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Re: renaming a formatted thumb drive

Dan Beaver
 

Hi,


You change its' label.  There is a DOS label command you can use or you can do it by changing it in the properties of the drive.


Dan Beaver


On 11/12/2017 3:37 PM, Arlene wrote:

hIHi list. I had a thumb drive become corrupted and I had to format it. How does one rename it? I’m senile. I tried not to do it but it wanted to be formatted. So I did it. How does one rename it again? Thanks any help will be appriciated



renaming a formatted thumb drive

Arlene
 

hIHi list. I had a thumb drive become corrupted and I had to format it. How does one rename it? I’m senile. I tried not to do it but it wanted to be formatted. So I did it. How does one rename it again? Thanks any help will be appriciated


Re: do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?

Deborah Armstrong <debee@...>
 

I missed the beginning of this thread, but for nearly twenty years I've just loved TotalRecorder. Even its video recording ability is pretty accessible and the documentation is superb. It has run on everything from Windows 98 up to Windows 10 and will record with external Mic, external dubbing cable (sometimes called Aux or patchcord.) and of course will record audio from the PC. It's most popular for recording internet radio but I use it for much more.


You need to pay a small fee to continue to use it; there are several versions, each costing more and offering more features. And it's easier to use, if you really do read the documentation. But it's completely accessible, no dialogs or screens that a screen reader fails to let you review. It can even record your screen reader, or not, as you prefer. And I paid $10 for it twenty years ago and still get fantastic support. You pay for it only once.


--Debee


Re: using form fields in word

Adriani Botez
 

NVDA


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 12.11.2017 um 20:57 schrieb enes sarıbaş <enes.saribas@...>:

hi,

Is this an issue of nvda or word?


On 11/12/2017 9:51 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:
Dear Enes,

unfortunately there are lots of things which have to be improved with respect to formfields and macros in MS Word, Excel and so on. At the moment the only possibility is to navigate by arrow key. When you press left or right key you will here when the formfield starts and when it ends. I you hear for example "edit Enes" and if you press right you will here "Edit E". This is for the design Rhea. If you chose design Galathea, you will here when pressing right arrow next to a field "edit left bracket". When you here these you can start typing.

In design galathea you will not hear left bracket after you have typed something in the formfield. You will hear what you have typed in.


As far as navigation keys are concerned, there is now an issue on github about flexible browse mode which would allow you to attribute your needed functions to a preferred key in browse mode. As of now, MS Word does not support form related navigation key like in Firefox or other browsers. But let's hope that the issue will be solved in the near future.


Best
Adriani


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does anyone know anything about this? This is urgent.


On 11/12/2017 5:06 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
hi all,

I need to create a CV in microsoft word. I am using the resume
templet in word for this. However, I cannot access the edit fields.
When tabbing through the document with browse mode on, I hear a ding
sound. Additionally, all edit fields appear to be on a single line.
Attempting to tab in forms mode in an edit field just inserts a tab
character. Furthermore, pressing e in browse mode just says
unsupported in this document. How can I manage this with nvda? Doesn't
nvda support this functionality?










Re: using form fields in word

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,

Is this an issue of nvda or word?

On 11/12/2017 9:51 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:
Dear Enes,

unfortunately there are lots of things which have to be improved with respect to formfields and macros in MS Word, Excel and so on. At the moment the only possibility is to navigate by arrow key. When you press left or right key you will here when the formfield starts and when it ends. I you hear for example "edit Enes" and if you press right you will here "Edit E". This is for the design Rhea. If you chose design Galathea, you will here when pressing right arrow next to a field "edit left bracket". When you here these you can start typing.

In design galathea you will not hear left bracket after you have typed something in the formfield. You will hear what you have typed in.


As far as navigation keys are concerned, there is now an issue on github about flexible browse mode which would allow you to attribute your needed functions to a preferred key in browse mode. As of now, MS Word does not support form related navigation key like in Firefox or other browsers. But let's hope that the issue will be solved in the near future.


Best
Adriani


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An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] using form fields in word

does anyone know anything about this? This is urgent.


On 11/12/2017 5:06 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
hi all,

I need to create a CV in microsoft word. I am using the resume
templet in word for this. However, I cannot access the edit fields.
When tabbing through the document with browse mode on, I hear a ding
sound. Additionally, all edit fields appear to be on a single line.
Attempting to tab in forms mode in an edit field just inserts a tab
character. Furthermore, pressing e in browse mode just says
unsupported in this document. How can I manage this with nvda? Doesn't
nvda support this functionality?








Re: NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

 

Its the curse of laptops and brought desktops.

The only good thing is after you go through it, most of the software on your laptop you probably need.

I cleared mcafee antivirus off the one my aunt got, the backup software, and the game software but everything else ran with the laptop.

I also cleared trials of office and other junk but its not as bad as you'd think.

To be honest though if I brought a system I'd like it to have if it needed software bundled at all, and to be honest bundeled software which reduces the price to something I can afford well I'll take it.

However I really wish one day I'd turn on my laptop and find it full of bundled stuff that I may use or may even buy.

I have goldwave but heck if I got soundforge, reeper, some accessible game engines, and maybe few other things including nice image backup software, maybe a subscription to a technology magazine that is remotely interesting in some accessible format but no wishfull thinking.

