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Re: goldwave

Tony Ballou
 

Hi Arlene,


It certainly does!  Have had no problems with it and windows 10.


Tony


On 11/3/2017 2:13 PM, Arlene wrote:

Hi list. Does Goldwave work with windows ten? If it does. That would be great.



Re: Installing NVDA and disabling some sort of security setting

Chris
 

Are you talking about the "continue as administrator" dialog?
if so and you are using a standard account then you are going to encounter problems
but if you are using a admin account then you should'nt get this dialog
or if you do you get the continue as administrator dialog
well thats my interpretation of whats happening here


Re: Firefox 57 etc

Gene
 

Then it may be that downgrading to the ESR version incorrectly may cause problems, at least for some users.  You should avoid such problems by using the portable version which, as I said in earlier messages, I think is a better option anyway.
 
Gene

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 57 etc

That is what I thought, but then I did a check for updates inside it it
offered me version 56 which I declined.
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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 57 etc


I thought the whole point of the ESR version was that   it would not update
to 57 until about June next year, when hopefully the accessibility issues
will have improved. According to the FS Blog on this they say that people
using ESR will however continue to get the latest security updates
installed into Firefox ESR but  will not be vulnerable to the main upgrade
to 57 until next year.
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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 57 etc

Yes I saw a message on the issues list from James, about some fixing for
version 58, so maybe it will get resolved from the currently unusable state.
Its new users of any screenreader I feel sorry for, especially where its a
shared machine and the sighted member just lets firefox update.
 There are a couple of other issues. It disabled both my add ons,
navigational sounds and Ublock Origin ad blocker and even when I put the
version 52 back on I had to re download both add ons and install them again.
Not only that but nvda after the update could not read the screen of the add
ons manager, I had to exit  firefox completely and go back in again to see
if they had installed correctly, I'm sure this was not the case prior to up
and down dating the version I had, which was 55. How also does one set 52 to
get security updates without letting it update to 57 as I see it wants to do
till I set updates to no, ie not recommended.
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From: "Robert Mendoza" <lowvisiontek@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 57 etc


> Hi, Brian
>
>
> I have the same issue on the other machine, and that is the reason why I
> keep to shift instead to use the Firefox ESR version 52 but for now I will
> stick to this version because there is likely more stable in performance
> and never has a problem. And, once the issue has fix maybe I could go for
> to use and test it again.
>
>
> Robert Mendoza
>
> On 11/3/2017 6:00 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
>> With regard to this version of Firefox, and in addition to what Joseph
>> posted about it. Here is what me acting as the average unaware updater
>> found.
>> After installation only the menus work, no content on the page is
>> readable, you cannot go into any browse or focus mode. You just here
>> unknown.
>> Now there may well be some kind of setting that can be altered, I do not
>> know, to achieve what he got, slow but functioning. I could not find any
>> option for this. Not only that but it seemed to lose almost half of my
>> bookmarks as well.
>>
>> So unless they fix this on the release version anyone trying to use
>> Firefox 57 when it comes out with the latest version of nvda, and I am up
>> to date with the master branch here, will not be able to do so unless
>> they know how to make it work.
>> If these people are employees then they will probably need the permission
>> of an admin to reinstall a version like 55, and turn off auto updates. I
>> have reinstalled 52 in actual fact and got my bookmarks back as well as
>> functionality. To my mind the makers of Firefox at the current state of
>> play should be able to see if screenreading software is on a machine in a
>> similar way to Adobe reader or Jarte does, and prevent it from updating
>> to an unworkable version.
>> I cannot understand why they have not done this.
>>
>> Anyone care to comment?
>> Brian
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Re: Installing NVDA and disabling some sort of security setting

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Yes but don't you have to actually turn this folder function on. I think its designed to keep control of the desktop Many people with sight often clutter the desktop with all sorts of junk and an admin can now make that particular folder or any other, banned to be changed by anyone else. Its actually a good idea I suppose but then I like having a cluttered desktop!

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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Isige" <gwynn@...>
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Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2017 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Installing NVDA and disabling some sort of security setting


No, there's a new thing in the latest Windows 10. I think I still have
the message somewhere or other. It prevents the installer from making a
desktop shortcut and it might give an error or something, but apparently
NVDA runs just fine once it's done, other than not having the desktop
shortcut.


On 11/4/2017 1:47, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi


you are not talking about the UAC screen that comes up when you go to
install a copy of NVDA onto a machine? if this does come up use the
ALT key + letter Y to say yes to it or just tab to it. then NVDA will
finish installing.


