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Re: Using NVDA with Pontes Media Downloader
Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
It doesn't offer you the ability to change file formats, but you can use youtube downloader located at:
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http://www.softcon.com/ytdlui.html to download youtube videos, and other url types as well. The documentation has pointers where to get the programs that do the various functions, (some of which are the same programs ponts downloader uses. I've not been asked for it, but I can certainly look into adding format options to the download options. I was thinking of adding mp3 format as an option anyhow with the next update.
On 10/31/2017 8:45 PM, Hareth wrote:
Hi Rich,
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Re: NVDA, MS Office 2007 & Google Chrome
Well they got rid of the old interface, everything is a button, pages of clickable clickable the notification key menu doesn't read the settings don't read, nothing works its a mess.
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On 2/11/2017 8:30 a.m., tina sohl wrote:
Someone was saying skype 8's a mess, what did they do with it?
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zello query
good evening all nvda users who use zello for windows pc version. If youget an incomming auth request how do you use NVDA to accept a pending auth?
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Re: finding a specific SAPI5 voice
Quentin Christensen
Hi Giles, In Windows 10, if you go into region and language settings (easiest way is usually search for that phrase in the start menu), go into English (UK), then into its options, and be sure you have added the speech pack. After you add a language to Windows 10, you still then need to manually tell it to add the speech and other packs to use it fully. Kind regards Quentin.
On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:35 AM, Giles Turnbull <giles.turnbull@...> wrote: Hi all, --
Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: NVDA and sappy five voices
tina sohl <tinabir@...>
wOW that's too bad. I've shopped there years and have nothing but good experiences so far.
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Yes, we have a Best Buy. I had a bad experience a few years ago when I purchased a laptop, and they said they were going to take all the junk off and they didn’t. And I paid them 100 bucks for the privilege. Things could’ve changed I suppose. I’ll be checking their end with a couple of small shops here in town. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2017, at 9:09 AM, tina sohl <tinabir@...> wrote: Is there a best buy near you? They have 1 24/7 warranty for 3 compuyers you can add at any time and installs are free. I'm not sure if the prices they gave us are the same everywhere though. I think it's hard getting one with out junk on it. Is there any one who could help you? We don't have anyone, so take ours to microsoft or somewhere. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2017, at 8:38 AM, tina sohl <tinabir@...> wrote: Mary, if you shop with HSN or qvc, they have good deals on pcs. We just took ours to a microsoft store and they just put windows back on it with out the junk. Just a thought. Sent from my iPhone I think my main advice, personally, if you are to rely on Free Screenreaders on windows is to keep a copy of the free Explorer ++ File Management Utility on your system. The main limitation with using NVDA for me personally with Windows 10 is the way it can grind to a halt in File Explorer with large drives. I can tab around but NVDA just will not respond for ages. This problem has persisted for me through several NVDA versions and through a complete fresh install of Windows . Luckily having a copy of Explorer ++ on your system can solve this problem nicely if you happen to experience it. I just put a copy of Explorer ++ on my Desktop and I have made a shortcut of control sshift E to it. NVDA is slick fast and snappy with this alternative to File Explorer, actually faster and more responsive than Jaws with this particular utility I find. This may not be an issue for you as NVDA I think is normally responsive to smaller size drives/folders in File Explorer but it definitely cannot cope with my secondary 4TB drive which is nearly full. It flies with Explorer ++ though. Explorer ++ can if you want completely replace File Explorer but I have not gone this route. It also has file management features not available in Explorer so might be worth having anyway. The other great resource is the Screenreader Accessible page at www.nimite.com <http://www.nimite.com> where you can get up and running with most of all the free programs you will need, including actually NVDA, with one single unattended and silent installer. Finally the addons repository and the Accessibility Central website which I believe the moderator on this list supports is also a great resource to get up and running with the Road Tested NVDA programs sections especially useful. http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ <http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/> David Griffith My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog From: Mary Otten <mailto:motten53@...