice".

To get access to the document, I must hit ALT+TAB twice.


2 )- After the previous behavior, Writer "orks", but Calc doesn't.
Moving acroos lines or columns using arrow keys or TAB only works for
the first cell. Aftr this, nothing is announced.
ALT+TAB dowsn't work in this case.
The way to get out of this "trap" is pressing F2 twice to enter and exit
edit mode.
Important note: this only occurs in files with multiplie spreadsheets.
3 - Moving between spreadsheets
I use CTR+PGUP and ctrl+pgdwn TO MOVE BETWEEN SPREADSHEETS, BUT nvda
APPEARS TO HAVE PTOBLEMS ANNOUNCING THE NAME OF EACH ONE. It has an
erratic behavior, annoucing some names and being muite in others.
I don't know if the first line being fixed in some spreadsheets have
something to do with this.
4 - More to come...
Thank you very much for give attention to LibreOffice!


Em 09/10/2017 22:08, Quentin Christensen escreveu:
Hi everyone,

I'm having a look at our LibreOffice issues, and also LibreOffice's
NVDA issues.  So, if anyone has any bugs or issues with LibreOffice
and NVDA, now would be a great time to raise them so I can capture the
current state of play.

I have been working through our issues tagged with LibreOffice:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/labels/libreoffice

and The Document Foundation's issues with NVDA:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=nvda

If you haven't already reported an issue in either of those places,
even if you've previously raised it here, please let me know, just to
make sure I don't miss it.

Regards

Quentin.

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Re: Please, give me your LibreOffice issues

Walmir Schultz <wsautodidata@...>
 

I was using version 5.2.7.0, but to answer the question about issues in LibreOffice, upgraded to 5.4.2.2.
Really, when I wait for some time, issue 1 is explained: LibreOffice is slow to open files.
Thank you.


Em 11/10/2017 03:11, zahra escreveu:

hi walmir.
about first and second issues, which version of libreoffice do you use exactly?
libreoffice is very slow in compare to microsoft office when i open files.
so, its slow to open files and nvda is slow sometimes to read.
we dont need use alt tab multiple times, but the best way is to close
other open programs and be patient to libreoffice open files and nvda
reads!
for second issue, in some versions we need to use f2 twice and in some
versions we dont need.

for this reason, i asked you the version number of libreoffice!

i installed version 5.3.4.1 x86 to use it forever and dont have such issues!

hope that help, God bless you all!

On 10/10/17, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io
<wsautodidata=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Hi, Quentin,

1 - First things first:

When I open Calc or Writer, NVDA announces "Unknown".

If I try NVDA+T, I hear "soffice".

To get access to the document, I must hit ALT+TAB twice.


2 )- After the previous behavior, Writer "orks", but Calc doesn't.
Moving acroos lines or columns using arrow keys or TAB only works for
the first cell. Aftr this, nothing is announced.
ALT+TAB dowsn't work in this case.
The way to get out of this "trap" is pressing F2 twice to enter and exit
edit mode.
Important note: this only occurs in files with multiplie spreadsheets.
3 - Moving between spreadsheets
I use CTR+PGUP and ctrl+pgdwn TO MOVE BETWEEN SPREADSHEETS, BUT nvda
APPEARS TO HAVE PTOBLEMS ANNOUNCING THE NAME OF EACH ONE. It has an
erratic behavior, annoucing some names and being muite in others.
I don't know if the first line being fixed in some spreadsheets have
something to do with this.
4 - More to come...
Thank you very much for give attention to LibreOffice!


Em 09/10/2017 22:08, Quentin Christensen escreveu:
Hi everyone,

I'm having a look at our LibreOffice issues, and also LibreOffice's
NVDA issues.  So, if anyone has any bugs or issues with LibreOffice
and NVDA, now would be a great time to raise them so I can capture the
current state of play.

I have been working through our issues tagged with LibreOffice:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/labels/libreoffice

and The Document Foundation's issues with NVDA:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=nvda

If you haven't already reported an issue in either of those places,
even if you've previously raised it here, please let me know, just to
make sure I don't miss it.

Regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
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Re: list boxes in NVDA

Ian Westerland
 

Hi Gene. Already tried copying and pasting the web address. It only comes up as a review page with the list boxes when a review is being submitted following an order but I will give it some further attention and investigation and write again when I can provide the additional information.

