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Re: where does NVDA support OS system API MSAA
John Isige
Shouldn't it just work? It's using MSAA and NVDA supports that. I thought the whole point of MSAA is that things get exposed to screen readers. I have no idea what the Zoom meeting thingy is so I can't really help beyond that, but my understanding was that MSAA just exposes things to screen readers and such. But yeah, the dev list would probably be a better place for this, unless somebody from there participates here and can tackle it.
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On 10/18/2017 4:31, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
You really need to raise this as an issue in github so the devs will see it, and also try to get a good argument for writing the app module, or alternatively, put it on the add ons list and suggest an add on is created for it if the resources are in nvda to achieve it.
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can't get the dictation sound
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, everyone,
I wanted to try to dictate a message but when I hit windows H, I didn't get the dictation sound. I just got the new fall creators update and would like to try dictating messages. How do I get the sound?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Rosemarie
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Re: windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, David,
I just got it but I can't get it to dictate. Do I have to have a microphone?
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 9:16 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today
Wow, Rosemarie! If you press: Windows+H, you hear a sound, and you can start dictating. When you stop, you hear a different sound, and you can read what you dictated. I am dictating this email right now. I am just talking out loud, after I pressed that command. Well, let us see how well this dictation did! This is a great feature of 1709! I can’t wait until you get it! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Oh wow! I haven't gotten the new creator update yet but that's great that NVDA and narrator work so well with it.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Hi all! I got the Fall Creators 1709 of win10 yesterday in my updates. It downloaded and installed without a hitch. It took 90 minutes to download, but it took two hours to install. It got stuck at 70 percent for an hour, but I just waited patiently, and it finished. Wow, I am using NVDA version Version: master-14532,58e1946e And it is so snappy in Edge, that I can’t believe it. NVDA is working better in this 1709, than it ever has. I just want everyone to know that NVDA is so snappy as well in file explorer. It is much snappier when I arrow through ffiles and folders in different areas of file explorer. The Mail app is working great with NVDA. Narrator, is very snappy with MS Mark. I used Narrator in Edge, and it works well. When you get 1709, you will love how well NVDA works with it. David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Shaun Everiss
Well I got it on my i5 quad gen4 which I updated bios last month and my i5 duel hp 7th gen this morning though the first one had 2 cu updates after that but the desktop one worked as expected.
I did have adobe flash, java and google updates to contend with but nothing else.
On 18/10/2017 4:49 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: > I don't think it's out yet. > > > > > > > > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby Vinton > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 12:17 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today > > > > Hay I was wondering if the windows 10 fall creaters update is out yet. If it is could you please let me know because I can’t find the iso or the newest up grade tool yet. > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 > > > > > >
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Re: kindle and nvda
John Isige
See NVDA user guide, Sec. 10.8.
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On 10/18/2017 12:54, erik burggraaf wrote:
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kindle and nvda
erik burggraaf <erik@...>
Hello all, I have been reading up on the Kindle for PC app from Amazon. It is supposed to have special functions that work specifically with nvda, but I cannot find any documentation other than the fact that they exist. The following two links are the
best documentation I have been able to find Colon https://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=202124070 https://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246000 I am not seeing how to move by
characters words mines and sentences. It any direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and regards, Eric Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today
David Moore
Wow, Rosemarie! If you press: Windows+H, you hear a sound, and you can start dictating. When you stop, you hear a different sound, and you can read what you dictated. I am dictating this email right now. I am just talking out loud, after I pressed that command. Well, let us see how well this dictation did! This is a great feature of 1709! I can’t wait until you get it! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 11:29 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today
Oh wow! I haven't gotten the new creator update yet but that's great that NVDA and narrator work so well with it.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Hi all! I got the Fall Creators 1709 of win10 yesterday in my updates. It downloaded and installed without a hitch. It took 90 minutes to download, but it took two hours to install. It got stuck at 70 percent for an hour, but I just waited patiently, and it finished. Wow, I am using NVDA version Version: master-14532,58e1946e And it is so snappy in Edge, that I can’t believe it. NVDA is working better in this 1709, than it ever has. I just want everyone to know that NVDA is so snappy as well in file explorer. It is much snappier when I arrow through ffiles and folders in different areas of file explorer. The Mail app is working great with NVDA. Narrator, is very snappy with MS Mark. I used Narrator in Edge, and it works well. When you get 1709, you will love how well NVDA works with it. David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Shaun Everiss
Well I got it on my i5 quad gen4 which I updated bios last month and my i5 duel hp 7th gen this morning though the first one had 2 cu updates after that but the desktop one worked as expected.
I did have adobe flash, java and google updates to contend with but nothing else.
On 18/10/2017 4:49 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: > I don't think it's out yet. > > > > > > > > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby Vinton > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 12:17 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today > > > > Hay I was wondering if the windows 10 fall creaters update is out yet. If it is could you please let me know because I can’t find the iso or the newest up grade tool yet. > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 > > > > > >
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Re: Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts
Gene
Are you saying you get alerts on web pages in
general or only on some pages such as when listening to a youtube video?