> I had a Boot Camp Windows 7 installation on my Mac. It's actually still there. But I had some issues. Anyway, I didn't want to do fusion, because I had heard a lot about audio problems and keyboard mapping problems. I really thought if I hung on long enough, the issues I had would be solved. Are used a Mac since snow leopard. Now, I'm about done. So I will be checking into signature addition machines, even though they seem ungodly expensive and a bit more than I need in terms of horse power extra graphics etc. at least there are decent free alternative screen readers now, something that wasn't true in the past. Having been on the wrong screen reader horse numerous times, from window vision to window bridge to window eyes, I absolutely refuse to keep going down the rabbit hole of the page screenwriter but never keeps up anyway. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2017, at 11:16 AM, David Griffith <daj.griffith@... <mailto:daj.griffith@...>> wrote: I perfectly understand why you might need to move into a Windows environment from the Mac. I had to make much the same journey myself because productivity stuff was too difficult on the Mac. The good news is that Windows has improved for free access with improved support for NVDA and Narrator. In an ideal world it is good to have both machines but if money is an issue I just wondered why you have not gone either the VMWare Fusion or Boot Camp route to using Windows on a Mac? Just a suggestion – it might save you the cost of new laptop. David Griffith My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog From: Mary Otten <mailto:motten53@...> Does NVDA work with sapi 5 voices? Is it hard to get going? This would be on windows 10. I'm not sure if that was still work under windows 10. Still don't have a Windows 10 machine, but I'm just about to the point of buying one, since the d" Mac just isn't doing what I needed to do. But that's another thread not for this list. Mary Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Updated In-Process
Quentin Christensen
Brian that's probably a better account than mine! I think so many of these festivals, we in the West lose what it was originally about and turn it into a commercial endeavour simply to sell things and eat food.
On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 2:51 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote: I think a lot of people in the west assume that everyone knows such things. Its a weird combination of holy day, some pagan bad spirits day and commercial companies hi jacking it all to make money, IE the sell things to dress up as monsters spirits and sundry other nasty looking things and then sell everyone pumpkins which they then destroy to put candles in and not eat. They then force everyone to buy sweets and candy to give out to children who come to doors demanding them on the evening of the 31st October and if they don't get one they play some stupid practical joke on you. --
Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: Updated In-Process
Quentin Christensen
Hi Zahra, My apologies, I got distracted by my link not working and hadn't read all the way through the original thread until this morning. I had just replied about Halloween, but I see others have here also so I'm glad you at least got the information! Kind regards Quentin.
On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 5:19 PM, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote: hello quentin. --
Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: Halloween In-Process
Quentin Christensen
Hi Zahra, Do you mean you aren't familiar with Halloween or did I write "[nvda] Halloween" somewhere? If the latter, I'm not sure. If you aren't familiar with Halloween, it's origins are debated (Christian, Celtic, Pagan), but essentially these days, it's a celebration of all things spooky and creepy (ghosts, ghouls, skeletons, witches), and particularly in Western countries, mostly a chance to decorate or dress up, and play with pumpkins. America, particularly, seems to have embraced the tradition and celebration. Kids like to dress up and knock on nearby houses door's and get given lollies - which does seem a bit odd given we spend the rest of the year telling them not to accept things from strangers :) The common history, broadly, is that November 1 is "All saints day" in the Christian year, a celebration of every saint, known and unknown. The eve of this either being the last chance for wandering souls to seek vengeance on earth before All Saint's Day, or the time when the barriers between worlds are down and ghostly spirits walk the land. I'm sure plenty of others know more about the holiday than I do, but that's my "Halloween in a paragraph" explanation. Actually if you want to read more, WIkipedia has more than I read on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween Kind regards Quentin.