The good thing though is with a lot of laptop makers and when you buy you scrole down the page and they tell you what is installed.

It used to be that they were just giving you stuff loaded with who knows what.

You can accept it or not.

In the end I only got rid of stuff I wouldn't use, clickfree, mcafee, wild tangent games, and office the rest was actually usefull stuff.

There was their dropbox but I had one myself but even so.

On 12/11/2017 10:21 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Unfortunately increasingly these days they keep a hidden partition and restore from there but this leaves all the crap that many shops ship with the machine as a sponsorship deal to keep the selling price down. In the end the money you pay attach to take it all off is better spent with a local shop you know and trust who can just put on what you ask for not the entire contents of the software store as demos.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down


Well the uac can be.

To be honest when I get a system like this I just do a reformat and load things myself and test, test, test.

Usually when I load my configs it doesn't do that.

If it does its bios, drivers or both.

The issue is when I have to deal with user software which gets in the way.

I can do it that way but it takes longer, and costs the client and myself more time.

I'd prefur to just reformat and reinstall windows and then I have an easier time.

Ofcause after that loading each bit of software at a time will eventually yeald the error.

9 times out of 10 at that stage its new or updated software.

And if it gets to that state I use google.

Sometimes a user needs a function and then just cracks software that needs it or installs malware full software to get it working.

At that point I just ask them for the function and then I can google that.

There is enough free opensource or low cost software that I either find the entire package or the modules I need and if I am lucky a wrapper front end to put them together.

The issue is then to convince the user to use said software.

I would to be honest ask the tech what stuff is on there.

ANd just get it reformatted and ask to get its hardware tested the unit cleaned, sure its going to cost a bit but you have already got it in the shop and are generating costs so get it done.

I have just had a system revived that stopped working the entire os crashed, the system died.

Regreasing the syncs, clearing the dust and replacing the power supply and all small fans and its up.




On 12/11/2017 8:55 a.m., Mary Otten wrote:
I have this new machine and it has NVDA on it. But in Vda  does not load at start up. We are having some problems with the machine, and my husband thought he had narrowed it down to stuff screwing up when you restart rather than shutting down the machine. Anyway, with NVDA not loaded when the machine is shutting down, occasionally will hang up and e speak will start talking. That is not the synthesizer I have selected. But it does talk. And it is happened on a few occasions. When he took it back to the store to let the tech look at it, it did that once, and now the tech is blaming the whole thing on NVDA. I’m sure that’s not correct, but I don’t know what to tell them.
Mary


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Re: Beware latest CD Burner XP

 

Actually people do have a choice they even have an msi installer.

What I really hated and what made me switch from free dvdvideosoft and cdex was it was all I had.

I am sure its a way to get funds, but I would have been happy to get a demo and pay 20 bucks or 10 for the privilage to use the program I wanted and not have this loading.

Its loaded so much stuff extra software and most of it not usefull some down right dangerous and the rest well it can wreck your system.

And opencandy in x program usually means I don't use x program.

In the early days I used to use a program called universal extracter I would get x software, get universal extracter to pull the file appart locate the innosetup file, then clear out the addware and extra tools then rebundle things.

But I don't have that program and becides its an extra step.

On 12/11/2017 9:57 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I would though remind people that in this case they do have an unbundled installer on their web site.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Beware latest CD Burner XP


The vile practice of bundling is gaining steam and I am under no illusion it will slow down, ever.

That's why I use Unchecky, even though I try to assiduously catch this stuff manually, it has sometimes slipped by.

For those interested in Unchecky: http://unchecky.com ( http://unchecky.com ) and the changelog for their releases: https://unchecky.com/changelog ( https://unchecky.com/changelog )
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Re: using form fields in word

Adriani Botez
 

Dear Enes,

unfortunately there are lots of things which have to be improved with respect to formfields and macros in MS Word, Excel and so on. At the moment the only possibility is to navigate by arrow key. When you press left or right key you will here when the formfield starts and when it ends. I you hear for example "edit Enes" and if you press right you will here "Edit E". This is for the design Rhea. If you chose design Galathea, you will here when pressing right arrow next to a field "edit left bracket". When you here these you can start typing.

In design galathea you will not hear left bracket after you have typed something in the formfield. You will hear what you have typed in.


As far as navigation keys are concerned, there is now an issue on github about flexible browse mode which would allow you to attribute your needed functions to a preferred key in browse mode. As of now, MS Word does not support form related navigation key like in Firefox or other browsers. But let's hope that the issue will be solved in the near future.


Best
Adriani


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von enes saribas
Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. November 2017 19:13
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] using form fields in word

does anyone know anything about this? This is urgent.

On 11/12/2017 5:06 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
hi all,

I need to create a CV in microsoft word. I am using the resume
templet in word for this. However, I cannot access the edit fields.
When tabbing through the document with browse mode on, I hear a ding
sound. Additionally, all edit fields appear to be on a single line.
Attempting to tab in forms mode in an edit field just inserts a tab
character. Furthermore, pressing e in browse mode just says
unsupported in this document. How can I manage this with nvda? Doesn't
nvda support this functionality?




