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Re: Some suggest for future nvda

Sarah k Alawami
 

I agree. The menu suggested was jut plane confusing. The way they have it now is more natural feeling.

Take care

On Oct 23, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

I like the NVDA menu the way it is. Like the old saying goes, if it ain't
broke, don't fix it.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alexander Masic
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 1:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Some suggest for future nvda

Hi.

Now When Jamie has change to another work, I hope there will be some space
for new thinking and redesign. Even if i really like nvda very mutch, and
you devs are doing a fantastic good jobb in general. However there is a few
things wich iritate my mutch. And most imprtant is how the menu-system are
organised. I would like to se menu scructure organized in fleaks wich i can
toggle betwean by arrow-keys. If i made an reinstallation of NVDA then I am
able to made all settings at once. 
As it is today, you must do the settings in a one section, then press ok,
opend menu again and go to next and so on. This is a little old fasion.

So I hope that new leadership for nvda will also bring some new thinking. I
am also glad to se that older windows longer will not be supported. Because
this older windows is virusmashin, and by supporting them, NVDA is also
encurage spread of virus.

So i'll wish the new leader good luck, and looking forward to se little new
way thinking.








Re: safe mode

Adriani Botez
 

Here is a file which changes your registry in the way that sound driver is kept on in safe mode. It works in windows 10 and I have tested it in Windows 7 x86 and it works as well. There is also a discussion in this forum about it, it was some days ago. Several people tested it and in works.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebkqst6n393i6jk/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=1

 

Best

Adriani

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Sarah k Alawami
Gesendet: Montag, 23. Oktober 2017 19:31
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] safe mode

 

No. And it will never work. No audo drivers can be loaded only display drivers.

 

Take care



On Oct 23, 2017, at 3:39 AM, Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...> wrote:

 

Does NVDA, narrator or jaws works in safe mode? Can not delete avast and the only way to uninstall it is by going to safe mode.



Holger Fiallo

 


Re: Presenting PPTX with viewer

 

hello.
i heard that word viewer is not accessible, not sure about office viewers.
hope that help, God bless you all.

On 10/22/17, Michal Rada <michal@michalrada.cz> wrote:
Hi there, Please, is any way to accessible present PPTX presentation in
Powerpoint viewer? I present many presentations and now i will do it in
W10 virtual machne thats not Office installed. I downůoaded Powerpoint
viewer from MS site and surprised, in vieweer NVDA reads "Presentation
slide" only. In full powered powerpoint it works good.

M




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Re: Some suggest for future nvda

 

i love everything that i have and i am grateful to Allah for his bounties.
i love my windows version, nvda, my softwares which are all 32bit and
the way that i use internet and computer!
God bless you all!

On 10/23/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I like the NVDA menu the way it is. Like the old saying goes, if it ain't
broke, don't fix it.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alexander Masic
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 1:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Some suggest for future nvda

Hi.

Now When Jamie has change to another work, I hope there will be some space
for new thinking and redesign. Even if i really like nvda very mutch, and
you devs are doing a fantastic good jobb in general. However there is a few
things wich iritate my mutch. And most imprtant is how the menu-system are
organised. I would like to se menu scructure organized in fleaks wich i can
toggle betwean by arrow-keys. If i made an reinstallation of NVDA then I am
able to made all settings at once.
As it is today, you must do the settings in a one section, then press ok,
opend menu again and go to next and so on. This is a little old fasion.

So I hope that new leadership for nvda will also bring some new thinking. I
am also glad to se that older windows longer will not be supported. Because
this older windows is virusmashin, and by supporting them, NVDA is also
encurage spread of virus.

So i'll wish the new leader good luck, and looking forward to se little new
way thinking.








--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: Some suggest for future nvda

Adriani Botez
 

I would never change the menu structure of NVDA since you can open certain
areas for settings for example ctrl+nvda+d for document formatting or
ctrl+nvda+s for synthesizer settings. This is possible because a separate
structure for certain group of settings is given. The advantage is that you
don't have to search one hour to find the settings you would like to change.

