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Re: need a virtual ribben addon for NVDA
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Hi Gene
I was just reading the emails on this topic. If you allow me i can paste your tutorial up on Accessibilitycentral.net so others in the community can access it at any time to learn how to use them. it can go on a separate page and have the headings called split buttons and how to use ribbons with nvda. it will probably be along the same lines unless you want to give those sections a title each. the page it will most probably come off is nvda tutorials for other programs page just under the Microsoft word tutorial.
I was thinking along the lines of maybe doing a audio tutorial on using them which i can add to that page for other programs page. It would be a day or so before it goes up there.
That would be your written one.
I think i might have some thing written on the windows 10 page but am thinking of removing it any how.
I will put the tutorial is written by ..... unless you want it left off.
Gene nz
On 11/20/2017 10:25 AM, Gene wrote:
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers.
To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert exam.
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Re: nvda 2017.4RC1 and google chrome 62 latest google translate
Quentin Christensen
Josh, Did it work on NVDA 2017.3? Just confirming that it is an issue with the RC build rather than something which has been there for awhile. Quentin.
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 6:27 AM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:
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Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: nvda 2017.4rc1 and thunderbird version 52.4.0 (32-bit)
Robert Mendoza
Hi, here is the link. https://download.mozilla.org/?product=thunderbird-57.0b1-SSL&os=win&lang=en-US
On 11/20/2017 3:40 AM, Casey wrote:
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Re: nvda 2017.4rc1 and thunderbird version 52.4.0 (32-bit)
Robert Mendoza
Hi, Shaun! there is a beta version you may try it. the response for the nvda 2017.4 RC1 works fine and seemingly fast.
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On 11/20/2017 3:48 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
What I want to know is when thunderbird will actually get a release, there hasn't been one since 52 and while I don't mind as such as I use no addons at all, I would really like to see some improvements eventually.
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Re: Soulseek QT?
I agree, mbam is something I install in demo mode on a system with suspected infections and that needs clearing, but it doesn't stay on the systems in question long term.
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I run it and use it if the user reports a problem or if something stupid has gone on, but then its gone. It does what I need it to do and it is usable to the point where it does what it does, but I wouldn't use it to tie my own shoe laces with.
On 20/11/2017 9:14 a.m., JM Casey wrote:
Hey Sean.
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Re: Creating a profile for a program
Quentin Christensen
Hi Ann, To create a profile with no speech while you are in a particular program: 1. Ensure the program you want to create the profile for is running. 2. Press NVDA+n to open the NVDA menu 3. Press C to select "Configuration profiles" 4. Press alt+n to create a new profile 5. Type TT or whatever you like as the name of the profile. 6. Press tab once to "Use this profile for". 7. Press right arrow to move to "Current application TT" (or similar). 8. Press ENTER to create the profile. 9. Press NVDA+control+s to open the synthesizer dialog. 10. Press end to select "no speech". 11. Press ENTER to select that synthesizer. Now, whenever this program is active, NVDA won't speak. Regards Quentin.
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 6:02 AM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote: How do I create a profile to turn off NVDA speech for a self-voicing program? In the buttons on the profile screen is 'trigger' and 'manual'. I want the program to trigger turning speech off. --
Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: Soulseek QT?
Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
No.
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From: JM Casey Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 4:51 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Soulseek QT? Hey. That's very interesting. You'd think then it would also work in windows 10. Did you ever try running Soulseek QT in compatibility mode? -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: November 19, 2017 4:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Soulseek QT? When I was using W7, yes. -----Original Message----- From: JM Casey Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 2:16 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Soulseek QT? Hm, so wait, you got Soulseek QT to work on Windows 7? Not the NS client, right? The nS is the older client; I am using it now on Windows 10 but it has some problems, and hasn't been developed since probably the early days of XP. Still, at least it runs and is reasonably accessible, I guess. I would however like to use the current client if possible, because half the time people can't seem to download from me even though I have a nice connection, and the programme likes to disappear on me. Like, it will stay in the task manager as a process but the window is nowhere ... it's not in the taskbar or anything. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: November 19, 2017 2:54 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Soulseek QT? Did not work for me with jaws and W10. I was using it with W7 and work well. I also attempted to make it work with NVDA current, jaws 2018 and no go. I like the program but now is hard to use. -----Original Message----- From: JM Casey Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 1:34 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Soulseek QT? Hey everyone. I don't have much hope, but I wondered if anyone had success using this programme with NVDA? I did install it when I used JAWS exclusively and could not do a thing with it beyond the setup screen, which was accessible. It uses some library that writes directly to the screen, I think, and JAWS at least couldn't see a word beyond that point. But I feel like people who use NVDA are perhaps more willing to experiment and try things out, and I wondered if anyone here had managed to successfully use this? Right now, I do run Soulseek NS occasionally. It works ... ok, but doesn't always play nice with Windows 10, sometimes disappearing from the available windows altogether (even though it is still listed in task manager as a running process) and sometimes failing to start altogether, and I'm also not really convinced it is indexing my files properly. Soulseek NS hasn't been developed for probably ten years, so it'd be nice to get on board with QT, though I guess it's pretty cool that NS still works at all. I did find one or two forum posts about QT with screen-readers and it didn't really seem like there was a lot of interest in making it accessible. But those posts were from years ago, too, and sometimes I miss things with google searches. Just thought it was worth a shot! Cheers.
