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Re: windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

David Moore
 

Hi all!

I got the Fall Creators 1709 of win10 yesterday in my updates.

It downloaded and installed without a hitch. It took 90 minutes to download, but it took two hours to install. It got stuck at 70 percent for an hour, but I just waited patiently, and it finished.

Wow, I am using NVDA version

Version: master-14532,58e1946e

And it is so snappy in Edge, that I can’t believe it. NVDA is working better in this 1709, than it ever has. I just want everyone to know that NVDA is so snappy as well in file explorer. It is much snappier when I arrow through ffiles and folders in different areas of file explorer. The Mail app is working great with NVDA.

Narrator, is very snappy with MS Mark. I used Narrator in Edge, and it works well.

When you get 1709, you will love how well NVDA works with it.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

 

Well I got it on my i5 quad gen4 which I updated bios last month and my

i5 duel hp 7th gen this morning though the first one had 2 cu updates

after that but the desktop one worked as expected.

 

I did have adobe flash, java and google updates to contend with but

nothing else.

 

 

 

 

On 18/10/2017 4:49 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

> I don't think it's out yet.

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> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby Vinton

> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 12:17 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

>  

> Hay I was wondering if the windows 10 fall creaters update is out yet.  If it is could you please let me know because I can’t find the iso or the newest up grade tool yet.

>  

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

>  

 

 

 

 


Win 10 Fall Creator update

Don H
 

Is there a web site that explains any changes in the new Fall Creator edition when it comes to accessibility improvements?


Re: where does NVDA support OS system API MSAA

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

You really need to raise this as an issue in github so the devs will see it, and also try to get a good argument for writing the app module, or alternatively, put it on the add ons list and suggest an add on is created for it if the resources are in nvda to achieve it.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Lane" <derek@pdaudio.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:47 PM
Subject: [nvda] where does NVDA support OS system API MSAA


I ask this question because I'm wondering what it would take for NVDA to work with the zoom meeting platform, and receive notifications from it, as other screen readers do.

The information I was able to get from zoom is the following, and will hopefully be of help for anyone who could take advantage of this info...


"Zoom client in Windows uses OS system API MSAA to support screen reader. The SPEC is described here: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd317990(v=vs.85).aspx
In particular details, Zoom client calls the MSAA API https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd373603(v=vs.85).aspx to notify system to inform the screen reader to speak."
Thanks!



Re: Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts

David Griffith
 

I believe that this is the correct diagnoses.

I was getting a regular alert message every time I started Firefox which was impossible to find and dismiss using either  NVDA or Jaws butg  in my case turning web developer mode turned it off and I no longer get the annoying messages.

David Griffith

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Gene
Sent: 18 October 2017 09:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts

 

I don't know if there is any connection.  One accessibility problem deals with edit fields.  This question deals with a message being displayed somewhere in the Chrome window and how to see and dismiss it.  I don't know if either are possible but this is just a display of text somewhere and isn't an edit field.

 

Gene

----- original message -----

From: Blee Blat

Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 9:35 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts

 

Is this related to that bug that still means that some edit fields don't
read in Chrome? Or is that a different bug? And by not reading I mean
that I can type text but cannot review the text with cursor keys to
select or edit it on some form fields in Chrome, even though the same
fields work in Firefox.

 


Re: windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

 

Well I got it on my i5 quad gen4 which I updated bios last month and my i5 duel hp 7th gen this morning though the first one had 2 cu updates after that but the desktop one worked as expected.

I did have adobe flash, java and google updates to contend with but nothing else.

On 18/10/2017 4:49 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I don't think it's out yet.




From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby Vinton
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 12:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today


Hay I was wondering if the windows 10 fall creaters update is out yet. If it is could you please let me know because I can’t find the iso or the newest up grade tool yet.


Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10





Re: Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts

Gene
 

I don't know if there is any connection.  One accessibility problem deals with edit fields.  This question deals with a message being displayed somewhere in the Chrome window and how to see and dismiss it.  I don't know if either are possible but this is just a display of text somewhere and isn't an edit field.
 
Gene
----- original message -----

From: Blee Blat
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts

Is this related to that bug that still means that some edit fields don't
read in Chrome? Or is that a different bug? And by not reading I mean
that I can type text but cannot review the text with cursor keys to
select or edit it on some form fields in Chrome, even though the same
fields work in Firefox.



Re: Win Fall Creator update

Blee Blat <bleeblat@...>
 

Yeah, that is a good point. I already had to run the troubleshooter once because the initial update corrupted the Windows database. I think that the poor wifi signal here might have been partly responsible for that though.


Re: Win Fall Creator update

Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@...>
 

although the time has passed to mensione it in our final checkups 1
thing you need to do after installing a major update is do a manual
check for update although windows should do this automatically but you
never know you may miss a driver update.

On 10/18/17, lauracornwell <lauracornwell1@gmail.com> wrote:
Well I have the new fall update and so far things are working OK over
hear.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary
Metzler
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win Fall Creator update

I just finished installing the update and so far so good.

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 3:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Win Fall Creator update

Just finished installing the Windows 10 Fall Creator update. Happy to say
that NVDA continues to work well after the update.