However, I would make it even easier by enhancing the settings ring. With
ctrl+shift+nvda+arrow keys you can change several settings without having to
access the menu. In my view this should be the priority in the future,
because in fact I want to change settings without changing the window I am
currently working in. For example if I am in a browser and access the menu,
the cursor position gets often lost and I have to find my position again
after closing the menu. By adding new settings features to the ring would
solve this problem. For example it would help a lot if we could change the
keyboard layout out of the ring instead going into the menu. An other useful
feature would be to integrate document formatting to the ring as well.

Why document formatting in the ring? Well, often people want to hear just
one formatting feature, for example colors or font. It would be much
intuitive to change between formating elements out of the ring and to go to
the menu just when you need more information at the same time.

Another nice ring feature would be to change colors. Say we have an excel
sheet and we are told to type something just in the yellow cells. Assume we
have in the ring a cathegory "say color". You could change say color to
yellow out of the ring and in the menu you could atrubute a key to the
browse mode (for example y) to jump between yellow cells. You could let y to
be the standard key for every color you choose from the "say color"
cathegory. If you want NVDA to say all colors, than you go through the ring
to document formatting and change to colors. In that case NVDA would say all
colors and y would still navigate you through the color which you chose in
the "say color" section of the ring.

This could also work for other formatting features like type (areal, time
new roman etc) or font (bold, italic etc.). This could also work in word,
outlook or even in browsers and it would improve NVDA significantly.


Best
Adriani

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von
Rosemarie Chavarria
Gesendet: Montag, 23. Oktober 2017 19:40
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Some suggest for future nvda

I like the NVDA menu the way it is. Like the old saying goes, if it ain't
broke, don't fix it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alexander Masic
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 1:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Some suggest for future nvda

Hi.

Now When Jamie has change to another work, I hope there will be some space
for new thinking and redesign. Even if i really like nvda very mutch, and
you devs are doing a fantastic good jobb in general. However there is a few
things wich iritate my mutch. And most imprtant is how the menu-system are
organised. I would like to se menu scructure organized in fleaks wich i can
toggle betwean by arrow-keys. If i made an reinstallation of NVDA then I am
able to made all settings at once.
As it is today, you must do the settings in a one section, then press ok,
opend menu again and go to next and so on. This is a little old fasion.

So I hope that new leadership for nvda will also bring some new thinking. I
am also glad to se that older windows longer will not be supported. Because
this older windows is virusmashin, and by supporting them, NVDA is also
encurage spread of virus.

So i'll wish the new leader good luck, and looking forward to se little new
way thinking.


Re: Some suggest for future nvda

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I like the NVDA menu the way it is. Like the old saying goes, if it ain't
broke, don't fix it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alexander Masic
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 1:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Some suggest for future nvda

Hi.

Now When Jamie has change to another work, I hope there will be some space
for new thinking and redesign. Even if i really like nvda very mutch, and
you devs are doing a fantastic good jobb in general. However there is a few
things wich iritate my mutch. And most imprtant is how the menu-system are
organised. I would like to se menu scructure organized in fleaks wich i can
toggle betwean by arrow-keys. If i made an reinstallation of NVDA then I am
able to made all settings at once.
As it is today, you must do the settings in a one section, then press ok,
opend menu again and go to next and so on. This is a little old fasion.

So I hope that new leadership for nvda will also bring some new thinking. I
am also glad to se that older windows longer will not be supported. Because
this older windows is virusmashin, and by supporting them, NVDA is also
encurage spread of virus.

So i'll wish the new leader good luck, and looking forward to se little new
way thinking.


Re: safe mode

Sarah k Alawami
 

No. And it will never work. No audo drivers can be loaded only display drivers.

Take care

On Oct 23, 2017, at 3:39 AM, Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...> wrote:

Does NVDA, narrator or jaws works in safe mode? Can not delete avast and the only way to uninstall it is by going to safe mode.