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Re: Firefox 57 again
mk360
Yeah. I've readed many mails about how firefox works with standar sites, but what about gmail standard? what about facebook? what about complex aria sites? I understand that many people doesn't use these sites, but these are important for some people.
Regards, mk.
El 19/11/2017 a las 20:05, JM Casey
escribió:
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Firefox 57 again
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
I got it today and it seems to work basically fine with NVDA so far. It’s just a bit slow. It does not seem to work at *all* with JAWS 18. I haven’t yet tested it on many websites, so it remains to be seen whether I’ll end up going back to the ESR or not. That’d certainly seem to be my only option if I want to use JAWS with this browser, but it’s really nice to see that it plays alright with NVDA. Maybe it works with JFW 2018, but my license is no good for that, so once again, as I knew it would, my gravitating toward NVDA has paid off.
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Re: Pivot tables in Excel
Quentin Christensen
Hi Rayn, The pivot table itself should be navigatable like other cells in Excel. Setting up the data for the pivot table uses a task pane which you can access via F6. You can then tab and arrow through the options to setup the data as needed. Microsoft have a basic tutorial on it here: https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Create-a-PivotTable-to-analyze-worksheet-data-A9A84538-BFE9-40A9-A8E9-F99134456576 Note where it talks about dragging and dropping fields, you can achieve the same by pressing the down arrow and selecting where you want to move something. Slicers are a way of filtering data. Unfortunately these are currently not accessible. We do have an open issue on this: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6605 You can still use the conventional filtering tool to filter data by moving to a column heading which has filtering enabled, press alt+down arrow, and select the options you want. Kind regards Quentin.
On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Rayn Darren <rayndarren@...> wrote:
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Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: Soulseek QT?
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Hey.
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That's very interesting. You'd think then it would also work in windows 10. Did you ever try running Soulseek QT in compatibility mode?
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: November 19, 2017 4:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Soulseek QT? When I was using W7, yes. -----Original Message----- From: JM Casey Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 2:16 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Soulseek QT? Hm, so wait, you got Soulseek QT to work on Windows 7? Not the NS client, right? The nS is the older client; I am using it now on Windows 10 but it has some problems, and hasn't been developed since probably the early days of XP. Still, at least it runs and is reasonably accessible, I guess. I would however like to use the current client if possible, because half the time people can't seem to download from me even though I have a nice connection, and the programme likes to disappear on me. Like, it will stay in the task manager as a process but the window is nowhere ... it's not in the taskbar or anything. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: November 19, 2017 2:54 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Soulseek QT? Did not work for me with jaws and W10. I was using it with W7 and work well. I also attempted to make it work with NVDA current, jaws 2018 and no go. I like the program but now is hard to use. -----Original Message----- From: JM Casey Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 1:34 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Soulseek QT? Hey everyone. I don't have much hope, but I wondered if anyone had success using this programme with NVDA? I did install it when I used JAWS exclusively and could not do a thing with it beyond the setup screen, which was accessible. It uses some library that writes directly to the screen, I think, and JAWS at least couldn't see a word beyond that point. But I feel like people who use NVDA are perhaps more willing to experiment and try things out, and I wondered if anyone here had managed to successfully use this? Right now, I do run Soulseek NS occasionally. It works ... ok, but doesn't always play nice with Windows 10, sometimes disappearing from the available windows altogether (even though it is still listed in task manager as a running process) and sometimes failing to start altogether, and I'm also not really convinced it is indexing my files properly. Soulseek NS hasn't been developed for probably ten years, so it'd be nice to get on board with QT, though I guess it's pretty cool that NS still works at all. I did find one or two forum posts about QT with screen-readers and it didn't really seem like there was a lot of interest in making it accessible. But those posts were from years ago, too, and sometimes I miss things with google searches. Just thought it was worth a shot! Cheers.
