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Re: Spellchecker Microsoft office word 2017

Rod Hutton <rod_hutton@...>
 

Hi Steve,

 

That is correct.

Alt-semi-colon and Alt-apostrophe go to the previous and next spelling error in context, respectively, using Window-Eyes.

 

Best,

 

Rod

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: November 13, 2017 4:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spellchecker Microsoft office word 2017

 

Hi,

 

It’s a shame you have to go into Browse to do it.  WE and JFW just let you use hotkeys, in the case of WE, it is Alt ; and Alt ‘ if I remember right for prev and next.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 13 November 2017 03:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spellchecker Microsoft office word 2017

 

You can also jump to next spelling error using NVDA by:

- Pressing NVDA+spacebar to go into Browse mode.

- Press w to move to the next spelling error or shift+w to move to the previous spelling error.

 

Note that you'll need to go back to focus mode with NVDA+spacebar to edit text again.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 9:04 AM, Rod Hutton <rod_hutton@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

By default, MS word will highlight spelling errors automatically as you move through a document, making it unnecessary to activate the spell checker to proof a document.

I am told that sighted people see these misspelled words as underlined words, and I suppose this is what NVDA is detecting such that it can identify them for us.

Therefore, as I see it, you can move to the misspelled word in context, press the Applications key, and move through the pull-down menu and review the replacement possibilities, and one of the elements in the pull-down is the highlighted misspelled word itself for your convenience.

You can then make your choice and press Enter.

 

I hope this helps,

 

Rod

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jo Collingwood
Sent: November 9, 2017 2:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Spellchecker Microsoft office word 2017

 

Can anyone tell me how to make the wrongly spelt word in spellchecker be announced before moving to suggestions please? On office 10 NVDA read the word and sentence so you knew which word was highlighted in the dialogue box. I’ve tried read current line, say word , spell word but nothing reads so my student doesn’t know which word he is correcting at the time. The layout is different too as are the shortcuts for change and ignore



 

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Re: Unveiling Braille Me - World's Most Affordable Smart Braille Display

Cristóbal
 

It literally says $399.00 in the original email message.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unveiling Braille Me - World's Most Affordable Smart
Braille Display

How affordable is it???
At 07:17 AM 11/13/2017, you wrote:
Hi Josh,
I had been contacted by Shyam from Innovision a couple months ago with
regards to how adding support for a new Braille display driver works in
the case of NVDA. I had redirected Shyam to Jamie or Reef by providing
their e-mail addresses at that point in time. I am unaware of whether
or not he actually followed up with an NV Access staff member, but what
I can safely say is that supporting NVDA was very much on their minds
while developing this affordable Braille display.
Thanks.

On 11/13/17, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@gmail.com> wrote:
will this display work with NVDA also?




-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Unveiling Braille Me - World's Most Affordable Smart
Braille
Display
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 03:10:09 -0800
From: Innovision <shyam@innovisiontech.co>
To: joshknnd1982@gmail.com



Greetings from Innovision!
This email is in reply to the Pre-order interest survey that you or
a representative from your firm submitted (link -
https://tinyurl.com/BrailleMe-Survey
<https://innovisiontech-dot-yamm-track.appspot.com/Redirect?ukey=1faNFNvnKA_
4Ij1SFgAV4lloCizIP-yQHxS_P4iDZetA-0&key=YAMMID-71407346&link=https%3A%2F%2Ft
inyurl.com%2FBrailleMe-Survey>).


Thank you for showing your interest in Innovision
(www.innovisiontech.co
<https://innovisiontech-dot-yamm-track.appspot.com/Redirect?ukey=1faNF
NvnKA_4Ij1SFgAV4lloCizIP-yQHxS_P4iDZetA-0&key=YAMMID-71407346&link=htt
p%3A%2F%2Fwww.innovisiontech.co%2F>)

and our product, BrailleMe - a Smart Braille Display for the
visually impaired community.

I am excited to inform you that we are launching Braille Me, world's
most affordable smart braille display at USD 399/- on the 4th of
January celebrating the World Braille Day. Let me give you an
overview of Braille Me.

About Braille Me -

Ever Since Louis Braille invented the wonderful script of Braille,
it has been adopted all across the globe empowering millions of
individuals. Today, after 200 years we are on the verge of a
revolution in Braille. Braille Me, is built to bring digital braille
to everyone immaterial of their geographical, economic or lingual
background.

It has a six-dot 20-cell braille display, a Perkins-style keypad,
cursor routing buttons and few navigation keys. It has capabilities
to work as a stand-alone editor and also connect to smartphones and
computers via Bluetooth and USB. It is a balanced device with core
features of a complex notetaker while having the simplicity of a braille
display.

Braille Me has become possible due to two breakthroughs in
Affordability and multi-language. Braille Me is designed with our
patented Braille cell technology which makes the device
cost-effective by an order of magnitude compared to existing
products and supports more than 40 languages spanning all across the
globe.

To know more about Braille Me please check our demonstration video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz1cUZcf-1A
<https://innovisiontech-dot-yamm-track.appspot.com/Redirect?ukey=1faNF
NvnKA_4Ij1SFgAV4lloCizIP-yQHxS_P4iDZetA-0&key=YAMMID-71407346&link=htt
ps%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DFz1cUZcf-1A>

Also check out our facebook page:
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ps%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FInnovisionTechnologies%2F>

Reaching out:

We are eager to serve you and look forward to engaging with you.
Currently, we are looking for partners who can help us in the
distribution and training in your state/country. Please let us know
if you are part of or are in touch with any Institute for Visually
impaired, commercial distributors of disability aids or NGOs working
in your area.
Your help in identifying key partners would go a long way in
expediting distribution of Braille Me in your locality.

We hope you would join us in this effort to bring digital braille to
every student and professional in need.
In case you have any queries, please feel free to reach out to our
team at customercare@innovisiontech.co
<mailto:info@innovisiontech.co> We look forward to hearing from you.
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Re: For our friends from Iran on this list

Marco Oros
 

I also gets a big spiritual support for descendands of old Persian people to Iran. I am with You. I am not Persian, or Muslim, but I love every people, because not nations, but people are sometimes good and bad. I also love iranian culture, like another cultures too.
Marco


Re: For our friends from Iran on this list

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes Likewise from me in the UK, I do hope the current political situation does not stop people from helping if they can. We are all after all united in the family of man.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:39 PM
Subject: [nvda] For our friends from Iran on this list


Hello all,

I know there are some friends from Iran on this list.

I hope you are all well, after the terrible earthquake that devastated part of your country.

I don't know whether there also friends from Iraq here.

If tehre are, my thoughts and prayers go out to you as well.

I know how it feels, Here in Italy we've recently had quite a few earthquakes, some with many casualties.

Blessings to you.
Ollie


For our friends from Iran on this list

Mallard
 

Hello all,

I know there are some friends from Iran on this list.

I hope you are all well, after the terrible earthquake that devastated part of your country.