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Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: NVDA, MS Office 2007 & Google Chrome
Chris Mullins
Hi and welcome I use Outlook 2007 and Windows 10 but I previously used it under Windows 7 Home. For me, Outlook rarely crashes and I don’t have any of the symtoms you describe when using it, (in both 7 and 10) but I found that it will stop working if you attempt to access the status bar using the NVDA+End keystroke. I use it in a basic stripped down way, switching off preview pane,navigation pane, toolbars etc, basically just accessing the Inbox folder switching folders using Control+y as required.
As for the Ebay packing slip buttons, have you had a look at the Document formatting dialog, using NVDA+Control+d. Just ensure you have all the options you require checked.
HTH Chris
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Clare Page
Sent: 1 November 2017 11:20 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA, MS Office 2007 & Google Chrome
Hi! I’m glad to hear that you like NVDA, Philip, but I’m sorry you have several problems with it. I can’t answer most of your questions, but I can say that, as far as I know, there are no special add-ons for Microsoft Office. I use Office 2007 myself, specifically Word, Excel and Outlook: the latter crashes sometimes for me, but otherwise it works well, and the only view change I made in Outlook after installing it was to have the newest emails at the bottom which I prefer. I also found that disabling the reading of tables works better for me in emails, as the body of some emails comes up as tables and I don’t want to hear row and column numbers all the time while reading the text: that’s my choice, though, and you may feel differently about that. I hope other people can answer your other questions! Bye for now! From Clare
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Philip Anderson via Groups.Io
Hi All
I am new to this group and wish to thank you for kindly accepting my membership. I am very much looking forward to meeting you and hearing your NVDA experiences.
I am really enjoying using NVDA. It is a fabulous alternative to JAWS. However, I have a few questions and wondered if you can help.
Please forgive me in advance if I have included two many questions in one email. I’m thinking most of them might simply be a case of settings; he says holding his breath... J
Please advise if you would rather I created a separate thread for each question. Here goes... Operating System: Windows 7 Home MS Office 2007
Q1. Are there any NVDA add ons for MS Office 2007?
I have searched, but cannot seem to find any.
In addition, what's the best configuration settings for viewing MS office 2007 Outlook messages in table view, only I am finding response time terribly slow and crashes and programme closures frequent? I have tried enabling 'tables' in 'settings' and selecting anything else seemingly likely to resolve the problem, but without joy.
Furthermore, I am presently encountering problems sending and replying to messages. I am having to launch the 'new message or 'reply' options twice before I can write anything that NVDA will read back to me in all edit fields from 'address, subject and body.'
* Attempt 1 merely keeps saying 'blank' whenever I type into the fields, then freezes and I am forced to exit and try again.
* Works perfectly second time round.
NVDA, Google Chrome & Ebay
Q3. Similarly, I am experiencing one or two issues revising my Ebay listings. While I am able to edit 'Product Title' and 'General Item Specifics', there seems to be compatibility issues when it comes to updating 'Price' & 'Quantities' in listings with multiple variations when 'drag and drop' is required. What do you recommend?
Q4. In Paypal, while I can generally find work arounds for most things, accessing the buttons in 'packing slips' is a problem.
A Packing slip is a consignment note businesses can print off and include in with their products they are sending out to their customers. To access 'Packing Slips': * first select 'Summary' * arrow down to payments received * select recipient and press enter * search for 'print packing slip' and press enter.
Here you should see three buttons:
* Button 1 allows you to 'print the slip * button 2, edit your personalised customer message & * button 3, Done.
NVDA recognises and echos the associated text for these buttons, but simply refuses to display them as clickable options.
Finally... Q5. What possibly could be the underlining reason why NVDA's general key stroke options keeps malfunctioning on my machine, leaving me with delayed speech recognition and no means of restarting the programme using the standard shortcut option other than a 'hard system boot?'
Thank you in anticipation for your help in this regard.
Cordially
Philip
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Re: Reading PDF files with NVDA using acrobat? Or awebbrowser?