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My Firefox 57 issue
Sharni-Lee Ward
I know people have mentioned having issues with Firefox 57. I turned off
automatic updates but although I tried to activate the Not Now option yesterday, it still did the thing. The new Firefox is slower, but not so much so that I can't manage. However, it has frozen twice on different sites, slowing down the whole computer/NVDA's response time, and when I finally get to the Windows Task Manager, there are four instances of Firefox.exe. Has anyone else experienced this?
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Re: Soulseek QT?
Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
When I was using W7, yes.
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From: JM Casey Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 2:16 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Soulseek QT? Hm, so wait, you got Soulseek QT to work on Windows 7? Not the NS client, right? The nS is the older client; I am using it now on Windows 10 but it has some problems, and hasn't been developed since probably the early days of XP. Still, at least it runs and is reasonably accessible, I guess. I would however like to use the current client if possible, because half the time people can't seem to download from me even though I have a nice connection, and the programme likes to disappear on me. Like, it will stay in the task manager as a process but the window is nowhere ... it's not in the taskbar or anything. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: November 19, 2017 2:54 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Soulseek QT? Did not work for me with jaws and W10. I was using it with W7 and work well. I also attempted to make it work with NVDA current, jaws 2018 and no go. I like the program but now is hard to use. -----Original Message----- From: JM Casey Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 1:34 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Soulseek QT? Hey everyone. I don't have much hope, but I wondered if anyone had success using this programme with NVDA? I did install it when I used JAWS exclusively and could not do a thing with it beyond the setup screen, which was accessible. It uses some library that writes directly to the screen, I think, and JAWS at least couldn't see a word beyond that point. But I feel like people who use NVDA are perhaps more willing to experiment and try things out, and I wondered if anyone here had managed to successfully use this? Right now, I do run Soulseek NS occasionally. It works ... ok, but doesn't always play nice with Windows 10, sometimes disappearing from the available windows altogether (even though it is still listed in task manager as a running process) and sometimes failing to start altogether, and I'm also not really convinced it is indexing my files properly. Soulseek NS hasn't been developed for probably ten years, so it'd be nice to get on board with QT, though I guess it's pretty cool that NS still works at all. I did find one or two forum posts about QT with screen-readers and it didn't really seem like there was a lot of interest in making it accessible. But those posts were from years ago, too, and sometimes I miss things with google searches. Just thought it was worth a shot! Cheers.
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Re: FW: [nvda-addons] Add-on updates: GoldWave 17.11, SystrayList 2.1
#addonrelease
Hello Joseph, Are there translation updates for SystrayList? Our bulgarian
translation was complete a long time ago (maybe a little after
v2.0 was released), but even with v2.1 it is not included and some
strings remain untranslated. Actually, now I've checked and it
seams that the complete bulgarian translation is included, but
still some strings (e.g. the label of the list of taskbar buttons)
remain in english. Can you please check out what is going on? ______ На 19.11.2017 г. в 22:01, Joseph Lee
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Re: need a virtual ribben addon for NVDA
Mary Otten <motten53@...>
OK, sorry about the mix up. I would appreciate it and thank you in advance. Mary Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 19, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
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Re: need a virtual ribben addon for NVDA
Gene
Here is the tutorial, below my
signature.
Gene
I'll provide a brief tutorial based on what I wrote
years ago of how to work with ribbons.
I've added a little to it here.
I don't know how the organization of Windows has
changed in Windows 10 but this description should allow you to look through the
Windows ribbons, or any other ribbons, and see how things are organized.
First, I'll discuss a structure found in later
versions of Windows that you need to know about-- the split button.
