Hi Mary,

Office 2016 is in many ways similar to Office 2013.  NVDA works very well with both, and in a couple of cases, Microsoft have fixed bugs in 2016 so there are some things that work better.  I wrote the official NV Access training material for Microsoft Word and Excel using Office 2016.  The material itself works for Office 2010 to 2016 (I found in more cases I was noting a difference in the behaviour of Office 2010 compared to the other two, rather than a new difference in Office 2016).

If you are interested, our material is available from: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Mary Otten <motten53@...> wrote:

Hi all,
I was just looking on Jean‘s website, Accessibility central.net, and there was a tutorial there for using Microsoft Word with NVDA. It mentioned office 2013. I have a friend who uses a different screen reader, and he also uses 2013. Is 2016 accessible? I hope so, because that seems to be the currently available version.
Mary


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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Luke Kio
Sent: November 8, 2017 4:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Question about typing.

Well the legacy addons are changing to web extentions like chrome is now but the interface is more powerfull.

For me better privacy is gone and also classic themes are gone.

These are no biggies.

Navigational sounds is gone and I really liked that.

The big thing noscript is a hybred in transition to upgrade, ublock is not listed as legacy, neither is privacy badger and https anywhere which are the other 2 I use.

Sadly the navigational sounds stuff is not duplicated in any other addon.

So I suggest before you say its a show stopper you search for items that are going to work.

As another example this is no different from apple switching from 32 to 64 bit apps.

We had time to upgrade our apps and or find what didn't work.

When I switched to 64 bit I found about 5 apps didn't work, my nokia software, graille to the thief, 2 versions of soundrts, and silent steel.

None of these were exactly show stoppers, the nokia one well if I need to run that one, I think I can buypass it or run that in a 32 bit vm or another 32 bit system its not like I need to bother to much the only things I would need a sightling to do is to get the files for talks onto another folder to run if I ever got a new device and to be honest its more than likely with the way things are going with skype, and communications in general as well as what I do with sonnar that I am going to be pushed to a touch device of some description, probably apple for its access and the fact I don't need to modify my device though who knows.



On 9/11/2017 6:34 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

So how come whe I downloaded it and installed it it just said unknown. the checkboxes had not been touched at all?
I think this is the main problem. some get it to work while others say only its menus do not also of course the show stopper for me is add ons as well.
Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 57 from an NVDA user's perspective - Marco's Accessibility Blog

Hi!
I just upgraded to beta 14 of Firefox 57 to get a first-hand impression of
the slowness, or performance issue, that seems to be plaguing early
adopters. While I agree that it seems to be slower where page loading and
general responsiveness are concerned, I also find that stability and
reliability are great, including complex web pages. It takes some getting
used to but isn't altogether an unpleasant experience as it is quite
deterministic.
Greetings,
Felix

Michel Such <michel.such@...> schrieb am Di., 7. Nov. 2017 um 16:43 Uhr:

Very interesting article:

https://www.marcozehe.de/2017/11/07/firefox-57-nvda-users-perspective/


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I guess it might be sortable by a driver update or something, but we have many machines running different flavours of windows and its often hard to know where the fault itself lies. I mean one might be forgiven for thinking that as long as the usb device was connected nothing would alter but that is often not the case for some weird reason. I lost a recording of a meeting like this as it basically disconnected the mixer.
Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Win10 App Essentials.


Thanks Brian.  I guess, just have to put up with it!
Blessings
Pascal

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I've had this happen on a usb sound card going back to internal and this I think is a windows problem not an nvda one, as even the input moves as well as the output.
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Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Win10 App Essentials.


Hi Quentin,

First I would like to thank you for the kind and gentle manner you answer
questions on this list.  Second, (issue previously reported) each time I
update the Win10 App Essentials, my synthesizer defaults to the MSFT Sound
Mapper and I am left without speech.  It is annoying but fixable. However,
I am helping a newly blind person and It is happening on her computer and
the experience is more frustrating.  It usually happens after a reboot.  I
would appreciate someone looks into the issue.

Very much appreciated

Blessings

Pascal



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Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 7:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on sapi 5 problem



Anna should be able to be used by other programs, but if your talk clip
program is loading anna and preventing it from being used by NVDA as well.
If Narrator is able to use Anna where NVDA isn't, maybe it's found a way of
accessing it that we aren't using.



On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Tony James <megatronjames@...
<mailto:megatronjames@...> > wrote:

Hi, I typically use the sapi4 mike voice.  I was actually asking because
another program uses the sapi5 anna voice to generate talk clips for my clip
zip, oh me recently and hasn’t been able to access the anna voice even
though narrator uses her fine.  Is it possible that some setting is blocking
this voice from being used by any other programs?



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Subject: Re: [nvda] update on sapi 5 problem



Hi Tony,



Do you have sluggishness using NVDA with the default eSpeak NG voice?  NVDA
should be able to use most SAPI 5 voices.  Microsoft Anna is a voice that
Microsoft included with Windows 7 and should definitely work.  If you have
commercial software installed which comes with other SAPI 5 voices, it's
possible NVDA may see those but the voice might give an error when you try
to use it.  I've encountered this with programs such as Zoomtext and Talking
Typer.  The issue with those is they install the voices as standard SAPI 5
voices, but then restrict them so that they won't work if being used by a
program other than the one they came with.



Otherwise, do you have any other programs running which may want to use the
SAPI 5 synthesizer?  NVDA can run into problems if another program is trying
to use the same synthesizer at the same time (if they are both running, even
if both are not trying to speak at once).  The workaround is to set one
program to use a different synthesizer.



