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Re: NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Once you take the trouble to learn to navigate through ribbons, it actually becomes quite comfortable.  I perswonally find Ribbons a rather neat concept, much neater than menus sometimes, but I am speaking from a programmer's viewpoint.


On 30/10/2017 11:22 AM, Gene wrote:

You don't know that I love the ribbons.  I don't care if a program uses menus or ribbons.  I simply try to convince people to try to understand ribbons because much or most of the dislike of ribbons is based on inadequate or improper instruction or insufficient learning about them. 
 
You seem to have an antiMicrosoft bias and I'm not sure what you are commenting on in my last message on the subject.  Edge is using a very different design.  firefox is significantly changing its design as well.  Why are you singling out Microsoft?  Microsoft is not perfect when it comes to accessibility.  But they are much better than a lot of companies.  All you have to do is consider all the complaining about inaccessible or not properly accessible antimalware programs to get an idea of this. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

And MS. still can't get it right.
I'm not sure if you could explain when moving messages to a folder, use to be alt "M" now it's "V"
I know you love the ribbons but unfortunately even jaws had to put a patch or to removing it.
I'm not sure what the logic is any more.
I guess that is the way of the world now.
 
 
 
 
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 10:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

I would suggest not jumping to what seem like obvious conclusions.  the Edge browser is nothing like the old browsers in terms of how information is presented to screen-readers or how screen-readers extract information.  I don't know if anything could have been done more quickly in terms of achieving accessibility but Microsoft was far ahead in accessibility than Apple for over a decade. 
 
Apple gets all sorts of credit but it did what it did mostly out of necessity.  they were facing the prospect of losing a lot of educational school contracts because there products weren't accessible.  Long before that, Microsoft was doing serious work on accessibility. 
 
\Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

the MS. programs are a joke.
They wait until the  screen readers catch up to technology, and
then decide to make things as sighted friendly they can.
I'm not sure how Apple can produce accessibility and MS. is still
trying.
Did they have a beta tester on the team who used NVDA with Edge?
I'm OK, using old programs because I don't have the desire to
keep trying to stay up there with the latest and best.
 good luck!


 
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Another case of reinventing a wheel that works for one based on
non rolling wheels. Baby and bathwater proverbs come to mind.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 5:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser


Hi,
There is no menu bar in Edge. I know, for many of you, this is a
shocker, as
many of you are used to such things on web browsers. In reality,
there is a
"menu bar", but it is housed in a menu (quite similar to Google
Chrome). To
get there, press Alt+X.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Ron
Canazzi
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

Hi Group,


I normally use Firefox for my default browser.  Because of the
discussion
about Edge, I tried it and it seems to have some promise. Someone
just sent
a bunch of shortcut keys on this list and many are the same as in
Firefox.
I do have a few questions.


The biggest question is: are there any menus where in you can
customize Edge
such as there are in Firefox, Chrome and Internet Explorer?  I
did see the
one shortcut alt + S that is supposed to open the settings
window.  I tried
this and nothing happened.  Is there some setting that I must
change to get
menus to work?


Thanks in advance for any help.


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more on the error message

 

I am also getting this message
nvda_slave.exe - System Error
The program can't start because api-ms-win-core-rtlsupport-l1-2-0.dll graphic 775  is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix this

problem.
OK
what the heck got screwed up here?
thanks
Hank


Re: NVDA and edge

tina sohl <tinabir@...>
 

Thanks for these tips David. I may take a look at edge too.
Original message:

Hi all!
Thanks Pascal!
You can save a web page as a favorite in Edge by pressing:
CTRL+D
And tab to save and press enter.
The easiest way to open the settings and more menu, is to press:
Alt+X
That is easier than finding and entering on it.
Take care, all, and please ask any questions about Edge.
I am using it as my daily browser now.
I really like the reading mode like Firefox has.
If you press:
CTRL+Shift+R
You only get the article you want to read, and all of the junk goes away on the web page.
To get the full page back,
Just press that command again!
It is a toggle!
David Moore
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From: Pascal Lambert <mailto:rambeau68@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 6:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and edge
Many thanks David. You are very kind and always willing to help some of us novices.
Blessings
Pascal
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 5:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and edge
If you want to do anything in Edge that you could do in IE I think you simply press F6 and then go tab to the Settings and more button, press enter on that and then select open page in IE.
David Griffith
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http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/ <http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/>
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From: Gary Metzler <mailto:gmtravel@bellsouth.net>
Sent: 29 October 2017 09:07
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and edge
Hi David,
Is there a command in edge that will let you save a web page like in ie? Thanks for any help.
From: David Moore
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 12:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and edge
Hi Pascal!
I never use RSS, but I will look into that for you!
Great question.
David Moore
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From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 8:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and edge
Hi David,
Please, can one use RSS with Edge? If yes, I would appreciate you describe how.
Thanks
Blessings
Pascal
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 3:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and edge
Hi all!
Edge is almost my daily browser.
With NVDA, it is very snappy for me, and I can navigate complex web pages, just like with Chrome.
I can play videos, use sites like espn.com, stream TV in Edge, and on and on!
Edge is my browser 80 percent of the time with NVDA.
JAWS is another story, but the latest NVDA and Windows 10 1709, fall Creators work very well with Edge.
I would give Edge with NVDA a B + at least!
David Moore
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From: Hareth
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 12:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and edge
Welcome,
I'd say its not bad and its usable for a point.
but its not my daily browser.
On 10/28/17, Chris Shook <chris0309@samobile.net <mailto:chris0309@samobile.net>> wrote:
Thanks Hareth, this will make things a lot easier.
As an aside, how useable is edge at the moment.
Chris









Re: NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

tina sohl <tinabir@...>
 

It's the latest version of windows 10. Cameb out last week.
Original message:

what does 1709 mean?


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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 10:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser
Hi,
I think it might be best to have a conversation offlist about
this, but I'd say try 1709.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Karim Lakhani
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 9:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser
the MS. programs are a joke.
They wait until the screen readers catch up to technology, and
then decide to make things as sighted friendly they can.
I'm not sure how Apple can produce accessibility and MS. is still
trying.
Did they have a beta tester on the team who used NVDA with Edge?
I'm OK, using old programs because I don't have the desire to
keep trying to stay up there with the latest and best.
good luck!


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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 2:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser
Another case of reinventing a wheel that works for one based on
non rolling wheels. Baby and bathwater proverbs come to mind.
Brian
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 5:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

Hi,
There is no menu bar in Edge. I know, for many of you, this is a
shocker, as many of you are used to such things on web browsers.
In reality, there is a "menu bar", but it is housed in a menu
(quite similar to Google Chrome). To get there, press Alt+X.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser
Hi Group,

I normally use Firefox for my default browser. Because of the
discussion about Edge, I tried it and it seems to have some
promise. Someone just sent a bunch of shortcut keys on this list
and many are the same as in Firefox.
I do have a few questions.

The biggest question is: are there any menus where in you can
customize Edge such as there are in Firefox, Chrome and Internet
Explorer? I did see the one shortcut alt + S that is supposed to
open the settings window. I tried this and nothing happened. Is
there some setting that I must change to get menus to work?

Thanks in advance for any help.

--
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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

















Re: NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

Gene
 

You don't know that I love the ribbons.  I don't care if a program uses menus or ribbons.  I simply try to convince people to try to understand ribbons because much or most of the dislike of ribbons is based on inadequate or improper instruction or insufficient learning about them. 
 
You seem to have an antiMicrosoft bias and I'm not sure what you are commenting on in my last message on the subject.  Edge is using a very different design.  firefox is significantly changing its design as well.  Why are you singling out Microsoft?  Microsoft is not perfect when it comes to accessibility.  But they are much better than a lot of companies.  All you have to do is consider all the complaining about inaccessible or not properly accessible antimalware programs to get an idea of this. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

And MS. still can't get it right.
I'm not sure if you could explain when moving messages to a folder, use to be alt "M" now it's "V"
I know you love the ribbons but unfortunately even jaws had to put a patch or to removing it.
I'm not sure what the logic is any more.
I guess that is the way of the world now.
 