I don't know whether there also friends from Iraq here.

If tehre are, my thoughts and prayers go out to you as well.

I know how it feels, Here in Italy we've recently had quite a few earthquakes, some with many casualties.

Blessings to you.
Ollie


Re: Zoom and NVDA

 

I'll put up the ticket shortly.




On 11/13/2017 7:48 AM, Brian Moore wrote:

is there an issue on this yet?


if not, I will create it.


Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
On 2017-11-12 10:16 PM, Derek Lane wrote:

I've mentioned this on this list before.

I've also spoken to zoom, and they told me they're talking to anything that will listen though msaa.

I believe this is so, because not only does zoom notifications read with JAWS, but they are also read in narrator under windows 10.  The rest of the client works reasonably well with it as well.

So it sounds like a tiny piece of something is missing.

If it gets fixed, maybe this would inadvertently improve access to other apps that we may not be aware of.




On 11/12/2017 10:02 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi,

In general, I would say if something doesn't work in Next, it is often worth double checking the latest stable build to make sure it's not a regression.  In terms of Zoom, I don't think we've done any work on this recently so I suspect it will be the same between versions.

The information in this thread is really useful and I don't want to lose it.  The best next step is to ensure this is recorded in our issue tracker: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

If you are able to do that Governor Staten, that will ensure you are kept up to date with work done on this issue.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Governor staten <govsta@...> wrote:

Just to provide more info, I"m using the latest NVDA snapshot in the Next branch. There might be a version where everything works as expected with Zoom. However, I don't know what that version of NVDA would be.





On 11/10/2017 4:34 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Yeah, I just started using this myself, and it does work really well with JAWS 18. I haven’t yet tried it with nVDA, but that’s on the horizon. Now I know what to expect.

 

It’s a hell of a lot better than skype, anyway. *grins*

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: November 10, 2017 2:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Zoom and NVDA

 

Hello, everyone. I wrote about this earlier. I have learned more. Zoom is perfectly accessible with JAWS 16. However, with NVDA, it is not completely so. For example, when you press alt+a to mute or un-mute audio, JAWS announces the fact that audio is either muted or un-muted, but, NVDA says nothing.

 

In edit fields, JAWS can easily review them by using arrow keys, it announces what characters you arrow to or over. With     NVDA, review of text in edit fields is not easy to do. It does not announce what character you are on when you arrow to or over characters.

 

These are issues that I believe should be seriously looked into and fixed. This is a program used in work environments, and should be used in more places due to accessibility of the product. Right now, I have to use JAWS 16 to get full access. This should not be so. I hope this one can be rectified soon.

 

p.s. I think that the issues, or some of them, might be related to ARIA. If I can help in any way to get this working, I will. Let me know how I can help.




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Re: Unveiling Braille Me - World's Most Affordable Smart Braille Display

Antony Stone
 

Never mind Youtube, the press release quoted below states "It has a six-dot
20-cell braille display, a Perkins-style keypad, cursor routing buttons and
few navigation keys."

That is quite clear.


Antony.

On Monday 13 November 2017 at 14:04:24, Alexander Masic wrote:

I am little hasitating. Because the display has only 6 dots if I have
understand that youtobeclip corect, and that has some problems.

Den 2017-11-13 kl. 13:32, skrev Josh Kennedy:
will this display work with NVDA also?




-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Unveiling Braille Me - World's Most Affordable Smart Braille
Display
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 03:10:09 -0800
From: Innovision <shyam@innovisiontech.co>
To: joshknnd1982@gmail.com



Greetings from Innovision!
This email is in reply to the Pre-order interest survey that you or a
representative from your firm submitted (link -
https://tinyurl.com/BrailleMe-Survey
<https://innovisiontech-dot-yamm-track.appspot.com/Redirect?ukey=1faNFNvn
KA_4Ij1SFgAV4lloCizIP-yQHxS_P4iDZetA-0&key=YAMMID-71407346&link=https%3A%
2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2FBrailleMe-Survey>).

Thank you for showing your interest in Innovision
(www.innovisiontech.co
<https://innovisiontech-dot-yamm-track.appspot.com/Redirect?ukey=1faNFNvn
KA_4Ij1SFgAV4lloCizIP-yQHxS_P4iDZetA-0&key=YAMMID-71407346&link=http%3A%2
F%2Fwww.innovisiontech.co%2F>) and our product, BrailleMe - a Smart
Braille Display for the visually impaired community.

I am excited to inform you that we are launching Braille Me, world's
most affordable smart braille display at USD 399/- on the 4th of
January celebrating the World Braille Day. Let me give you an overview
of Braille Me.

About Braille Me -

Ever Since Louis Braille invented the wonderful script of Braille, it
has been adopted all across the globe empowering millions of
individuals. Today, after 200 years we are on the verge of a
revolution in Braille. Braille Me, is built to bring digital braille
to everyone immaterial of their geographical, economic or lingual
background.

It has a six-dot 20-cell braille display, a Perkins-style keypad,
cursor routing buttons and few navigation keys. It has capabilities
to work as a stand-alone editor and also connect to smartphones and
computers via Bluetooth and USB. It is a balanced device with core
features of a complex notetaker while having the simplicity of a
braille display.

Braille Me has become possible due to two breakthroughs in
Affordability and multi-language. Braille Me is designed with our
patented Braille cell technology which makes the device cost-effective
by an order of magnitude compared to existing products and supports
more than 40 languages spanning all across the globe.

To know more about Braille Me please check our demonstration video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz1cUZcf-1A
<https://innovisiontech-dot-yamm-track.appspot.com/Redirect?ukey=1faNFNvn
KA_4Ij1SFgAV4lloCizIP-yQHxS_P4iDZetA-0&key=YAMMID-71407346&link=https%3A%
2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DFz1cUZcf-1A>

Also check out our facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/InnovisionTechnologies/
<https://innovisiontech-dot-yamm-track.appspot.com/Redirect?ukey=1faNFNvn
KA_4Ij1SFgAV4lloCizIP-yQHxS_P4iDZetA-0&key=YAMMID-71407346&link=https%3A%
2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FInnovisionTechnologies%2F>

Reaching out:

We are eager to serve you and look forward to engaging with you.
Currently, we are looking for partners who can help us in the
distribution and training in your state/country. Please let us know if
you are part of or are in touch with any Institute for Visually
impaired, commercial distributors of disability aids or NGOs working
in your area.
Your help in identifying key partners would go a long way in
expediting distribution of Braille Me in your locality.

We hope you would join us in this effort to bring digital braille to
every student and professional in need.
In case you have any queries, please feel free to reach out to our
team at customercare@innovisiontech.co <mailto:info@innovisiontech.co>
We look forward to hearing from you.