One thing you will see as you look around ribbons and in other places in Windows are split buttons. A split button often allows you to see more options than just the default action. Let's take an example. Let's say you come across a split button that says shut down Windows. If you press enter on that button, Windows will shut down. That is the default action. Split buttons often show more options if you either right arrow while on the button or down arrow. As an example, if you are on the shut down split button, you can right arrow and a list of options will open. the items in the list include sleep, hibernate, restart, and others. You up or down arrow through the list or use the short cut commands you hear announced as you move through the list. the letter shortcuts often take actions without pressing enter so be careful when using them, just as you are in menus. So, let's review. You find a split button
that says shut down. If you press enter, the computer will shut down. If
you right arrow, other options may be displayed. Or if you down arrow,
other options may be displayed. A split button won't work with both
methods. One method, either right arrowing or down arrowing will do so if
it can be done with the button. Try both methods if you don't know which
one might work. If you are on a tool bar which extends across the screen
from left to right, down arrowing will open additional options. If you
think about this, it makes sense. If you are in a menu, down arrowing will
move you to the next item in the menu. So you right arrow on the split
button to cause it to display more options. In a tool bar that extends
across the screen from left to right, right arrowing will move you to the next
item in the tool bar. So you down arrow when on the split button to cause
it to display more options. But some tool bars run up and down the screen,
as menus do. And at times, you may not be sure which way a structure
extends on screen. So, as I said, if you are not sure or don't know, try
both methods of causing the split button to display more options. Often,
one of them will work. If you open the options a split button offers and don't
want to work with them, arrow in the opposite direction to move out of
them. For example, if you right arrowed to open more options, left
arrow.
Some split buttons don't do anything when you right arrow or down arrow. In that case, open them with alt down arrow. Then tab through the additional options. I've almost never worked in this way with split buttons but if you want to close a split button, try alt up arrow if you've used alt down arrow to open it. Now, to ribbons themselves.
Regarding ribbons, much of the complaining about
them is not warranted if you understand how they work and how to use short cut
commands effectively and efficiently. and I would strongly recommend
against using the JAWS virtual menus, no matter what the JAWS training material
says about ribbons being difficult to use. the training material is just
plain wrong and using virtual menus, you will be unnecessarily dependent on one
screen-reader. There are other disadvantages to using them which I won't
go into here.
Try looking at ribbons and doing what is described
below in wordpad. Everyone with Windows 7 has Wordpad on their
machine. Wordpad provides a good environment to look at and practice
working with ribbons.
The essence of working with ribbons is
this:
Press alt to move to the upper ribbon. You will probably be on an item that says home tab. Items on the upper ribbon are announced as tabs such as home tab, view tab, etc. To see what ribbons are available, right or left arrow repeatedly to move through the ribbons. Move in one direction to move through all of them, just as you would to move through all the menus. For this demonstration, just so we are all doing
the same thing, move with the right arrow. When you get back to where you
started, you can keep right arrowing to move through the items again, if you
wish. You can move through all the items as many times as you want. Or you
can move with the left arrow whenever you want to move in the opposite
direction.
Stop on view. Then start tabbing. You
will move through all items in what is called the lower ribbon that are in the
view ribbon.
In other words you tab to see the items in a ribbon
once you move to it. Tab moves you forward through the items, shift tab
moves you backword.
So tab and shift tab are used instead of up and down arrow. Many items in the lower ribbon are buttons.
Use either the space bar or enter to activate the button. You may find a button
that opens a menu and if you press enter or the space bar, you will then be in a
menu.
Each time you move to an item, you will hear the
short cut command to work with that item.
But JAWS has a bug and you often won't. To hear the short cut, use the command JAWS key tab. If you are using the default JAWS key, it is either insert. Try tabbing to an item in a Wordpad ribbon and
using the command insert tab. You will hear some extraneous
information. The last thing you will hear is the short cut sequence.
You can repeat the information by repeating the command as often as you
want.
Let's look at an item which is usually called the
application menu. Return to the main program window in wordpad by closing
the ribbons. You can either press escape repeatedly, if necessary, or you
can press alt once. Now, open the ribbons again with alt.
Start right arrowing until you get to the application menu. You will hear application menu and then something like button drop down grid. Never mind drop down grid. It's a description you don't have to worry about. The important things are that you are on a button and at the application menu. Press enter or the space bar to activate the button. Activating the button opens the menu. Start down arrowing. you will hear all the short cut commands necessary to open an item or take an action. When you got to the menu item, you heard alt f. When you open the menu and move through it, you will hear all the letters announced. for example, if you down arrow to save as, you will hear alt f a. that means that, when you are in the main program window, you open the menu as you always did, alt f, then type a. Alt f opens the menau and a then opens save as. Ribbon programs have one menu and you should look through it. Many important and common commands and interfaces such as options may be there. By options, I mean the kind of options interface you used to find in the tools menu. Now the we have seen the menu, let's look at the
ribbons structure some more.