 
 
 
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SKYPE: goldenace4
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Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a
reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you
can control is your character.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 10:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

I would suggest not jumping to what seem like obvious conclusions.  the Edge browser is nothing like the old browsers in terms of how information is presented to screen-readers or how screen-readers extract information.  I don't know if anything could have been done more quickly in terms of achieving accessibility but Microsoft was far ahead in accessibility than Apple for over a decade. 
 
Apple gets all sorts of credit but it did what it did mostly out of necessity.  they were facing the prospect of losing a lot of educational school contracts because there products weren't accessible.  Long before that, Microsoft was doing serious work on accessibility. 
 
\Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

the MS. programs are a joke.
They wait until the  screen readers catch up to technology, and
then decide to make things as sighted friendly they can.
I'm not sure how Apple can produce accessibility and MS. is still
trying.
Did they have a beta tester on the team who used NVDA with Edge?
I'm OK, using old programs because I don't have the desire to
keep trying to stay up there with the latest and best.
 good luck!


 
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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 2:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

Another case of reinventing a wheel that works for one based on
non rolling wheels. Baby and bathwater proverbs come to mind.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 5:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser


Hi,
There is no menu bar in Edge. I know, for many of you, this is a
shocker, as
many of you are used to such things on web browsers. In reality,
there is a
"menu bar", but it is housed in a menu (quite similar to Google
Chrome). To
get there, press Alt+X.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Ron
Canazzi
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

Hi Group,


I normally use Firefox for my default browser.  Because of the
discussion
about Edge, I tried it and it seems to have some promise. Someone
just sent
a bunch of shortcut keys on this list and many are the same as in
Firefox.
I do have a few questions.


The biggest question is: are there any menus where in you can
customize Edge
such as there are in Firefox, Chrome and Internet Explorer?  I
did see the
one shortcut alt + S that is supposed to open the settings
window.  I tried
this and nothing happened.  Is there some setting that I must
change to get
menus to work?


Thanks in advance for any help.


--
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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"













NVDA translations: calling for community help

 

Hi,

 

For resident translators: please pass this onto your language communities.

 

Dear NVDA community:

 

I’m Joseph Lee, a code contributor to NVDA screen reader and one of its translators. I’d like to take a moment to talk about a situation that’ll require huge coordination between many members of this community: current state of NVDA translations.

 

One of the reasons why NVDA is so successful is because of work of committed translators. Without their help, NVDA would not have been translated into 52 languages (including our newest family member, Macedonian). Some of us met NVDA because there was somebody (or a group of people) who kept thinking about bringing NVDA to our languages, and some of us became prominent members of the NVDA community through our translation work. For people like me, we forged bonds with NVDA through translations, uniting together to bring equal access to technology despite speaking different tongues and dialects.

 

But just as we’ve made progress in tearing down the linguistic wall, lately we translators found ourselves asking, “what can we do better”. With departure of two long-time translation leaders (one in 2014, the other this year), it became clear that we needed to think about where we are now, what problems we’re facing, and what we can do to continue our march toward equal access to technology across languages. Specifically, after some translators experienced issues with the translation workflow for a couple of weeks and after going through commit logs for various languages, we realized that we began to neglect the very people we are supposed to serve: users and the entire NVDA community, and we needed to seek help from the community in helping us get back on track.

 

The issues we the translators encountered include the following:

 

  • Commitment: we’ve received letters from some people, telling us that they’re willing to translate NVDA into their languages. Some of them did show commitment, while we never heard from some again or haven’t seen what they’re doing. In case of one language, this person thought a person with limited computer skill can translate a screen reader, but the process overwhelmed this person.
  • Lack of updates: several languages (such as Catalonian, Nepali, Afrikaans and what not) weren’t updated in years (in case of Nepali, the translator passed away a few years ago). The translations community tried to contact maintainers of these languages to no avail, even so far as creating a wiki page that lists update status for each language.

 

Thus, on behalf of the translations group, I’d like to request help from the entire NVDA community in resolving translation problems so we can get back on track. Specifically, I would like to call for help for the following:

 

  • Updating neglected languages: the neglected languages are Afrikaans, Amharic, Catalonian, Icelandic, Nepali, Punjabi and others. Please help update these languages.
  • New languages: if you do have the necessary skill to translate NVDA’s user interface and documentation into another language, please do help us spread equal access to technology to more parts of the world through new localizations.
  • Spread the word about translations: just as new and updated languages are important, talking about translations is also important. Please do spread the word about NVDA translations around the world.

