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Re: a question about some buttons on websites.

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

Works for me with windows 7 64 bit, NVDA 2017.3 and latest google chrome.  Had to route the mouse to the button and left click.
 
George
 
From: Arlene
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a question about some buttons on websites.
 

Hi, I’m using windows 7. For me. flash faild to load. I can go to youtube and the clips play. These look like they are from youtube.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ken lawrence via Groups.Io
Sent: November-09-17 5:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] a question about some buttons on websites.

 

Hi friends. Ken here. I have recently found a new cartoons website and I’d love to watch them.  There is a problem and I’m pretty sure it’s asn NVDA issue.  On videos instead of it playing automaticly there is a start playback button.  I hit it with enter, space bar and even move the mouse to focuse on it and  nothing happens.  I have noticed the same thing on submittion buttons on CD baby and a few other sites.  It  is as if there is something inside the button that NVDA can’t quite see.  Can anyone on list take a look at www.b99.tv, search for the flintstones and pick any or the 169 search results and find out what is inside that button that NVDA can’t seem to focuse on and activate it.  It identifies it as a button and as a playback button but can’t activate it. 

 

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nvda and skype

 

Hi.

Well I tried skype latest preview, a lot of it is still not to my liking no contact list and while there is a menu and a few settings and those work well enough everything is behind buttons, no history view and right click menus still do not work.

Luckily it appears for now you can get skype7.

It does appear that new users can't download skype anymore from ms site at least skype7 however even if you have a setup stub the program will download it.

So if you go to oldversion.com and get the latest skype version, you install that one v7 right now 7.16, and then you can update it, it will currently still download skype.

I do think though something needs to be done, skype as it is now can be used the newer one just doesn't work right.

I have made sure that I have coppies of skype latest but I guess we will have to use filehippo to get the latest skype7 as skype 8 is not accessible at all.

It does appear skype7 is no getting anymore updates so at least till that dies well.


How to get native SAPI 5 mobile voices in Win10?

Ketan Kothari
 

Hi friends,

I have Windows 10 home edition and when I change my synthesiser I am
only getting David and Xira voices under SAPI 5 but I have been told
that there are more native voices available with british accent as
well. I am using Windows 10 1703 build. Please do guide me.


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firefox navigational sounds replacement

 

Hi.

had a look for something to replace the out dated navsounds addon.

The most promising is one called noise which appears to have more, more events and aparently more functionality.

So we will have to see, at least thats a start.

The next project to tackle is the cross platform skype upgrade which is chromium based and is full of crazyness not fully accessible to all systems and well its a big web program ug.

I was hoping skype classic would stay.


Re: NVDA Problems with dynamic content

Gene
 

I doubt that does more than the setting in the advanced category in options.  If it does, then the question is, do you want it to do more?  I want to be notified when a page wants to refresh or redirect.  I want the choice of whether to refresh or allow it to redirect or not.  While the setting you are discussing may stop refreshes and also stop the notification, it may just be the same setting.  There are other settings in about:config that are actually the same settings as in the user interface and working with the user interface is another way of changing those settings with exactly the same choices, even if the wording is different.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: J.G
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Problems with dynamic content

Hi,

try in about:config (using firefox obviously) change: accessibility.blockautorefresh to true. default is false.

regards, Jožef


Re: NVDA Problems with dynamic content

Adriani Botez
 

Ok I will try it. Is there also a simmilar setting for internet explorer?


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 10.11.2017 um 02:29 schrieb J.G <jozko.gregorc@...>:

Hi,

try in about:config (using firefox obviously) change: accessibility.blockautorefresh to true. default is false.

regards, Jožef


Re: NVDA Problems with dynamic content

J.G
 

Hi,

try in about:config (using firefox obviously) change: accessibility.blockautorefresh to true. default is false.

regards, Jožef


Re: enhance touch gestures not working

 

Hi,

Can you tell me what’s not working and what version of Windows you’ve got?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of abdul muhamin
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 2:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] enhance touch gestures not working

 

Hi all. I’ve recently downloaded enhance touch gesture addon from https://addons.nvda-project.org/, but its not working, how to activate it? using NVDA 2017.3

 

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head of the content department at
BlindHelp.net

 