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Re: Unveiling Braille Me - World's Most Affordable Smart Braille Display

Steve Nutt
 

How about 399 US Dollars.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: 13 November 2017 13:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unveiling Braille Me - World's Most Affordable Smart
Braille Display

How affordable is it???
At 07:17 AM 11/13/2017, you wrote:
Hi Josh,
I had been contacted by Shyam from Innovision a couple months ago with
regards to how adding support for a new Braille display driver works in
the case of NVDA. I had redirected Shyam to Jamie or Reef by providing
their e-mail addresses at that point in time. I am unaware of whether
or not he actually followed up with an NV Access staff member, but what
I can safely say is that supporting NVDA was very much on their minds
while developing this affordable Braille display.
Thanks.

On 11/13/17, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@gmail.com> wrote:
will this display work with NVDA also?




-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Unveiling Braille Me - World's Most Affordable Smart
Braille
Display
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 03:10:09 -0800
From: Innovision <shyam@innovisiontech.co>
To: joshknnd1982@gmail.com



Greetings from Innovision!
This email is in reply to the Pre-order interest survey that you or
a representative from your firm submitted (link -
https://tinyurl.com/BrailleMe-Survey
<https://innovisiontech-dot-yamm-track.appspot.com/Redirect?ukey=1faNFNvnKA_
4Ij1SFgAV4lloCizIP-yQHxS_P4iDZetA-0&key=YAMMID-71407346&link=https%3A%2F%2Ft
inyurl.com%2FBrailleMe-Survey>).


Thank you for showing your interest in Innovision
(www.innovisiontech.co
<https://innovisiontech-dot-yamm-track.appspot.com/Redirect?ukey=1faNF
NvnKA_4Ij1SFgAV4lloCizIP-yQHxS_P4iDZetA-0&key=YAMMID-71407346&link=htt
p%3A%2F%2Fwww.innovisiontech.co%2F>)

and our product, BrailleMe - a Smart Braille Display for the
visually impaired community.

I am excited to inform you that we are launching Braille Me, world's
most affordable smart braille display at USD 399/- on the 4th of
January celebrating the World Braille Day. Let me give you an
overview of Braille Me.

About Braille Me -

Ever Since Louis Braille invented the wonderful script of Braille,
it has been adopted all across the globe empowering millions of
individuals. Today, after 200 years we are on the verge of a
revolution in Braille. Braille Me, is built to bring digital braille
to everyone immaterial of their geographical, economic or lingual
background.

It has a six-dot 20-cell braille display, a Perkins-style keypad,
cursor routing buttons and few navigation keys. It has capabilities
to work as a stand-alone editor and also connect to smartphones and
computers via Bluetooth and USB. It is a balanced device with core
features of a complex notetaker while having the simplicity of a braille
display.

Braille Me has become possible due to two breakthroughs in
Affordability and multi-language. Braille Me is designed with our
patented Braille cell technology which makes the device
cost-effective by an order of magnitude compared to existing
products and supports more than 40 languages spanning all across the
globe.

To know more about Braille Me please check our demonstration video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz1cUZcf-1A
<https://innovisiontech-dot-yamm-track.appspot.com/Redirect?ukey=1faNF
NvnKA_4Ij1SFgAV4lloCizIP-yQHxS_P4iDZetA-0&key=YAMMID-71407346&link=htt
ps%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DFz1cUZcf-1A>

Also check out our facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/InnovisionTechnologies/
<https://innovisiontech-dot-yamm-track.appspot.com/Redirect?ukey=1faNF
NvnKA_4Ij1SFgAV4lloCizIP-yQHxS_P4iDZetA-0&key=YAMMID-71407346&link=htt
ps%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FInnovisionTechnologies%2F>

Reaching out:

We are eager to serve you and look forward to engaging with you.
Currently, we are looking for partners who can help us in the
distribution and training in your state/country. Please let us know
if you are part of or are in touch with any Institute for Visually
impaired, commercial distributors of disability aids or NGOs working
in your area.
Your help in identifying key partners would go a long way in
expediting distribution of Braille Me in your locality.

We hope you would join us in this effort to bring digital braille to
every student and professional in need.
In case you have any queries, please feel free to reach out to our
team at customercare@innovisiontech.co
<mailto:info@innovisiontech.co> We look forward to hearing from you.
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NvnKA_4Ij1SFgAV4lloCizIP-yQHxS_P4iDZetA-0&key=YAMMID-71407346&link=htt
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Re: Unveiling Braille Me - World's Most Affordable Smart Braille Display

Devin Prater
 

I'll definitely be looking out for this.

Devin Prater
Assistive technology Instructor in training
JAWS, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint certified by World Services for the Blind.


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Alexander Masic <list@...>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:04:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unveiling Braille Me - World's Most Affordable Smart Braille Display
 

I am little hasitating. Because the display has only 6 dots if I have understand that youtobeclip corect, and that has some problems.


  


Den 2017-11-13 kl. 13:32, skrev Josh Kennedy:

will this display work with NVDA also?




-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Unveiling Braille Me - World's Most Affordable Smart Braille Display
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 03:10:09 -0800
From: Innovision <shyam@...>
To: joshknnd1982@...


Greetings from Innovision!
 
This email is in reply to the Pre-order interest survey that you or a representative from your firm submitted (link - https://tinyurl.com/BrailleMe-Survey). 
Thank you for showing your interest in Innovision (www.innovisiontech.co) and our product, BrailleMe - a Smart Braille Display for the visually impaired community.

I am excited to inform you that we are launching Braille Me, world's most affordable smart braille display at USD 399/- on the 4th of January celebrating the World Braille Day. Let me give you an overview of Braille Me.

About Braille Me -

Ever Since Louis Braille invented the wonderful script of Braille, it has been adopted all across the globe empowering millions of individuals. Today, after 200 years we are on the verge of a revolution in Braille. Braille Me, is built to bring digital braille to everyone immaterial of their geographical, economic or lingual background.

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Re: Unveiling Braille Me - World's Most Affordable Smart Braille Display

Alexander Masic
 

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Den 2017-11-13 kl. 13:32, skrev Josh Kennedy:

will this display work with NVDA also?




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Re: do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?

Gene
 

I should add that those comments are intended to respond to Brian, although his is not the message quoted immediately be;low mine.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?

I should add to my last comments on the subject that I didn't check to see if there is a lame encoder anywhere in the program files before I placed the encoder where the documentation tells you to place it.  If you found one or found one in a different place, that would be interesting to know.  While I'm skeptical that lame is used to play files, for the reasons I gave before, if there is a lame file already in the program when you get it, that would be evidence to consider.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?

hi david.
could you please your tutorial for me directly off list?
i am afraid forget to copy and loos the useful informations, since
these days i am very busy.
God bless you all.