Re: Situation of need for another programmer for NVDA, was NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

 

that was my error I should have changed the subject line

I'm sorry

On 11/12/2017 2:11 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I don't know but this has nothing to do with the problem here. its a simple issue of failing startup or shutdown of a machine and nvda is unlikely to be the cause of that.

Brian


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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down


I hope nvda doesn't began to die now that the main developer has left
does any one know if they found a replacement developer?

On 11/11/2017 12:55 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I have this new machine and it has NVDA on it. But in Vda  does not load at start up. We are having some problems with the machine, and my husband thought he had narrowed it down to stuff screwing up when you restart rather than shutting down the machine. Anyway, with NVDA not loaded when the machine is shutting down, occasionally will hang up and e speak will start talking. That is not the synthesizer I have selected. But it does talk. And it is happened on a few occasions. When he took it back to the store to let the tech look at it, it did that once, and now the tech is blaming the whole thing on NVDA. I’m sure that’s not correct, but I don’t know what to tell them.
Mary


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Re: using form fields in word

enes sarıbaş
 

does anyone know anything about this? This is urgent.

On 11/12/2017 5:06 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
hi all,

I need to create a CV  in microsoft word. I am using the resume templet in word for this. However, I cannot access the edit fields. When tabbing through the document with browse mode on, I hear a ding sound. Additionally, all edit fields appear to be on a single line. Attempting to tab in forms mode in an edit field just inserts a tab character. Furthermore, pressing e in browse mode just says unsupported in this document. How can I manage this with nvda? Doesn't nvda support  this functionality?



Re: do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?

Gene
 

There is no pause.  You stop by just pressing the space bar.  you play with just the space bar.  You save the file with control w.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?

hi again.
how should i stop recording, pause recording or save the recorded
files after finishing?
thanks brian, gene and roger for your help and God bless all.

On 11/12/17, Roger Stewart <paganus2@...> wrote:
> You should get the lame-enc.dll file and just put it into the mp3 direct
> cut folder and that will do it.
>
> Roger
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> On 11/12/2017 4:48 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
>> Looks to me like you would need to download the latest lame mp3 full
>> library to record in mp3. Not sure but just a quick read of the manual
>> suggests there is a record button and as I do not see one despite
>> setting the hardware to my sound card and only lame playback I can
>> deduce this is probably the case. If others disagree, do let us know.
>> Brian
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>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 10:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free
>> audio recorder?
>>
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>>> What system are you running it on? I'd have thought, like many of
>>> these programs they have to know what to record from in the first
>>> place so there should be some kind of set up system for it. I've not
>>> used it myself, but xp sound and 7 sound and later work in different
>>> ways, which is why quickmix won't work after XP.
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> bglists@...
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>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 7:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and
>>> free audio recorder?
>>>
>>>
>>> hi again every one specially gene and roger.
>>> thanks extremely for your help, mp3 direct cut is exactly the software
>>> that i need.
>>> but the only problem for me is i cant record anything.
>>> i only can delete the unnecessary part of my sounds.
>>> what should i do to record mp3 with it?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/12/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>>> But all the person wants to do is work with MP3 files.  Audacity is
>>>> a more
>>>> complex program and just for recording and editing MP3 files, MP3
>>>> direct Cut
>>>> is a bettter choice.
>>>>
>>>> Gene
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>> From: Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:05 PM
>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and
>>>> free audio
>>>> recorder?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> for me, I would use audicity
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Gene 於 12/11/2017 4:40 寫道:
>>>>
>>>>   Mp3 Direct Cut meets all your requirements.
>>>>
>>>>   Gene
>>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
>>>>   Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 1:37 PM
>>>>   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>>   Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and
>>>> free
>>>> audio recorder?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Depends what you call simple. Many do record but as often when you
>>>> do this
>>>>
>>>>   you next need to edit the files, then I'd still use a program like
>>>> audacity
>>>>   or if you can afford a little beit Goldwave.
>>>>    There is virtual recorder but not tested it on XP as I think its
>>>> aimed at
>>>>
>>>>   those with sound cards that you cannot record streams from etc.
>>>>
>>>>   If you have a mobile phone, just press record is your thing.
>>>>    Brian
>>>>
>>>>   bglists@...
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>>>>   briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
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>>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>   From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
>>>>   To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>>   Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 6:46 PM
>>>>   Subject: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free
>>>> audio
>>>>   recorder?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   > hello every one.
>>>>   > i need one program which can record mp3, be freeware or opensource,
>>>>   > safe, reliable, simple to use, supports all windows versions
>>>> since xp,
>>>>   > accessible and if possible, without extra software offering.
>>>>   > except jetaudio that i realy cant use, please help me.
>>>>   > God bless you all!
>>>>   >
>>>>   > --
>>>>   > we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
>>>>   > holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>>>>   > in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
>>>>   > indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of
>>>> salvation.
>>>>   > best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>>>>   > www.al-islam.org
>>>>   >
>>>>   >
>>>>   >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
>>> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>>> in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
>>> indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
>>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>>> www.al-islam.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org