Re: NVDA in the workforce and in public institutions

Gene
 

Also, script writers for other screen-readers could put malicious material in scripts.  It's blatantly obvious, when you consider how security is breached in businesses and government and other institutions, that no one is going to waste time targeting screen-readers, with their tiny user base.  Security breaches come from vulnerabilities or from exploiting user ignorance in getting people to open malicious attachments or in users engaging in risky activities out of ignorance or indifference or from negligent I.T. departments.  If those who assess screen-reader security approached the problem rationally, I suspect in general, such fears are based on no knowledge and skepticisism because, well, these small programs for a tiny group, blind people, just can't be trusted, if this were approached rationally, as I said, those worried about security would completely ban anyone opening attachments on pain of being fired, and they would have auditors check to see that their I.T. departments applied security updates rigorously.  Maybe we need laws to this effect. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA in the workforce and in public institutions

Hi everyone,

I agree with what everyone else has said, it would be great to get some more feedback from the library representative on their concerns, and I would be happy to speak with them to discuss those.

Most commonly, concerns are, as others have noted, around misinformed perceptions of "Open Source software".  Assuming they are planning to download the binaries (compiled program) from the NV Access site, then the executable files themselves are inherently no more or less secure than any other piece of software.  Being open source means they are most welcome to peruse the source code and confirm what it contains, whereas with closed source software you have to trust the vendor.

NVDA is regularly run through both online and offline virus and malware scanners and comes back safe.  It only accesses the internet to check for new versions, and only then if you leave that setting checked.  In any case, you can block it from any internet access and it will still work fine, so I'm not sure what else they could expect?

In any case, I'm happy to speak with them to endeavor to allay their concerns.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Sky Mundell <skyt@...> wrote:
Hello All. Today, I was at our monthly technology meeting at a public library here in Victoria, British Columbia, and NVDA was one of the screen reading options discussed to a new participant who had low vision. However, the tech at the library looked at it, and he told the group that it was less secure, and they commented that it was better for home use, rather than in corporate environments. Would NV Access staffers like to comment on this issue, and what can be done to address this issue? Because they were going to settle on the Window-Eyes for office option back when it was being updated, but as we all know it got discontinued and they did look at Window-Eyes as an option and they were more in favour of it due to it not being Open Source. They also did have JAWS for a time but got rid of it due to lack of training and they would have had to spend money to get somebody from FS to train them on it.  Any suggestions you guys could give me would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Sky.







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Re: NVDA in the workforce and in public institutions

Quentin Christensen
 

Also note that we can provide support to the library if that is a concern and again, I'd be happy to discuss the most suitable arrangement for them if they are interested in that.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,

I agree with what everyone else has said, it would be great to get some more feedback from the library representative on their concerns, and I would be happy to speak with them to discuss those.

Most commonly, concerns are, as others have noted, around misinformed perceptions of "Open Source software".  Assuming they are planning to download the binaries (compiled program) from the NV Access site, then the executable files themselves are inherently no more or less secure than any other piece of software.  Being open source means they are most welcome to peruse the source code and confirm what it contains, whereas with closed source software you have to trust the vendor.

NVDA is regularly run through both online and offline virus and malware scanners and comes back safe.  It only accesses the internet to check for new versions, and only then if you leave that setting checked.  In any case, you can block it from any internet access and it will still work fine, so I'm not sure what else they could expect?

In any case, I'm happy to speak with them to endeavor to allay their concerns.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Sky Mundell <skyt@...> wrote:
Hello All. Today, I was at our monthly technology meeting at a public library here in Victoria, British Columbia, and NVDA was one of the screen reading options discussed to a new participant who had low vision. However, the tech at the library looked at it, and he told the group that it was less secure, and they commented that it was better for home use, rather than in corporate environments. Would NV Access staffers like to comment on this issue, and what can be done to address this issue? Because they were going to settle on the Window-Eyes for office option back when it was being updated, but as we all know it got discontinued and they did look at Window-Eyes as an option and they were more in favour of it due to it not being Open Source. They also did have JAWS for a time but got rid of it due to lack of training and they would have had to spend money to get somebody from FS to train them on it.  Any suggestions you guys could give me would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Sky.







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Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 




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Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: NVDA in the workforce and in public institutions

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

I agree with what everyone else has said, it would be great to get some more feedback from the library representative on their concerns, and I would be happy to speak with them to discuss those.