Since developer tools are not active by default in any browser I know of, I'm
doubtful that they were the cause. Also, I've never looked at developer
tools in Chrome. Is there a setting to just turn them completely
off? There is in Firefox and in Firefox they are off by
default.
there is also another option that has nothing to do
with Firefox. You could use the speech dictionary to cause the word alert
not to be spoken. This would cause it not to be spoken ever, which may be
a consequence you don't want. But it's an option.
At times, I've used the speech dictionary to cause
a word to make a short sound so I know the word is there but it's much faster
than listening to the word. For example, I don't recall what the word is
now, but I set NVDA to make a sound like aa by placing to or three a's in the
pronounced as field. So you could hear something like aa instead of
alert. I did that because there might be times I wanted to hear whatever
word I was hearing on some web sites spoken but not in general because it was
some sort of unnecessary web page information that was often being read.
It isn't anymore but for awhile, on one or two web sites, it was a real
annoyance I greatly reduced in that way.
Gene
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From: Marcia Yale
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about Google Chrome and annoying
alerts That part of the menu system is not completely accessible and, though I have unchecked a few boxes, I’m still getting the alerts.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David Griffith
I believe that this is the correct diagnoses. I was getting a regular alert message every time I started Firefox which was impossible to find and dismiss using either NVDA or Jaws butg in my case turning web developer mode turned it off and I no longer get the annoying messages. David Griffith
My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
From:
Gene
I don't know if there is any connection. One accessibility problem deals with edit fields. This question deals with a message being displayed somewhere in the Chrome window and how to see and dismiss it. I don't know if either are possible but this is just a display of text somewhere and isn't an edit field.
Gene ----- original message ----- From: Blee Blat Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts
Is this related to that bug that still means
that some edit fields don't
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Re: Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts
Marcia Yale
That part of the menu system is not completely accessible and, though I have unchecked a few boxes, I’m still getting the alerts.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 5:24 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts
I believe that this is the correct diagnoses. I was getting a regular alert message every time I started Firefox which was impossible to find and dismiss using either NVDA or Jaws butg in my case turning web developer mode turned it off and I no longer get the annoying messages. David Griffith
My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
From: Gene
I don't know if there is any connection. One accessibility problem deals with edit fields. This question deals with a message being displayed somewhere in the Chrome window and how to see and dismiss it. I don't know if either are possible but this is just a display of text somewhere and isn't an edit field.
Gene ----- original message ----- From: Blee Blat Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts
Is this related to that bug that still means that some edit fields don't
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Re: windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today
Rosemarie Chavarria
Oh wow! I haven't gotten the new creator update yet but that's great that NVDA and narrator work so well with it.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 6:18 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today
Hi all! I got the Fall Creators 1709 of win10 yesterday in my updates. It downloaded and installed without a hitch. It took 90 minutes to download, but it took two hours to install. It got stuck at 70 percent for an hour, but I just waited patiently, and it finished. Wow, I am using NVDA version Version: master-14532,58e1946e And it is so snappy in Edge, that I can’t believe it. NVDA is working better in this 1709, than it ever has. I just want everyone to know that NVDA is so snappy as well in file explorer. It is much snappier when I arrow through ffiles and folders in different areas of file explorer. The Mail app is working great with NVDA. Narrator, is very snappy with MS Mark. I used Narrator in Edge, and it works well. When you get 1709, you will love how well NVDA works with it. David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Shaun Everiss
Well I got it on my i5 quad gen4 which I updated bios last month and my i5 duel hp 7th gen this morning though the first one had 2 cu updates after that but the desktop one worked as expected.
I did have adobe flash, java and google updates to contend with but nothing else.
On 18/10/2017 4:49 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: > I don't think it's out yet. > > > > > > > > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby Vinton > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 12:17 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today > > > > Hay I was wondering if the windows 10 fall creaters update is out yet. If it is could you please let me know because I can’t find the iso or the newest up grade tool yet. > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 > > > > > >
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Re: dictation on the fly windows key plus h
Hareth <hareth4m@...>
Josh, I don't think any addon needed for that, simply press NVDA plus
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s to toggle speech mode on and off. That should help for timefor NVDA devs or win10 app addon create a fix for that. Best
On 10/18/17, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:
in the new windows 10 update, you can dictate text on demand and use
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Re: dictation on the fly windows key plus h
David Moore
Hi Josh! Thanks! I love this dictation on the fly as well. I just turn off the speech of NVDA, by pressing: NVDA+S, I dictate, and I just press the NVDA+S again to turn the speech back on! This is very exciting, and I do love the feature in Narrator to describe an image. I have wanted that feature in NVDA as well. I love 1709, and it is so much snappier in Edge using NVDA! Have a great one! sSent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 10:41 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] dictation on the fly windows key plus h
Wow! Sounds good.
Maybe this could be handled by shutting NVDA up if the windows+h key is pressed. Not sure how it would be turned back on once the dictation is done though.
Definitely sounds interesting though.