Re: NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

Mary Otten <motten53@...>
 

Hi all,
I put the screen readers on the machine. And I’m the one who checked that NVDA should not load the logon or at after start up. I heard NVDA announce the proper setting for those checkboxes in NVDA preferences. So if it set to load at the logon screen, it did that magically, and I’ve never really believed in magic. Smile. I’ll have to wait until the machine comes home and then I can recheck everything. But I know what I set up.
Mary


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On Nov 12, 2017, at 1:56 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:

The big question here is who put the screenreaders on the machine in the first place.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down


If you don't have something load at login and after login, you may miss error messages. You should have something start and if you don't want to use it, you can unload it and run something else. But having a machine be silent at the login screen and silent after you log in is a bad idea. Also, I'm not sure what is occurring but it may have been a mistake to take the computer to the store rather than discuss the problem here first. E-Speak comes with NVDA but it just doesn't speak. It speaks at times when NVDA is running. Something is occurring and we don't know what yet.

Gene
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From: Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 5:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down


OK. But he doesn’t have an account on the machine. So far as I know, I am the only one, administrator. And I do not have NVDA set to load either at logon or at start up or I should say after start up. I have a couple of screen readers on the machine. And I don’t want any of them loading until I say which one, or maybe I just want to load kurzweil. So nothing like that is loading and I am the only account.
Mary


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On Nov 11, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:

There are 2 settings related to NVDA, when a log-on/secure screen is displayed and after a user logs into Windows. If any NVDA user has a profile in which the setting for log-on/secure screens is selected, those screens will be spoken irrespective of whether a particular user has NVDA loaded when working in their own Windows user account or not. For example if both you and your husband have a user account on the computer, you are an an NVDA user but your husband is not. If your husband logs into his account, NVDA is not loaded but if he logs out, Windows will load NVDA so the log in screen will be spoken to enable you to log-in if you so wish.

Cheers
Chris



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: 11 November 2017 22:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

OK, but why would it talk if it’s not loaded? If it’s never been started up, shouldn’t it stay silent?
Mary


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On Nov 11, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:

Hi
When the Windows log-in and lock screen come into play, a Different NVDA profile is used to the one related to your user-id and it may be this that is providing speech during the shut-down process. Unless you specifically copy a modified profile across for system usage, it will use the default synth which is E-speak.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mary Otten
Sent: 11 November 2017 19:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a
problem with shut down

I have this new machine and it has NVDA on it. But in Vda does not load at start up. We are having some problems with the machine, and my husband thought he had narrowed it down to stuff screwing up when you restart rather than shutting down the machine. Anyway, with NVDA not loaded when the machine is shutting down, occasionally will hang up and e speak will start talking. That is not the synthesizer I have selected. But it does talk. And it is happened on a few occasions. When he took it back to the store to let the tech look at it, it did that once, and now the tech is blaming the whole thing on NVDA. I’m sure that’s not correct, but I don’t know what to tell them.
Mary


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Re: NVDA in the workforce and in public institutions

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

Narrator isn't able to compete with any other solution for windows or any other operating system for that matter. It's getting better, and I think it will have to become definitive eventually in order to support the new paradigm. I guess I am a bit predjudiced against it because it's been ineffective for so long, but really, that's the fault of the blind community at large and the AT companies. As I understand it, Microsoft received huge pushback against narrator when it was in design in the late 90's and early 2000's.

Windows magnifier is a very effective product, and the keyboard accessibility options work very well also.

Who knows where new paradigm accessibility would be now if we had been less selfish and more visionary twenty years ago.

It sure is a different world now.

Best,

Erik

On November 12, 2017 10:55:33 AM "Steve Nutt" <steve@...> wrote:

Hang on a sec. Isn't Narrator some form of accessibility? You can now
install Windows from a DVD with Narrator running.

So you can't say Windows doesn't come with accessibility, not now anyway.

All the best

Steve

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik
burggraaf
Sent: 11 November 2017 18:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA in the workforce and in public institutions

Hi Mike, I live in Ontario. I am not a lawyer, or a legislature, however, I
think I'm pretty familiar with the accessibility legislation we have here.
There is nothing as far as I know in the accessibility legislation that says
that accommodations need to be insured. I could be wrong. Feel free to
correct me.

Dolphin maybe trying to move itself in, but right now, we are looking at an
accessibility situation here that involves Freedom Scientific Jaws for
Windows, and non-visual desktop access nvda. The people who own and develop
Jaws are motivated by money. As soon as Jaws stops being a financially
viable product, it will cease to be developed and produced. At that point,
the government will not be able to purchase it, because it won't be
available for sale. Government offices will probably be the final holdouts
in the great switch, but at some point technology will force them to do the
right thing, even if they manage to hold out against employee and user
demands.
Although government is ridiculously slow to change, governments were the
first early adopters of the mobile platforms in the late 90s and early 2000.
Mobile technologies and their accessibility Solutions are the way of the
future. Because of what first Apple, and then Google have done, governments
are already issuing devices to their employees with disabilities where
accessibility already comes standard. In fact, Windows is currently the only
platform where accessibility does not come standard.
At some point, accessible procurement may be a factor in governments finally
switching either to a different desktop platform, or two entire mobile
platforms. Of course, they will resist this change, but there are two
inexorable factors. First, user demand. Accommodation legislation is usually
worded in such a way that if a user asks for a specific accommodation, that
has to be taken into consideration. Second, you can't buy something that
isn't on the market. As demand for Windows decreases, so too will the demand
for Jaws for Windows, and as I said, they will not continue to produce
something they can't sell. Come talk to me in another 3 or 4 years.