 

A personal plea to translators or would-be translators: I want you to take a moment to think about the following: we should not translate NVDA and related materials for fun alone; if we translate NVDA just because it is fund to do so and we think it is an easy process, then our work is nothing. However, if we think our translation benefits not only us but also the entire NVDA community (current and would-be members), and if we’re willing to put our commitment and effort into it, then our work would be better than finest gold out there. I personally hope that, by NVDA 2018.3, the NVDA translation work will thrive to a point where people will volunteer to add new translations and/or update translations instead of us looking for maintainers of neglected translations. We need to get back on track and cannot let our translation work stay in vain anymore, and this time, we do need to work with the entire NVDA community to improve our situation.

 

To the entire NVDA community: NVDA translations is what makes NVDA go global, and this work is just as important as promoting NVDA around the world. Many people around the world can’t speak English, French, Chinese, Spanish and other world languages, and for many, they’re looking for a highway that’ll let them experience the world outside; that highway, for blind people, is computers, and for many of them, a screen reader that SPEAKS their own language. Please help translators get back on track, because without YOUR help, we can do nothing. By the time NVDA 2018.3 is released, I hope to hear a “thank you” note from translators, which is way different from the statements from above. In other words, the fate of NVDA translations depends not only on translators, but also on you all.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: QUESTION

John Isige
 

Sure. Go to the start of the text. Hit nvda-f9. Go to the end of the text. Hit nvda-f10 twice. Go to wherever you want your text pasted and paste it.

On 10/29/2017 21:32, anthony borg wrote:

Hi list

Can somebody explain to me how to select and copy a whole text by using NVDA f9, and NVDA f10 please?

Thanks in advance

Anthony


QUESTION

anthony borg
 

Hi list

Can somebody explain to me how to select and copy a whole text by using NVDA f9, and NVDA f10 please?

Thanks in advance

Anthony


Re: NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

Karim Lakhani <karim.lakhani@...>
 

I got it I guess just reading the message as it was used, didn't
click.
Thanks for the update and I think windows 10 may be just good as
XP.
After I remove the changes made by using shell programs scrubbing
ribbons and so on.




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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Robert Mendoza
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 7:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

its the Windows 10 version fall creator Update release. The first
two digits connotes as the year of 2017, and the last two digits
09 means September. But, don't get confuse about the naming code
convention though the said mentioned version is release this
month. Smile.

Robert Mendoza

On 10/30/2017 9:18 AM, Karim Lakhani wrote:
what does 1709 mean?



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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On
Behalf Of
Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 10:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

Hi,
I think it might be best to have a conversation offlist about
this,
but I'd say try 1709.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On
Behalf Of
Karim Lakhani
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 9:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

the MS. programs are a joke.
They wait until the screen readers catch up to technology, and
then
decide to make things as sighted friendly they can.
I'm not sure how Apple can produce accessibility and MS. is
still
trying.
Did they have a beta tester on the team who used NVDA with
Edge?
I'm OK, using old programs because I don't have the desire to
keep
trying to stay up there with the latest and best.
good luck!



EMAIL:karim.lakhani@shaw.ca
$$$$
SKYPE: goldenace4
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Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a
reputation
is. You can't control that. The only thing you can control is
your
character.
- Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-)



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On
Behalf Of
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 2:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

Another case of reinventing a wheel that works for one based on
non
rolling wheels. Baby and bathwater proverbs come to mind.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 5:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser


Hi,
There is no menu bar in Edge. I know, for many of you, this is
a
shocker, as many of you are used to such things on web
browsers.
In reality, there is a "menu bar", but it is housed in a menu
(quite
similar to Google Chrome). To get there, press Alt+X.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On
Behalf Of
Ron Canazzi
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

Hi Group,


I normally use Firefox for my default browser. Because of the
discussion about Edge, I tried it and it seems to have some
promise.
Someone just sent a bunch of shortcut keys on this list and
many are
the same as in Firefox.
I do have a few questions.