Unless a anti virus program does it? then you would have to look in
that virus program and make it a exception


Gene nz

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On 11/4/2017 11:40 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Recently, I saw a message that talked about the need to disable some sort of security settings in windows 10 when you were installing NVDA. It was a folder I think that you couldn’t get access to and less you disable the setting, and NVDA needs to have that access when it installs. I’ve just spent some time looking through old messages trying to find this and I can’t. Can anybody help me out? I’m sorry to be so vague, but I just can’t find this message.
Mary


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Re: Bluetooth speakers on a PC with NVDA?

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I think its like everything else, if the hardware is capable then yes, but you have no idea how fast it is at either end of the link. If you just want to listen to music, then fine.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Chao" <kevinchao89@...>
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Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2017 2:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Bluetooth speakers on a PC with NVDA?


I was under the false-impression that Bluetooth 5 would reduce latency, but
more detailed research prooved very little audio improvements in this new
version of Bluetooth.

On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 7:07 PM David Griffith <daj.griffith@...>
wrote:



I don’t use Bluetooth speakers because of possible latency. Having said
that I understand from a Podcast from Jonathan Mosen that the new Bluetooth
5 standard, if I remember correctly, might improve the situation.

So checking the Bluetooth standard of the speakers and your machine might
reveal if this is the Bluetooth standard. If not I would personally avoid
them and stick to a wired solution.

Some speakers pair with each other wirelessly but accept a wired input
from a sound source into one of the speakers which may be a solution. I
have some speakers which can do this but have never used them on a PC.



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*From: *Mary Otten <motten53@...>
*Sent: *04 November 2017 00:02


*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject: *[nvda] Bluetooth speakers on a PC with NVDA?



Hi all,

I am considering a set up with clips ProMedia to Bluetooth speakers for my
new PC. I have had less than stellar experiences with phones and Bluetooth
speakers or headsets. There is latency, and with my Apple TV and sound bar,
it was unusable, because the voice consistently miss the first few
syllables due to the delay in the speaker kicking in. This would be totally
unusable on a PC of course with the screen reader and software speech. My
old PC has a hardware card for speech, and the Mac has USB speakers. So I
have no experience with a PC or Mac for that matter, with Bluetooth
speakers and software speech. I really like these speakers, but not if
they’re going to present issues with the software speech for the screen
meter. Comments?

Mary





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Re: Installing NVDA and disabling some sort of security setting

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There is a ticket for it being worked on in Github, as I saw it while looking for something else.
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Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2017 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Installing NVDA and disabling some sort of security setting


I suspect it is off by default. If not, we should have seen lots of people reporting problems since Windows 10 started to be distributed.

Gene
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From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 7:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Installing NVDA and disabling some sort of security setting


Controlled Folder Access. I think it's off by default.
On 11/3/2017 3:40 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
Recently, I saw a message that talked about the need to disable some sort of security settings in windows 10 when you were installing NVDA. It was a folder I think that you couldn’t get access to and less you disable the setting, and NVDA needs to have that access when it installs. I’ve just spent some time looking through old messages trying to find this and I can’t. Can anybody help me out? I’m sorry to be so vague, but I just can’t find this message.
Mary


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Re: Installing NVDA and disabling some sort of security setting

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You only encounter this normally in a company machine with a paranoid IT manager! grin.
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Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2017 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Installing NVDA and disabling some sort of security setting


Controlled Folder Access. I think it's off by default.
On 11/3/2017 3:40 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
Recently, I saw a message that talked about the need to disable some sort of security settings in windows 10 when you were installing NVDA. It was a folder I think that you couldn’t get access to and less you disable the setting, and NVDA needs to have that access when it installs. I’ve just spent some time looking through old messages trying to find this and I can’t. Can anybody help me out? I’m sorry to be so vague, but I just can’t find this message.
Mary


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Re: Bluetooth speakers on a PC with NVDA?

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I'd say don't use them. Latency seems to be the issue, indeed even some laptops recently with internal cards are clipping the start or end of speech since they are somehow trying to anticipate when sound should be enabled to save power.
Its one thing I'm going to have to check on on my new machine.
I just don't like bluetooth due to its delay. For example say you are trying to do DJ stuff with a bog standard set of bluetooth phones you hear just enough delay in your ears to make you sound drunk when you play yourself back. direct connection is king.
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Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2017 12:02 AM
Subject: [nvda] Bluetooth speakers on a PC with NVDA?


