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Re: dictation in Windows 10 Fall Creator's version

Dan Beaver
 

Hi,


Just thought I would mention that if you use the windows+h keys to start the dictation you can also hit any key when done speaking and it will drop out of dictation mode.  We do not have to wait for the dictation service to realize we are done.


Dan Beaver


Re: the volume on the creators update is softer

Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@...>
 

the only way i found to disable dell audio is to uninstall the driver
and let Microsoft use the generic driver

On 10/19/17, jazzyjennifer <jwens2000@gmail.com> wrote:
thats odd, my nvda volume and speackers are at 100 percent, and mine
isnt softer, thats weird,


On 10/18/2017 7:01 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

I don't know if it's just me or if the volume in the creators update
is softer now. Have any of you noticed that? Everything (speakders and
NVDA volume) is set to 100 percent. I was just wondering about the
softness of the new update.

Rosemarie

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Re: the volume on the creators update is softer

jazzyjennifer
 

thats odd, my nvda volume and speackers are at 100 percent, and mine isnt softer, thats weird,


On 10/18/2017 7:01 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I don't know if it's just me or if the volume in the creators update is softer now. Have any of you noticed that? Everything (speakders and NVDA volume) is set to 100 percent. I was just wondering about the softness of the new update.

 

Rosemarie



Re: the volume on the creators update is softer

 

Well it will and you need to use sightling help to clear it from its control panel, is del audio that bad, I tried with sightling help for hp but found it like listening to a small box and it didn't sound to good.

The audio from the screen reader some sounds fade in and out a little but speech is not effected and in fact it seems to improve it on the hp so I thought hell just leave it.

On 19/10/2017 8:34 p.m., Brian Moore wrote:
Well, on my one laptop so far where I have installed the release of 1709, dell audio came back from whatever section of hell it came from.  I got this off once before but it really needs to go. I have another system which is much the same.


Anyone know how to kill dell audio?  it is horid and makes speech pretty awful.


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On 10/19/2017 1:00 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
The latest driver is still 2.82, I had this driver before the update I am unsure what was installed on both units I have but its not been updated since february this year.




On 19/10/2017 3:50 p.m., Austin Pinto wrote:
for all who have audio problems. just try going to the realtech
website and get the latest driver see if it solves it.

On 10/19/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't have a laptop but apparently you can't disable enhancements on this
desktop either so I guess I'm stuck with it. Thanks for trying to help
though. I'll call Microsoft tomorrow and see if they can figure it out. I
sure can't.



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Blat
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 6:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer

And if you are unlucky enough to have one of these laptops with DTS linked
to the realtek audio manager, and no way to disable the "enhancements", then
you're stuck going into task manager and finding the startup tab and
disabling the realtek audio from there. At least that's what I ended up
doing. Plus, to make things worse, Windows onboard sound often defaults to
48000 hz for playback and recording, and that results in pops and crackles
for most sounds, because they're expecting 44100 hz. Now to go looking for a
portable sound card that also connects to the phone. I don't know why
manufacturers think I want my music screwed with. If I want all this
compression and stuff I can find an FM radio easily enough.











Re: setting windows media player as my default player in the creator update

Chris
 

Its in settings > Apps > default apps

 

Or you could just type”default” in search

 

 


Re: can't get the dictation sound

Chris
 

Agreed, but its correct works in US English but not UK English

 

How silly is that???

 

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: [nvda] can't get the dictation sound

 

Well that is a bit stupid.

Brian

 

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Subject: Re: [nvda] can't get the dictation sound

 

 

> You also need to be using US English.  Using UK English or any other

> English won't work.

> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 7:09 AM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

>> Have to make sure that your microphone is enabled

>> 

>> On 10/18/2017 1:18 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

>> 

>>> Hi, everyone,

>>> 

>>> I wanted to try to dictate a message but when I hit windows H, I didn't

>>> get the dictation sound. I just got the new fall creators update and

>>> would

>>> like to try dictating messages. How do I get the sound?

