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Re: kindle and nvda

lauracornwell <lauracornwell1@...>
 

Hey there,
I hope that everyone's day is well mine started off great but because of a
friend whose PC got formatted buy someone who was using the same NVdA
remote key that he was he is the second person that I know that this kind
of thing hashappend to I am wanting to find out is is there a Remote Dev
on this list who will please get back with me this is a crime what this
person did and I want to see something done.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Isige
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] kindle and nvda

See NVDA user guide, Sec. 10.8.


On 10/18/2017 12:54, erik burggraaf wrote:

Hello all, I have been reading up on the Kindle for PC app from
Amazon. It is supposed to have special functions that work
specifically with nvda, but I cannot find any documentation other than
the fact that they exist.

The following two links are the best documentation I have been able to
find Colon

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=202124070

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246000

I am not seeing how to move by characters  words mines and sentences.
  I am also not clear on how to use special nvda features like the
ability to look up words within a Kindle ebook.

It any direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and regards,
Eric



Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: where does NVDA support OS system API MSAA

 

Hi,
In short, accessibility API's are a way for programs and screen readers to cooperate and communicate accurate info about controls, what's happening and what not. In case of Microsoft Active Accessibility or IAccessible, it usually refers to exposing correct info about a control for screen readers and raising appropriate events. By default, NVDA will not automatically announce when something happens on screen unless NVDA is told to keep an eye on events that programs raise.
Regarding the program in question: I advise contacting NV Access and see if they can take a look at it for a fee, or if a free version or a demo can be downloaded, let one of us take a look at it and provide recommendations (unfortunately, due to various commitments, I won't be able to do that at this time).
Cheers,
joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 11:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] where does NVDA support OS system API MSAA

Shouldn't it just work? It's using MSAA and NVDA supports that. I thought the whole point of MSAA is that things get exposed to screen readers. I have no idea what the Zoom meeting thingy is so I can't really help beyond that, but my understanding was that MSAA just exposes things to screen readers and such. But yeah, the dev list would probably be a better place for this, unless somebody from there participates here and can tackle it.


On 10/18/2017 4:31, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
You really need to raise this as an issue in github so the devs will
see it, and also try to get a good argument for writing the app
module, or alternatively, put it on the add ons list and suggest an
add on is created for it if the resources are in nvda to achieve it.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Lane" <derek@pdaudio.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:47 PM
Subject: [nvda] where does NVDA support OS system API MSAA


I ask this question because I'm wondering what it would take for NVDA
to work with the zoom meeting platform, and receive notifications
from it, as other screen readers do.

The information I was able to get from zoom is the following, and
will hopefully be of help for anyone who could take advantage of this
info...


"Zoom client in Windows uses OS system API MSAA to support screen
reader. The SPEC is described here:
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd317990(v=v
s.85).aspx In particular details, Zoom client calls the MSAA API
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd373603(v=v
s.85).aspx to notify system to inform the screen reader to speak."
Thanks!






Re: where does NVDA support OS system API MSAA

John Isige
 

Shouldn't it just work? It's using MSAA and NVDA supports that. I thought the whole point of MSAA is that things get exposed to screen readers. I have no idea what the Zoom meeting thingy is so I can't really help beyond that, but my understanding was that MSAA just exposes things to screen readers and such. But yeah, the dev list would probably be a better place for this, unless somebody from there participates here and can tackle it.

On 10/18/2017 4:31, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
You really need to raise this as an issue in github so the devs will see it, and also try to get a good argument for writing the app module, or alternatively, put it on the add ons list and suggest an add on is created for it if the resources are in nvda to achieve it.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Lane" <derek@pdaudio.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:47 PM
Subject: [nvda] where does NVDA support OS system API MSAA


I ask this question because I'm wondering what it would take for NVDA to work with the zoom meeting platform, and receive notifications from it, as other screen readers do.

The information I was able to get from zoom is the following, and will hopefully be of help for anyone who could take advantage of this info...


"Zoom client in Windows uses OS system API MSAA to support screen reader. The SPEC is described here: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd317990(v=vs.85).aspx
In particular details, Zoom client calls the MSAA API https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd373603(v=vs.85).aspx to notify system to inform the screen reader to speak."
Thanks!





can't get the dictation sound

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

 

I wanted to try to dictate a message but when I hit windows H, I didn't get the dictation sound. I just got the new fall creators update and would like to try dictating messages. How do I get the sound?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 


Re: windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, David,

 

I just got it but I can't get it to dictate. Do I have to have a microphone?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 9:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

 

Wow, Rosemarie!