Hi all,
I am considering a set up with clips ProMedia to Bluetooth speakers for my new PC. I have had less than stellar experiences with phones and Bluetooth speakers or headsets. There is latency, and with my Apple TV and sound bar, it was unusable, because the voice consistently miss the first few syllables due to the delay in the speaker kicking in. This would be totally unusable on a PC of course with the screen reader and software speech. My old PC has a hardware card for speech, and the Mac has USB speakers. So I have no experience with a PC or Mac for that matter, with Bluetooth speakers and software speech. I really like these speakers, but not if they’re going to present issues with the software speech for the screen meter. Comments?
Mary


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Re: Installing NVDA and disabling some sort of security setting

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That is a bit vague. If you are using an admin account on windows 10, I don't recall any issues unless they have introduced something in the recent updates that I'm unaware of.
Certainly I was quite disappointed that the portable version of nvda was significantly less useful on windows 10 due to its more extensive use of UIA than its forebears, like 7.
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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 10:40 PM
Subject: [nvda] Installing NVDA and disabling some sort of security setting


Recently, I saw a message that talked about the need to disable some sort of security settings in windows 10 when you were installing NVDA. It was a folder I think that you couldn’t get access to and less you disable the setting, and NVDA needs to have that access when it installs. I’ve just spent some time looking through old messages trying to find this and I can’t. Can anybody help me out? I’m sorry to be so vague, but I just can’t find this message.
Mary


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Re: Avg anti-virus and nvda

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Some of it works some does not. It now has been bought out by Avast, and as we all know that particular product has stopped anything being allowed to access it such as screenreadders. I'd suggest, don't let them put anything on it except Defender/msse as was, as unless you have poor browsing habits or have young children who click first and then worry later, most of the time you are safe from average stuff.

You can get as paranoid as you want of course but its of no use finding things if the software cannot let you deal with them very well.
I have been playing with superantispyware, and it has what I might call flaky accessibility, but to my mind its not actually found anything bad. it does flag many programs as potentially dangerous such as password revealers and the like but since I put them on, I tell it to ignore those.
Sometimes it decides not to get focus at all even using screen or object nav as well, and is in need of some attention in this department in my view, but I don't think they will bother.
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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 9:40 PM
Subject: [nvda] Avg anti-virus and nvda


Hi all,
I had a consultation with a local custom PC builder. We were talking about the various software that I would like to use, and I mentioned windows defender as the virus program. He said they generally recommend and install AVG. A long long time ago, I use that program, and missed a virus. And subsequently I heard it had become inaccessible. What is the status of this program with respect to Accessibility with NVDA? Have any of you have experience is good or bad with it?
Mary


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Re: Firefox 57 etc

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Indeed, However I am critical of Mozillas handling of this. Its not often that the makers of Jaws put up a page about the pitfalls and also criticise a particular company for being unthinking about their policy toward the VI community.

Let us hope that somebody in the management at that organisation takes us more seriously, however I'm not holding my breath, and I'm not sure if jamie working for them will help much if the culture is going down the road toward making all software inaccessible to stop hacking. He is probably not the most tactful person in the world as indeed neither am I. I can now afford to grow old disgracefully. Age has its advantages as history does tend to repeat itself and we have all been here before, sadly.
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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 57 etc



Hello. I don't think it's worth installing Mozila 57 until she's fully available to NVDA.
Отправлено из Почты для Windows 10

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Тема: Re: [nvda] Firefox 57 etc

Yes I saw a message on the issues list from James, about some fixing for
version 58, so maybe it will get resolved from the currently unusable state.
Its new users of any screenreader I feel sorry for, especially where its a
shared machine and the sighted member just lets firefox update.
There are a couple of other issues. It disabled both my add ons,
navigational sounds and Ublock Origin ad blocker and even when I put the
version 52 back on I had to re download both add ons and install them again.
Not only that but nvda after the update could not read the screen of the add
ons manager, I had to exit firefox completely and go back in again to see
if they had installed correctly, I'm sure this was not the case prior to up
and down dating the version I had, which was 55. How also does one set 52 to
get security updates without letting it update to 57 as I see it wants to do
till I set updates to no, ie not recommended.
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From: "Robert Mendoza" <lowvisiontek@...>
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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 57 etc


Hi, Brian


I have the same issue on the other machine, and that is the reason why I
keep to shift instead to use the Firefox ESR version 52 but for now I will
stick to this version because there is likely more stable in performance
and never has a problem. And, once the issue has fix maybe I could go for
to use and test it again.