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Re: Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts

Blee Blat <bleeblat@...>
 

Is this related to that bug that still means that some edit fields don't read in Chrome? Or is that a different bug? And by not reading I mean that I can type text but cannot review the text with cursor keys to select or edit it on some form fields in Chrome, even though the same fields work in Firefox.


Re: Win Fall Creator update

lauracornwell
 

Well I have the new fall update and so far things are working OK over hear.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win Fall Creator update

I just finished installing the update and so far so good.

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 3:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Win Fall Creator update

Just finished installing the Windows 10 Fall Creator update. Happy to say that NVDA continues to work well after the update.


Re: Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts

Gene
 

It may be mostly for the reason you say, but when I go to some web sites using Chrome, I get a message that says alert and often nothing more.  This particularly happens on Youttube where the messages seem to alert me that an add is playing that can be skipped, but because they are not read often, only the word "alert" is spoken, I'm inferring what the message may say from the very few times I've heard it read.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts

The reason that you are getting the chrome Developer Alert Tools in either in Chrome or Firefox is that you have the Developer Mode turned on.

Go in firefox to Tools then cursor down to Web Developer and then make sure that everything is unchecked in the sub menu which appears after that.

You might have to repeat the uncheck for every item you have in the web developer sub menu.

If you are using Chrome then this presumably  will also be in the Chrome menus somewhere.

 

However once these web developer options are all unchecked the inaccessible and annoying web development alerts should go away.

 

David Griffith

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Marcia Yale
Sent: 17 October 2017 19:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts

 

Every time I launch Chrome I hear "alert". Sometimes I am also told what the

alert is for, but either way, I can't get rid of the alert nor take any

action if I hear the actual message. Any help would be appreciated--shortcut

key, anything!

 

Marcia Yale

It is not our differences that divide us. It is our inability to recognize,

accept, and celebrate those differences.

Audre Lorde

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Win Fall Creator update

Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...>
 

I just finished installing the update and so far so good.

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 3:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Win Fall Creator update

Just finished installing the Windows 10 Fall Creator update. Happy to
say that NVDA continues to work well after the update.


Re: Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts

David Griffith
 

The reason that you are getting the chrome Developer Alert Tools in either in Chrome or Firefox is that you have the Developer Mode turned on.

Go in firefox to Tools then cursor down to Web Developer and then make sure that everything is unchecked in the sub menu which appears after that.

You might have to repeat the uncheck for every item you have in the web developer sub menu.

If you are using Chrome then this presumably  will also be in the Chrome menus somewhere.

 

However once these web developer options are all unchecked the inaccessible and annoying web development alerts should go away.

 

David Griffith

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Marcia Yale
Sent: 17 October 2017 19:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts

 

Every time I launch Chrome I hear "alert". Sometimes I am also told what the

alert is for, but either way, I can't get rid of the alert nor take any

action if I hear the actual message. Any help would be appreciated--shortcut

key, anything!

 

Marcia Yale

It is not our differences that divide us. It is our inability to recognize,

accept, and celebrate those differences.

Audre Lorde

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Win Fall Creator update

Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
 

Got it. Is downloading now.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 5:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win Fall Creator update

I think you just dl it from windows update. There is a page where you can get an iso but you need to dl the creater tool etc.

On Oct 17, 2017, at 1:34 PM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@gmail.com> wrote:

can any one direct me to a .iso version of the fall creators update?


On 10/17/2017 12:47 PM, Don H wrote:
Just finished installing the Windows 10 Fall Creator update. Happy to say that NVDA continues to work well after the update.






Re: Win 10 fall creator update link

Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
 

If I do the update, will download it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 5:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Win 10 fall creator update link

Here is a link to get the fall creator update.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10


Re: Win Fall Creator update

Sarah k Alawami
 

I think you just dl it from windows update. There is a page where you can get an iso but you need to dl the creater tool etc.

On Oct 17, 2017, at 1:34 PM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@gmail.com> wrote:

can any one direct me to a .iso version of the fall creators update?


On 10/17/2017 12:47 PM, Don H wrote:
Just finished installing the Windows 10 Fall Creator update. Happy to say that NVDA continues to work well after the update.






Re: Win Fall Creator update

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yeah it should. We worked hard to test that and we did report issues. Not all of them are fixed but I'm sure if you leave feedback those of us in the insider program will see it, or maybe hq will.

On Oct 17, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:

Just finished installing the Windows 10 Fall Creator update. Happy to say that NVDA continues to work well after the update.




Win 10 fall creator update link

Don H
 

Here is a link to get the fall creator update.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10


Re: Win Fall Creator update

 

can any one direct me to a .iso version of the fall creators update?

On 10/17/2017 12:47 PM, Don H wrote:
Just finished installing the Windows 10 Fall Creator update.  Happy to say that NVDA continues to work well after the update.




Re: Win Fall Creator update

Gene
 

But the next question is, what doesn't?  We'll see and it will be interesting to find out if people have problems and what they are.  From what I've read in the general press, some features are useful and improved.  But much appears to be of interest only to visual users.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 2:47 PM
Subject: [nvda] Win Fall Creator update

Just finished installing the Windows 10 Fall Creator update.  Happy to
say that NVDA continues to work well after the update.