Thank you.


Ian

On 10/11/2017 10:13 PM, Gene wrote:
When asking about a web page, unless the page can't be viewed by the general public, please give the address of the page.  No one can answer the question without looking at the page.  There are too many possibilities.  For example, the list boxes may be inaccessible in general.  They may be inaccessible with certain browsers and screen-reader combinations and visible with others.  They may be visible with brows mode off when tabbing through the fields but not with browse mode on.  There is no way to know without people looking at the page.
I would imagine you know how to copy the address from the address bar and paste it into the message.  But since I don't know anything about what you know, I don't want to assume.  Ask if you have questions.  At times, I see people type addresses, even long ones, a way to do lots of extra work and have errors in the address.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Ian Westerland <mailto:iwesterl@bigpond.net.au>
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 11, 2017 4:15 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] list boxes in NVDA
Hi Antony.
It's an online review page.
On 10/11/2017 8:12 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
> Is this an online web page, a PDF they send you, a Word document, or
what?
>
> Is there any way we can see the ratings system without being a customer?
>
> It always helps if we can see the same things as you're having
problems with
> so we can think of possible answers.
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Wednesday 11 October 2017 at 11:10:20, Ian Westerland wrote:
>
>> Hello.  So far so good.  NVDA is working out nicely.  One area causing
>> some difficulty is around list boxes.
>>
>> I use a home delivery service for some meals and they have a ratings
>> system to fill in after each order to help with Restaurant ratings.
>>
>> NVDA doesn't seem to find the list boxes and doesn't speak the numbers
>> in the boxes for me to complete the review.
>>
>> There are three list boxes plus an area for a short written review.  I
>> can acess the written review section but not the other three boxes or
>> the numbers in them.
>> Is there something I am doing wrong?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>> Ian Westerland
>


Re: list boxes in NVDA

Gene
 

When asking about a web page, unless the page can't be viewed by the general public, please give the address of the page.  No one can answer the question without looking at the page.  There are too many possibilities.  For example, the list boxes may be inaccessible in general.  They may be inaccessible with certain browsers and screen-reader combinations and visible with others.  They may be visible with brows mode off when tabbing through the fields but not with browse mode on.  There is no way to know without people looking at the page. 
 
I would imagine you know how to copy the address from the address bar and paste it into the message.  But since I don't know anything about what you know, I don't want to assume.  Ask if you have questions.  At times, I see people type addresses, even long ones, a way to do lots of extra work and have errors in the address.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 4:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] list boxes in NVDA

Hi Antony.
It's an online review page.





On 10/11/2017 8:12 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
> Is this an online web page, a PDF they send you, a Word document, or what?
>
> Is there any way we can see the ratings system without being a customer?
>
> It always helps if we can see the same things as you're having problems with
> so we can think of possible answers.
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Wednesday 11 October 2017 at 11:10:20, Ian Westerland wrote:
>
>> Hello.  So far so good.  NVDA is working out nicely.  One area causing
>> some difficulty is around list boxes.
>>
>> I use a home delivery service for some meals and they have a ratings
>> system to fill in after each order to help with Restaurant ratings.
>>
>> NVDA doesn't seem to find the list boxes and doesn't speak the numbers
>> in the boxes for me to complete the review.
>>
>> There are three list boxes plus an area for a short written review.  I
>> can acess the written review section but not the other three boxes or
>> the numbers in them.
>> Is there something I am doing wrong?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>> Ian Westerland
>



Re: list boxes in NVDA

Ian Westerland
 

Hello Brian. I didn't think to try the single letters. Will give that a go.

Window-Eyes finds them but doesn't read the ratings numbers. However, because I know that the default setting is 5, I arrow up or down which ever is needed then check in the Window-Eyes MSA mode.

Ian

On 10/11/2017 9:17 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Do you know for sure what the listboxes are in a control form. you could try single letter nav and see if perhaps they appear as buttons that open as lists or combo boxes. I've noted this kind of ambiguity before on web sites.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Westerland" <iwesterl@bigpond.net.au>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:10 AM
Subject: [nvda] list boxes in NVDA

Hello.  So far so good.  NVDA is working out nicely.  One area causing some difficulty is around list boxes.

I use a home delivery service for some meals and they have a ratings system to fill in after each order to help with Restaurant ratings.