Robert Mendoza

On 11/3/2017 6:00 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
With regard to this version of Firefox, and in addition to what Joseph
posted about it. Here is what me acting as the average unaware updater
found.
After installation only the menus work, no content on the page is
readable, you cannot go into any browse or focus mode. You just here
unknown.
Now there may well be some kind of setting that can be altered, I do not
know, to achieve what he got, slow but functioning. I could not find any
option for this. Not only that but it seemed to lose almost half of my
bookmarks as well.

So unless they fix this on the release version anyone trying to use
Firefox 57 when it comes out with the latest version of nvda, and I am up
to date with the master branch here, will not be able to do so unless
they know how to make it work.
If these people are employees then they will probably need the permission
of an admin to reinstall a version like 55, and turn off auto updates. I
have reinstalled 52 in actual fact and got my bookmarks back as well as
functionality. To my mind the makers of Firefox at the current state of
play should be able to see if screenreading software is on a machine in a
similar way to Adobe reader or Jarte does, and prevent it from updating
to an unworkable version.
I cannot understand why they have not done this.

Anyone care to comment?
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Re: Weather Plus 4.6 03.11.2017 update available

Akbar S. Currim <raahzam@...>
 

Hi,

What is taste debug?

Akbar


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I don't think that log is any help I think you need taste debug to debug not

just info first, then install a version of the add on then use it and take
those bits of the log out and send them to the author.
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Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2017 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather Plus 4.6 03.11.2017 update available


Hi,

I get exactly the same resultwith this version also. It only instals
version of 25-10-2017 and not the new one although I have downloaded
the new version from the links provided by you in your message and
installed the same. I give below the log message which may assist you
in figuring out why this is happening. Hope you can help.

Thanks,

Akbar

Log:
INFO - __main__ (12:01:50.063):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (12:01:50.201):
Config dir: C:\Users\raahz\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (12:01:50.201):
Loading config: C:\Users\raahz\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (12:01:50.334):
NVDA version 2017.3
INFO - core.main (12:01:50.334):
Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation
INFO - core.main (12:01:50.334):
Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016,
20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (12:01:50.334):
Using comtypes version 0.6.2
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (12:01:50.615):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (12:01:50.615):
Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (12:01:50.621):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (12:01:50.621):
Using liblouis version 3.2.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (12:01:50.622):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (12:01:50.660):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (12:01:50.664):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3
INFO - core.main (12:01:52.484):
NVDA initialized


On 11/3/17, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io
<adrianobarb@...> wrote:
Hi to every one,
Changes in this version:
* Improved the reading of current local time; search keys are more
accurate.

Weather Plus can update alone, however, it is possible to download
manually from the following links:
http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus4.6.nvda-addon
or from page:
http://www.nvda.it/weather-plus/
or from page:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/weatherPlus.en.html

Cheers
Adriano





Re: Firefox 57 etc

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That is what I thought, but then I did a check for updates inside it it offered me version 56 which I declined.
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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 57 etc


I thought the whole point of the ESR version was that it would not update to 57 until about June next year, when hopefully the accessibility issues will have improved. According to the FS Blog on this they say that people using ESR will however continue to get the latest security updates installed into Firefox ESR but will not be vulnerable to the main upgrade to 57 until next year.
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Sent: 03 November 2017 18:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 57 etc

Yes I saw a message on the issues list from James, about some fixing for
version 58, so maybe it will get resolved from the currently unusable state.
Its new users of any screenreader I feel sorry for, especially where its a
shared machine and the sighted member just lets firefox update.
There are a couple of other issues. It disabled both my add ons,
navigational sounds and Ublock Origin ad blocker and even when I put the
version 52 back on I had to re download both add ons and install them again.
Not only that but nvda after the update could not read the screen of the add
ons manager, I had to exit firefox completely and go back in again to see
if they had installed correctly, I'm sure this was not the case prior to up
and down dating the version I had, which was 55. How also does one set 52 to
get security updates without letting it update to 57 as I see it wants to do
till I set updates to no, ie not recommended.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 57 etc


Hi, Brian


I have the same issue on the other machine, and that is the reason why I
keep to shift instead to use the Firefox ESR version 52 but for now I will
stick to this version because there is likely more stable in performance
and never has a problem. And, once the issue has fix maybe I could go for
to use and test it again.