On 11/13/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> As far as I know, Lame is, as it says, an encoder.  It isn't used for
> decoding or playing mp3s.  I've seen nothing in settings indicating that it
> uses lame for playing and if it did, you wouldn't need two.
>
> Also, since, for legal reasonss, lame can't be distributed as a part of the
> player itself, if it were used for playing, the player couldn't play unless
> the encoder were installed by the user.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:05 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
> recorder?
>
>
> Interestingly I see in mine that it is happy to use lame for playing but not
>
> recording so I'm guessing there may well be two dlls perhaps?
>  Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal email to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 12:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
>
> recorder?
>
>
> You need the Lame encoder.  I haven't looked much to find where to download
>
> it.  You place the lame_enc.dll file in the MP3 Direct folder.  You don't
> need to put anything else that comes with the Lame_enc.dll folder anywhere.
>
> Once it's in the right place, run MP3 Direct Cut, and press f12 to open the
>
> encoder part of the configuration dialog.
> Tab around.  You will find a check box to check with the space bar to use
> Lame_enc.dll.  Tab through the dialog and set things as you wish.  You must
>
> activate the cloase button after making changes to save them.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: zahra
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 1:01 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
>
> recorder?
>
>
> hi again every one specially gene and roger.
> thanks extremely for your help, mp3 direct cut is exactly the software
> that i need.
> but the only problem for me is i cant record anything.
> i only can delete the unnecessary part of my sounds.
> what should i do to record mp3 with it?
>
>
> On 11/12/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> But all the person wants to do is work with MP3 files.  Audacity is a
>> more
>> complex program and just for recording and editing MP3 files, MP3 direct
>> Cut
>> is a bettter choice.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:05 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free
>> audio
>> recorder?
>>
>>
>> for me, I would use audicity
>>
>>
>>
>> Gene 於 12/11/2017 4:40 寫道:
>>
>>   Mp3 Direct Cut meets all your requirements.
>>
>>   Gene
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>
>>   From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
>>   Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 1:37 PM
>>   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>   Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free
>> audio recorder?
>>
>>
>>   Depends what you call simple. Many do record but as often when you do
>> this
>>
>>   you next need to edit the files, then I'd still use a program like
>> audacity
>>   or if you can afford a little beit Goldwave.
>>    There is virtual recorder but not tested it on XP as I think its aimed
>>
>> at
>>
>>   those with sound cards that you cannot record streams from etc.
>>
>>   If you have a mobile phone, just press record is your thing.
>>    Brian
>>
>>   bglists@...
>>   Sent via blueyonder.
>>   Please address personal email to:-
>>   briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>   in the display name field.
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
>>   To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>   Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 6:46 PM
>>   Subject: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free
>> audio
>>   recorder?
>>
>>
>>   > hello every one.
>>   > i need one program which can record mp3, be freeware or opensource,
>>   > safe, reliable, simple to use, supports all windows versions since
>> xp,
>>   > accessible and if possible, without extra software offering.
>>   > except jetaudio that i realy cant use, please help me.
>>   > God bless you all!
>>   >
>>   > --
>>   > we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
>>   > holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>>   > in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
>>   > indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of
>> salvation.
>>   > best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>>   > www.al-islam.org
>>   >
>>   >
>>   >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
> indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> www.al-islam.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org




Re: do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?

Gene
 

I should add to my last comments on the subject that I didn't check to see if there is a lame encoder anywhere in the program files before I placed the encoder where the documentation tells you to place it.  If you found one or found one in a different place, that would be interesting to know.  While I'm skeptical that lame is used to play files, for the reasons I gave before, if there is a lame file already in the program when you get it, that would be evidence to consider.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?

hi david.
could you please your tutorial for me directly off list?
i am afraid forget to copy and loos the useful informations, since
these days i am very busy.
God bless you all.

On 11/13/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> As far as I know, Lame is, as it says, an encoder.  It isn't used for
> decoding or playing mp3s.  I've seen nothing in settings indicating that it
> uses lame for playing and if it did, you wouldn't need two.
>
> Also, since, for legal reasonss, lame can't be distributed as a part of the
> player itself, if it were used for playing, the player couldn't play unless
> the encoder were installed by the user.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:05 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
> recorder?
>
>
> Interestingly I see in mine that it is happy to use lame for playing but not
>
> recording so I'm guessing there may well be two dlls perhaps?
>  Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal email to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 12:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
>
> recorder?
>
>
> You need the Lame encoder.  I haven't looked much to find where to download
>
> it.  You place the lame_enc.dll file in the MP3 Direct folder.  You don't
> need to put anything else that comes with the Lame_enc.dll folder anywhere.
>
> Once it's in the right place, run MP3 Direct Cut, and press f12 to open the
>
> encoder part of the configuration dialog.
> Tab around.  You will find a check box to check with the space bar to use
> Lame_enc.dll.  Tab through the dialog and set things as you wish.  You must
>
> activate the cloase button after making changes to save them.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: zahra
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 1:01 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
>
> recorder?
>
>
> hi again every one specially gene and roger.
> thanks extremely for your help, mp3 direct cut is exactly the software
> that i need.
> but the only problem for me is i cant record anything.
> i only can delete the unnecessary part of my sounds.
> what should i do to record mp3 with it?
>
>
> On 11/12/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> But all the person wants to do is work with MP3 files.  Audacity is a
>> more
>> complex program and just for recording and editing MP3 files, MP3 direct
>> Cut
>> is a bettter choice.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:05 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free
>> audio
>> recorder?
>>
>>
>> for me, I would use audicity
>>
>>
>>
>> Gene 於 12/11/2017 4:40 寫道:
>>
>>   Mp3 Direct Cut meets all your requirements.
>>
>>   Gene
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>
>>   From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
>>   Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 1:37 PM
>>   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>   Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free
>> audio recorder?
>>
>>
>>   Depends what you call simple. Many do record but as often when you do
>> this
>>
>>   you next need to edit the files, then I'd still use a program like
>> audacity
>>   or if you can afford a little beit Goldwave.
>>    There is virtual recorder but not tested it on XP as I think its aimed
>>
>> at
>>
>>   those with sound cards that you cannot record streams from etc.
>>
>>   If you have a mobile phone, just press record is your thing.
>>    Brian
>>
>>   bglists@...
>>   Sent via blueyonder.
>>   Please address personal email to:-
>>   briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>   in the display name field.
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
>>   To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>   Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 6:46 PM
>>   Subject: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free
>> audio
>>   recorder?
>>
>>
>>   > hello every one.
>>   > i need one program which can record mp3, be freeware or opensource,
>>   > safe, reliable, simple to use, supports all windows versions since
>> xp,
>>   > accessible and if possible, without extra software offering.
>>   > except jetaudio that i realy cant use, please help me.
>>   > God bless you all!
>>   >
>>   > --
>>   > we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
>>   > holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>>   > in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
>>   > indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of
>> salvation.
>>   > best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>>   > www.al-islam.org
>>   >
>>   >
>>   >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
> indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> www.al-islam.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org




Re: NVDA and office 2016

Gene
 

We'll see if your experience matches others'.  I haven't used Outlook since I tried it for a very short time as the 2003 version.  As I said, I've never seen en e-mail program exhibit this behavior but I'll certainly take into account what people say on the subject. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Gene 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

Hi,

 

It does, certainly with JAWS, slow it down a bit.