The biggest question is: are there any menus where in you can
customize Edge such as there are in Firefox, Chrome and
Internet
Explorer? I did see the one shortcut alt + S that is supposed
to open
the settings window. I tried this and nothing happened. Is
there
some setting that I must change to get menus to work?


Thanks in advance for any help.


--
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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana
boat!"



















Re: NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

Karim Lakhani <karim.lakhani@...>
 

And MS. still can't get it right.
I'm not sure if you could explain when moving messages to a folder, use to be alt "M" now it's "V"
I know you love the ribbons but unfortunately even jaws had to put a patch or to removing it.
I'm not sure what the logic is any more.
I guess that is the way of the world now.
 
 
 
 
EMAIL:karim.lakhani@...
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SKYPE: goldenace4
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reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you
can control is your character.
- Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-)
 
 
 



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 10:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

I would suggest not jumping to what seem like obvious conclusions.  the Edge browser is nothing like the old browsers in terms of how information is presented to screen-readers or how screen-readers extract information.  I don't know if anything could have been done more quickly in terms of achieving accessibility but Microsoft was far ahead in accessibility than Apple for over a decade. 
 
Apple gets all sorts of credit but it did what it did mostly out of necessity.  they were facing the prospect of losing a lot of educational school contracts because there products weren't accessible.  Long before that, Microsoft was doing serious work on accessibility. 
 
\Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

the MS. programs are a joke.
They wait until the  screen readers catch up to technology, and
then decide to make things as sighted friendly they can.
I'm not sure how Apple can produce accessibility and MS. is still
trying.
Did they have a beta tester on the team who used NVDA with Edge?
I'm OK, using old programs because I don't have the desire to
keep trying to stay up there with the latest and best.
 good luck!


 
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reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you
can control is your character.
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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 2:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

Another case of reinventing a wheel that works for one based on
non rolling wheels. Baby and bathwater proverbs come to mind.
 Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 5:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser


Hi,
There is no menu bar in Edge. I know, for many of you, this is a
shocker, as
many of you are used to such things on web browsers. In reality,
there is a
"menu bar", but it is housed in a menu (quite similar to Google
Chrome). To
get there, press Alt+X.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Ron
Canazzi
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

Hi Group,


I normally use Firefox for my default browser.  Because of the
discussion
about Edge, I tried it and it seems to have some promise. Someone
just sent
a bunch of shortcut keys on this list and many are the same as in
Firefox.
I do have a few questions.


The biggest question is: are there any menus where in you can
customize Edge
such as there are in Firefox, Chrome and Internet Explorer?  I
did see the
one shortcut alt + S that is supposed to open the settings
window.  I tried
this and nothing happened.  Is there some setting that I must
change to get
menus to work?


Thanks in advance for any help.


--
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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"













Re: Windows 10 Lock Screen Tip - Prevent NVDA From Saying Ratio While Reading The Time

Laughing Thunder
 

Yes. If you have a synth-specific dictionary, place the line I provided at the end of it instead.


On 10/29/2017 6:59 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi

Surely NVDA  will only use this default.dic file if there is no synth specific .dic file  available for the synth you have configured for use with the log-on/secure screens.  I.E if you have a synth specific .dic file in your user settings and elected to copy over your own settings using the facility in the General settings dialog.

 

Cheers

Chris  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laughingthunder
Sent: 29 October 2017 20:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Lock Screen Tip - Prevent NVDA From Saying Ratio While Reading The Time

 

No. The default dictionary is the file located at C:\Program Files (x86)\nvda\builtin.dic, which should not be modified. In the case of my instructions, the word "default" in the file name simply refers to the dictionary that will be used by all synthesizers installed in the configuration used on the logon screen and other secure screens.

 

On 10/29/2017 10:34 AM, Gene wrote:

Your instructions appear to replace the default dictionary in NVDA. Is that the case? 

 

Gene

----- original message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 9:21 AM

Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 Lock Screen Tip - Prevent NVDA From Saying Ratio While Reading The Time

 

NOTE: The following instructions assume that you are comfortable with
making technical modifications to NVDA's configuration. If you are not
comfortable with these types of changes, do not attempt these steps.

I was experimenting with NVDA's speech dictionaries yesterday, and
stumbled upon a way to stop NVDA from saying the word "ratio" when
reading the time on my Windows 10 lock screen. Here's what I did.