Robert Mendoza

On 11/3/2017 6:00 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
With regard to this version of Firefox, and in addition to what Joseph
posted about it. Here is what me acting as the average unaware updater
found.
After installation only the menus work, no content on the page is
readable, you cannot go into any browse or focus mode. You just here
unknown.
Now there may well be some kind of setting that can be altered, I do not
know, to achieve what he got, slow but functioning. I could not find any
option for this. Not only that but it seemed to lose almost half of my
bookmarks as well.

So unless they fix this on the release version anyone trying to use
Firefox 57 when it comes out with the latest version of nvda, and I am up
to date with the master branch here, will not be able to do so unless
they know how to make it work.
If these people are employees then they will probably need the permission
of an admin to reinstall a version like 55, and turn off auto updates. I
have reinstalled 52 in actual fact and got my bookmarks back as well as
functionality. To my mind the makers of Firefox at the current state of
play should be able to see if screenreading software is on a machine in a
similar way to Adobe reader or Jarte does, and prevent it from updating
to an unworkable version.
I cannot understand why they have not done this.

Anyone care to comment?
Brian

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Re: goldwave

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Just now and then you may need to change windows to wake up the add on if it says it does not know the length or whatever though.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] goldwave


Sure does! I've been using Win 10 for a couple years and Goldwave is
right here for me. The add on makes it work all the better so I'd
recommend installing that as well.

Roger








On 11/3/2017 1:13 PM, Arlene wrote:

Hi list. Does Goldwave work with windows ten? If it does. That would
be great.



Re: goldwave

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It should do, indeed even the old version did when I briefly had windows 10. You will though need to make a decision on the amount of processor time the processor intensive bits use, as often if not you can do little else on the machine when the conversions ie batch processing of files, is happening.
This used to be selectable as I recall, not looked in the newer versions, since the old one does all I need and I have the custom effects all set up and saved as registry overlay files.

I still find though that Goldwave has sometimes had issues with some sound drivers, giving a recording of white noise when it fails. often its a case of suck it and see on drivers and goldwave settings that can fix this.
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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 6:13 PM
Subject: [nvda] goldwave


Hi list. Does Goldwave work with windows ten? If it does. That would be
great.


Re: Firefox 57 etc

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Well, I have still some issues after the reinstall as I've said elsewhere. the add on manager shows the add ons as disabled now and I had to remove them and redownload and install them to get them to work and nvda stops reading the add on manager in the middle of this process so I had to restart firefox to see if the installation worked.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Mendoza" <lowvisiontek@...>
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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 57 etc


Hi, Brian


I have the same issue on the other machine, and that is the reason why I keep to shift instead to use the Firefox ESR version 52 but for now I will stick to this version because there is likely more stable in performance and never has a problem. And, once the issue has fix maybe I could go for to use and test it again.


Robert Mendoza

On 11/3/2017 6:00 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
With regard to this version of Firefox, and in addition to what Joseph posted about it. Here is what me acting as the average unaware updater found.
After installation only the menus work, no content on the page is readable, you cannot go into any browse or focus mode. You just here unknown.
Now there may well be some kind of setting that can be altered, I do not know, to achieve what he got, slow but functioning. I could not find any option for this. Not only that but it seemed to lose almost half of my bookmarks as well.

So unless they fix this on the release version anyone trying to use Firefox 57 when it comes out with the latest version of nvda, and I am up to date with the master branch here, will not be able to do so unless they know how to make it work.
If these people are employees then they will probably need the permission of an admin to reinstall a version like 55, and turn off auto updates. I have reinstalled 52 in actual fact and got my bookmarks back as well as functionality. To my mind the makers of Firefox at the current state of play should be able to see if screenreading software is on a machine in a similar way to Adobe reader or Jarte does, and prevent it from updating to an unworkable version.
I cannot understand why they have not done this.

Anyone care to comment?
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Re: Weather Plus 4.6 03.11.2017 update available

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I don't think that log is any help I think you need taste debug to debug not just info first, then install a version of the add on then use it and take those bits of the log out and send them to the author.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Akbar S. Currim" <raahzam@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2017 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather Plus 4.6 03.11.2017 update available


Hi,

I get exactly the same resultwith this version also. It only instals
version of 25-10-2017 and not the new one although I have downloaded
the new version from the links provided by you in your message and
installed the same. I give below the log message which may assist you
in figuring out why this is happening. Hope you can help.