>>> 

>>> Thanks for your help in advance.

>>> 

>>> Rosemarie

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

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Re: Sumatra PDF Reader, was: Re: [nvda] The In-Process "Choose-your-own-adventure" edition of In-Process!

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I have a feeling that they won't support xp, and indeed now don't support amd either I gather on xp.
The issues are much the same as why nvda had to drop them. they need to make the best code and that means using the core of windows that the tools they build the software with uses, normally those in currently supported versions of windows.

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Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 5:49 AM
Subject: Re: Sumatra PDF Reader, was: Re: [nvda] The In-Process "Choose-your-own-adventure" edition of In-Process!


hi.
yes, i realy dont trust adobe products and never use them!
sumatra is the best program, most simple, without complex settings,
less than 5 mb, translated to many languages, very simple and fast.
i realy only accept this program and there is no alternative program
for sumatra in world of technology!
i realy wish that when sumatra supports accessibility, continues to
support xp too!
Allah bless you and i sincerely always appreciate your kindness.

On 10/19/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Zahra,

Thank you, I'm glad you liked the post!

There are a few PDF readers around, but for some reason many are
inaccessible. Does Sumatra do many things that Adobe Reader doesn't do?

Regards

Quentin.


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hi quentin, your post was great!
can you contact developers of sumatra pdf reader and help them to make
there program accessible for screen reader users?
Allah bless you and his infinite mercy i pray for you every day.

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https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-choose-your-own-
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Re: Sumatra PDF Reader, was: Re: [nvda] The In-Process "Choose-your-own-adventure" edition of In-Process!

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One of the basic problems in my view is that even when used, most people making pdfs never tag them for reading order when it changes its number of columns or reorders pages to print order.
Others admit to me that they just use a printer driver that makes pdfs from the printer output, and hence they have no control at all. I do use the pdf reader from webbie, but that only allows text content to be read assuming everything is the same all through the file.

PDFs are a known bad practice aspect here in the UK and I notice that were organisations are clued in they normally make word 97 doc versions available as well, though even those if the author uses text boxes and hideously large tables can be awful to read for us.
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Subject: Sumatra PDF Reader, was: Re: [nvda] The In-Process "Choose-your-own-adventure" edition of In-Process!


Hi Zahra,

Thank you, I'm glad you liked the post!

There are a few PDF readers around, but for some reason many are
inaccessible. Does Sumatra do many things that Adobe Reader doesn't do?

Regards

Quentin.


On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 1:47 PM, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:

hi quentin, your post was great!
can you contact developers of sumatra pdf reader and help them to make
there program accessible for screen reader users?
Allah bless you and his infinite mercy i pray for you every day.

On 10/19/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Here's a fun Thursday read, it's the NV Access
"Choose-your-own-adventure"
edition of In-Process! Giants, Caves, mountains and even BACON!
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-choose-your-own-
adventure-edition/

I hope you enjoy reading it as much as I enjoyed putting it together!

Regards

Quentin.

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Re: the volume on the creators update is softer

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Amen to that. its the same with these silly drivers that cut off the end of nvda speech, like what is the reasoning?
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Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer


And if you are unlucky enough to have one of these laptops with DTS linked to the realtek audio manager, and no way to disable the "enhancements", then you're stuck going into task manager and finding the startup tab and disabling the realtek audio from there. At least that's what I ended up doing. Plus, to make things worse, Windows onboard sound often defaults to 48000 hz for playback and recording, and that results in pops and crackles for most sounds, because they're expecting 44100 hz. Now to go looking for a portable sound card that also connects to the phone. I don't know why manufacturers think I want my music screwed with. If I want all this compression and stuff I can find an FM radio easily enough.