If you press:

Windows+H, you hear a sound, and you can start dictating. When you stop, you hear a different sound, and you can read what you dictated.

I am dictating this email right now.

I am just talking out loud, after I pressed that command.

Well, let us see how well this dictation did!

This is a great feature of 1709!

I can’t wait until you get it!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 11:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

 

Oh wow! I haven't gotten the new creator update yet but that's great that NVDA and narrator work so well with it.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 6:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

 

Hi all!

I got the Fall Creators 1709 of win10 yesterday in my updates.

It downloaded and installed without a hitch. It took 90 minutes to download, but it took two hours to install. It got stuck at 70 percent for an hour, but I just waited patiently, and it finished.

Wow, I am using NVDA version

Version: master-14532,58e1946e

And it is so snappy in Edge, that I can’t believe it. NVDA is working better in this 1709, than it ever has. I just want everyone to know that NVDA is so snappy as well in file explorer. It is much snappier when I arrow through ffiles and folders in different areas of file explorer. The Mail app is working great with NVDA.

Narrator, is very snappy with MS Mark. I used Narrator in Edge, and it works well.

When you get 1709, you will love how well NVDA works with it.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

 

Well I got it on my i5 quad gen4 which I updated bios last month and my

i5 duel hp 7th gen this morning though the first one had 2 cu updates

after that but the desktop one worked as expected.

 

I did have adobe flash, java and google updates to contend with but

nothing else.

 

 

 

 

On 18/10/2017 4:49 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

> I don't think it's out yet.

>  

>  

>  

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby Vinton

> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 12:17 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

>  

> Hay I was wondering if the windows 10 fall creaters update is out yet.  If it is could you please let me know because I can’t find the iso or the newest up grade tool yet.

>  

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

>  

 

 

 

 

 


Re: kindle and nvda

John Isige
 

See NVDA user guide, Sec. 10.8.

On 10/18/2017 12:54, erik burggraaf wrote:

Hello all, I have been reading up on the Kindle for PC app from
Amazon. It is supposed to have special functions that work
specifically with nvda, but I cannot find any documentation other than
the fact that they exist.

The following two links are the best documentation I have been able to
find Colon

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=202124070

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246000

I am not seeing how to move by characters  words mines and sentences.
  I am also not clear on how to use special nvda features like the
ability to look up words within a Kindle ebook.

It any direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and regards, Eric



Sent from Mail for Windows 10


kindle and nvda

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

Hello all, I have been reading up on the Kindle for PC app from Amazon. It is supposed to have special functions that work specifically with nvda, but I cannot find any documentation other than the fact that they exist.

The following two links are the best documentation I have been able to find Colon

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=202124070

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246000

I am not seeing how to move by characters  words mines and sentences.
  I am also not clear on how to use special nvda features like the ability to look up words within a Kindle ebook.

It any direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and regards, Eric



Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

David Moore
 

Wow, Rosemarie!

If you press:

Windows+H, you hear a sound, and you can start dictating. When you stop, you hear a different sound, and you can read what you dictated.

I am dictating this email right now.

I am just talking out loud, after I pressed that command.

Well, let us see how well this dictation did!

This is a great feature of 1709!

I can’t wait until you get it!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 11:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

 

Oh wow! I haven't gotten the new creator update yet but that's great that NVDA and narrator work so well with it.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 6:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

 

Hi all!

I got the Fall Creators 1709 of win10 yesterday in my updates.

It downloaded and installed without a hitch. It took 90 minutes to download, but it took two hours to install. It got stuck at 70 percent for an hour, but I just waited patiently, and it finished.

Wow, I am using NVDA version

Version: master-14532,58e1946e

And it is so snappy in Edge, that I can’t believe it. NVDA is working better in this 1709, than it ever has. I just want everyone to know that NVDA is so snappy as well in file explorer. It is much snappier when I arrow through ffiles and folders in different areas of file explorer. The Mail app is working great with NVDA.

Narrator, is very snappy with MS Mark. I used Narrator in Edge, and it works well.