David Griffith
As an experiment I loaded the same PDF I tested in Edge into QRead and it also did not find any headings at all. So functionally it was no difference to Edge in the access it gave. However I do like QRead generally, especially with ePub books. Pressing control H will normally bing up a headings list of all the chapters of an ePub book which I find easy to navigate with. I will do some more testing though Edge does seem to offer at least basic PDF access with NVDA.
David Griffith
My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
From: Mary Otten
Sent: 01 November 2017 20:11 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading PDF files with NVDA using acrobat? Or awebbrowser?
I have no problem paying for programs when they do what I need them to do. Free is nice, but it’s not always the best. Sent from my iPhone
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Re: New NVDA user
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Hey Tony. Thanks. You always have to wonder in these situations, what “the other guy” was like, especially when you feel you conduct yourself rather well. Oh well, there’ll be others.
So far, I’ve got the add-ons for Winamp, VLC, extended Aria support and the Windows 10 essentials. I’ll try some of the ones you mentioned, though I can only guess what a couple of them do.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Ballou
Sent: November 1, 2017 4:26 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] New NVDA user
Hi,
Welcome aboard! Sorry about not getting the job, that sucks!Their are a number of add ons that I find useful, they are clip speak, clip contents designer, OBJ Pad, review cursor copier, golden cursor, resource monitor, easy table navigator and place markers just to name a few.
Tony
On 10/31/2017 2:21 PM, JM Casey wrote:
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Re: Microsoft Core voice pausing too long between sentences
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Hi Tyler.
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It turned out that the file I had to modify was not the same as the one listed in your instructions, but when I did so and changed the values as you suggested in your blog .. it's now working perfectly. So thanks for that. For reference, the path for the file I needed to modify was: "C:\Windows\Speech_OneCore\Engines\TTS\en-US\M1033David.INI" So it seems each core voice has its own ini file that one would have to change manually. I did find another file in the windows\speech folder that I think had the name you mentioned (sorry, I don't have your blog page open right now), but that must have been for the sapi5 voices or something. Anyway, yes, I did have to give myself permission to modify the file, of course. I'm now much happier with Dave, who sounds more awake. Cheers.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tyler Spivey Sent: October 31, 2017 8:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Core voice pausing too long between sentences You should only need to restart NVDA. Which file did you modify, and did your editor let you save it without problems? If it brought up save as, then it didn't. On 10/31/2017 2:07 PM, JM Casey wrote:
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finding a specific SAPI5 voice
Hi all,
I've got a specific SAPI5 voice question I'm hoping somebody might have an answer to. I use an Asus laptop, and Chuwi VI10 and Microsoft Surface Pro4 tablets, all of which are running Win10 and NVDA 17.3. For my normal day to day work I use Voice: Microsoft Zira Desktop - English (United States) but for times when I'm doing a poetry performance I alternate poems I've memorised with ones I use the Hazel voice to perform. I managed to break my Chuwi VI10 by sitting on it and decided to replace it with a Chuwi HI10. I like the Chuwi tablets because they have two full size USB ports so I can use a wifi keyboard and another USB device at the same time. I tend to set my devices up with English UK settings and then add English US keyboard layout. When I set the Chuwi HI10 system up I managed to configure Win10 the opposite way round, using US settings and adding an English UK keyboard layout, mainly because I had sighted assistance who wasn't familiar with setting up Windows and we couldn't find the English UK setup options. I suspect it's as a consequence of that that the HI10 does not have the Hazel UK English SAPI5 voice installed. I know there are various articles on adding additional voices to NVDA, but none of them shed any light on how to add a specific Microsoft SAPI5 voice, namely Hazel, back to my system. Some webpages suggest adding English UK as a language in Control Panel settings, but when I try and do that English UK doesn't appear in the list of languages I can add, which I presume means I have already done that when I instaled the UK keyboard layout. Does anybody know how or where I can find a download or purchase the Hazel voice? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated :) Thanks, Giles
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Re: Dropbox.