Re: can't get the dictation sound

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Well that is a bit stupid.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] can't get the dictation sound


You also need to be using US English. Using UK English or any other
English won't work.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 7:09 AM, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:

Have to make sure that your microphone is enabled

On 10/18/2017 1:18 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

I wanted to try to dictate a message but when I hit windows H, I didn't
get the dictation sound. I just got the new fall creators update and would
like to try dictating messages. How do I get the sound?

Thanks for your help in advance.

Rosemarie





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Re: can't get the dictation sound

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Really? I would have thought that any audio input being life should be catered for in some dialogue somewhere If I were using 10 I'd want it to work from my audio mixer line out.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] can't get the dictation sound


Have to make sure that your microphone is enabled

On 10/18/2017 1:18 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,

I wanted to try to dictate a message but when I hit windows H, I didn't get the dictation sound. I just got the new fall creators update and would like to try dictating messages. How do I get the sound?

Thanks for your help in advance.

Rosemarie



Re: where does NVDA support OS system API MSAA

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You might also approach Jonathon Mosen, as I see he promotes this software for his tutorials and webinars, and it might suit him if he could get it to work as it apparently does in Jaws.
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Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] where does NVDA support OS system API MSAA


Hi,
In short, accessibility API's are a way for programs and screen readers to cooperate and communicate accurate info about controls, what's happening and what not. In case of Microsoft Active Accessibility or IAccessible, it usually refers to exposing correct info about a control for screen readers and raising appropriate events. By default, NVDA will not automatically announce when something happens on screen unless NVDA is told to keep an eye on events that programs raise.
Regarding the program in question: I advise contacting NV Access and see if they can take a look at it for a fee, or if a free version or a demo can be downloaded, let one of us take a look at it and provide recommendations (unfortunately, due to various commitments, I won't be able to do that at this time).
Cheers,
joseph

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Subject: Re: [nvda] where does NVDA support OS system API MSAA

Shouldn't it just work? It's using MSAA and NVDA supports that. I thought the whole point of MSAA is that things get exposed to screen readers. I have no idea what the Zoom meeting thingy is so I can't really help beyond that, but my understanding was that MSAA just exposes things to screen readers and such. But yeah, the dev list would probably be a better place for this, unless somebody from there participates here and can tackle it.


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You really need to raise this as an issue in github so the devs will
see it, and also try to get a good argument for writing the app
module, or alternatively, put it on the add ons list and suggest an
add on is created for it if the resources are in nvda to achieve it.
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Subject: [nvda] where does NVDA support OS system API MSAA


I ask this question because I'm wondering what it would take for NVDA
to work with the zoom meeting platform, and receive notifications
from it, as other screen readers do.

The information I was able to get from zoom is the following, and
will hopefully be of help for anyone who could take advantage of this
info...


"Zoom client in Windows uses OS system API MSAA to support screen
reader. The SPEC is described here:
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd317990(v=v
s.85).aspx In particular details, Zoom client calls the MSAA API
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd373603(v=v
s.85).aspx to notify system to inform the screen reader to speak."
Thanks!






Re: dictation on the fly windows key plus h

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I have a feeling both of these items are ports over from the cloud services often encountered in smart phones, certainly I believe the seeing AI app available in the US uses the read text part that you describe here. I personally feel that as there has been a history of Microsoft changing such things when they first appear it might be prudent to wait for it to be stable. I'm not totally sure if this sort of service will r3emain free either.
as for nvda not saying anything till its finished. This would need somebody to find out how the program indicates start and end of dictation or how would it know when to fall back to normal?

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Subject: [nvda] dictation on the fly windows key plus h


in the new windows 10 update, you can dictate text on demand and use
some basic dictation commands. you do this by hitting windows key plus
h. before dictating, a sound is played. when you are done dictating, the
computer senses you are done and then you hear the new stop dictating
sound effect. there is a problem though. while dictating, NVDA tries to
echo what is typed as you dictate. I installed dictation bridge, no
change. It would be far better if NVDA would wait until the dictation
was finnished, and then speak what was just dictated. Seems like
dictation bridge does not support this new form of windows dictation.
Could someone on the list please maybe fix this issue with an addon?
thanks.