When you get 1709, you will love how well NVDA works with it.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

 

Well I got it on my i5 quad gen4 which I updated bios last month and my

i5 duel hp 7th gen this morning though the first one had 2 cu updates

after that but the desktop one worked as expected.

 

I did have adobe flash, java and google updates to contend with but

nothing else.

 

 

 

 

On 18/10/2017 4:49 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

> I don't think it's out yet.

>  

>  

>  

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby Vinton

> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 12:17 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

>  

> Hay I was wondering if the windows 10 fall creaters update is out yet.  If it is could you please let me know because I can’t find the iso or the newest up grade tool yet.

>  

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

>  

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts

Gene
 

Are you saying you get alerts on web pages in general or only on some pages such as when listening to a youtube video?  Since developer tools are not active by default in any browser I know of, I'm doubtful that they were the cause.  Also, I've never looked at developer tools in Chrome.  Is there a setting to just turn them completely off?  There is in Firefox and in Firefox they are off by default.
 
there is also another option that has nothing to do with Firefox.  You could use the speech dictionary to cause the word alert not to be spoken.  This would cause it not to be spoken ever, which may be a consequence you don't want.  But it's an option.
 
At times, I've used the speech dictionary to cause a word to make a short sound so I know the word is there but it's much faster than listening to the word.  For example, I don't recall what the word is now, but I set NVDA to make a sound like aa by placing to or three a's in the pronounced as field.  So you could hear something like aa instead of alert.  I did that because there might be times I wanted to hear whatever word I was hearing on some web sites spoken but not in general because it was some sort of unnecessary web page information that was often being read.  It isn't anymore but for awhile, on one or two web sites, it was a real annoyance I greatly reduced in that way.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts

That part of the menu system is not completely accessible and, though I have unchecked a few boxes, I’m still getting the alerts.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 5:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts

 

I believe that this is the correct diagnoses.

I was getting a regular alert message every time I started Firefox which was impossible to find and dismiss using either  NVDA or Jaws butg  in my case turning web developer mode turned it off and I no longer get the annoying messages.

David Griffith

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Gene
Sent: 18 October 2017 09:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts

 

I don't know if there is any connection.  One accessibility problem deals with edit fields.  This question deals with a message being displayed somewhere in the Chrome window and how to see and dismiss it.  I don't know if either are possible but this is just a display of text somewhere and isn't an edit field.

 

Gene

----- original message -----

From: Blee Blat

Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 9:35 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts

 

Is this related to that bug that still means that some edit fields don't
read in Chrome? Or is that a different bug? And by not reading I mean
that I can type text but cannot review the text with cursor keys to
select or edit it on some form fields in Chrome, even though the same
fields work in Firefox.

 


Re: Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts

Marcia Yale
 

That part of the menu system is not completely accessible and, though I have unchecked a few boxes, I’m still getting the alerts.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 5:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts

 

I believe that this is the correct diagnoses.

I was getting a regular alert message every time I started Firefox which was impossible to find and dismiss using either  NVDA or Jaws butg  in my case turning web developer mode turned it off and I no longer get the annoying messages.

David Griffith

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Gene
Sent: 18 October 2017 09:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts

 

I don't know if there is any connection.  One accessibility problem deals with edit fields.  This question deals with a message being displayed somewhere in the Chrome window and how to see and dismiss it.  I don't know if either are possible but this is just a display of text somewhere and isn't an edit field.

 

Gene

----- original message -----

From: Blee Blat

Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 9:35 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about Google Chrome and annoying alerts

 

Is this related to that bug that still means that some edit fields don't
read in Chrome? Or is that a different bug? And by not reading I mean
that I can type text but cannot review the text with cursor keys to
select or edit it on some form fields in Chrome, even though the same
fields work in Firefox.

 


Re: windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Oh wow! I haven't gotten the new creator update yet but that's great that NVDA and narrator work so well with it.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 6:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

 

Hi all!

I got the Fall Creators 1709 of win10 yesterday in my updates.

It downloaded and installed without a hitch. It took 90 minutes to download, but it took two hours to install. It got stuck at 70 percent for an hour, but I just waited patiently, and it finished.