On November 11, 2017 1:08:23 PM "Mike and Jenna" <schwaltze@...>
wrote:

Lol You better have a long talk with the top guys at the government as they
do not follow your logic. They want software that comes from insured
companys and other things like that nvda could never afford to be insured
like that here in Canada or the use. There is many reasons that nvda will
not be part of the government unless somethings changes and money is raised
to get them insured over here. Also that still wouldn't work as they need to
be insured every year. There is nothing that holds nvda labial if something
goes wrong like there is with freedom.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik
burggraaf
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 11:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA in the workforce and in public institutions

Hi Steve, anyone can alter the code of an open source project, true. a what
I fail to understand is, how is this an inherent ecurity concern? The
altered code must be installed in order to do what you author it to do. You
can blow up the code five ways from Sunday, but if you are installing
official builds, no one will ever see your damaged code. In theory, I
suppose someone could hack the update server, place a damaged update into
the update queue, and roll it out to other computers. I have to say though,
I think that's a very very miniscule risk.

Administrators of public computer systems generally lock things down, so
that users cannot get access to the program files folder, the windows
folder, and other critical system functions. Users can not simply walk up
and install anything they want, regardless of whether it is open source or
not. If your systems are secure, and the Distribution Systems for the
software are secure, and the policies you operate under are secure, then
regardless of whether the software is open source or not, the entire
procedure should be secure.

If you are a foolish administrator, allowing users to install things
willy-nilly on public computers, then there is a very high risk of that
someone will go to virusladengames.com, and download a bunch of crap to the
computer. I would consider this a much greater risk, then securely
installing open source software to provide accessibility.

Unless I am greatly missing something, I submit that installing code from an
unknown source is a security risk, but the innate ability to modify code is
not.



On November 10, 2017 10:42:26 AM "Steve Nutt" <steve@...> wrote:

Hi,

I would have thought the security aspect is obvious. Since it is open
source, anyone has access to the code, and anyone can alter it. So I can
understand workplace concerns.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bhavya
shah
Sent: 09 November 2017 06:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA in the workforce and in public institutions

Hi Sky,
Before we debate the security of NVDA, I think we need to get the case of
the library representative clarified. Firstly, what are the bases of this
assertion that NVDA is less secure? Secondly, assuming that the claimant has
the requisite technical knowhow, has he perused NVDA's source code to
substantiate this claim? Thirdly, are there any specific security
vulnerabilities or exploits present in NVDA that he can point us to?
Unless the library representative can provide cogent responses to the above
questions, or strengthen his claim by concrete evidence, I would dismiss
such a comment as a misinformed and groundless one which holds no water.
Thanks.

On 11/9/17, Sky Mundell <skyt@...> wrote:
Hello All. Today, I was at our monthly technology meeting at a public
library here in Victoria, British Columbia, and NVDA was one of the
screen reading options discussed to a new participant who had low
vision. However, the tech at the library looked at it, and he told the
group that it was less secure, and they commented that it was better
for home use, rather than in corporate environments. Would NV Access
staffers like to comment on this issue, and what can be done to
address this issue? Because they were going to settle on the
Window-Eyes for office option back when it was being updated, but as
we all know it got discontinued and they did look at Window-Eyes as an
option and they were more in favour of it due to it not being Open
Source. They also did have JAWS for a time but got rid of it due to
lack of training and they would have had to spend money to get
somebody from FS to train them on it. Any suggestions you guys could
give me would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Sky.





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Re: Beware latest CD Burner XP

Brice Mijares
 

Have you tried looking at
Ninite.com

On 11/12/2017 1:55 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
In the case of the offered cddb as offered it is in fact impossible to install normally as the bit hat tries to get you to install stuff is, in itself inaccessible so you simply go around in circles with no obvious way to get past the offer. This was what they used to have before, and what they had actually fixed more recently, but seemingly have regressed again.
I have now downloaded unchcky, so we shall see what it does. I do hope it does not mess with checkboxes in things like K-Lite where you set it so some items are used and others not.
Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Beware latest CD Burner XP
The vile practice of bundling is gaining steam and I am under no illusion it will slow down, ever.
That's why I use Unchecky, even though I try to assiduously catch this stuff manually, it has sometimes slipped by.
For those interested in Unchecky: http://unchecky.com ( http://unchecky.com ) and the changelog for their releases: https://unchecky.com/changelog ( https://unchecky.com/changelog )
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Re: do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audiorecorder?

David Griffith
 

Yes I have the same question pressing R and then space starts the recording but pressing space and r again does not seem to stop it. Certainly not in a way that Mp3DirectCut will recognise as anything to save with control W.

 

Unfortunatley the manual seems unclear on this  as well telling you how to start but not, in the bit I looked in on how to stop or pause.

David Griffith

 

 

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From: zahra
Sent: 12 November 2017 16:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audiorecorder?