Holger Fiallo


Re: NVDA and Windows 10

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I only have to type in my password one time after starting the computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Windows 10

Hi,
Has anyone else noticed after the upgrade that when you start your computer
you have to type in the password twice?
I don't think it is, but is this a problem caused by NVDA?
If not, does anyone know how to fix it?
Thanks
Chris


Re: Some suggest for future nvda

 

Hi,

Back in 2010, VFO faced a similar debate regarding the interface of Settings Center versus old Configuration Manager. The NVDA version in question is being discussed at the following webpage:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/577

 

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 10:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some suggest for future nvda

 

What is being contemplated in terms of changing the NVDA menu?  It would seem to me that the current menu is a better interface than the one described by the questioner because it would be, I think, easier for those who are new to or not too familiar with Windows to understand most easily. 

 

Having a button that would save changes in a submenu, and return you to the main menu might be a good idea.  But multipage dialogs is not a feature people just learning Windows would know and I would think a button such as I'm describing might be easier to explain to such users.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 10:31 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Some suggest for future nvda

 

Hi,
Preferences dialog: someone in Europe is actually working on this as we speak.
Old Windows versions: I am working on mapping out the plan to drop support for old Windows releases (not just words, but in source code). As for viruses and old Windows releases, in some ways, there is some correlation but not much (it is up to users to stay vigilant).
As for new leadership: NV Access is here to stay. One noticeable change is decentralization of the development expertise, with more third-party contributions being integrated.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michal Rada
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 5:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some suggest for future nvda

Hi, there is special addon in which you can set all settings in one place, as Control center in Jaws. You may install it and enjoy it, its cool and verry usefull method of setting all.

Odesláno z iPhonu

23. 10. 2017 v 10:51, Alexander Masic <list@...>:

> Hi.
>
> Now When Jamie has change to another work, I hope there will be some space for new thinking and redesign. Even if i really like nvda very mutch, and you devs are doing a fantastic good jobb in general. However there is a few things wich iritate my mutch. And most imprtant is how the menu-system are organised. I would like to se menu scructure organized in fleaks wich i can toggle betwean by arrow-keys. If i made an reinstallation of NVDA then I am able to made all settings at once. As it is today, you must do the settings in a one section, then press ok, opend menu again and go to next and so on. This is a little old fasion.
>
> So I hope that new leadership for nvda will also bring some new thinking. I am also glad to se that older windows longer will not be supported. Because this older windows is virusmashin, and by supporting them, NVDA is also encurage spread of virus.
>
> So i'll wish the new leader good luck, and looking forward to se little new way thinking.
>
>
>
>
>







Re: Some suggest for future nvda

Gene
 

What is being contemplated in terms of changing the NVDA menu?  It would seem to me that the current menu is a better interface than the one described by the questioner because it would be, I think, easier for those who are new to or not too familiar with Windows to understand most easily. 
 
Having a button that would save changes in a submenu, and return you to the main menu might be a good idea.  But multipage dialogs is not a feature people just learning Windows would know and I would think a button such as I'm describing might be easier to explain to such users.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some suggest for future nvda

Hi,
Preferences dialog: someone in Europe is actually working on this as we speak.
Old Windows versions: I am working on mapping out the plan to drop support for old Windows releases (not just words, but in source code). As for viruses and old Windows releases, in some ways, there is some correlation but not much (it is up to users to stay vigilant).
As for new leadership: NV Access is here to stay. One noticeable change is decentralization of the development expertise, with more third-party contributions being integrated.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michal Rada
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 5:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some suggest for future nvda

Hi, there is special addon in which you can set all settings in one place, as Control center in Jaws. You may install it and enjoy it, its cool and verry usefull method of setting all.

Odesláno z iPhonu

23. 10. 2017 v 10:51, Alexander Masic <list@...>:

> Hi.
>
> Now When Jamie has change to another work, I hope there will be some space for new thinking and redesign. Even if i really like nvda very mutch, and you devs are doing a fantastic good jobb in general. However there is a few things wich iritate my mutch. And most imprtant is how the menu-system are organised. I would like to se menu scructure organized in fleaks wich i can toggle betwean by arrow-keys. If i made an reinstallation of NVDA then I am able to made all settings at once. As it is today, you must do the settings in a one section, then press ok, opend menu again and go to next and so on. This is a little old fasion.
>
> So I hope that new leadership for nvda will also bring some new thinking. I am also glad to se that older windows longer will not be supported. Because this older windows is virusmashin, and by supporting them, NVDA is also encurage spread of virus.
>
> So i'll wish the new leader good luck, and looking forward to se little new way thinking.
>
>
>
>
>








Re: Some suggest for future nvda

Karim Lakhani <karim.lakhani@...>
 

where or how does one accomplish this task?




