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Re: the volume on the creators update is softer

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I ended up calling the microsoft disability line and they helped me solve the problem. I tried to set sounds and messed it up by choosing the HP device instead of speakers. Anyway, it's working fine now. Thanks for all your help.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Blee Blat
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 8:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer

And even if you do that it's still not likely to work. They must be using some on-chip codecs because I'm still getting dynamic compression applied. It's less worse than it was with the realtek services running, but it's still noticeable. This is not helpful for most sounds at all. I wonder what the hit for CPU performance is for this nonsense. I'll continue screwing around with drivers until I find a fix I guess. The phone doesn't have these artifacts, so at least I can just use that.


Sumatra PDF Reader, was: Re: [nvda] The In-Process "Choose-your-own-adventure" edition of In-Process!

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Zahra,

Thank you, I'm glad you liked the post!

There are a few PDF readers around, but for some reason many are inaccessible.  Does Sumatra do many things that Adobe Reader doesn't do?

Regards

Quentin.


On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 1:47 PM, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi quentin, your post was great!
can you contact developers of sumatra pdf reader and help them to make
there program accessible for screen reader users?
Allah bless you and his infinite mercy i pray for you every day.

On 10/19/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
> Here's a fun Thursday read, it's the NV Access "Choose-your-own-adventure"
> edition of In-Process! Giants, Caves, mountains and even BACON!
> https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-choose-your-own-adventure-edition/
>
> I hope you enjoy reading it as much as I enjoyed putting it together!
>
> Regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
> www.nvaccess.org
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>


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holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org






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Re: the volume on the creators update is softer

Blee Blat <bleeblat@...>
 

And even if you do that it's still not likely to work. They must be using some on-chip codecs because I'm still getting dynamic compression applied. It's less worse than it was with the realtek services running, but it's still noticeable. This is not helpful for most sounds at all. I wonder what the hit for CPU performance is for this nonsense. I'll continue screwing around with drivers until I find a fix I guess. The phone doesn't have these artifacts, so at least I can just use that.


Re: kindle and nvda

 

hello.

10.8. Kindle for PC
NVDA supports reading and navigating books in Amazon Kindle for PC.
This functionality is only available in Kindle books designated with
"Screen Reader: Supported" which you can check on the details page for
the book.
Browse mode is used to read books. It is enabled automatically when
you open a book or focus the book area. The page will be turned
automatically as appropriate when you move the cursor or use the say
all command. You can manually turn to the next page with the pageDown
key and turn to the previous page with the pageUp key.
Single letter navigation is supported for links and graphics, but only
within the current page. Navigating by link also includes footnotes.
10.8.1. Text Selection
Kindle allows you to perform various functions on selected text,
including obtaining a dictionary definition, adding notes and
highlights, copying the text to the clipboard and searching the web.
To do this, first select text as you normally would in browse mode;
e.g. by using shift and the cursor keys. Once you have selected text,
press the applications key or shift+f10 to show the available options
for working with the selection. If you do this with no text selected,
options will be shown for the word at the cursor.
10.8.2. User Notes
You can add a note regarding a word or passage of text. To do this,
first select the relevant text and access the selection options as
described above. Then, choose Add Note.
When reading in browse mode, NVDA refers to these notes as comments.
To view, edit or delete a note:
1. Move the cursor to the text containing the note.
2. Access the options for the selection as described above.
3. Choose Edit Note.
hope that help, God bless you!

On 10/19/17, Aravind R <aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com> wrote:
some books are designed as screen reader accessible like something in
kindle. with those books only, NVDA will work. else we should rely on
kindle's default reader. thats why kindle is useless to me as i'm
unable to purchase and read my most wanted tamil books and unable to
find out the list of english books enabled with screen reader support.

On 10/19/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Do you know how to send completely new messages to the list? You sent
your
message in a completely unrelated thread, you left the subject line the
same, and you left all the unrelated messages below yours.
If you do that, you make it much less likely that those you want to reach
will read the message. Many people decide which messages to read by
reading
the subject lines. Such people won't even know you sent a message on a
different subject.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: lauracornwell
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 1:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] kindle and nvda


Hey there,
I hope that everyone's day is well mine started off great but because
of
a
friend whose PC got formatted buy someone who was using the same
NVdA
remote key that he was he is the second person that I know that this
kind
of thing hashappend to I am wanting to find out is is there a Remote
Dev
on this list who will please get back with me this is a crime what this
person did and I want to see something done.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Isige
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] kindle and nvda

See NVDA user guide, Sec. 10.8.