To review, and add more information, as you have seen, you can move to the ribbon interface with alt. Then right and left arrow, just as you would move from menu to menu. You can also move to a ribbon using alt and a letter. So, alt h takes you to the home ribbon. Alt v takes you to the view ribbon, etc. Once you are on the ribbon you want to work with, tab to move forward through the items in a ribbon. Shift tab to move back through the items. So tab and shift tab are used instead of up and down arrow. Ribbons are divided into categories which you will hear announced as you tab. for example, in an e-mail program, a ribbon may have a category named respond. You may hear this announced as respond tool bar. As you tab, you will hear commands such as reply and forward in the respond category. When you hear a category announced, don't tab until you hear everything spoken. You will miss the first command in the category if you do. I'm talking about working with an unfamiliar ribbon. there are often many more commands and items in a ribbon than in a menu. So memorize command sequences for items you know you will use regularly. As I said, there are different categories in ribbons to help organize items. You can quickly jump from category to category in a ribbon to help you see if there is a category you want to look through. Move to a ribbon in Wordpad. For example, alt h for hhome or alt v for view. Then repeatedly issue the command control right arrow to move forward from category to category and control left arrow to move back. When you get to a category you want to hear the items in, start tabbing. Of course, you can shift tab to move back. Open a ribbon in Wordpad and tab through it to see
how it is organized by moving through it.
Then use control right arrow to move by category and tab to see what is in a category. Commands such as control o, control n, control s,
control r, etc. are mostly retained in programs that use ribbons, though you won't hear them announced. If you don't already know them, you'll have to find them in ways such as by looking at a list of keyboard commands for the program. Such lists are often available in the help for the program. If you already know the commands from having used an older version of the program, most or perhaps even all of the commands you know will work.
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Re: need a virtual ribben addon for NVDA
Gene
That is a different Gene. I don't know if he
put the tutorial I did on his site. I don't restrict use of it in any way
so it may be there. Also, I send it in e-mail messages and I never thought
of giving it a title. I just paste it into the message and send it where
people want it. So if people have placed it on web sites, I don't know
what they may call it.
I'll send it in a following message.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] need a virtual ribben addon for
NVDA Hi Jean,
Wasn’t that tutorial on your Accessibility central website? I actually went looking for yesterday, maybe I wasn’t in the right section, but I didn’t find it. Mary Sent from my iPhone
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Re: need a virtual ribben addon for NVDA
Mary Otten <motten53@...>
Hi Jean, Wasn’t that tutorial on your Accessibility central website? I actually went looking for yesterday, maybe I wasn’t in the right section, but I didn’t find it. Mary Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 19, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
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nvda and thunderbird 57 beta
Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
HI The latest thunderbird 57 beta is working a lot better. Thanks
for the suggestion. Now all NVDA folks have to do is I think come
up with a way to make nvda stop throwing me out of focus mode when
trying to choose translation languages in google translate website
with google chrome.
Josh
-- sent with mozilla thunderbird
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Re: Soulseek QT?
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Hey Sean.
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At first I was confused and not sure why you were referring to malwarebytes, but after reading the whole message, I think I get it. These programmes use the same library and bypass the operating system for screen drawing? I don't fully understand the issues involved but I guess I have a vague notion. I do find malwarebytes good enough to use but yes, I agree it's not an awesome experience ... but then it's the sort of programme you just run and then leave, not something you have up and always want to fiddle with. I need more feedback than that from Soulseek. I already have issues with NS, but I guess what you're saying is that I too will just have to settle for "good enough for now, I guess"?
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss Sent: November 19, 2017 3:01 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Soulseek QT? qt has some accessibility doings. Sadly it doesn't seem everyone impliments these right. Malwarebytes really does try, but its not what I'd call a tidy program. I mean it works to the point I can hit buttons and review bits of info but I can't check or uncheck, and reading is well its just rough as a bed of nails is all. The only program that uses qt in my opinion that even works nicely is teamtalk. And thats only probably because its dev just transfered the classic interface as an option without it it does work ok to. He does use tolque which in itself is an accessibility library which controls readers and tells them what they should be saying. Sadly not to many things use something like this outside maybe blind games. On 20/11/2017 8:34 a.m., JM Casey wrote: Hey everyone.
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