NVDA doesn't seem to find the list boxes and doesn't speak the numbers in the boxes for me to complete the review.

There are three list boxes plus an area for a short written review.  I can acess the written review section but not the other three boxes or the numbers in them.
Is there something I am doing wrong?

Thank you.


Ian Westerland






Re: list boxes in NVDA

Ian Westerland
 

Hi!

Latest Internet Explorer

On 10/11/2017 9:18 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
What browser version has to be the next question.
Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Westerland" <iwesterl@bigpond.net.au>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] list boxes in NVDA

Hi Antony.
It's an online review page.





On 10/11/2017 8:12 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Is this an online web page, a PDF they send you, a Word document, or what?

Is there any way we can see the ratings system without being a customer?

It always helps if we can see the same things as you're having problems with
so we can think of possible answers.


Antony.

On Wednesday 11 October 2017 at 11:10:20, Ian Westerland wrote:

Hello.  So far so good.  NVDA is working out nicely.  One area causing
some difficulty is around list boxes.

I use a home delivery service for some meals and they have a ratings
system to fill in after each order to help with Restaurant ratings.

NVDA doesn't seem to find the list boxes and doesn't speak the numbers
in the boxes for me to complete the review.

There are three list boxes plus an area for a short written review.  I
can acess the written review section but not the other three boxes or
the numbers in them.
Is there something I am doing wrong?

Thank you.


Ian Westerland


Re: PDF Secured files

Gene
 

From an Adobe (spelling)help page:
Opening secured PDFs
Acrobat DC and Acrobat Reader DC warn you any time you try to open a URL (website) or a file attachment that uses a disallowed file type. URLs and disallowed file types are potentially dangerous because they can transfer or run programs, macros, or viruses that can damage your computer. Examples of disallowed file types include .exe and .zip files.
Documents can be secured in several ways. To view the security settings of a document, choose File > Properties in Acrobat or Reader. From the Document Properties dialog box, click the Security tab. If you have trouble opening a PDF, or you’re restricted from using certain features, contact the author of the PDF.
 
I don't know if that applies to the current situation but it may.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] PDF Secured files

The document I am trying to read is a medical report for my blood test
in .pdf format sent to me on line and I do think it is ridiculous for
it to be secured even for the patient whose test it is.
My sighted son says, however, that it is readable when the document is
opened in Acrobat reader DC although it says "secured".  Also if I can
read it in Firefox then I don't really see the need for it to be
secured and inaccessible in Acrobat reader. Or is it a shortcoming of
NVDA?
Obviously it is not password protected or else my son would not be
able to read it and nor would I like I can in Firefox.
Thanks,
Akbar

On 10/11/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
> You can't.
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> If its secured or an image document then you can't even access it.
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> You will have to ask the people you got it from to give you a normal
> document.
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> On an interesting note, adobe does allow secured documents to be read,
> there are designs for the most image full documents to be totally
> accessible.
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> Sadly there are still some people that are just not following guidelines.
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> On 11/10/2017 1:33 a.m., Akbar S. Currim wrote:
>> Hi all,
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>> Could someone please help.  I have a pdf file and when I try to read
>> it in Acrobat reader DC I get a message that it is secured and I am
>> unable to read it.  How can I read this file?  Using NVDA17.3 Win 10.
>> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>>
>> Akbar
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Re: list boxes in NVDA

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Westerland" <iwesterl@bigpond.net.au>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] list boxes in NVDA


Hi Antony.
It's an online review page.





On 10/11/2017 8:12 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Is this an online web page, a PDF they send you, a Word document, or what?

Is there any way we can see the ratings system without being a customer?

It always helps if we can see the same things as you're having problems with
so we can think of possible answers.


Antony.

On Wednesday 11 October 2017 at 11:10:20, Ian Westerland wrote:

Hello. So far so good. NVDA is working out nicely. One area causing
some difficulty is around list boxes.

I use a home delivery service for some meals and they have a ratings
system to fill in after each order to help with Restaurant ratings.

NVDA doesn't seem to find the list boxes and doesn't speak the numbers
in the boxes for me to complete the review.

There are three list boxes plus an area for a short written review. I
can acess the written review section but not the other three boxes or
the numbers in them.
Is there something I am doing wrong?

Thank you.


Ian Westerland