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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Michal Rada
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some suggest for future nvda

Hi, there is special addon in which you can set all settings in
one place, as Control center in Jaws. You may install it and
enjoy it, its cool and verry usefull method of setting all.

Odesláno z iPhonu

23. 10. 2017 v 10:51, Alexander Masic <list@masic.se>:

Hi.

Now When Jamie has change to another work, I hope there will be
some space for new thinking and redesign. Even if i really like
nvda very mutch, and you devs are doing a fantastic good jobb in
general. However there is a few things wich iritate my mutch. And
most imprtant is how the menu-system are organised. I would like
to se menu scructure organized in fleaks wich i can toggle
betwean by arrow-keys. If i made an reinstallation of NVDA then I
am able to made all settings at once. As it is today, you must do
the settings in a one section, then press ok, opend menu again
and go to next and so on. This is a little old fasion.

So I hope that new leadership for nvda will also bring some new
thinking. I am also glad to se that older windows longer will not
be supported. Because this older windows is virusmashin, and by
supporting them, NVDA is also encurage spread of virus.

So i'll wish the new leader good luck, and looking forward to
se little new way thinking.





Re: Some suggest for future nvda

 

Hi,
Preferences dialog: someone in Europe is actually working on this as we speak.
Old Windows versions: I am working on mapping out the plan to drop support for old Windows releases (not just words, but in source code). As for viruses and old Windows releases, in some ways, there is some correlation but not much (it is up to users to stay vigilant).
As for new leadership: NV Access is here to stay. One noticeable change is decentralization of the development expertise, with more third-party contributions being integrated.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michal Rada
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 5:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some suggest for future nvda

Hi, there is special addon in which you can set all settings in one place, as Control center in Jaws. You may install it and enjoy it, its cool and verry usefull method of setting all.

Odesláno z iPhonu

23. 10. 2017 v 10:51, Alexander Masic <list@masic.se>:

Hi.

Now When Jamie has change to another work, I hope there will be some space for new thinking and redesign. Even if i really like nvda very mutch, and you devs are doing a fantastic good jobb in general. However there is a few things wich iritate my mutch. And most imprtant is how the menu-system are organised. I would like to se menu scructure organized in fleaks wich i can toggle betwean by arrow-keys. If i made an reinstallation of NVDA then I am able to made all settings at once. As it is today, you must do the settings in a one section, then press ok, opend menu again and go to next and so on. This is a little old fasion.

So I hope that new leadership for nvda will also bring some new thinking. I am also glad to se that older windows longer will not be supported. Because this older windows is virusmashin, and by supporting them, NVDA is also encurage spread of virus.

So i'll wish the new leader good luck, and looking forward to se little new way thinking.





NVDA and Windows 10

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Hi,
Has anyone else noticed after the upgrade that when you start your computer you have to type in the password twice?
I don't think it is, but is this a problem caused by NVDA?
If not, does anyone know how to fix it?
Thanks
Chris


Re: safe mode

Don H
 

Window Eyes would run in safe mode but I think they were the only one that would.

On 10/23/2017 5:39 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote:
Does NVDA, narrator or jaws works in safe mode? Can not delete avast and the only way to uninstall it is by going to safe mode.
Holger Fiallo


Re: Ribbon remover.

 

ah, right! Below is the download page. I was sending the blog page by mistake.

https://winaero.com/download.php?view.18


Re: Some suggest for future nvda

Michal Rada
 

Hi, there is special addon in which you can set all settings in one place, as Control center in Jaws. You may install it and enjoy it, its cool and verry usefull method of setting all.

Odesláno z iPhonu

23. 10. 2017 v 10:51, Alexander Masic <list@masic.se>:

Hi.