I tested out this new form of dictation, and even without training, it
works very very good. so you can just dictate on the fly. also the
narrator feature of describing any image or graphic works good, wish
this also were implemented into NVDA.

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Re: the volume on the creators update is softer

Brian Moore
 

Well, on my one laptop so far where I have installed the release of 1709, dell audio came back from whatever section of hell it came from.  I got this off once before but it really needs to go. I have another system which is much the same.


Anyone know how to kill dell audio?  it is horid and makes speech pretty awful.


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On 10/19/2017 1:00 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
The latest driver is still 2.82, I had this driver before the update I am unsure what was installed on both units I have but its not been updated since february this year.




On 19/10/2017 3:50 p.m., Austin Pinto wrote:
for all who have audio problems. just try going to the realtech
website and get the latest driver see if it solves it.

On 10/19/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't have a laptop but apparently you can't disable enhancements on this
desktop either so I guess I'm stuck with it. Thanks for trying to help
though. I'll call Microsoft tomorrow and see if they can figure it out. I
sure can't.



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Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 6:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer

And if you are unlucky enough to have one of these laptops with DTS linked
to the realtek audio manager, and no way to disable the "enhancements", then
you're stuck going into task manager and finding the startup tab and
disabling the realtek audio from there. At least that's what I ended up
doing. Plus, to make things worse, Windows onboard sound often defaults to
48000 hz for playback and recording, and that results in pops and crackles
for most sounds, because they're expecting 44100 hz. Now to go looking for a
portable sound card that also connects to the phone. I don't know why
manufacturers think I want my music screwed with. If I want all this
compression and stuff I can find an FM radio easily enough.








Re: The In-Process "Choose-your-own-adventure" edition of In-Process!

Gary Bowers
 

Thanks, Quentin. This is great.

Gary B

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Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 8:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] The In-Process "Choose-your-own-adventure" edition of In-Process!

Here's a fun Thursday read, it's the NV Access "Choose-your-own-adventure" edition of In-Process! Giants, Caves, mountains and even BACON! https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-choose-your-own-adventure-edition/

I hope you enjoy reading it as much as I enjoyed putting it together!

Regards

Quentin.


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Re: the volume on the creators update is softer

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How much would it cost for a machine of this magnitude?
Thanks.



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 11:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer

Yeah a lot of the laptops now use their own overlays on the
realtech drivers the hp uses something called dts this makes
speech semi suck but I tried without the realtech device and the
sound speakers are so small its like listening to it from a box.

The hp dts at least sounds nice and spacial audio set to sonic
will push up volumes a little to.

On my new gegabyte system I am planning to get they have creative
overlays sadly on my external soundcard these make speech a bit
choppy but music, sfx and games really rock so I will forgive
that.




On 19/10/2017 4:22 p.m., Blee Blat wrote:
And even if you do that it's still not likely to work. They
must be
using some on-chip codecs because I'm still getting dynamic
compression applied. It's less worse than it was with the
realtek
services running, but it's still noticeable. This is not
helpful for
most sounds at all. I wonder what the hit for CPU performance
is for
this nonsense. I'll continue screwing around with drivers until
I find
a fix I guess. The phone doesn't have these artifacts, so at
least I
can just use that.




.


Re: the volume on the creators update is softer

 

You can turn off dts with sighted help but I'd honestly wouldn't turn it off, the speech is not to bad but the sound sort of sucks without dts I actually like dts better than sps premium or the waves max on del that really sucks, dts is not to bad.