1. Paste the following line into a new notepad window.


    :    0    0


2. Save the file on the desktop as default.dic.

3. Copy the file to C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\systemConfig\speechDicts.

4. NVDA no longer says ratio when reading the time on the Windows 10
lock screen.


Thought some of you may find this tip useful.


 



outlook issue solved

 

Hi.

Well this is not exactly solved, but I put a call into microsoft today and they are aware and are investigating the issue which is known.

There is no timeline on it but they estimate another month or so, for whatever reason outlook is ignoring its format settings but no one knows why.

The bug came in the december update but no one knows what is going on, I am trying to get an article but at least its being looked at.


Re: Goldwave and NVDA interference

Doug Parisian <eggmann@...>
 

Laz, I experience exactly the same issue when using goldwave to process a file.  BTW, narrator is even worse with mostly no speech anywhere, even when using windows-D to get to the desktop.  I haven't yet tried with JFW.

On 2017-10-29 8:29 PM, Laz wrote:
you're not understanding what the situation is. Yes, everything is
slowed down slightly but if you use This PC or file manager, navigate
to a folder containing files, open it and try to arrow up or down no
subfolders or files are read. If you press alt and spacebar and
maximize you get to read the one subfolder or file but that's it. If
you continue to arrow up or down nothing is read.

Laz

On 10/29/17, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com> wrote:
That's why I change processing priority of goldwwave to medium or lo

On Oct 29, 2017 10:09 PM, "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Confirmed (especially when performing a lengthy process such as applying
effects to a long file). This would be because GoldWave takes over the
CPU
(that is, the program will use a lot of CPU time), making NVDA’s
responsiveness slower than usual.

Cheers,

Joseph



*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Damien
Sykes-Lindley
*Sent:* Sunday, October 29, 2017 9:27 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Goldwave and NVDA interference



Hi,

Has anyone else experienced this? When doing a batch conversion with
GoldWave, NVDA struggles or outright fails to read several Windows
utilities such as Windows Explorer, Control Panel etc. An acquaintance of
mine is experiencing the exact same issue.

As for me, I’m running on Windows 7 64-bit, NVDA 2017.2, GoldWave 6.31
and, not that I think this will make any difference, GoldWave NVDA addon
17.05.

The strangest thing, and perhaps the biggest problem with this, is that
it
only stopped working recently, in both cases. Mine a few months ago, and
the other guy’s a few weeks ago. The problem is that neither of us can
determine a pattern, I.E. a common denomenator that could or should
explain
the change.

I have tried disabling the addon (in case it was an addon update), I’ve
also tried with the latest NVDA – 2017.3 (in case it is a known issue and
has been fixed) but with no improvements.

Cheers.
Damien.



Re: Excel Macro editing

Pranav Lal
 

The macro editors are across all versions of Excel. I am happy to raise this as an issue unless someone gets to it before I do.

 

Pranav


Re: dictation bridge error

Pranav Lal
 

Hi David,

 

You can get dictationBridge from http://dictationbridge.com. The latest code is on github at http://github.com/dictationbridge

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Tanner
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 9:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dictation bridge error

 

Could somebody give me the webpage link to get dictation bridge thank you

David Tanner

 

From my iPhone 7


On Oct 26, 2017, at 7:41 PM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

I would appreciate it if you can submit the issue.  Thanks for your help.

 

From: Pranav Lal

Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 8:33 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] dictation bridge error

 

Hi Garry,

 

Hmm I am unable to duplicate the problem. Are you comfortable raising this an issue on github, if not, I will raise it for you so that we can track it and fix it.

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@... [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 4:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dictation bridge error

 

Hi,

 

I am using windows 10.

 

Here is what I do:

I open the nvda menu go to tools hit I arrow down to instructions for wsr and hit enter.  This is where I get the error.

I hope this helps.

 

From: Pranav Lal

Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 9:41 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] dictation bridge error

 

Hi Garry,

 

What do you mean by latest windows? Are you on Windows 7 or on Windows 10?

 

Please give me the exact steps you followed and the error you are getting.