 

hi again.

how should i stop recording, pause recording or save the recorded

files after finishing?

thanks brian, gene and roger for your help and God bless all.

 

On 11/12/17, Roger Stewart <paganus2@...> wrote:

> You should get the lame-enc.dll file and just put it into the mp3 direct

> cut folder and that will do it.

> Roger

> On 11/12/2017 4:48 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

>> Looks to me like you would need to download the latest lame mp3 full

>> library to record in mp3. Not sure but just a quick read of the manual

>> suggests there is a record button and as I do not see one despite

>> setting the hardware to my sound card and only lame playback I can

>> deduce this is probably the case. If others disagree, do let us know.

>> Brian

>> 

>> bglists@...

>> Sent via blueyonder.

>> Please address personal email to:-

>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

>> in the display name field.

>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian's Mail list account via

>> Groups.Io" <bglists@...>

>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 10:02 AM

>> Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free

>> audio recorder?

>> 

>> 

>>> What system are you running it on? I'd have thought, like many of

>>> these programs they have to know what to record from in the first

>>> place so there should be some kind of set up system for it. I've not

>>> used it myself, but xp sound and 7 sound and later work in different

>>> ways, which is why quickmix won't work after XP.

>>> Brian

>>> 

>>> bglists@...

>>> Sent via blueyonder.

>>> Please address personal email to:-

>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

>>> in the display name field.

>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>

>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>>> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 7:01 AM

>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and

>>> free audio recorder?

>>> 

>>> 

>>> hi again every one specially gene and roger.

>>> thanks extremely for your help, mp3 direct cut is exactly the software

>>> that i need.

>>> but the only problem for me is i cant record anything.

>>> i only can delete the unnecessary part of my sounds.

>>> what should i do to record mp3 with it?

>>> 

>>> 

>>> On 11/12/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

>>>> But all the person wants to do is work with MP3 files.  Audacity is

>>>> a more

>>>> complex program and just for recording and editing MP3 files, MP3

>>>> direct Cut

>>>> is a bettter choice.

>>>> 

>>>> Gene

>>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>>> 

>>>> From: Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William

>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:05 PM

>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and

>>>> free audio

>>>> recorder?

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> for me, I would use audicity

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> Gene 12/11/2017 4:40 寫道:

>>>> 

>>>>   Mp3 Direct Cut meets all your requirements.

>>>> 

>>>>   Gene

>>>>   ----- Original Message -----

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>>   From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

>>>>   Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 1:37 PM

>>>>   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

>>>>   Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and

>>>> free

>>>> audio recorder?

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>>   Depends what you call simple. Many do record but as often when you

>>>> do this

>>>> 

>>>>   you next need to edit the files, then I'd still use a program like

>>>> audacity

>>>>   or if you can afford a little beit Goldwave.

>>>>    There is virtual recorder but not tested it on XP as I think its

>>>> aimed at

>>>> 

>>>>   those with sound cards that you cannot record streams from etc.

>>>> 

>>>>   If you have a mobile phone, just press record is your thing.

>>>>    Brian

>>>> 

>>>>   bglists@...

>>>>   Sent via blueyonder.

>>>>   Please address personal email to:-

>>>>   briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

>>>>   in the display name field.

>>>>   ----- Original Message -----

>>>>   From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>

>>>>   To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>>>>   Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 6:46 PM

>>>>   Subject: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free

>>>> audio

>>>>   recorder?

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>>   > hello every one.

>>>>   > i need one program which can record mp3, be freeware or opensource,

>>>>   > safe, reliable, simple to use, supports all windows versions

>>>> since xp,

>>>>   > accessible and if possible, without extra software offering.

>>>>   > except jetaudio that i realy cant use, please help me.

>>>>   > God bless you all!

>>>>   >

>>>>   > --

>>>>   > we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.

>>>>   > holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.

>>>>   > in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:

>>>>   > indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of

>>>> salvation.

>>>>   > best website for studying islamic book in different languages

>>>>   > www.al-islam.org

>>>>   >

>>>>   >

>>>>   >

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> --

>>> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.

>>> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.

>>> in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:

>>> indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.

>>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages

>>> www.al-islam.org

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> .

>> 

>

 

 

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holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.

in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:

indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.

best website for studying islamic book in different languages

www.al-islam.org

 

 

 


Re: NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

I still say it is set to speak at logon. That is the only reason it would speak at all.

Also, you can check the registry for this, the simplest way is with CCleaner.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: 11 November 2017 22:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

Hi
When the Windows log-in and lock screen come into play, a Different NVDA profile is used to the one related to your user-id and it may be this that is providing speech during the shut-down process. Unless you specifically copy a modified profile across for system usage, it will use the default synth which is E-speak.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: 11 November 2017 19:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

I have this new machine and it has NVDA on it. But in Vda does not load at start up. We are having some problems with the machine, and my husband thought he had narrowed it down to stuff screwing up when you restart rather than shutting down the machine. Anyway, with NVDA not loaded when the machine is shutting down, occasionally will hang up and e speak will start talking. That is not the synthesizer I have selected. But it does talk. And it is happened on a few occasions. When he took it back to the store to let the tech look at it, it did that once, and now the tech is blaming the whole thing on NVDA. I’m sure that’s not correct, but I don’t know what to tell them.
Mary


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Re: do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?