 

With NVDA I haven’t tried it, but I always turned all panes off since Outlook 2003, since it slows them down measurably.

 

I’m not about to reduce performance on my machine, just for NVDA.

 

All the best

S

teve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 13 November 2017 13:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

I don't see how the folders view can cause performance differences whether it is on or off.  It doesn't do anything unless you move into it and do somethink like move to a different folder.  It is nothing but a treeview of folders that is loaded when the program is run and it just sits there if not used.  I suppose it may take an extremely small time, probably almost immeasurable, when you first run the program for the treeview to populate but it should not even be noticeable unless you compared program loading times using some sort of timing device..

 

Have you compared or are you assuming that it slows down performance in some way?  And then, there is the ques5tion of where the control y dialog gets its information when run.  It actually may be slower to open that dialog and have it populate every time you want to switch folders instead of having a treeview load once and remain.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:17 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

Hi,

 

Only if the folder pane is turned on.  I turn this off for performance reasons.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 13 November 2017 05:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

Control+shift+tab can be used to move to the folders list and then arrow through those and enter to select a new folder.

 

For reference, our issue on this is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7556 and we have been in discussion with Microsoft to have it resolved as soon as possible.  This particular issue was caused by a change Microsoft made, and it needed to be fixed by them rather than us.  I believe Microsoft has resolved the issue, which I think may currently be in Office insider builds (I haven't checked) and is due to filter across to public stable builds in December.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

 

 

On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:19 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

Hi Ian,

 

Thanks for the Shift-F6 option, but I can still make it crash using that.  But it is not all the time.

 

Outlook is definitely not pretty with NVDA, which brings me back to my point that I couldn’t use it at work.

 

Word is also pretty sluggish with large documents, but at least it doesn’t crash.  NVDA is simply not up there yet, except on the web.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ian Robinson
Sent: 10 November 2017 18:54


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

Hi,

 

If I press Control+y, select a folder and press Enter, then Outlook will crash.

If I press Shift+F6, select a folder and press Enter, then all works just fine.

 

If I press Control plus a number to select another part of Outlook, such as Calendar or People, then outlook will crash.

If I press Shift+F6 twice to get to the Navigation bar and use the cursor keys and Enter to select another part of Outlook then there is no crash.

 

Regards.

 

Ian

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 10 November 2017 18:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

How are you switching to folders?  I've seen this discussed before either here or on another list and crashing doesn't occur if you switch to folders in one way and it does if you switch in another.  I suspect that your expression crashing all over the place is extreme hyperbole as the only complaint I remember  seen is when switching folders and you are discussing it as well.  If a problem is a general one, it's fine to say so but if, as I suspect, it occurs only in switching folders, overstating the extent is misleading.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 11:18 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

Sorry joseph, but that answer is nonsense.

 

I have the latest build of Office 365 on the fast ring and it is still not fixed.

 

So I just opened NVDA, then I opened Outlook, then read some Email.  All was fine.  Then I switched to a folder, and Crash!  Outlook Has Stopped Working.

 

I don’t call that fixed, do you?

 

Now if the only screen reader I had was NVDA, and I was trying to earn a crust, what kind of support would I get?

 

Let me see, JAWS and Supernova have fixed the problem in Outlook, so what’s the difference?  Oh wait, they are paid for programs.

 

In the case of JAWS, I Emailed FS, and they told me it would be fixed very soon.  Then they released a patch for JAWS 18, which specifically fixed these folder crashes.

 

Now again, I’m in the workplace and I want to get my job done.  I Email nvaccess, and say help I can’t use my tool with NVDA that I could use before.  How long would I expect to wait to get a fix?

 

It’s been a long time guys for this fix to happen.

 

My point really is that in order to get that level of support in the workplace from NVAccess, I am guessing they’d have to pay a considerable amount.

 

So wouldn’t that be the same as buying a screen reader?  I come back to what I’ve always said, and before Laz pipes in, I know I am a supplier of access tech, including JAWS, I believe NVDA really only is for the hobbiest and is not a mission critical app.

 

Of course, I’d love to be proven wrong on this, but when the rubber hits the road, in terms of work, NVDA just doesn’t cut it.

 

Quickbooks is another example, there is no add-on for it, but there are JAWS scripts.  Most of the addons are for consumer products.

 

I personally would love to see the day when NVDA is good enough to use 24-7, but for me that day is not here yet.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 10 November 2017 17:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

Hi,

It also depends on which build of Office 365 you’ve got, because sometimes that makes a difference (fixes are in Outlook, for instance).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 7:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

Hi Quentin,

 

Now if we could persuade NVDA to stop crashing every time you change Outlook folders, Office would be usable again.

 

I know Freedom Sci had to hack around this problem with MS, something to do with UIA calls.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 08 November 2017 22:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

Hi Mary,

 

Office 2016 is in many ways similar to Office 2013.  NVDA works very well with both, and in a couple of cases, Microsoft have fixed bugs in 2016 so there are some things that work better.  I wrote the official NV Access training material for Microsoft Word and Excel using Office 2016.  The material itself works for Office 2010 to 2016 (I found in more cases I was noting a difference in the behaviour of Office 2010 compared to the other two, rather than a new difference in Office 2016).

 

If you are interested, our material is available from: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Mary Otten <motten53@...> wrote:

Hi all,
I was just looking on Jean‘s website, Accessibility central.net, and there was a tutorial there for using Microsoft Word with NVDA. It mentioned office 2013. I have a friend who uses a different screen reader, and he also uses 2013. Is 2016 accessible? I hope so, because that seems to be the currently available version.
Mary


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Re: do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?

 

hi david.
could you please your tutorial for me directly off list?
i am afraid forget to copy and loos the useful informations, since
these days i am very busy.
God bless you all.

On 11/13/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
As far as I know, Lame is, as it says, an encoder. It isn't used for
decoding or playing mp3s. I've seen nothing in settings indicating that it
uses lame for playing and if it did, you wouldn't need two.

Also, since, for legal reasonss, lame can't be distributed as a part of the
player itself, if it were used for playing, the player couldn't play unless
the encoder were installed by the user.

Gene
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Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
recorder?


Interestingly I see in mine that it is happy to use lame for playing but not

recording so I'm guessing there may well be two dlls perhaps?
Brian

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in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio

recorder?


You need the Lame encoder. I haven't looked much to find where to download

it. You place the lame_enc.dll file in the MP3 Direct folder. You don't
need to put anything else that comes with the Lame_enc.dll folder anywhere.

Once it's in the right place, run MP3 Direct Cut, and press f12 to open the

encoder part of the configuration dialog.
Tab around. You will find a check box to check with the space bar to use
Lame_enc.dll. Tab through the dialog and set things as you wish. You must

activate the cloase button after making changes to save them.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: zahra
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 1:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio

recorder?


hi again every one specially gene and roger.
thanks extremely for your help, mp3 direct cut is exactly the software
that i need.
but the only problem for me is i cant record anything.
i only can delete the unnecessary part of my sounds.
what should i do to record mp3 with it?


