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Re: NVDA will not start

Brice Mijares
 

I too was a 20 year user of window eyes and migrated to Jaws, and paid the 129 dollars for the 2 upgrades and still haven't use Jaws. NVDA to me was less complicated, than jaws.

On 11/23/2017 11:37 AM, Sky Mundell wrote:
Hello Angela. I agree with you that NVDA is a great alternative to JAWS.
There are organisations starting to embrace it. To answer your question as
to why people think that JAWS is the only option, it has to do with the fact
a lot of them had not checked out NVDA, and they think, "well, if its free,
it can't compare to JAWS. I really think that you'll start to see more
organisations embracing NVDA in the long term. I come from both a JAWS and a
Window-Eyes background. I started in 2000 using JAWS 3.5, then, in 2006, got
my own copy of Window-Eyes and used that until 2017 before switching to NVDA
and boy NVDA is indeed faster. Its even more faster on my SSD solid state
hard drive that I have.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angela
Delicata
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 11:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA will not start
Hi,
I finally decided to switch fromJaws to NVDA and find it so good: I wonder
why people always think of Jaws as the only option and don't choose this
great open source screen reader... It seems really fantastic!
The good thing is: there are all commands available in the help menu, so
every one can learn... And I think it does many many things: now it can be
compared  to Jaws! It is even faster! The transition is smooth and have no
problems at all.
And I updated to the latest version with no particular nuisance.
Thank you so much to the wonderful devs who make it better every day!
Sorry for my terrible English, but I wanted to thank you those who put
effort on what they do.
Ciao
Angela from Italy
Il 23/11/2017 20:18, Shaun Everiss ha scritto:
have you tried to go to %appdata% and clobber the nvda folder?

Maybe a mangled setting.

I have had soundcards do bad things and need driver updates to.




On 24/11/2017 6:36 a.m., ely.r@comcast.net wrote:
First, I am relatively new to NVDA having worked with both WindowEyes
and JAWS. I have been a TVI for longer than it seems possible. At
present, I continue that teaching, but have started working with
seniors, a group that I am proud to say I am a member. NVDA is a real
option for my age group as many are no longer employed and don't
qualify for many aspects of rehabilitation services and many of whom
are on fixed incomes that may prevent them from affording other
options.

I have been learning NVDA for eight months or so and find the
transition from other screen readers quite easy. However, I am stuck
at the moment as NVDA will simply not run.

I had used it several weeks ago and needed to get back to building
skills. I tried the usual things and finally uninstalled NVDA and
reinstalled with the newest version. The install appeared to go
without a hitch and the default voice spoke through the end of the
process. Unfortunately, NVDA will still not run even when activated
from the program group directly. ,

I would love any next step suggestions  to try and sort this out.
Many thanks,
Ric




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Re: can't upgrade to the nvda 2017.4 rc

Brice Mijares
 

I have some experience with the Geek Squad. They service my laptop a couple of years ago and once it came back, I had webroot on my system.


Re: NVDA will not start

Sky Mundell
 

Hello Angela. I agree with you that NVDA is a great alternative to JAWS.
There are organisations starting to embrace it. To answer your question as
to why people think that JAWS is the only option, it has to do with the fact
a lot of them had not checked out NVDA, and they think, "well, if its free,
it can't compare to JAWS. I really think that you'll start to see more
organisations embracing NVDA in the long term. I come from both a JAWS and a
Window-Eyes background. I started in 2000 using JAWS 3.5, then, in 2006, got
my own copy of Window-Eyes and used that until 2017 before switching to NVDA
and boy NVDA is indeed faster. Its even more faster on my SSD solid state
hard drive that I have.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angela
Delicata
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 11:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA will not start

Hi,

I finally decided to switch fromJaws to NVDA and find it so good: I wonder
why people always think of Jaws as the only option and don't choose this
great open source screen reader... It seems really fantastic!

The good thing is: there are all commands available in the help menu, so
every one can learn... And I think it does many many things: now it can be
compared  to Jaws! It is even faster! The transition is smooth and have no
problems at all.

And I updated to the latest version with no particular nuisance.