Most commonly, concerns are, as others have noted, around misinformed perceptions of "Open Source software".  Assuming they are planning to download the binaries (compiled program) from the NV Access site, then the executable files themselves are inherently no more or less secure than any other piece of software.  Being open source means they are most welcome to peruse the source code and confirm what it contains, whereas with closed source software you have to trust the vendor.

NVDA is regularly run through both online and offline virus and malware scanners and comes back safe.  It only accesses the internet to check for new versions, and only then if you leave that setting checked.  In any case, you can block it from any internet access and it will still work fine, so I'm not sure what else they could expect?

In any case, I'm happy to speak with them to endeavor to allay their concerns.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Sky Mundell <skyt@...> wrote:
Hello All. Today, I was at our monthly technology meeting at a public library here in Victoria, British Columbia, and NVDA was one of the screen reading options discussed to a new participant who had low vision. However, the tech at the library looked at it, and he told the group that it was less secure, and they commented that it was better for home use, rather than in corporate environments. Would NV Access staffers like to comment on this issue, and what can be done to address this issue? Because they were going to settle on the Window-Eyes for office option back when it was being updated, but as we all know it got discontinued and they did look at Window-Eyes as an option and they were more in favour of it due to it not being Open Source. They also did have JAWS for a time but got rid of it due to lack of training and they would have had to spend money to get somebody from FS to train them on it.  Any suggestions you guys could give me would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Sky.







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Re: a question about some buttons on websites.

Arlene
 

Hey there: Got the site to work. I tried it with firefox. It works like a charm.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ken lawrence via Groups.Io
Sent: November-09-17 5:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] a question about some buttons on websites.

 

Hi friends. Ken here. I have recently found a new cartoons website and I’d love to watch them.  There is a problem and I’m pretty sure it’s asn NVDA issue.  On videos instead of it playing automaticly there is a start playback button.  I hit it with enter, space bar and even move the mouse to focuse on it and  nothing happens.  I have noticed the same thing on submittion buttons on CD baby and a few other sites.  It  is as if there is something inside the button that NVDA can’t quite see.  Can anyone on list take a look at www.b99.tv, search for the flintstones and pick any or the 169 search results and find out what is inside that button that NVDA can’t seem to focuse on and activate it.  It identifies it as a button and as a playback button but can’t activate it. 

 

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Re: NVDA and office 2016

Quentin Christensen
 

Michael, do you mean it used to speak comments and now it isn't?  If so, do you know when it changed?  And are you in the Office Insiders or using the regular stable version of Office?

I'm not on a machine with Office 2016 currently but I'll have a look this afternoon, certainly, it worked for me last time I tried.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 2:36 AM, Michal Rada <michal@...> wrote:
Yes, but, there are some minor changes.

For example new quick search for menus, by ALT+2 keyboard

Unfortunatelly, in Word 2016, it does not speak comments curently. I dont know if there is bug of NVDA or in Word.

Michal


Dne 8.11.2017 v 23:42 Mary Otten napsal(a):
Hi all,
I was just looking on Jean‘s website, Accessibility central.net, and there was a tutorial there for using Microsoft Word with NVDA. It mentioned office 2013. I have a friend who uses a different screen reader, and he also uses 2013. Is 2016 accessible? I hope so, because that seems to be the currently available version.
Mary


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Re: ALT Text character limit

Quentin Christensen
 

The technical answer to Brunella's question is that no, there is no technical limit to the amount of alt+text NVDA can read.

In any case, personally, my preference is to have the bulk of the important information in the body of text itself, and the image alt text then be a more concise description of the image / chart / etc.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Brunella Chiarugi <spimpi@...> wrote:
Hi!

Thanks a lot!
This is of great help! :)

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:35 AM, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hello.
just press nvdadown arrow key and nvda reads text entirely.
if you use web browsers and want to set amount of characters in one
line, you can set it in nvda preferences and brows mode.
hope that help, God bless you all!