Wow, I am using NVDA version

Version: master-14532,58e1946e

And it is so snappy in Edge, that I can’t believe it. NVDA is working better in this 1709, than it ever has. I just want everyone to know that NVDA is so snappy as well in file explorer. It is much snappier when I arrow through ffiles and folders in different areas of file explorer. The Mail app is working great with NVDA.

Narrator, is very snappy with MS Mark. I used Narrator in Edge, and it works well.

When you get 1709, you will love how well NVDA works with it.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

 

Well I got it on my i5 quad gen4 which I updated bios last month and my

i5 duel hp 7th gen this morning though the first one had 2 cu updates

after that but the desktop one worked as expected.

 

I did have adobe flash, java and google updates to contend with but

nothing else.

 

 

 

 

On 18/10/2017 4:49 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

> I don't think it's out yet.

>  

>  

>  

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby Vinton

> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 12:17 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

>  

> Hay I was wondering if the windows 10 fall creaters update is out yet.  If it is could you please let me know because I can’t find the iso or the newest up grade tool yet.

>  

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

>  

 

 

 

 


Re: dictation on the fly windows key plus h

Hareth <hareth4m@...>
 

Josh, I don't think any addon needed for that, simply press NVDA plus
s to toggle speech mode on and off.
That should help for timefor NVDA devs or win10 app addon create a fix for that.
Best

On 10/18/17, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@gmail.com> wrote:
in the new windows 10 update, you can dictate text on demand and use
some basic dictation commands. you do this by hitting windows key plus
h. before dictating, a sound is played. when you are done dictating, the
computer senses you are done and then you hear the new stop dictating
sound effect. there is a problem though. while dictating, NVDA tries to
echo what is typed as you dictate. I installed dictation bridge, no
change. It would be far better if NVDA would wait until the dictation
was finnished, and then speak what was just dictated. Seems like
dictation bridge does not support this new form of windows dictation.
Could someone on the list please maybe fix this issue with an addon?
thanks.

I tested out this new form of dictation, and even without training, it
works very very good. so you can just dictate on the fly. also the
narrator feature of describing any image or graphic works good, wish
this also were implemented into NVDA.

Josh


--
sent with mozilla thunderbird


Re: dictation on the fly windows key plus h

David Moore
 

Hi Josh!

Thanks!

I love this dictation on the fly as well. I just turn off the speech of NVDA, by pressing:

NVDA+S, I dictate, and I just press the NVDA+S again to turn the speech back on!

This is very exciting, and I do love the feature in Narrator to describe an image. I have wanted that feature in NVDA as well.

I love 1709, and it is so much snappier in Edge using NVDA!

Have a great one!

sSent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 10:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dictation on the fly windows key plus h

 

Wow!  Sounds good.

 

Maybe this could be handled by shutting NVDA up if the windows+h key is pressed.  Not sure how it would be turned back on once the dictation is done though.

 

Definitely sounds interesting though.

 

Dan Beaver

 

On 10/18/2017 10:32 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

in the new windows 10 update, you can dictate text on demand and use some basic dictation commands. you do this by hitting windows key plus h. before dictating, a sound is played. when you are done dictating, the computer senses you are done and then you hear the new stop dictating sound effect. there is a problem though. while dictating, NVDA tries to echo what is typed as you dictate. I installed dictation bridge, no change. It would be far better if NVDA would wait until the dictation was finnished, and then speak what was just dictated. Seems like dictation bridge does not support this new form of windows dictation. Could someone on the list please maybe fix this issue with an addon? thanks.

I tested out this new form of dictation, and even without training, it works very very good. so you can just dictate on the fly. also the narrator feature of describing any image or graphic works good, wish this also were implemented into NVDA.

Josh

 

-- 
sent with mozilla thunderbird

 

 


Re: dictation on the fly windows key plus h

Dan Beaver
 

Wow!  Sounds good.


Maybe this could be handled by shutting NVDA up if the windows+h key is pressed.  Not sure how it would be turned back on once the dictation is done though.


Definitely sounds interesting though.


Dan Beaver


On 10/18/2017 10:32 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

in the new windows 10 update, you can dictate text on demand and use some basic dictation commands. you do this by hitting windows key plus h. before dictating, a sound is played. when you are done dictating, the computer senses you are done and then you hear the new stop dictating sound effect. there is a problem though. while dictating, NVDA tries to echo what is typed as you dictate. I installed dictation bridge, no change. It would be far better if NVDA would wait until the dictation was finnished, and then speak what was just dictated. Seems like dictation bridge does not support this new form of windows dictation. Could someone on the list please maybe fix this issue with an addon? thanks.