 

Pranav


Re: NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

Robert Mendoza
 

its the Windows 10 version fall creator Update release. The first two digits connotes as the year of 2017, and the last two digits 09 means September. But, don't get confuse about the naming code convention though the said mentioned version is release this month. Smile.

Robert Mendoza

On 10/30/2017 9:18 AM, Karim Lakhani wrote:
what does 1709 mean?


EMAIL:karim.lakhani@shaw.ca
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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 10:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

Hi,
I think it might be best to have a conversation offlist about
this, but I'd say try 1709.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Karim Lakhani
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 9:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

the MS. programs are a joke.
They wait until the screen readers catch up to technology, and
then decide to make things as sighted friendly they can.
I'm not sure how Apple can produce accessibility and MS. is still
trying.
Did they have a beta tester on the team who used NVDA with Edge?
I'm OK, using old programs because I don't have the desire to
keep trying to stay up there with the latest and best.
good luck!


EMAIL:karim.lakhani@shaw.ca
$$$$
SKYPE: goldenace4
$$$$
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reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you can
control is your character.
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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 2:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

Another case of reinventing a wheel that works for one based on
non rolling wheels. Baby and bathwater proverbs come to mind.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 5:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser


Hi,
There is no menu bar in Edge. I know, for many of you, this is a
shocker, as many of you are used to such things on web browsers.
In reality, there is a "menu bar", but it is housed in a menu
(quite similar to Google Chrome). To get there, press Alt+X.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

Hi Group,


I normally use Firefox for my default browser. Because of the
discussion about Edge, I tried it and it seems to have some
promise. Someone just sent a bunch of shortcut keys on this list
and many are the same as in Firefox.
I do have a few questions.


The biggest question is: are there any menus where in you can
customize Edge such as there are in Firefox, Chrome and Internet
Explorer? I did see the one shortcut alt + S that is supposed to
open the settings window. I tried this and nothing happened. Is
there some setting that I must change to get menus to work?


Thanks in advance for any help.


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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


















Re: NVDA and the system tray

John Isige
 

Or if you don't have a context key, some desktop keyboards and many laptop keyboards don't for example, it's shift-f10. Note also on some laptop keyboards at least, you might need to use the fn key as well.

On 10/29/2017 18:52, Gene wrote:
Use the context menu key. Enter is double left click. Space is single left click. the context menu key is right click.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Don H <mailto:lmddh50@adams.net>
*Sent:* Sunday, October 29, 2017 6:46 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] NVDA and the system tray

How do you perform a right click on something shown in the system tray?
Using NVDA 2017-3 on a Win 10 fall creator laptop.
Thanks




Re: NVDA and edge

David Moore
 

Hi all!

Thanks Pascal!

You can save a web page as a favorite in Edge by pressing:

CTRL+D

And tab to save and press enter.

The easiest way to open the settings and more menu, is to press:

Alt+X

That is easier than finding and entering on it.

Take care, all, and please ask any questions about Edge.

I am using it as my daily browser now.

I really like the reading mode like Firefox has.

If you press:

CTRL+Shift+R

You only get the article you want to read, and all of the junk goes away on the web page.

To get the full page back,

Just press that command again!

It is a toggle!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 6:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and edge

 

Many thanks David.  You are very kind and always willing to help some of us novices.

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 5:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and edge

 

If you want to do anything in Edge that you could do in IE I think you simply press F6 and then go tab to the   Settings and more button, press enter on that and then select open page in IE.

 

David Griffith

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From: Gary Metzler
Sent: 29 October 2017 09:07
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and edge

 

Hi David,

 

Is there a command in edge that will let you save a web page like in ie?  Thanks for any help.

 

From: David Moore

Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 12:56 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and edge

 

Hi Pascal!

I never use RSS, but I will look into that for you!

Great question.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 8:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and edge

 

Hi David,

Please, can one use RSS with Edge?  If yes, I would appreciate you describe how.    

Thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 3:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and edge

 

Hi all!

Edge is almost my daily browser.

With NVDA, it is very snappy for me, and I can navigate complex web pages, just like with Chrome.

I can play videos, use sites like espn.com, stream TV in Edge, and on and on!

Edge is my browser 80 percent of the time with NVDA.