On 10/18/2017 12:54, erik burggraaf wrote:

Hello all, I have been reading up on the Kindle for PC app from
Amazon. It is supposed to have special functions that work
specifically with nvda, but I cannot find any documentation other than
the fact that they exist.

The following two links are the best documentation I have been able to
find Colon

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=202124070

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246000

I am not seeing how to move by characters words mines and sentences.
I am also not clear on how to use special nvda features like the
ability to look up words within a Kindle ebook.

It any direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and regards,
Eric



Sent from Mail for Windows 10









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nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613.
email id : aravind_069@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com.



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: the volume on the creators update is softer

Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@...>
 

for all who have audio problems. just try going to the realtech
website and get the latest driver see if it solves it.

On 10/19/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't have a laptop but apparently you can't disable enhancements on this
desktop either so I guess I'm stuck with it. Thanks for trying to help
though. I'll call Microsoft tomorrow and see if they can figure it out. I
sure can't.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Blee
Blat
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 6:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer

And if you are unlucky enough to have one of these laptops with DTS linked
to the realtek audio manager, and no way to disable the "enhancements", then
you're stuck going into task manager and finding the startup tab and
disabling the realtek audio from there. At least that's what I ended up
doing. Plus, to make things worse, Windows onboard sound often defaults to
48000 hz for playback and recording, and that results in pops and crackles
for most sounds, because they're expecting 44100 hz. Now to go looking for a
portable sound card that also connects to the phone. I don't know why
manufacturers think I want my music screwed with. If I want all this
compression and stuff I can find an FM radio easily enough.






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Re: The In-Process "Choose-your-own-adventure" edition of In-Process!

 

hi quentin, your post was great!
can you contact developers of sumatra pdf reader and help them to make
there program accessible for screen reader users?
Allah bless you and his infinite mercy i pray for you every day.

On 10/19/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Here's a fun Thursday read, it's the NV Access "Choose-your-own-adventure"
edition of In-Process! Giants, Caves, mountains and even BACON!
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-choose-your-own-adventure-edition/

I hope you enjoy reading it as much as I enjoyed putting it together!

Regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: Accessing toolbars in Firefox.

Gene
 

That allows you to show or hide certain tool bars but those aren't the ones being discussed.  There are tool bars you can't get to with f6.  I haven't found any way to get to them except by using object navigation with review keys or by causing NVDA to read all the objects and stopping reading where I want to be.  that stops you in the object or around the object you want to work in if you stop it quickly when you hear where you want to be.  Then you use object navigation and screen review to work with or move to and work with the item.  Someone may know of a way to move to the tool bars but I don't.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing toolbars in Firefox.

To access the Toolbar in Firefox press Alt V for view, in the menu bar
where the toolbar is located.

Robert Mendoza

On 10/19/2017 8:41 AM, John Isige wrote:
> Hey all. I swear there's a way to do this, but I can't remember it and
> I can't find it, either in the NVDA user guide or via google.
>
>
> How do you access toolbars in Firefox? With object navigation I can
> sort of get to one, but I only see a couple of buttons, e.g.
> "scribefire", which is something like 25 of 37. I can't see how to get
> to the rest of the buttons even with object nav, just the three or
> four that show up. I swear there was some sort of key you hit that
> toggled you into the toolbar so you could move through it and another
> way to move between them. Or maybe I'm thinking of something else or
> just hallucinating. Wouldn't surprise me, everybody else gets unicorns
> and dinosaurs and pink elephants and stuff, and I get access keys!
>
>
>
>




Re: the volume on the creators update is softer

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I don't have a laptop but apparently you can't disable enhancements on this desktop either so I guess I'm stuck with it. Thanks for trying to help though. I'll call Microsoft tomorrow and see if they can figure it out. I sure can't.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Blee Blat
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 6:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer

And if you are unlucky enough to have one of these laptops with DTS linked to the realtek audio manager, and no way to disable the "enhancements", then you're stuck going into task manager and finding the startup tab and disabling the realtek audio from there. At least that's what I ended up doing. Plus, to make things worse, Windows onboard sound often defaults to 48000 hz for playback and recording, and that results in pops and crackles for most sounds, because they're expecting 44100 hz. Now to go looking for a portable sound card that also connects to the phone. I don't know why manufacturers think I want my music screwed with. If I want all this compression and stuff I can find an FM radio easily enough.