Thank you so much to the wonderful devs who make it better every day!

Sorry for my terrible English, but I wanted to thank you those who put
effort on what they do.
Ciao
Angela from Italy

Il 23/11/2017 20:18, Shaun Everiss ha scritto:
have you tried to go to %appdata% and clobber the nvda folder?

Maybe a mangled setting.

I have had soundcards do bad things and need driver updates to.




On 24/11/2017 6:36 a.m., ely.r@comcast.net wrote:
First, I am relatively new to NVDA having worked with both WindowEyes
and JAWS. I have been a TVI for longer than it seems possible. At
present, I continue that teaching, but have started working with
seniors, a group that I am proud to say I am a member. NVDA is a real
option for my age group as many are no longer employed and don't
qualify for many aspects of rehabilitation services and many of whom
are on fixed incomes that may prevent them from affording other
options.

I have been learning NVDA for eight months or so and find the
transition from other screen readers quite easy. However, I am stuck
at the moment as NVDA will simply not run.

I had used it several weeks ago and needed to get back to building
skills. I tried the usual things and finally uninstalled NVDA and
reinstalled with the newest version. The install appeared to go
without a hitch and the default voice spoke through the end of the
process. Unfortunately, NVDA will still not run even when activated
from the program group directly. ,

I would love any next step suggestions  to try and sort this out.
Many thanks,
Ric




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Re: [Nvda-devel] NVDA 2017.4rc2 now available for testing

Brice Mijares
 

That would be beyond my knowledge of Windows 10. Thanks.

On 11/23/2017 11:14 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I wonder if its a side effect of this new problem on windows 10 fall creators update where it cannot change things on the desktop if it has certain rights set?
It seems odd though as if you had it set up already, then why should it be changed?
Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Brice Mijares" <bricemijares@att.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] [Nvda-devel] NVDA 2017.4rc2 now available for testing

Before shutting my system down last night I manually installed the latest version of NVDA. This morning I booted my system and heard the E-speak welcome message at the login screen and nothing after that. I have NVDA set to start after boot up but it didn't work. I went into settings and it wasn't checked to start after boot up. Is this normal for your settings to change? Thanks.



Re: NVDA will not start

Angela Delicata
 

Hi,

I finally decided to switch fromJaws to NVDA and find it so good: I wonder why people always think of Jaws as the only option and don't choose this great open source screen reader... It seems really fantastic!

The good thing is: there are all commands available in the help menu, so every one can learn... And I think it does many many things: now it can be compared  to Jaws! It is even faster! The transition is smooth and have no problems at all.

And I updated to the latest version with no particular nuisance.

Thank you so much to the wonderful devs who make it better every day!

Sorry for my terrible English, but I wanted to thank you those who put effort on what they do.
Ciao
Angela from Italy

Il 23/11/2017 20:18, Shaun Everiss ha scritto:
have you tried to go to %appdata% and clobber the nvda folder?

Maybe a mangled setting.

I have had soundcards do bad things and need driver updates to.




On 24/11/2017 6:36 a.m., ely.r@comcast.net wrote:
First, I am relatively new to NVDA having worked with both WindowEyes and
JAWS. I have been a TVI for longer than it seems possible. At present, I
continue that teaching, but have started working with seniors, a group that
I am proud to say I am a member. NVDA is a real option for my age group as
many are no longer employed and don't qualify for many aspects of
rehabilitation services and many of whom are on fixed incomes that may
prevent them from affording other options.

I have been learning NVDA for eight months or so and find the transition
from other screen readers quite easy. However, I am stuck at the moment as
NVDA will simply not run.

I had used it several weeks ago and needed to get back to building skills. I
tried the usual things and finally uninstalled NVDA and reinstalled with the
newest version. The install appeared to go without a hitch and the default
voice spoke through the end of the process. Unfortunately, NVDA will still
not run even when activated from the program group directly. ,

I would love any next step suggestions  to try and sort this out.
Many thanks,
Ric



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Re: email reads as pain, no text shown in body #msftaccessibility

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Oh dear I'm getting replies before the originals in this list again.