Gene
There is no problem working with preferences and
you don't need the add on. I don't know if the add on works any longer but
if you are in preferences, control tab moves you forward through the pages and
control shift tab moves you back.
Gene
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Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 12:15 PM
Subject: [nvda] Dropbox. you cannot access the preferences with or without the add on and if you do have this, has anyone reported it to tthem.They used to be quite up on access but of late their web site has become messy and the desktop utility has change version for nearly every week for months. I also notice that in task manager I appear to have three copies of the executable running all with different lengths, but with the same process name. Is this expected or should I take steps to reininstall it. I do rely on it for my web site updating so I'm loathe to do this unless I have to and in case logging in has become inaccessible as well. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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Re: no numpad
Tony Ballou
Hi,
The insert key can be used as a modifier, or use the caps lock key, or better still get a USB or wireless keyboard for it.
Tony
On 10/31/2017 4:52 PM, Ame wrote:
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Re: New NVDA user
Tony Ballou
Hi,
Welcome aboard! Sorry about not getting the job, that sucks!Their are a number of add ons that I find useful, they are clip speak, clip contents designer, OBJ Pad, review cursor copier, golden cursor, resource monitor, easy table navigator and place markers
just to name a few.
Tony
On 10/31/2017 2:21 PM, JM Casey wrote:
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Re: New NVDA user
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Hey Damien. No, you are right, JAWS officially has nothing like this, and it is a shame, but I guess, typical of commercial products. The closest thing would probably be the JAWS users page, which has a page with a bunch of script links, but it’s hardly everything and I never got the impression FS really encouraged people to do this.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien Sykes-Lindley
Sent: November 1, 2017 2:14 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] New NVDA user
Hi, The reason I say NVDA addons are managed better than JAWS scripts is because NVDA has the addon repository. Admittedly I haven’t visited the JAWS website in some time, but last I checked they didn’t have a similar repository for JAWS scripts so you had to search high and low for them. Cheers. Damien.
Hi. Thanks for the awesome response.
Yeah, the eSpeak voice – you know, I recently got an emulator for the Apple 2 and old Echo speech synthesizer. It was really eerie to hear that singing robotic voice again after so many years. It’s weird that I have an easier time listening to that than I do eSpeak, a synth still in use today, but there you go. I don’t demand the human-sounding ones; Eloquence is really good enough for me, but I’ve gotten used to Vocalizer with JAWS now and mostly like it … only as you say, it sounds worse when you increase the speech rate.
Interesting that you say NVDA add-ons work better than JAWS scripts for their respective products. Why is that? They do seem a little easier to install. I use both Goldwave and Winamp, so I’ll gladly give those ones a try.
Thanks again.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien Sykes-Lindley
Hi, Running JAWS in 40 minute mode was about the best I could hope for before getting NVDA. There are a whole bunch of voices you can get for NVDA, including recently Eloquence, the same voice that is generally and traditionally associated with JAWS. If you prefer the complete JAWS keyboard layout you can of course remap NVDA’s commands to your liking, as well as have separate configurations per application. A lot of this has only happened over the past few years. I have been using NVDA as my primary screen reader now for the past four or five years. As for speech synthesisers, they are the most important component for those relying on audible feedback only and have thus opened up plenty of cans of worms for people. Especially if they are not understood. As far as I’m concerned, though ESpeak is free, responsive and portable, I struggle to understand it due to its robotic nature, its sharpness, and it’s tonal timbre. Reminds me of a distorted version of the Dolphin Apollo 2 with a bit of feedback. Concatenative speech synthesisers also have their drawbacks. They can pick the wrong samples, you can hear audible artefacts at faster speeds and different pitches, and they are less responsive than the formant ones. While Eloquence is not my be-all-end-all, it