On 19/10/2017 2:51 p.m., Blee Blat wrote:
And if you are unlucky enough to have one of these laptops with DTS linked to the realtek audio manager, and no way to disable the "enhancements", then you're stuck going into task manager and finding the startup tab and disabling the realtek audio from there. At least that's what I ended up doing. Plus, to make things worse, Windows onboard sound often defaults to 48000 hz for playback and recording, and that results in pops and crackles for most sounds, because they're expecting 44100 hz. Now to go looking for a portable sound card that also connects to the phone. I don't know why manufacturers think I want my music screwed with. If I want all this compression and stuff I can find an FM radio easily enough.


.


Re: the volume on the creators update is softer

 

Yeah a lot of the laptops now use their own overlays on the realtech drivers the hp uses something called dts this makes speech semi suck but I tried without the realtech device and the sound speakers are so small its like listening to it from a box.

The hp dts at least sounds nice and spacial audio set to sonic will push up volumes a little to.

On my new gegabyte system I am planning to get they have creative overlays sadly on my external soundcard these make speech a bit choppy but music, sfx and games really rock so I will forgive that.

On 19/10/2017 4:22 p.m., Blee Blat wrote:
And even if you do that it's still not likely to work. They must be using some on-chip codecs because I'm still getting dynamic compression applied. It's less worse than it was with the realtek services running, but it's still noticeable. This is not helpful for most sounds at all. I wonder what the hit for CPU performance is for this nonsense. I'll continue screwing around with drivers until I find a fix I guess. The phone doesn't have these artifacts, so at least I can just use that.



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Re: the volume on the creators update is softer

 

well actually july not february.

Chances are that your effects are on also volumes and such are defaulted, a smattering of privacy settings file associations players, etc are defaulted and I needed to reinstall the klite mega codec pack and set things to how I wanted it codec wise.

Also 7zip was set with all extentions to only work on my account that I updated windows with and I had to set it to all things like that.

On 19/10/2017 3:50 p.m., Austin Pinto wrote:
for all who have audio problems. just try going to the realtech
website and get the latest driver see if it solves it.

On 10/19/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't have a laptop but apparently you can't disable enhancements on this
desktop either so I guess I'm stuck with it. Thanks for trying to help
though. I'll call Microsoft tomorrow and see if they can figure it out. I
sure can't.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Blee
Blat
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 6:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer

And if you are unlucky enough to have one of these laptops with DTS linked
to the realtek audio manager, and no way to disable the "enhancements", then
you're stuck going into task manager and finding the startup tab and
disabling the realtek audio from there. At least that's what I ended up
doing. Plus, to make things worse, Windows onboard sound often defaults to
48000 hz for playback and recording, and that results in pops and crackles
for most sounds, because they're expecting 44100 hz. Now to go looking for a
portable sound card that also connects to the phone. I don't know why
manufacturers think I want my music screwed with. If I want all this
compression and stuff I can find an FM radio easily enough.







Re: the volume on the creators update is softer

 

The latest driver is still 2.82, I had this driver before the update I am unsure what was installed on both units I have but its not been updated since february this year.

On 19/10/2017 3:50 p.m., Austin Pinto wrote:
for all who have audio problems. just try going to the realtech
website and get the latest driver see if it solves it.

On 10/19/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't have a laptop but apparently you can't disable enhancements on this
desktop either so I guess I'm stuck with it. Thanks for trying to help
though. I'll call Microsoft tomorrow and see if they can figure it out. I
sure can't.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Blee
Blat
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 6:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer

And if you are unlucky enough to have one of these laptops with DTS linked
to the realtek audio manager, and no way to disable the "enhancements", then
you're stuck going into task manager and finding the startup tab and
disabling the realtek audio from there. At least that's what I ended up
doing. Plus, to make things worse, Windows onboard sound often defaults to
48000 hz for playback and recording, and that results in pops and crackles
for most sounds, because they're expecting 44100 hz. Now to go looking for a
portable sound card that also connects to the phone. I don't know why
manufacturers think I want my music screwed with. If I want all this
compression and stuff I can find an FM radio easily enough.