Dan Beaver
On 10/18/2017 10:32 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
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Re: dictation on the fly windows key plus h
Dan Beaver
Wow! Sounds good.
Maybe this could be handled by shutting NVDA up if the windows+h key is pressed. Not sure how it would be turned back on once the dictation is done though.
Definitely sounds interesting though.
Dan Beaver
On 10/18/2017 10:32 AM, Josh Kennedy
wrote:
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dictation on the fly windows key plus h
Josh Kennedy
in the new windows 10 update, you can dictate text on demand and
use some basic dictation commands. you do this by hitting windows
key plus h. before dictating, a sound is played. when you are done
dictating, the computer senses you are done and then you hear the
new stop dictating sound effect. there is a problem though. while
dictating, NVDA tries to echo what is typed as you dictate. I
installed dictation bridge, no change. It would be far better if
NVDA would wait until the dictation was finnished, and then speak
what was just dictated. Seems like dictation bridge does not
support this new form of windows dictation. Could someone on the
list please maybe fix this issue with an addon? thanks. I tested out this new form of dictation, and even without
training, it works very very good. so you can just dictate on the
fly. also the narrator feature of describing any image or graphic
works good, wish this also were implemented into NVDA. Josh
-- sent with mozilla thunderbird
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Re: Win 10 Fall Creator update
Tony Ballou
Hi Don,
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Here are a few to get you going. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Accessibility/windows https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/accessibility/2017/10/17/windows-10-accessibility-update/ https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-details-accessibility-improvements-windows-10-fall-creators-update http://www.techradar.com/news/fall-creators-update-aims-to-make-windows-10-more-accessible Tony
On 10/18/2017 9:10 AM, Don H wrote:
Is there a web site that explains any changes in the new Fall Creator
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Re: Win 10 Fall Creator update
David Griffith
I believe this is the page you want. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/accessibility/2017/10/17/windows-10-accessibility-update/
David Griffith My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
From: Don H
Sent: 18 October 2017 14:10 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Win 10 Fall Creator update
Is there a web site that explains any changes in the new Fall Creator edition when it comes to accessibility improvements?
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Re: windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today
David Moore
Hi all! I got the Fall Creators 1709 of win10 yesterday in my updates. It downloaded and installed without a hitch. It took 90 minutes to download, but it took two hours to install. It got stuck at 70 percent for an hour, but I just waited patiently, and it finished. Wow, I am using NVDA version Version: master-14532,58e1946e And it is so snappy in Edge, that I can’t believe it. NVDA is working better in this 1709, than it ever has. I just want everyone to know that NVDA is so snappy as well in file explorer. It is much snappier when I arrow through ffiles and folders in different areas of file explorer. The Mail app is working great with NVDA. Narrator, is very snappy with MS Mark. I used Narrator in Edge, and it works well. When you get 1709, you will love how well NVDA works with it. David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today
Well I got it on my i5 quad gen4 which I updated bios last month and my i5 duel hp 7th gen this morning though the first one had 2 cu updates after that but the desktop one worked as expected.
I did have adobe flash, java and google updates to contend with but nothing else.
On 18/10/2017 4:49 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: > I don't think it's out yet. > > > > > > > > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby Vinton > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 12:17 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today > > > > Hay I was wondering if the windows 10 fall creaters update is out yet. If it is could you please let me know because I can’t find the iso or the newest up grade tool yet. > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 > > > > > >
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Win 10 Fall Creator update
Don H
Is there a web site that explains any changes in the new Fall Creator edition when it comes to accessibility improvements?
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Re: where does NVDA support OS system API MSAA
Brian's Mail list account
You really need to raise this as an issue in github so the devs will see it, and also try to get a good argument for writing the app module, or alternatively, put it on the add ons list and suggest an add on is created for it if the resources are in nvda to achieve it.
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From: "Derek Lane" <derek@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:47 PM Subject: [nvda] where does NVDA support OS system API MSAA I ask this question because I'm wondering what it would take for NVDA to work with the zoom meeting platform, and receive notifications from it, as other screen readers do.
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Re: Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts
David Griffith
I believe that this is the correct diagnoses. I was getting a regular alert message every time I started Firefox which was impossible to find and dismiss using either NVDA or Jaws butg in my case turning web developer mode turned it off and I no longer get the annoying messages. David Griffith
My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
From: Gene
Sent: 18 October 2017 09:50 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts
I don't know if there is any connection. One accessibility problem deals with edit fields. This question deals with a message being displayed somewhere in the Chrome window and how to see and dismiss it. I don't know if either are possible but this is just a display of text somewhere and isn't an edit field.
Gene ----- original message ----- From: Blee Blat Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts
Is this related to that bug that still means that some edit fields don't
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Re: windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today
Well I got it on my i5 quad gen4 which I updated bios last month and my i5 duel hp 7th gen this morning though the first one had 2 cu updates after that but the desktop one worked as expected.
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I did have adobe flash, java and google updates to contend with but nothing else.
On 18/10/2017 4:49 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I don't think it's out yet.
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