On 11/9/17, Brunella Chiarugi <spimpi@...> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Is there a pre-set maximum limit of characters the screen reader can read
> in an ALT Text?
> In other words, what's the maximum length of an ALT Text that NVDA
> supports?
>
> Thanks!
>


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Re: Spellchecker Microsoft office word 2017

Quentin Christensen
 

The task pane is set out a bit differently.  When a new error is found during spell check, press NVDA+numpad 4 (in laptop layout press NVDA+shift+left arrow) to move to the previous object.  This will read the misspelt word.  To read the surrounding sentence, press escape to return to the document, which brings the focus to the misspelt word, then you can read the line or surrounding text.  Press F6 or F7 to get back into the spell check pane and continue checking.

There is more information on spell check and accompanying activities, in the "Microsoft Word with NVDA" training material, available from: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 6:57 PM, Jo Collingwood <jo.thorpesalvin@...> wrote:
Can anyone tell me how to make the wrongly spelt word in spellchecker be announced before moving to suggestions please? On office 10 NVDA read the word and sentence so you knew which word was highlighted in the dialogue box. I’ve tried read current line, say word , spell word but nothing reads so my student doesn’t know which word he is correcting at the time. The layout is different too as are the shortcuts for change and ignore




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Speak Password

Andrea Sherry
 

This does not work on my system.

Using NVDA 17.3

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit

Firefox - latest stable version.

Any ideas?

Andrea

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enhance touch gestures not working

abdul muhamin
 

Hi all. I’ve recently downloaded enhance touch gesture addon from https://addons.nvda-project.org/, but its not working, how to activate it? using NVDA 2017.3

 

regards, Abdulmuhamin Yousaf!
head of the content department at
BlindHelp.net

 


Re: a question about some buttons on websites.

Kim Crawford
 



I’m not near a computer with NVDA right now but I did just try it with my iOS device with an iPhone and the only button on there is the play pause or stop button and if you hit it in place it in it’s kind of near the top of the screen so if you could either play but you have to cut us OK I did it when I scrolled up in the bottom of the screen when I scroll down I couldn’t find it when I went on the page so I went reverse and one from the bottom of the page because it was easy to find if I can find out from the top it was hidden away so I when I went backwards from the bottom of the springs it was actually easier find that way and I have the button and played it which was fine and then you had to get in apposite or you just close that page out is what I knew to do the same way with Safari now I’m assuming at work with me with NVDA but I don’t know because I’mSent from my iPhone

On Nov 9, 2017, at 5:13 AM, ken lawrence via Groups.Io <kenlawrence124@...> wrote:

Hi friends. Ken here. I have recently found a new cartoons website and I’d love to watch them.  There is a problem and I’m pretty sure it’s asn NVDA issue.  On videos instead of it playing automaticly there is a start playback button.  I hit it with enter, space bar and even move the mouse to focuse on it and  nothing happens.  I have noticed the same thing on submittion buttons on CD baby and a few other sites.  It  is as if there is something inside the button that NVDA can’t quite see.  Can anyone on list take a look at www.b99.tv, search for the flintstones and pick any or the 169 search results and find out what is inside that button that NVDA can’t seem to focuse on and activate it.  It identifies it as a button and as a playback button but can’t activate it. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: NVDA in the workforce and in public institutions

 

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 12:28 am, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I couldn't load anything bar jaws at university.
And that's the time when waving around the ADA like a baseball bat is called for.  I have moved mountains in regard to getting "we can't do that" software installed by invoking reasonable accommodations and ADA compliance.

It is very, very difficult for most academic and commercial settings to justify refusing to install any well-known proprietary or open-source solution for accessibility when the case is made that it is necessary.  If they do refuse, then you get the disabilities coordinator involved in universities and HR involved in businesses.

Just from a pure PR perspective it looks horrible for institutions that refuse reasonable accommodations via technology.

Of course, with the advent of Windows 10 and the ongoing ascendance of Narrator, some places could refuse third party tools (particularly the cost them something) when the functional equivalent is provided with the OS itself.
 
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Re: a question about some buttons on websites.

John Isige
 

Firefox 56.0.2 64-bit, NVDA 2017.3, Windows 64-bit 1709 or the latest update. Works fine for me. I had to allow the main site and something called jwplatform.com before the player showed up, in case you're disabling scripts for security. The video player kind of jumps around, I had to arrow through it a couple of times to find the play button once it was running for example, that's also how you pause it, but once I enabled those two scripts I just found it and hit space on the play button, no problem.

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