Re: the volume on the creators update is softer

Blee Blat <bleeblat@...>
 

And if you are unlucky enough to have one of these laptops with DTS linked to the realtek audio manager, and no way to disable the "enhancements", then you're stuck going into task manager and finding the startup tab and disabling the realtek audio from there. At least that's what I ended up doing. Plus, to make things worse, Windows onboard sound often defaults to 48000 hz for playback and recording, and that results in pops and crackles for most sounds, because they're expecting 44100 hz. Now to go looking for a portable sound card that also connects to the phone. I don't know why manufacturers think I want my music screwed with. If I want all this compression and stuff I can find an FM radio easily enough.


The In-Process "Choose-your-own-adventure" edition of In-Process!

Quentin Christensen
 

Here's a fun Thursday read, it's the NV Access "Choose-your-own-adventure" edition of In-Process! Giants, Caves, mountains and even BACON! https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-choose-your-own-adventure-edition/

I hope you enjoy reading it as much as I enjoyed putting it together!

Regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: kindle and nvda

Aravind R
 

some books are designed as screen reader accessible like something in
kindle. with those books only, NVDA will work. else we should rely on
kindle's default reader. thats why kindle is useless to me as i'm
unable to purchase and read my most wanted tamil books and unable to
find out the list of english books enabled with screen reader support.

On 10/19/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Do you know how to send completely new messages to the list? You sent your
message in a completely unrelated thread, you left the subject line the
same, and you left all the unrelated messages below yours.
If you do that, you make it much less likely that those you want to reach
will read the message. Many people decide which messages to read by reading
the subject lines. Such people won't even know you sent a message on a
different subject.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: lauracornwell
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 1:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] kindle and nvda


Hey there,
I hope that everyone's day is well mine started off great but because of
a
friend whose PC got formatted buy someone who was using the same NVdA
remote key that he was he is the second person that I know that this
kind
of thing hashappend to I am wanting to find out is is there a Remote
Dev
on this list who will please get back with me this is a crime what this
person did and I want to see something done.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Isige
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] kindle and nvda

See NVDA user guide, Sec. 10.8.


On 10/18/2017 12:54, erik burggraaf wrote:

Hello all, I have been reading up on the Kindle for PC app from
Amazon. It is supposed to have special functions that work
specifically with nvda, but I cannot find any documentation other than
the fact that they exist.

The following two links are the best documentation I have been able to
find Colon

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=202124070

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246000

I am not seeing how to move by characters words mines and sentences.
I am also not clear on how to use special nvda features like the
ability to look up words within a Kindle ebook.

It any direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and regards,
Eric



Sent from Mail for Windows 10








--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613.
email id : aravind_069@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com.


Re: the volume on the creators update is softer

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I tried those instructions but I think I'll call microsoft tomorrow morning.
I don't want to have to turn up the speakers halfaw to hear what I'm doing.

Thanks for trying to help though.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy
Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer

press the windows key then type sound. you may have to arrow down to find
just sound. press enter. In the box that pops up highlite your defualt sound
device. It will say default after it. Now tab to properties. now ctrl + tab
to effects or enhancements. then tab to the checkbox that says disable
all...You may have to look around in here a little as each manufacturer is a
little different.
On 10/18/2017 4:45 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I don't know how to disable these enhancements. I might have to get
sighted help in doing it.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Blee Blat
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer

I haven't noticed that, but I did have to fiddle with the audio
drivers quite a bit. It seems that the chipset in this laptop has some
idiotic codecs that get loaded and do weird stuff to the sound, so I
had to disable them. There were driver updates in the creator's update
though. Make sure your enhancements or stuff like that didn't get
re-enabled when you updated.
Sometimes that happens.






Re: the volume on the creators update is softer

Gene
 

You have to open properties after you tab to it.  Press the space bar if it's a button. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer

press the windows key then type sound. you may have to arrow down to
find just sound. press enter. In the box that pops up highlite your
defualt sound device. It will say default after it. Now tab to
properties. now ctrl + tab to effects or enhancements. then tab to the
checkbox that says disable all...You may have to look around in here a
little as each manufacturer is a little different.
On 10/18/2017 4:45 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
> I don't know how to disable these enhancements. I might have to get sighted
> help in doing it.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Blee
> Blat
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:14 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer
>
>       I haven't noticed that, but I did have to fiddle with the audio drivers
> quite a bit. It seems that the chipset in this laptop has some idiotic
> codecs that get loaded and do weird stuff to the sound, so I had to disable
> them. There were driver updates in the creator's update though. Make sure
> your enhancements or stuff like that didn't get re-enabled when you updated.
> Sometimes that happens.
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: Accessing toolbars in Firefox.

John Isige
 

Sorry, that doesn't help. I don't mean making the toolbar appear on the screen. I mean being able to get from a document to the toolbar so I can move through the buttons on the toolbar and activate something, and then get back into the document.