is definitely one of the most readily available. What’s more, fortunately there is a legal way to use Eloquence with NVDA now. While I believe wholeheartedly that without commercial screen readers we would probably never gotten as far as we have with such as NVDA, I also believe, just as strongly, that we shouldn’t have to pay any more than a sighted person should have to pay for a screen to be able to access information on our computers. Therefore even were I given the choice I would probably never upgrade to a commercial reader on principle, unless of course the price was significantly lowered. As for addons. NVDA works a lot better with addons than JAWS did with scripts. NVDA has a central repository of addons that you can browse and use. While some people do create addons and host them privately, the vast majority of things that need to be scripted are available officially. What addons you use depend on what applications you use. Personally, I use the GoldWave and Winamp addons. I used the Station Playlist addon until recently when I stopped broadcasting. As for generic addons, again it depends what functionality you’re looking for. I wrote an addon to try and simulate, if not improve, the announcements that JAWS makes when you access the clipboard. Though it does have some known snags... There’s also the Day of the Week addon that I’m fond of, sometimes I use NVDA Remote (though generally only to access my home PC should I be away with my laptop etc, very rare for me!), Virtual Review, System Tray etc. Of course there’s also ones that I have no need for, such as OCR, weather retrieval, speech recognition, translation, enhanced clock etc. Hope that helps. Cheers.
Hello folks. I’m sure other people have posted testimonials of some sort here before, but I fancy some enjoy reading such things, so here goes with mine. Feel free to ignore this message as I’m not posting for help or anything like that, though I will end with a question of sorts for the list.
I’ve been a JAWS user since, roughly, 1999. I recently got a Windows 10 machine (upgraded from XP!) and was able to get new JAWS at a discounted price from my former employer. I took advantage of the discount just before they laid me off! *grins*
Well, obviously perhaps, I’ve been spending a lot of time looking for employment since then. I recently had an interview where they needed me to do a test on a computer. They had not much idea about accommodations for blind folks but seemed very willing to give it a go. With a faint glimmer of hope, I told them about JAWS: that it was the most professional screen-reader around; that “yes, I know it’s really expensive, but there is a demo you can run for forty minutes at a time!”, etc, etc. ‘There’s also this thing called NVDA,” I muttered a little under my breath, “which is a free one; if you can’t get JAWS working, I suppose I could work with that.” I showed up to the interview, foolishly hoping my ole’ buddy the shark would save me. Nope! They couldn’t even get the demo to run, for some reason (the test computer was an old one, I think, running XP). So, NVDA it was to be!
I’ll back up a bit and say I’ve known about nVDA for quite some time. I always thought it might come in handy and that I should get it on one of my machines and start using it, but never got around to it. The closest I came was using it on my ex-wife’s laptop, mostly to play music. I still don’t like eSpeak, I’m afraid, and I used it on a Linux machine running Orca before, too. Because that laptop wasn’t mine I never really spent a lot of time with it; didn’t realise it would in fact be possible to change the synthesiser to something more to my liking.
Well, there I was, sitting in this open office, sweating profusely and feeling tense because I didn’t really know what I was doing. I managed to switch the voice to the XP narrator one, and that was reasonably ok. I found that everything worked like a charm! I only had to use three programmes at that time: notepad, MS Word and a programme for audio playback/transcription that had (thankfully) native keystroke commands. A part of the test was related to spelling and grammar, so I was able to configure NVDA, without reference to the user guide or any prior experience, to speak the level of punctuation I wanted and to indicate capital letters in a way that was convenient. There was a time limit involved, so I really wasn’t able to play around as much as I should have, yet I was very pleased that I was basically able to get everything up and working to my satisfaction.
Now I’m at home, running nVDA, and really liking it. I have no JAWS upgrades left, and that doesn’t bother me as much as I thought it would, though I’m not abandoning it altogether as I’m sure both screen-readers have their strengths.