Now When Jamie has change to another work, I hope there will be some space for new thinking and redesign. Even if i really like nvda very mutch, and you devs are doing a fantastic good jobb in general. However there is a few things wich iritate my mutch. And most imprtant is how the menu-system are organised. I would like to se menu scructure organized in fleaks wich i can toggle betwean by arrow-keys. If i made an reinstallation of NVDA then I am able to made all settings at once. As it is today, you must do the settings in a one section, then press ok, opend menu again and go to next and so on. This is a little old fasion.

So I hope that new leadership for nvda will also bring some new thinking. I am also glad to se that older windows longer will not be supported. Because this older windows is virusmashin, and by supporting them, NVDA is also encurage spread of virus.

So i'll wish the new leader good luck, and looking forward to se little new way thinking.





Re: dictation bridge error

Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...>
 

Hi,
 
Yes, I am using wsr.  I am using the latest windows and nvda.  I installed db using the anouncment e mail that was sent out.  Thanks for any help.
 

From: Pranav Lal
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 8:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dictation bridge error
 

Hi Garry,

 

I am one of the people on the dictationBridge team. You can raise an issue on github at https://github.com/dictationbridge/dictationbridge-nvda/issues

 

  1. Are you using Windows speech-recognition?
  2. What version of windows are you using?
  3. How did you install dictationBridge?

Pranav


read non linked text bug?, was: bug in browsemode

Martin Thomas Swaton
 

Hello again,


any further ideas on that problem or how it could be fixed?

I am happy to assist in any way to get NVDA to read non linked text stable - it really should not skip such blocks randomly.


best regards


Martin




Am 02.10.2017 um 21:27 schrieb Martin Thomas Swaton:

Hi,


I guess I discovered a bug in the behaviour of nvda in the browsemode.

using the shortcut "n" to jump to the next unlinked text on a website does not work correctly when there are special characters in a text line.


steps to reproduce:

e.g. go to m.facebook website -> messages -> friend-name

to open a thread.


in this thread you can jump to the text you and your friend wrote


if you type "*smile*"

or similar on a line

this line will be ignored by "n" and you will jump directly to the next "normal" textline.


This should absolutely not be the case, as you miss normal text because of this bug.


a second problem with "n" is, that not the whole text block is read on this keypress - but the next "n" press jumps to the next block of text and does not read the rest of the current block

because of this second block you always only hear the first line of a textblock when using "n"

so you cannot read a text with this shortcut, you only get the dirst line of every block and then have to use other reading shortcuts to read on, which does not make any sense.


hope this two bugs can be confirmed and hopefully be fixed


cheers

Martin





windows 7/8.1 notifications / alerts, was: thunderbrid notifications

Martin Thomas Swaton
 

Hello everybody,


okay I noticed, that the alerts/notifications I was refering to, are windows ones, not from thunderbird itself.

lately I was on the facebook webpage and was asked if I would like to get notifications in windows for new messages. I activated the function and now get alerts on new messages.


these alerts are the same type like the ones from thunderbird. Windows seems to notify me but I have no idea how to read this notifications.


Can anybody explain how I could read them with nvda?


I searched in the archive and only found results, where the answer was to press the nvda key + a or v - both do not work for me.


As NVDA only says notification without any further content, I would like to be able to get more out of that alert.


Thanks for any hint,

best

Martin



Am 11.10.2017 um 17:07 schrieb Martin Thomas Swaton:

Hi listers,


hopefully someone can help me. I use mozillas  thunderbird for mailing.

(Windows 8.1, 64bit)

when thunderbird wants to tell me something (notifications) nvda says "notification" (or similar, I use german so it may differ in wording)


I would defenitely like to know what the notification is about, but have no idea and could not find anything in the internet, how to read this "notification" that was anounced ...and keeps being anounced


It does not matter  which kind of notification it is - as it seems. I e.g. know that I got a notification because of a server not responding (imap server was not reachable)

but there seem to be other notifications waiting for me to read them :-)


thankful for any idea how to get more information from that notifications.


cheers

Martin



safe mode

Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
 

Does NVDA, narrator or jaws works in safe mode? Can not delete avast and the only way to uninstall it is by going to safe mode.


Holger Fiallo