On 10/18/2017 19:52, Robert Mendoza wrote:
To access the Toolbar in Firefox press Alt V for view, in the menu bar where the toolbar is located.

Robert Mendoza

On 10/19/2017 8:41 AM, John Isige wrote:
Hey all. I swear there's a way to do this, but I can't remember it and I can't find it, either in the NVDA user guide or via google.


How do you access toolbars in Firefox? With object navigation I can sort of get to one, but I only see a couple of buttons, e.g. "scribefire", which is something like 25 of 37. I can't see how to get to the rest of the buttons even with object nav, just the three or four that show up. I swear there was some sort of key you hit that toggled you into the toolbar so you could move through it and another way to move between them. Or maybe I'm thinking of something else or just hallucinating. Wouldn't surprise me, everybody else gets unicorns and dinosaurs and pink elephants and stuff, and I get access keys!





Re: Accessing toolbars in Firefox.

Robert Mendoza
 

To access the Toolbar in Firefox press Alt V for view, in the menu bar where the toolbar is located.

Robert Mendoza

On 10/19/2017 8:41 AM, John Isige wrote:
Hey all. I swear there's a way to do this, but I can't remember it and I can't find it, either in the NVDA user guide or via google.


How do you access toolbars in Firefox? With object navigation I can sort of get to one, but I only see a couple of buttons, e.g. "scribefire", which is something like 25 of 37. I can't see how to get to the rest of the buttons even with object nav, just the three or four that show up. I swear there was some sort of key you hit that toggled you into the toolbar so you could move through it and another way to move between them. Or maybe I'm thinking of something else or just hallucinating. Wouldn't surprise me, everybody else gets unicorns and dinosaurs and pink elephants and stuff, and I get access keys!



Accessing toolbars in Firefox.

John Isige
 

Hey all. I swear there's a way to do this, but I can't remember it and I can't find it, either in the NVDA user guide or via google.


How do you access toolbars in Firefox? With object navigation I can sort of get to one, but I only see a couple of buttons, e.g. "scribefire", which is something like 25 of 37. I can't see how to get to the rest of the buttons even with object nav, just the three or four that show up. I swear there was some sort of key you hit that toggled you into the toolbar so you could move through it and another way to move between them. Or maybe I'm thinking of something else or just hallucinating. Wouldn't surprise me, everybody else gets unicorns and dinosaurs and pink elephants and stuff, and I get access keys!


Re: can't get the dictation sound

Quentin Christensen
 

You also need to be using US English.  Using UK English or any other English won't work.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 7:09 AM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
Have to make sure that your microphone is enabled

On 10/18/2017 1:18 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,

I wanted to try to dictate a message but when I hit windows H, I didn't get the dictation sound. I just got the new fall creators update and would like to try dictating messages. How do I get the sound?

Thanks for your help in advance.

Rosemarie









--
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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: the volume on the creators update is softer

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

press the windows key then type sound. you may have to arrow down to find just sound. press enter. In the box that pops up highlite your defualt sound device. It will say default after it. Now tab to properties. now ctrl + tab to effects or enhancements. then tab to the checkbox that says disable all...You may have to look around in here a little as each manufacturer is a little different.

On 10/18/2017 4:45 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I don't know how to disable these enhancements. I might have to get sighted
help in doing it.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Blee
Blat
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer

I haven't noticed that, but I did have to fiddle with the audio drivers
quite a bit. It seems that the chipset in this laptop has some idiotic
codecs that get loaded and do weird stuff to the sound, so I had to disable
them. There were driver updates in the creator's update though. Make sure
your enhancements or stuff like that didn't get re-enabled when you updated.
Sometimes that happens.





Re: the volume on the creators update is softer

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I don't know how to disable these enhancements. I might have to get sighted
help in doing it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Blee
Blat
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer

    I haven't noticed that, but I did have to fiddle with the audio drivers
quite a bit. It seems that the chipset in this laptop has some idiotic
codecs that get loaded and do weird stuff to the sound, so I had to disable
them. There were driver updates in the creator's update though. Make sure
your enhancements or stuff like that didn't get re-enabled when you updated.
Sometimes that happens.


Re: the volume on the creators update is softer

Blee Blat <bleeblat@...>
 

I haven't noticed that, but I did have to fiddle with the audio drivers quite a bit. It seems that the chipset in this laptop has some idiotic codecs that get loaded and do weird stuff to the sound, so I had to disable them. There were driver updates in the creator's update though. Make sure your enhancements or stuff like that didn't get re-enabled when you updated. Sometimes that happens.