Thanks,

Akbar

Log:
INFO - __main__ (12:01:50.063):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (12:01:50.201):
Config dir: C:\Users\raahz\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (12:01:50.201):
Loading config: C:\Users\raahz\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (12:01:50.334):
NVDA version 2017.3
INFO - core.main (12:01:50.334):
Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation
INFO - core.main (12:01:50.334):
Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016,
20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (12:01:50.334):
Using comtypes version 0.6.2
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (12:01:50.615):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (12:01:50.615):
Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (12:01:50.621):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (12:01:50.621):
Using liblouis version 3.2.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (12:01:50.622):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (12:01:50.660):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (12:01:50.664):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3
INFO - core.main (12:01:52.484):
NVDA initialized


On 11/3/17, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io
<adrianobarb@...> wrote:
Hi to every one,
Changes in this version:
* Improved the reading of current local time; search keys are more
accurate.

Weather Plus can update alone, however, it is possible to download
manually from the following links:
http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus4.6.nvda-addon
or from page:
http://www.nvda.it/weather-plus/
or from page:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/weatherPlus.en.html

Cheers
Adriano


Re: Installing NVDA and disabling some sort of security setting

John Isige
 

No, there's a new thing in the latest Windows 10. I think I still have
the message somewhere or other. It prevents the installer from making a
desktop shortcut and it might give an error or something, but apparently
NVDA runs just fine once it's done, other than not having the desktop
shortcut.

On 11/4/2017 1:47, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi


you are not talking about the UAC screen that comes up when you go to
install a copy of NVDA onto a machine? if this does come up use the
ALT key + letter Y to say yes to it or just tab to it. then NVDA will
finish installing.


Unless a anti virus program does it? then you would have to look in
that virus program and make it a exception


Gene nz

.


On 11/4/2017 11:40 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Recently, I saw a message that talked about the need to disable some sort of security settings in windows 10 when you were installing NVDA. It was a folder I think that you couldn’t get access to and less you disable the setting, and NVDA needs to have that access when it installs. I’ve just spent some time looking through old messages trying to find this and I can’t. Can anybody help me out? I’m sorry to be so vague, but I just can’t find this message.
Mary


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Re: Installing NVDA and disabling some sort of security setting

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Hi


you are not talking about the UAC screen that comes up when you go to install a copy of NVDA onto a machine? if this does come up use the ALT key + letter Y to say yes to it or just tab to it. then NVDA will finish installing.


Unless a anti virus program does it? then you would have to look in that virus program and make it a exception


Gene nz

.


On 11/4/2017 11:40 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Recently, I saw a message that talked about the need to disable some sort of security settings in windows 10 when you were installing NVDA. It was a folder I think that you couldn’t get access to and less you disable the setting, and NVDA needs to have that access when it installs. I’ve just spent some time looking through old messages trying to find this and I can’t. Can anybody help me out? I’m sorry to be so vague, but I just can’t find this message.
Mary


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Re: Weather Plus 4.6 03.11.2017 update available

Akbar S. Currim <raahzam@...>
 

Hi,

I get exactly the same resultwith this version also. It only instals
version of 25-10-2017 and not the new one although I have downloaded
the new version from the links provided by you in your message and
installed the same. I give below the log message which may assist you
in figuring out why this is happening. Hope you can help.

Thanks,

Akbar

Log:
INFO - __main__ (12:01:50.063):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (12:01:50.201):
Config dir: C:\Users\raahz\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (12:01:50.201):
Loading config: C:\Users\raahz\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (12:01:50.334):
NVDA version 2017.3
INFO - core.main (12:01:50.334):
Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation
INFO - core.main (12:01:50.334):
Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016,
20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (12:01:50.334):
Using comtypes version 0.6.2
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (12:01:50.615):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (12:01:50.615):
Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (12:01:50.621):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (12:01:50.621):
Using liblouis version 3.2.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (12:01:50.622):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (12:01:50.660):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (12:01:50.664):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3
INFO - core.main (12:01:52.484):
NVDA initialized


On 11/3/17, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io
<adrianobarb@...> wrote:
Hi to every one,
Changes in this version:
* Improved the reading of current local time; search keys are more
accurate.

Weather Plus can update alone, however, it is possible to download
manually from the following links:
http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus4.6.nvda-addon
or from page:
http://www.nvda.it/weather-plus/
or from page:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/weatherPlus.en.html

Cheers
Adriano