I seem to think that I ended up in html display mode and stopping the preview pane in the end It does block dodgy pictures and other bits of code normally.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "larry k" <sir-laurence@att.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] email reads as pain, no text shown in body #msftaccessibility


using windows live mail any ideas? as to how to show text all the time?


Re: [Nvda-devel] NVDA 2017.4rc2 now available for testing

Brice Mijares
 

Thanks for the info. I'll remember this for the future.

On 11/23/2017 10:50 AM, Arlene wrote:
Hi, I've seen this in an older version of NVDA. I just went to the settings and reset it to my liking.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: November-23-17 8:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] [Nvda-devel] NVDA 2017.4rc2 now available for testing
Before shutting my system down last night I manually installed the latest version of NVDA. This morning I booted my system and heard the E-speak welcome message at the login screen and nothing after that. I have NVDA set to start after boot up but it didn't work. I went into settings and it wasn't checked to start after boot up. Is this normal for your settings to change? Thanks.


Re: email reads as pain, no text shown in body #msftaccessibility

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Does it not work in html though, though i have to say, live mail nearly always gave me a headache. Hence my doctored Outlook express in windows 7.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] email reads as pain, no text shown in body #msftaccessibility


I don't have time to give a detailed answer now but I'll tell you how to work around the problem. If you have problems or questions, ask and I'll reply when I have more time later today. The essence is that you are reading mail as plaint text and Windows Live Mail, the newer version, won't read mail as plain text when using some screen-readers and opening the message.
If you show the reading pane, move to a message in the list, and tab once you can read it in the view pane. I prefer this method because it is faster than opening and closing messages. then, when finished, either tab twice to get back to the message list or shift tab once to get back to it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: larry k
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 12:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] email reads as pain, no text shown in body #msftaccessibility


using windows live mail any ideas? as to how to show text all the time?


Re: NVDA will not start

 

have you tried to go to %appdata% and clobber the nvda folder?

Maybe a mangled setting.

I have had soundcards do bad things and need driver updates to.

On 24/11/2017 6:36 a.m., ely.r@comcast.net wrote:
First, I am relatively new to NVDA having worked with both WindowEyes and
JAWS. I have been a TVI for longer than it seems possible. At present, I
continue that teaching, but have started working with seniors, a group that
I am proud to say I am a member. NVDA is a real option for my age group as
many are no longer employed and don't qualify for many aspects of
rehabilitation services and many of whom are on fixed incomes that may
prevent them from affording other options.

I have been learning NVDA for eight months or so and find the transition
from other screen readers quite easy. However, I am stuck at the moment as
NVDA will simply not run.

I had used it several weeks ago and needed to get back to building skills. I
tried the usual things and finally uninstalled NVDA and reinstalled with the
newest version. The install appeared to go without a hitch and the default
voice spoke through the end of the process. Unfortunately, NVDA will still
not run even when activated from the program group directly. ,

I would love any next step suggestions to try and sort this out.
Many thanks,
Ric


Re: can't upgrade to the nvda 2017.4 rc

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Don't know that was not what was said, anyway, I'm not about to try it!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't upgrade to the nvda 2017.4 rc


Isn't it just plain webroot?

On 11/22/2017 11:51 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Hmm when I look up web rooter it gives me Canadian plumbers!
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:27 AM
Subject: [nvda] can't upgrade to the nvda 2017.4 rc


Hi, everyone,



I'm using narrator to write this message. I tried to update to nvda 2017.4
RC but when I tried to update to that version, something blocked it from
coming up. I called the microsoft disability line and they couldn't get it
to come up either. When Best Buys repaired my computer, they put on this
thing called web rooter or something like that. I don't know what to do.
They also installed C cleaner which I really didn't need. How do I allow web
rooter to unblock nvda so I can upgrade?



Thanks for your help in advance.







Rosemarie









Re: [Nvda-devel] NVDA 2017.4rc2 now available for testing

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I wonder if its a side effect of this new problem on windows 10 fall creators update where it cannot change things on the desktop if it has certain rights set?
It seems odd though as if you had it set up already, then why should it be changed?
Brian

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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] [Nvda-devel] NVDA 2017.4rc2 now available for testing


Before shutting my system down last night I manually installed the latest version of NVDA. This morning I booted my system and heard the E-speak welcome message at the login screen and nothing after that. I have NVDA set to start after boot up but it didn't work. I went into settings and it wasn't checked to start after boot up. Is this normal for your settings to change? Thanks.