On 11/12/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
But all the person wants to do is work with MP3 files. Audacity is a
more
complex program and just for recording and editing MP3 files, MP3 direct
Cut
is a bettter choice.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free
audio
recorder?


for me, I would use audicity



Gene 於 12/11/2017 4:40 寫道:

Mp3 Direct Cut meets all your requirements.

Gene
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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 1:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free
audio recorder?


Depends what you call simple. Many do record but as often when you do
this

you next need to edit the files, then I'd still use a program like
audacity
or if you can afford a little beit Goldwave.
There is virtual recorder but not tested it on XP as I think its aimed

at

those with sound cards that you cannot record streams from etc.

If you have a mobile phone, just press record is your thing.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 6:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free
audio
recorder?


> hello every one.
> i need one program which can record mp3, be freeware or opensource,
> safe, reliable, simple to use, supports all windows versions since
xp,
> accessible and if possible, without extra software offering.
> except jetaudio that i realy cant use, please help me.
> God bless you all!
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
> indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of
salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> www.al-islam.org
>
>
>







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org






--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: NVDA and office 2016

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

It does, certainly with JAWS, slow it down a bit.

 

With NVDA I haven’t tried it, but I always turned all panes off since Outlook 2003, since it slows them down measurably.

 

I’m not about to reduce performance on my machine, just for NVDA.

 

All the best

S

teve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 13 November 2017 13:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

I don't see how the folders view can cause performance differences whether it is on or off.  It doesn't do anything unless you move into it and do somethink like move to a different folder.  It is nothing but a treeview of folders that is loaded when the program is run and it just sits there if not used.  I suppose it may take an extremely small time, probably almost immeasurable, when you first run the program for the treeview to populate but it should not even be noticeable unless you compared program loading times using some sort of timing device..

 

Have you compared or are you assuming that it slows down performance in some way?  And then, there is the ques5tion of where the control y dialog gets its information when run.  It actually may be slower to open that dialog and have it populate every time you want to switch folders instead of having a treeview load once and remain.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:17 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

Hi,

 

Only if the folder pane is turned on.  I turn this off for performance reasons.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 13 November 2017 05:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

Control+shift+tab can be used to move to the folders list and then arrow through those and enter to select a new folder.

 

For reference, our issue on this is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7556 and we have been in discussion with Microsoft to have it resolved as soon as possible.  This particular issue was caused by a change Microsoft made, and it needed to be fixed by them rather than us.  I believe Microsoft has resolved the issue, which I think may currently be in Office insider builds (I haven't checked) and is due to filter across to public stable builds in December.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

 

 

On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:19 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

Hi Ian,

 

Thanks for the Shift-F6 option, but I can still make it crash using that.  But it is not all the time.

 

Outlook is definitely not pretty with NVDA, which brings me back to my point that I couldn’t use it at work.

 

Word is also pretty sluggish with large documents, but at least it doesn’t crash.  NVDA is simply not up there yet, except on the web.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ian Robinson
Sent: 10 November 2017 18:54


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

Hi,

 

If I press Control+y, select a folder and press Enter, then Outlook will crash.

If I press Shift+F6, select a folder and press Enter, then all works just fine.

 

If I press Control plus a number to select another part of Outlook, such as Calendar or People, then outlook will crash.

If I press Shift+F6 twice to get to the Navigation bar and use the cursor keys and Enter to select another part of Outlook then there is no crash.

 

Regards.

 

Ian

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 10 November 2017 18:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

How are you switching to folders?  I've seen this discussed before either here or on another list and crashing doesn't occur if you switch to folders in one way and it does if you switch in another.  I suspect that your expression crashing all over the place is extreme hyperbole as the only complaint I remember  seen is when switching folders and you are discussing it as well.  If a problem is a general one, it's fine to say so but if, as I suspect, it occurs only in switching folders, overstating the extent is misleading.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 11:18 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

Sorry joseph, but that answer is nonsense.

 

I have the latest build of Office 365 on the fast ring and it is still not fixed.

 

So I just opened NVDA, then I opened Outlook, then read some Email.  All was fine.  Then I switched to a folder, and Crash!  Outlook Has Stopped Working.

 

I don’t call that fixed, do you?

 

Now if the only screen reader I had was NVDA, and I was trying to earn a crust, what kind of support would I get?

 

Let me see, JAWS and Supernova have fixed the problem in Outlook, so what’s the difference?  Oh wait, they are paid for programs.

 

In the case of JAWS, I Emailed FS, and they told me it would be fixed very soon.  Then they released a patch for JAWS 18, which specifically fixed these folder crashes.

 

Now again, I’m in the workplace and I want to get my job done.  I Email nvaccess, and say help I can’t use my tool with NVDA that I could use before.  How long would I expect to wait to get a fix?

 

It’s been a long time guys for this fix to happen.

 

My point really is that in order to get that level of support in the workplace from NVAccess, I am guessing they’d have to pay a considerable amount.

 

So wouldn’t that be the same as buying a screen reader?  I come back to what I’ve always said, and before Laz pipes in, I know I am a supplier of access tech, including JAWS, I believe NVDA really only is for the hobbiest and is not a mission critical app.

 

Of course, I’d love to be proven wrong on this, but when the rubber hits the road, in terms of work, NVDA just doesn’t cut it.

 

Quickbooks is another example, there is no add-on for it, but there are JAWS scripts.  Most of the addons are for consumer products.

 

I personally would love to see the day when NVDA is good enough to use 24-7, but for me that day is not here yet.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 10 November 2017 17:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

Hi,

It also depends on which build of Office 365 you’ve got, because sometimes that makes a difference (fixes are in Outlook, for instance).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 7:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

Hi Quentin,

 

Now if we could persuade NVDA to stop crashing every time you change Outlook folders, Office would be usable again.

 

I know Freedom Sci had to hack around this problem with MS, something to do with UIA calls.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 08 November 2017 22:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

Hi Mary,

 

Office 2016 is in many ways similar to Office 2013.  NVDA works very well with both, and in a couple of cases, Microsoft have fixed bugs in 2016 so there are some things that work better.  I wrote the official NV Access training material for Microsoft Word and Excel using Office 2016.  The material itself works for Office 2010 to 2016 (I found in more cases I was noting a difference in the behaviour of Office 2010 compared to the other two, rather than a new difference in Office 2016).

 

If you are interested, our material is available from: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Mary Otten <motten53@...> wrote:

Hi all,
I was just looking on Jean‘s website, Accessibility central.net, and there was a tutorial there for using Microsoft Word with NVDA. It mentioned office 2013. I have a friend who uses a different screen reader, and he also uses 2013. Is 2016 accessible? I hope so, because that seems to be the currently available version.
Mary


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--

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Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

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Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Unveiling Braille Me - World's Most Affordable Smart Braille Display

Ann Byrne
 

How affordable is it???