 

hi again.
how should i stop recording, pause recording or save the recorded
files after finishing?
thanks brian, gene and roger for your help and God bless all.

On 11/12/17, Roger Stewart <paganus2@...> wrote:
You should get the lame-enc.dll file and just put it into the mp3 direct
cut folder and that will do it.

Roger









On 11/12/2017 4:48 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Looks to me like you would need to download the latest lame mp3 full
library to record in mp3. Not sure but just a quick read of the manual
suggests there is a record button and as I do not see one despite
setting the hardware to my sound card and only lame playback I can
deduce this is probably the case. If others disagree, do let us know.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free
audio recorder?


What system are you running it on? I'd have thought, like many of
these programs they have to know what to record from in the first
place so there should be some kind of set up system for it. I've not
used it myself, but xp sound and 7 sound and later work in different
ways, which is why quickmix won't work after XP.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and
free audio recorder?


hi again every one specially gene and roger.
thanks extremely for your help, mp3 direct cut is exactly the software
that i need.
but the only problem for me is i cant record anything.
i only can delete the unnecessary part of my sounds.
what should i do to record mp3 with it?


On 11/12/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
But all the person wants to do is work with MP3 files. Audacity is
a more
complex program and just for recording and editing MP3 files, MP3
direct Cut
is a bettter choice.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and
free audio
recorder?


for me, I would use audicity



Gene 於 12/11/2017 4:40 寫道:

Mp3 Direct Cut meets all your requirements.

Gene
----- Original Message -----


From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 1:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and
free
audio recorder?


Depends what you call simple. Many do record but as often when you
do this

you next need to edit the files, then I'd still use a program like
audacity
or if you can afford a little beit Goldwave.
There is virtual recorder but not tested it on XP as I think its
aimed at

those with sound cards that you cannot record streams from etc.

If you have a mobile phone, just press record is your thing.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 6:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free
audio
recorder?


> hello every one.
> i need one program which can record mp3, be freeware or opensource,
> safe, reliable, simple to use, supports all windows versions
since xp,
> accessible and if possible, without extra software offering.
> except jetaudio that i realy cant use, please help me.
> God bless you all!
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
> indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of
salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> www.al-islam.org
>
>
>







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org








.



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Mary,

My guess is you have NVDA loading at the logon screen. This is different from loading at startup, as it loads early on in the process.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: 11 November 2017 19:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

I have this new machine and it has NVDA on it. But in Vda does not load at start up. We are having some problems with the machine, and my husband thought he had narrowed it down to stuff screwing up when you restart rather than shutting down the machine. Anyway, with NVDA not loaded when the machine is shutting down, occasionally will hang up and e speak will start talking. That is not the synthesizer I have selected. But it does talk. And it is happened on a few occasions. When he took it back to the store to let the tech look at it, it did that once, and now the tech is blaming the whole thing on NVDA. I’m sure that’s not correct, but I don’t know what to tell them.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


Re: do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?

Roger Stewart
 

You should get the lame-enc.dll file and just put it into the mp3 direct cut folder and that will do it.

Roger

On 11/12/2017 4:48 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Looks to me like you would need to download the latest lame mp3 full library to record in mp3. Not sure but just a quick read of the manual suggests there is a record button and as I do not see one despite setting the hardware to my sound card and only lame playback I can deduce this is probably the case. If others disagree, do let us know.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?


What system are you running it on? I'd have thought, like many of these programs they have to know what to record from in the first place so there should be some kind of set up system for it. I've not used it myself, but xp sound and 7 sound and later work in different ways, which is why quickmix won't work after XP.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?


hi again every one specially gene and roger.
thanks extremely for your help, mp3 direct cut is exactly the software
that i need.
but the only problem for me is i cant record anything.
i only can delete the unnecessary part of my sounds.
what should i do to record mp3 with it?


On 11/12/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
But all the person wants to do is work with MP3 files. Audacity is a more
complex program and just for recording and editing MP3 files, MP3 direct Cut
is a bettter choice.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
recorder?


for me, I would use audicity



Gene 於 12/11/2017 4:40 寫道:

Mp3 Direct Cut meets all your requirements.

Gene
----- Original Message -----


From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 1:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free
audio recorder?


Depends what you call simple. Many do record but as often when you do this

you next need to edit the files, then I'd still use a program like
audacity
or if you can afford a little beit Goldwave.
There is virtual recorder but not tested it on XP as I think its aimed at

those with sound cards that you cannot record streams from etc.

If you have a mobile phone, just press record is your thing.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 6:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
recorder?


> hello every one.
> i need one program which can record mp3, be freeware or opensource,
> safe, reliable, simple to use, supports all windows versions
since xp,
> accessible and if possible, without extra software offering.
> except jetaudio that i realy cant use, please help me.
> God bless you all!
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
> indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of
salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> www.al-islam.org
>
>
>







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Re: NVDA in the workforce and in public institutions

Steve Nutt
 

Hang on a sec. Isn't Narrator some form of accessibility? You can now
install Windows from a DVD with Narrator running.