I tested out this new form of dictation, and even without training, it works very very good. so you can just dictate on the fly. also the narrator feature of describing any image or graphic works good, wish this also were implemented into NVDA.

Josh


-- 
sent with mozilla thunderbird


dictation on the fly windows key plus h

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
 

in the new windows 10 update, you can dictate text on demand and use some basic dictation commands. you do this by hitting windows key plus h. before dictating, a sound is played. when you are done dictating, the computer senses you are done and then you hear the new stop dictating sound effect. there is a problem though. while dictating, NVDA tries to echo what is typed as you dictate. I installed dictation bridge, no change. It would be far better if NVDA would wait until the dictation was finnished, and then speak what was just dictated. Seems like dictation bridge does not support this new form of windows dictation. Could someone on the list please maybe fix this issue with an addon? thanks.

I tested out this new form of dictation, and even without training, it works very very good. so you can just dictate on the fly. also the narrator feature of describing any image or graphic works good, wish this also were implemented into NVDA.

Josh


-- 
sent with mozilla thunderbird


Re: Win 10 Fall Creator update

Tony Ballou
 

On 10/18/2017 9:10 AM, Don H wrote:
Is there a web site that explains any changes in the new Fall Creator
edition when it comes to accessibility improvements?




Re: Win 10 Fall Creator update

David Griffith
 

 

I believe this is the page you want.

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/accessibility/2017/10/17/windows-10-accessibility-update/

 

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Don H
Sent: 18 October 2017 14:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Win 10 Fall Creator update

 

Is there a web site that explains any changes in the new Fall Creator

edition when it comes to accessibility improvements?

 

 

 

 


Re: windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

David Moore
 

Hi all!

I got the Fall Creators 1709 of win10 yesterday in my updates.

It downloaded and installed without a hitch. It took 90 minutes to download, but it took two hours to install. It got stuck at 70 percent for an hour, but I just waited patiently, and it finished.

Wow, I am using NVDA version

Version: master-14532,58e1946e

And it is so snappy in Edge, that I can’t believe it. NVDA is working better in this 1709, than it ever has. I just want everyone to know that NVDA is so snappy as well in file explorer. It is much snappier when I arrow through ffiles and folders in different areas of file explorer. The Mail app is working great with NVDA.

Narrator, is very snappy with MS Mark. I used Narrator in Edge, and it works well.

When you get 1709, you will love how well NVDA works with it.

David Moore

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From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

 

Well I got it on my i5 quad gen4 which I updated bios last month and my

i5 duel hp 7th gen this morning though the first one had 2 cu updates

after that but the desktop one worked as expected.

 

I did have adobe flash, java and google updates to contend with but

nothing else.

 

 

 

 

On 18/10/2017 4:49 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

> I don't think it's out yet.

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> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby Vinton

> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 12:17 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] windows 10 fall creaters update coming out today

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> Hay I was wondering if the windows 10 fall creaters update is out yet.  If it is could you please let me know because I can’t find the iso or the newest up grade tool yet.

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Win 10 Fall Creator update

Don H
 

Is there a web site that explains any changes in the new Fall Creator edition when it comes to accessibility improvements?


Re: where does NVDA support OS system API MSAA

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You really need to raise this as an issue in github so the devs will see it, and also try to get a good argument for writing the app module, or alternatively, put it on the add ons list and suggest an add on is created for it if the resources are in nvda to achieve it.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Lane" <derek@pdaudio.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:47 PM
Subject: [nvda] where does NVDA support OS system API MSAA


I ask this question because I'm wondering what it would take for NVDA to work with the zoom meeting platform, and receive notifications from it, as other screen readers do.

The information I was able to get from zoom is the following, and will hopefully be of help for anyone who could take advantage of this info...


"Zoom client in Windows uses OS system API MSAA to support screen reader. The SPEC is described here: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd317990(v=vs.85).aspx
In particular details, Zoom client calls the MSAA API https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd373603(v=vs.85).aspx to notify system to inform the screen reader to speak."
Thanks!