So, I read the user guide. Great. A lot of very familiar keystrokes. Some small differences, but that’s fine and even welcome. I stumbled across the “switching from jAWS to nVDA” wiki page today and read through it; it confirmed some of what I’d already noted. I have also been looking through the add-ons on the official page and just installed the Windows 10 Essentials one. I don’t like these modern universal apps much, but, you know, may as well get used to them if they’re the up-and-coming thing, and maybe they’ll actually work better with NVDA than they do with JAWS.
What do you all think, those of you who have expereince with both screen-readers? Any thoughts that might not have been mentioned on the wiki over there? I’m not looking to start an argument, obviously, but I didn’t get a lot of feedback when I posted a similar message (without some of th e sarcasm) on the JAWS list, and I thought it might actually go over better here.
Also, what add-ons do you all like to use?
Cheers, and glad to be a part of the NVDA community.
P.S.: I didn’t get the job. That’s ok. I still learned something.
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Re: Reading PDF files with NVDA using acrobat? Or a webbrowser?
Mary Otten <motten53@...>
I have no problem paying for programs when they do what I need them to do. Free is nice, but it’s not always the best. Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 1, 2017, at 9:56 AM, David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> wrote:
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Re: New NVDA user
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Hi. Thanks for the response. This seems a friendly and helpful community.
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Just a quick question, Claire....I noticed there are two possible Vocalizer add-ons: one packaged with Eloquence and made my Code Factory, the other simply called "Nuance Vocalizer Expressive" or something like that. I'm thinking of getting the second one so that I can get my favourite "premium high quality" Daniel voice working with nVDA. But which one do you use?
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Clare Page Sent: November 1, 2017 6:41 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] New NVDA user Hi! I was a JAWS user for ten years before I switched to using NVDA full-time. I used JAWS 3.5 on Windows 98 to begin with, then JAWS 6.20 on Windows XP. In 2010 my XP computer started having power issues, so I started using NVDA more regularly on that computer because it used less power. That computer finally gave up the ghost in 2011, so, as I couldn't afford to upgrade JAWS for Windows 7, I switched to NVDA and have used that ever since. The only thing which would make me use JAWS again is if I needed it for a particular job, or if I was using someone else's computer which has JAWS but not NVDA, but neither situation seems very likely for me right now. As for add-ons, I use several, including Vocalizer, the add-on for Winamp, and the add-on to read emoticons and emojis which are so often used these days. There are lots of good add-ons out there, depending on what you want, whether it's extra voices or extra functions. Bye for now! From Clare -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige Sent: mardi 31 octobre 2017 20:21 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] New NVDA user Well I don't know about strengths and weaknesses. But my testimonial is that I got sick of paying for jaws, so I decided to try NVDA for a month, I think it was. There were a few times, mostly with installers or the like, where I'd run into a situation where NVDA wouldn't read the screen, so I'd fire up jaws. Jaws didn't read the screen either. I realized that NVDA was doing everything I needed it to and jaws wasn't offering me any advantages that I could see, so I switched. Pretty simple really. I have nothing against jaws, used it for years, man I want to say from 3 or 4 or such. As for addons, you might want to check out NVDA Remote. There's an addon for Winamp and VLC. I've got Vocalizer for NVDA. The SysTrayList addon is nice, but that's mostly because I can never remember if there's a quick way to get to the system tray without it. NVDA works just fine without it, you can get into the tray and right click and all, but the addon basically gives you the equivalent of jaws-F11. A couple other jaws equivalents are Virtual Review and Place Markers, the latter gives you place markers on web pages and some other documents. Hope that helps.
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Re: NVDA and sappy five voices
Mary Otten <motten53@...>
Yes, we have a Best Buy. I had a bad experience a few years ago when I purchased a laptop, and they said they were going to take all the junk off and they didn’t. And I paid them 100 bucks for the privilege. Things could’ve changed I suppose. I’ll be checking their end with a couple of small shops here in town.
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On Oct 31, 2017, at 9:09 AM, tina sohl <tinabir@...> wrote:
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