So you can't say Windows doesn't come with accessibility, not now anyway.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik
burggraaf
Sent: 11 November 2017 18:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA in the workforce and in public institutions

Hi Mike, I live in Ontario. I am not a lawyer, or a legislature, however, I
think I'm pretty familiar with the accessibility legislation we have here.
There is nothing as far as I know in the accessibility legislation that says
that accommodations need to be insured. I could be wrong. Feel free to
correct me.

Dolphin maybe trying to move itself in, but right now, we are looking at an
accessibility situation here that involves Freedom Scientific Jaws for
Windows, and non-visual desktop access nvda. The people who own and develop
Jaws are motivated by money. As soon as Jaws stops being a financially
viable product, it will cease to be developed and produced. At that point,
the government will not be able to purchase it, because it won't be
available for sale. Government offices will probably be the final holdouts
in the great switch, but at some point technology will force them to do the
right thing, even if they manage to hold out against employee and user
demands.
Although government is ridiculously slow to change, governments were the
first early adopters of the mobile platforms in the late 90s and early 2000.
Mobile technologies and their accessibility Solutions are the way of the
future. Because of what first Apple, and then Google have done, governments
are already issuing devices to their employees with disabilities where
accessibility already comes standard. In fact, Windows is currently the only
platform where accessibility does not come standard.
At some point, accessible procurement may be a factor in governments finally
switching either to a different desktop platform, or two entire mobile
platforms. Of course, they will resist this change, but there are two
inexorable factors. First, user demand. Accommodation legislation is usually
worded in such a way that if a user asks for a specific accommodation, that
has to be taken into consideration. Second, you can't buy something that
isn't on the market. As demand for Windows decreases, so too will the demand
for Jaws for Windows, and as I said, they will not continue to produce
something they can't sell. Come talk to me in another 3 or 4 years.



On November 11, 2017 1:08:23 PM "Mike and Jenna" <schwaltze@...>
wrote:

Lol You better have a long talk with the top guys at the government as they
do not follow your logic. They want software that comes from insured
companys and other things like that nvda could never afford to be insured
like that here in Canada or the use. There is many reasons that nvda will
not be part of the government unless somethings changes and money is raised
to get them insured over here. Also that still wouldn't work as they need to
be insured every year. There is nothing that holds nvda labial if something
goes wrong like there is with freedom.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik
burggraaf
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 11:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA in the workforce and in public institutions

Hi Steve, anyone can alter the code of an open source project, true. a what
I fail to understand is, how is this an inherent ecurity concern? The
altered code must be installed in order to do what you author it to do. You
can blow up the code five ways from Sunday, but if you are installing
official builds, no one will ever see your damaged code. In theory, I
suppose someone could hack the update server, place a damaged update into
the update queue, and roll it out to other computers. I have to say though,
I think that's a very very miniscule risk.

Administrators of public computer systems generally lock things down, so
that users cannot get access to the program files folder, the windows
folder, and other critical system functions. Users can not simply walk up
and install anything they want, regardless of whether it is open source or
not. If your systems are secure, and the Distribution Systems for the
software are secure, and the policies you operate under are secure, then
regardless of whether the software is open source or not, the entire
procedure should be secure.

If you are a foolish administrator, allowing users to install things
willy-nilly on public computers, then there is a very high risk of that
someone will go to virusladengames.com, and download a bunch of crap to the
computer. I would consider this a much greater risk, then securely
installing open source software to provide accessibility.

Unless I am greatly missing something, I submit that installing code from an
unknown source is a security risk, but the innate ability to modify code is
not.



On November 10, 2017 10:42:26 AM "Steve Nutt" <steve@...> wrote:

Hi,

I would have thought the security aspect is obvious. Since it is open
source, anyone has access to the code, and anyone can alter it. So I can
understand workplace concerns.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bhavya
shah
Sent: 09 November 2017 06:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA in the workforce and in public institutions

Hi Sky,
Before we debate the security of NVDA, I think we need to get the case of
the library representative clarified. Firstly, what are the bases of this
assertion that NVDA is less secure? Secondly, assuming that the claimant has
the requisite technical knowhow, has he perused NVDA's source code to
substantiate this claim? Thirdly, are there any specific security
vulnerabilities or exploits present in NVDA that he can point us to?
Unless the library representative can provide cogent responses to the above
questions, or strengthen his claim by concrete evidence, I would dismiss
such a comment as a misinformed and groundless one which holds no water.
Thanks.

On 11/9/17, Sky Mundell <skyt@...> wrote:
Hello All. Today, I was at our monthly technology meeting at a public
library here in Victoria, British Columbia, and NVDA was one of the
screen reading options discussed to a new participant who had low
vision. However, the tech at the library looked at it, and he told the
group that it was less secure, and they commented that it was better
for home use, rather than in corporate environments. Would NV Access
staffers like to comment on this issue, and what can be done to
address this issue? Because they were going to settle on the
Window-Eyes for office option back when it was being updated, but as
we all know it got discontinued and they did look at Window-Eyes as an
option and they were more in favour of it due to it not being Open
Source. They also did have JAWS for a time but got rid of it due to
lack of training and they would have had to spend money to get
somebody from FS to train them on it. Any suggestions you guys could
give me would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Sky.





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