Re: email reads as pain, no text shown in body #msftaccessibility

Gene
 

I don't have time to give a detailed answer now but I'll tell you how to work around the problem.  If you have problems or questions, ask and I'll reply when I have more time later today.  The essence is that you are reading mail as plaint text and Windows Live Mail, the newer version, won't read mail as plain text when using some screen-readers and opening the message. 
If you show the reading pane, move to a message in the list, and tab once you can read it in the view pane.  I prefer this method because it is faster than opening and closing messages.  then, when finished, either tab twice to get back to the message list or shift tab once to get back to it.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: larry k
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 12:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] email reads as pain, no text shown in body #msftaccessibility

using windows live mail  any ideas? as to how to show text all the time?


Re: [Nvda-devel] NVDA 2017.4rc2 now available for testing

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Not at all, it worked for me though.
Maybe it needs reporting.
Brian

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From: "Brice Mijares" <bricemijares@att.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] [Nvda-devel] NVDA 2017.4rc2 now available for testing


Before shutting my system down last night I manually installed the latest version of NVDA. This morning I booted my system and heard the E-speak welcome message at the login screen and nothing after that. I have NVDA set to start after boot up but it didn't work. I went into settings and it wasn't checked to start after boot up. Is this normal for your settings to change? Thanks.


Re: Finding the "Add to Cart" Button on Amazon

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I tend to use b, but often they mess you about by suggesting you buy something else with it, and untill you mess with thos checkboxes to indicate what you want the button is not active. Its all part of them trying to make you buy more than you intended. I recently wanted to by a set of headphones and it kept asking me if I wanted to bundle them with some blue tooth ear buds. Last time I looked I still only had two ears!

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:30 PM
Subject: [nvda] Finding the "Add to Cart" Button on Amazon


Is there any way to find the "Add to Cart" button with NVDA on the
regular, not the accessible, Amazon web site? If so, how does one do this?

--
Rich De Steno


NVDA will not start

ely.r@...
 

First, I am relatively new to NVDA having worked with both WindowEyes and JAWS. I have been a TVI for longer than it seems possible. At present, I continue that teaching, but have started working with seniors, a group that I am proud to say I am a member. NVDA is a real option for my age group as many are no longer employed and don’t qualify for many aspects of rehabilitation services and many of whom are on fixed incomes that may prevent them from affording other options.

I have been learning NVDA for eight months or so and find the transition from other screen readers quite easy. However, I am stuck at the moment as NVDA will simply not run.

I had used it several weeks ago and needed to get back to building skills. I tried the usual things and finally uninstalled NVDA and reinstalled with the newest version. The install appeared to go without a hitch and the default voice spoke through the end of the process. Unfortunately, NVDA will still not run even when activated from the program group directly. ,

I would love any next step suggestions  to try and sort this out.

Many thanks,

Ric


Re: [Nvda-devel] NVDA 2017.4rc2 now available for testing

Arlene
 

Hi, I've seen this in an older version of NVDA. I just went to the settings and reset it to my liking.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: November-23-17 8:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] [Nvda-devel] NVDA 2017.4rc2 now available for testing

Before shutting my system down last night I manually installed the latest version of NVDA. This morning I booted my system and heard the E-speak welcome message at the login screen and nothing after that. I have NVDA set to start after boot up but it didn't work. I went into settings and it wasn't checked to start after boot up. Is this normal for your settings to change? Thanks.


Re: chromebook

 

Well it does appear with firefox that you do need a faster processer.

I have found especially on sites like facebook, twitter and especially youtube the amount of semi lockups and processer spikes is insane.

Yesterday I tried noscript and it was basically inaccessible then I found that mozilla has basically killed the menu uis so everyone needs to use buttons which we can't even access.