At 07:17 AM 11/13/2017, you wrote:
Hi Josh,
I had been contacted by Shyam from Innovision a couple months ago with
regards to how adding support for a new Braille display driver works
in the case of NVDA. I had redirected Shyam to Jamie or Reef by
providing their e-mail addresses at that point in time. I am unaware
of whether or not he actually followed up with an NV Access staff
member, but what I can safely say is that supporting NVDA was very
much on their minds while developing this affordable Braille display.
Thanks.

On 11/13/17, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@gmail.com> wrote:
will this display work with NVDA also?




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Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 03:10:09 -0800
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To: joshknnd1982@gmail.com



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Re: Unveiling Braille Me - World's Most Affordable Smart Braille Display

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Josh,
I had been contacted by Shyam from Innovision a couple months ago with
regards to how adding support for a new Braille display driver works
in the case of NVDA. I had redirected Shyam to Jamie or Reef by
providing their e-mail addresses at that point in time. I am unaware
of whether or not he actually followed up with an NV Access staff
member, but what I can safely say is that supporting NVDA was very
much on their minds while developing this affordable Braille display.
Thanks.

On 11/13/17, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@gmail.com> wrote:
will this display work with NVDA also?




-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Unveiling Braille Me - World's Most Affordable Smart Braille
Display
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 03:10:09 -0800
From: Innovision <shyam@innovisiontech.co>
To: joshknnd1982@gmail.com



Greetings from Innovision!
This email is in reply to the Pre-order interest survey that you or a
representative from your firm submitted (link -
https://tinyurl.com/BrailleMe-Survey
<https://innovisiontech-dot-yamm-track.appspot.com/Redirect?ukey=1faNFNvnKA_4Ij1SFgAV4lloCizIP-yQHxS_P4iDZetA-0&key=YAMMID-71407346&link=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2FBrailleMe-Survey>).


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and our product, BrailleMe - a Smart Braille Display for the visually
impaired community.

I am excited to inform you that we are launching Braille Me, world's
most affordable smart braille display at USD 399/- on the 4th of
January celebrating the World Braille Day. Let me give you an overview
of Braille Me.

About Braille Me -

Ever Since Louis Braille invented the wonderful script of Braille, it
has been adopted all across the globe empowering millions of
individuals. Today, after 200 years we are on the verge of a revolution
in Braille. Braille Me, is built to bring digital braille to everyone
immaterial of their geographical, economic or lingual background.

It has a six-dot 20-cell braille display, a Perkins-style keypad, cursor
routing buttons and few navigation keys. It has capabilities to work as
a stand-alone editor and also connect to smartphones and computers via
Bluetooth and USB. It is a balanced device with core features of a
complex notetaker while having the simplicity of a braille display.

Braille Me has become possible due to two breakthroughs in Affordability
and multi-language. Braille Me is designed with our patented Braille
cell technology which makes the device cost-effective by an order of
magnitude compared to existing products and supports more than 40
languages spanning all across the globe.

To know more about Braille Me please check our demonstration video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz1cUZcf-1A
<https://innovisiontech-dot-yamm-track.appspot.com/Redirect?ukey=1faNFNvnKA_4Ij1SFgAV4lloCizIP-yQHxS_P4iDZetA-0&key=YAMMID-71407346&link=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DFz1cUZcf-1A>

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Reaching out:

We are eager to serve you and look forward to engaging with you.
Currently, we are looking for partners who can help us in the
distribution and training in your state/country. Please let us know if
you are part of or are in touch with any Institute for Visually
impaired, commercial distributors of disability aids or NGOs working in
your area.
Your help in identifying key partners would go a long way in expediting
distribution of Braille Me in your locality.

We hope you would join us in this effort to bring digital braille to
every student and professional in need.
In case you have any queries, please feel free to reach out to our team
at customercare@innovisiontech.co <mailto:info@innovisiontech.co>
We look forward to hearing from you.
--
Warm Regards
Shyam Shah
CEO & Co-founder
INNOVISION
www.innovisiontech.co
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Re: NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

Gene
 

I don't know what you mean by anything hiding.  Today's seccurity environment is dangerous enough that the feature is justified.  it can be circumvented by malware but that doesn't mean that all malware is designed to circumvent it.  Windows 7 is not annoying and you can use it almost identically to XP if you don't want to use the newer features it has.  I did a brief tutorial demonstrating this years ago during the wringing of hands period that almost always occurs almost every time a new version of Windows comes out. 
 
and why is there so much fuss about a feature that, when it comes on, you can answer by simply issuing the command alt y?  It's like complaining because if your name were one or two letters shorter, you could type it a fraction of a second faster. 
 
Social engineering is an important way of spreading malware.  So are other means such as having malicious code in hacked web site advertising.  And there are times when social engineering is intended to have you go to a malicious web site.
 
Gene

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Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

I do think, myself that windows 7 is annoying enough and why do these
screens tend to hide behind others?
 I feel like some kind of kinter garden child with it.
 Of course if you are in a high risk scenario then yes, but if you are
careful, I'm not convinced its going to save you as its the social
engineering approach that convinces you something is ok when its not that is
common these days.
 Brian

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From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a
problem with shut down


> Good point Gene. I don't find it annoying and this is coming from a guy
> who went from XP to WIN 10 back in September 2015.
>
>
> On 11/11/2017 6:01 PM, Gene wrote:
>> Most of the time, UAC doesn't cause problems. All you have to do if
>> you hear a UAC message is issue the command alt y because you are in a
>> dialog and you are saying yes to the question being asked. Why, in
>> today's security environment, would you turn off UAC when responding
>> is so simple?
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* The Wolf <mailto:hank.smith966@...>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 11, 2017 3:41 PM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when
>> there’s a problem with shut down
>>
>> start iac
>>
>> rather start minue
>>
>> type in uiac and set slider to 0
>>
>>
>> On 11/11/2017 2:35 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> > Speaking of uac, it used to be possible to disable that. I don’t
>> know if that’s still true with windows 10. It saves a lot of hassle. I
>> suppose there are security implications of coarse.
>> > Mary
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Nov 11, 2017, at 1:21 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...
>> <mailto:sm.everiss@...>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well the uac can be.
>> >>
>> >> To be honest when I get a system like this I just do a reformat and
>> load things myself and test, test, test.
>> >>
>> >> Usually when I load my configs it doesn't do that.
>> >>
>> >> If it does its bios, drivers or both.
>> >>
>> >> The issue is when I have to deal with user software which gets in
>> the way.
>> >>
>> >> I can do it that way but it takes longer, and costs the client and
>> myself more time.
>> >>
>> >> I'd prefur to just reformat and reinstall windows and then I have
>> an easier time.
>> >>
>> >> Ofcause after that loading each bit of software at a time will
>> eventually yeald the error.
>> >>
>> >> 9 times out of 10 at that stage its new or updated software.
>> >>
>> >> And if it gets to that state I use google.
>> >>
>> >> Sometimes a user needs a function and then just cracks software
>> that needs it or installs malware full software to get it working.
>> >>
>> >> At that point I just ask them for the function and then I can
>> google that.
>> >>
>> >> There is enough free opensource or low cost software that I either
>> find the entire package or the modules I need and if I am lucky a
>> wrapper front end to put them together.
>> >>
>> >> The issue is then to convince the user to use said software.
>> >>
>> >> I would to be honest ask the tech what stuff is on there.
>> >>
>> >> ANd just get it reformatted and ask to get its hardware tested the
>> unit cleaned, sure its going to cost a bit but you have already got it
>> in the shop and are generating costs so get it done.
>> >>
>> >> I have just had a system revived that stopped working the entire os
>> crashed, the system died.
>> >>
>> >> Regreasing the syncs, clearing the dust and replacing the power
>> supply and all small fans and its up.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On 12/11/2017 8:55 a.m., Mary Otten wrote:
>> >>> I have this new machine and it has NVDA on it. But in Vda does
>> not load at start up. We are having some problems with the machine,
>> and my husband thought he had narrowed it down to stuff screwing up
>> when you restart rather than shutting down the machine. Anyway, with
>> NVDA not loaded when the machine is shutting down, occasionally will
>> hang up and e speak will start talking. That is not the synthesizer I
>> have selected. But it does talk. And it is happened on a few
>> occasions. When he took it back to the store to let the tech look at
>> it, it did that once, and now the tech is blaming the whole thing on
>> NVDA. I’m sure that’s not correct, but I don’t know what to tell them.
>> >>> Mary
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>> .
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>