JAWS is another story, but the latest NVDA and Windows 10 1709, fall Creators work very well with Edge.

I would give Edge with NVDA a B + at least!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Hareth
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 12:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and edge

 

Welcome,

I'd say its not bad and its usable for a point.

but its not my daily browser.

 

On 10/28/17, Chris Shook <chris0309@...> wrote:

> Thanks Hareth, this will make things a lot easier.

> As an aside, how useable is edge at the moment.

> Chris

>

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Goldwave and NVDA interference

Laz
 

you're not understanding what the situation is. Yes, everything is
slowed down slightly but if you use This PC or file manager, navigate
to a folder containing files, open it and try to arrow up or down no
subfolders or files are read. If you press alt and spacebar and
maximize you get to read the one subfolder or file but that's it. If
you continue to arrow up or down nothing is read.

Laz

On 10/29/17, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com> wrote:
That's why I change processing priority of goldwwave to medium or lo

On Oct 29, 2017 10:09 PM, "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Confirmed (especially when performing a lengthy process such as applying
effects to a long file). This would be because GoldWave takes over the
CPU
(that is, the program will use a lot of CPU time), making NVDA’s
responsiveness slower than usual.

Cheers,

Joseph



*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Damien
Sykes-Lindley
*Sent:* Sunday, October 29, 2017 9:27 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Goldwave and NVDA interference



Hi,

Has anyone else experienced this? When doing a batch conversion with
GoldWave, NVDA struggles or outright fails to read several Windows
utilities such as Windows Explorer, Control Panel etc. An acquaintance of
mine is experiencing the exact same issue.

As for me, I’m running on Windows 7 64-bit, NVDA 2017.2, GoldWave 6.31
and, not that I think this will make any difference, GoldWave NVDA addon
17.05.

The strangest thing, and perhaps the biggest problem with this, is that
it
only stopped working recently, in both cases. Mine a few months ago, and
the other guy’s a few weeks ago. The problem is that neither of us can
determine a pattern, I.E. a common denomenator that could or should
explain
the change.

I have tried disabling the addon (in case it was an addon update), I’ve
also tried with the latest NVDA – 2017.3 (in case it is a known issue and
has been fixed) but with no improvements.

Cheers.
Damien.


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Re: NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

 

Hi,
Windows 10 Fall Creators Update.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Karim
Lakhani
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

what does 1709 mean?



EMAIL:karim.lakhani@shaw.ca
$$$$
SKYPE: goldenace4
$$$$
Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a reputation is. You
can't control that. The only thing you can control is your character.
- Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-)



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Lee
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 10:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

Hi,
I think it might be best to have a conversation offlist about this, but I'd
say try 1709.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Karim
Lakhani
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 9:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

the MS. programs are a joke.
They wait until the screen readers catch up to technology, and then decide
to make things as sighted friendly they can.
I'm not sure how Apple can produce accessibility and MS. is still trying.
Did they have a beta tester on the team who used NVDA with Edge?
I'm OK, using old programs because I don't have the desire to keep trying to
stay up there with the latest and best.
good luck!



EMAIL:karim.lakhani@shaw.ca
$$$$
SKYPE: goldenace4
$$$$
Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a reputation is. You
can't control that. The only thing you can control is your character.
- Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-)



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 2:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

Another case of reinventing a wheel that works for one based on non rolling
wheels. Baby and bathwater proverbs come to mind.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 5:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser


Hi,
There is no menu bar in Edge. I know, for many of you, this is a shocker, as
many of you are used to such things on web browsers.
In reality, there is a "menu bar", but it is housed in a menu (quite similar
to Google Chrome). To get there, press Alt+X.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron
Canazzi
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Using The Edge Browser

Hi Group,


I normally use Firefox for my default browser. Because of the discussion
about Edge, I tried it and it seems to have some promise. Someone just sent
a bunch of shortcut keys on this list and many are the same as in Firefox.
I do have a few questions.


The biggest question is: are there any menus where in you can customize Edge
such as there are in Firefox, Chrome and Internet Explorer? I did see the
one shortcut alt + S that is supposed to open the settings window. I tried
this and nothing happened. Is there some setting that I must change to get
menus to work?


Thanks in advance for any help.


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