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 5:57 AM, Tony James <megatronjames@...
<mailto:megatronjames@...> > wrote:

Hi, a while ago I posted about not being able to use SPAI5 with nvda.  last
week I had to launch narrator because nvda was being sluggish and narrator
started without a single problem.  I ran it again a few minutes ago without
a single hitch.  narrator is set to use anna, but i can't seem to use this
voice with any other programs.  does anyone no whats going on?

Hi Michal and all,

Thank you for all your tips.

I don't want to use google docs with Jaws as I use Jaws as a demo and only when I have to, as NVDA is my favourite screen reader.

I did not know the shortcuts you mentionned, they are not listed in google's short cuts I looked at. I will try them.

For your information, google docs works fine when you activate screen reader support with ctrl+alt+Z and braille support.

I also tried it with chrome and it works good with NVDA.

Thanks again, I will try all this.

Best

Sylvie

Le 07/11/2017 à 17:51, Michal Rada a écrit :

And, sure, there are answers to your questions:


1) - try combinations ALT+SHIFT+A, then H, then N - it works. It calls command separratelly by menu levels (Accessibility menu, then Headings, then Next).


2) Try ALT+ENTER - it works for me. But as I say before, try to use headings list by ALT+SHIFT+T, then O. This displays tree with navigation, you can move by arrows up and down and ENTER to jump to heading in document.


Helps?



Dne 7.11.2017 v 17:34 Michal Rada napsal(a):

Hi,

Yes, i working with google office in my office :-D

Documents, Slides and Sheets are fully accessible with Jaws, you must enable accessibility support by keystroke ALT+CTRL+Z, but, it works only in Mozilla Firefox. Other browsers does not work properly.

There are some tips for using documents.

* Moving classical by arrow keys, but CTRL+arrows works too.

* There are many keyboard shortcuts for navigation and using these apps, look here https://support.google.com/docs/answer/179738?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en

* There are basic tips and guides - look here https://support.google.com/docs/answer/1632201?hl=en

* Verry usefull tip is moving by headings - it works with keystrokes ALT+SHIFT+T and O

* Menus are accessible with ALT+SHIFT+letter - for example ALT+SHIFT+F for File menu, etc.

* And, if yoy focussed menu, try TAB and SHIFT+TAB to move to other important controls, tool bars, quick document bar, etc.


Try it, with Firefox its great.

Michal



Dne 7.11.2017 v 12:08 Sylvie Duchateau napsal(a):

Hello all,
I am actually working with somebody on a good structured google doc.
The short cuts list says that you can reach the next heading by pressing ctrl+alt, then n then h.
This is conflicting with the shortcut for starting NVDA.
Going on browse mode and hitting h just goes to the next heading but not to the following.
Do you have any hints on this?
Second, if a document contains a table of content, is there a way to jump to one specific section? Activating a link to this section does not work for me.
thank you for your help.
Best
Sylvie

So how come whe I downloaded it and installed it it just said unknown. the checkboxes had not been touched at all?
I think this is the main problem. some get it to work while others say only its menus do not also of course the show stopper for me is add ons as well.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 57 from an NVDA user's perspective - Marco's Accessibility Blog

Hi!
I just upgraded to beta 14 of Firefox 57 to get a first-hand impression of
the slowness, or performance issue, that seems to be plaguing early
adopters. While I agree that it seems to be slower where page loading and
general responsiveness are concerned, I also find that stability and
reliability are great, including complex web pages. It takes some getting
used to but isn't altogether an unpleasant experience as it is quite
deterministic.
Greetings,
Felix

Michel Such <michel.such@...> schrieb am Di., 7. Nov. 2017 um 16:43 Uhr:

Very interesting article:

https://www.marcozehe.de/2017/11/07/firefox-57-nvda-users-perspective/


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From: Florian Ionașcu

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 1:49 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about using quick books with NVDA

Hello Chris!

Though I've never used QuickBooks, I can help you a bit. There is an NVDA add-on called QuickBooks 2014 Support. It makes QuickBooks more accessible with NVDA. Find out more here. https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/quickBooks2014.en.html

Cheers,

Florian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about using quick books with NVDA

I don't know but our charity is now using this software  and the chair is
visually impaired.
 So if anyone can tell us a good route to go, then please do so. I'm sure I
saw talk on this on the add ons site some months back but it was not an
issue then.
 Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 10:11 AM
Subject: [nvda] Question about using quick books with NVDA


> Good morning everyone.
>
>
>
> I have a client who has just lost most of her vision. She worked as an
> accountant and used a program called quick books. In my experience we have
> had terrible success with screen readers and accounting software in the
> past. Does anyone know if this has changed. Can NVDA be made to work with
> quick books? If not, is there any accounting software that will work with
> NVdA, or any other screen reader? Thanks for any help you can give.
>
>

I have to say I have found master seeker far better at finding a file and

allowing me to copy it than the search in windows explorer.

Brian

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From: "Mary Otten" <motten53@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 3:16 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Apology for NVDA and File Explorer advice

Hi David,

Thank you for making that clarification. Now I am curious whether there are

features in that other program that you recommended that you think make it a

good adjunct to file explorer, things you can’t do at all with FileExplorer,

or can  do more efficiently with that other program.

Mary

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> On Nov 8, 2017, at 7:13 AM, David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> wrote:

> 

> Recently I stated that NVDA was sluggish for me with File Explorer on

> large drives. However I noticed when going through File Explorer settings

> for something else that somehow the Preview Pane option had been turned

> on. I don’t know how this happened as I normally always turn it off.

> Anyway since making this change NVDA has sped up to a perfectly acceptable

> level on File Explorer so I thought I should make this clarification.

> David Griffith

> 

> 

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> My Blind hammer Blog

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