Re: NVDA and office 2016

Gene
 

I don't see how the folders view can cause performance differences whether it is on or off.  It doesn't do anything unless you move into it and do somethink like move to a different folder.  It is nothing but a treeview of folders that is loaded when the program is run and it just sits there if not used.  I suppose it may take an extremely small time, probably almost immeasurable, when you first run the program for the treeview to populate but it should not even be noticeable unless you compared program loading times using some sort of timing device..
 
Have you compared or are you assuming that it slows down performance in some way?  And then, there is the ques5tion of where the control y dialog gets its information when run.  It actually may be slower to open that dialog and have it populate every time you want to switch folders instead of having a treeview load once and remain.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

Hi,

 

Only if the folder pane is turned on.  I turn this off for performance reasons.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 13 November 2017 05:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

Control+shift+tab can be used to move to the folders list and then arrow through those and enter to select a new folder.

 

For reference, our issue on this is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7556 and we have been in discussion with Microsoft to have it resolved as soon as possible.  This particular issue was caused by a change Microsoft made, and it needed to be fixed by them rather than us.  I believe Microsoft has resolved the issue, which I think may currently be in Office insider builds (I haven't checked) and is due to filter across to public stable builds in December.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

 

 

On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:19 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

Hi Ian,

 

Thanks for the Shift-F6 option, but I can still make it crash using that.  But it is not all the time.

 

Outlook is definitely not pretty with NVDA, which brings me back to my point that I couldn’t use it at work.

 

Word is also pretty sluggish with large documents, but at least it doesn’t crash.  NVDA is simply not up there yet, except on the web.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ian Robinson
Sent: 10 November 2017 18:54


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

Hi,

 

If I press Control+y, select a folder and press Enter, then Outlook will crash.

If I press Shift+F6, select a folder and press Enter, then all works just fine.

 

If I press Control plus a number to select another part of Outlook, such as Calendar or People, then outlook will crash.

If I press Shift+F6 twice to get to the Navigation bar and use the cursor keys and Enter to select another part of Outlook then there is no crash.

 

Regards.

 

Ian

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 10 November 2017 18:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

How are you switching to folders?  I've seen this discussed before either here or on another list and crashing doesn't occur if you switch to folders in one way and it does if you switch in another.  I suspect that your expression crashing all over the place is extreme hyperbole as the only complaint I remember  seen is when switching folders and you are discussing it as well.  If a problem is a general one, it's fine to say so but if, as I suspect, it occurs only in switching folders, overstating the extent is misleading.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 11:18 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

Sorry joseph, but that answer is nonsense.

 

I have the latest build of Office 365 on the fast ring and it is still not fixed.

 

So I just opened NVDA, then I opened Outlook, then read some Email.  All was fine.  Then I switched to a folder, and Crash!  Outlook Has Stopped Working.

 

I don’t call that fixed, do you?

 

Now if the only screen reader I had was NVDA, and I was trying to earn a crust, what kind of support would I get?

 

Let me see, JAWS and Supernova have fixed the problem in Outlook, so what’s the difference?  Oh wait, they are paid for programs.

 

In the case of JAWS, I Emailed FS, and they told me it would be fixed very soon.  Then they released a patch for JAWS 18, which specifically fixed these folder crashes.

 

Now again, I’m in the workplace and I want to get my job done.  I Email nvaccess, and say help I can’t use my tool with NVDA that I could use before.  How long would I expect to wait to get a fix?

 

It’s been a long time guys for this fix to happen.

 

My point really is that in order to get that level of support in the workplace from NVAccess, I am guessing they’d have to pay a considerable amount.

 

So wouldn’t that be the same as buying a screen reader?  I come back to what I’ve always said, and before Laz pipes in, I know I am a supplier of access tech, including JAWS, I believe NVDA really only is for the hobbiest and is not a mission critical app.

 

Of course, I’d love to be proven wrong on this, but when the rubber hits the road, in terms of work, NVDA just doesn’t cut it.

 

Quickbooks is another example, there is no add-on for it, but there are JAWS scripts.  Most of the addons are for consumer products.

 

I personally would love to see the day when NVDA is good enough to use 24-7, but for me that day is not here yet.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 10 November 2017 17:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

Hi,

It also depends on which build of Office 365 you’ve got, because sometimes that makes a difference (fixes are in Outlook, for instance).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 7:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

Hi Quentin,

 

Now if we could persuade NVDA to stop crashing every time you change Outlook folders, Office would be usable again.

 

I know Freedom Sci had to hack around this problem with MS, something to do with UIA calls.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 08 November 2017 22:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and office 2016

 

Hi Mary,

 

Office 2016 is in many ways similar to Office 2013.  NVDA works very well with both, and in a couple of cases, Microsoft have fixed bugs in 2016 so there are some things that work better.  I wrote the official NV Access training material for Microsoft Word and Excel using Office 2016.  The material itself works for Office 2010 to 2016 (I found in more cases I was noting a difference in the behaviour of Office 2010 compared to the other two, rather than a new difference in Office 2016).

 

If you are interested, our material is available from: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Mary Otten <motten53@...> wrote:

Hi all,
I was just looking on Jean‘s website, Accessibility central.net, and there was a tutorial there for using Microsoft Word with NVDA. It mentioned office 2013. I have a friend who uses a different screen reader, and he also uses 2013. Is 2016 accessible? I hope so, because that seems to be the currently available version.
Mary


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