Unless there is a hack to make the websites I know think firefox esr is always the latest firefox or whatever and it is accessible I will have to use chrome which I just have some issues with, ff57 which while its not optimal I can use, firefox 56.02 which I am seriously thinking of using, waterfox or something.

To be honest I am seriously wandering if opera is better than what we have now.

This can't go on though.

Every session on firefox it sometimes locks, a refresh may fix it for a few days, a reset a couple days more.

But this just has to stop.

It seems the gecco engine was more responsive than this new crappy one.

And while my processer is an old i5 duel 64 bit I have used other 64 bit programs on here and well it shouldn't be this bad.

Is the 32 bit firefox 57 better on average cpus I wander.

I wasn't going to go back me having a 64 bit cpu but I may have no choice.

Seriously thinking of waterfox or one of the older builds at least for the next few months.

For those that run firefox beta or dev, should I bite the bullet and upgrade to dev or beta, I don't mind, I really don't care to go backward since if this is the new black I really should be getting used to it.

One thing which is a reall hamper to me is the fact that the new ui in addon options just doesn't work with any addons, in fact with noscript not only will things not read but firefox simply doesn't respond till I close it and the cpu races with the fans.

I know people have to modernise, but after using firefox for a month its clear that accessibility is no longer in mozillas court right at this moment.

The gecco engine still worked, and I wander if we can get our own brouser using that, I know its old tech but to be honest it worked.

One thing is for sure, when I upgrade to 10, I am going to seriously concidderedge after my bluster about not doing so.

If edge is using what is essentually the new way of doing things and if everyone else is trying to get access to that tech maybe I should to.

I can't run noscript anyway.

On 24/11/2017 5:03 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
No, several radio adverts are going on about cheap laptops using them in this black Friday sell off. They are after all just cut down older Pentium chips in reality. I'm not a great fan of some of the other chips like core duo and some of the cut down amds either.
To me these days with the overhead of a screenreader and the heavy use of graphics in software you need at least a full i3, and preferably  5 or better. 5 seems OK to me but less than 8 gig of ram tends to make it start getting jerky.
In many ways, its the fault of the software, as I have said many times, what really have we gained over the years from the function point of view, just prettier pictures and more storage and hence more need to find some way to back it all up!

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Governor staten" <govsta@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] chromebook


For me, I'm not a fan of Celeron processors in anything or anywhere.



------------------------------------------------------------------------


On 11/23/2017 5:24 AM, Sally Kiebdaj wrote:

Hello guys,


I have had a chromebook for several years now and regularly use
chromevox with chrome browser on other platforms.


Mostly, I use it for google web applications but it connects to USB
storage and so I will also hook it to my portable hard drive for
working offline. Many of the native google apps do work offline on the
chromebook and then sync once you have an internet connection again.
There are also some apps specifically designed for offline use and
most chromebooks have SD card slots of varying capacity for expanding
storage.


For an idea of what is available, look at the chrome web store:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/category/apps


As others have stated, it does not run NVDA or any other windows
applications. That said, chromevox, the native screen reader, has
improved greatly over the years I have had the device and in its
latest iteration is quite convenient and in terms of web browsing key
layout fairly similar to NVDA.

I am not sure that it has audio editing software but it definitely
does have a basic audio player built in for offline use.

I would never have it as my primary computer but do enjoy using it for
travel, reading recipes in the kitchen, or really any other time that
I don't want to risk my more expensive windows or Mac machines.

do be careful to get one of the chromebooks with a fast processor or
the screen reader can lag too much for my patience. I regularly use
two other chromebooks owned by family and the initial load time for
the screen reader or responsiveness on complex websites is a bit too
laggy on those machines. Mine was one of the original ones offered to
the public and has held up brilliantly through OS updates. It is still
faster than the two other machines I mentioned which are much newer
but lower end in terms of hardware.
Hope this information helps a bit and feel free to write me off-list
with any more specific questions.

Cheers,
Sally
fiddle.pup@gmail.com
On 11/23/2017 3:41 AM, David Moore wrote:

Thanks Brian!

That is what I am seeing as well. I can use a lot of programs and do
a lot with my HP Stream laptop with just a 32 Gig SSD drive that
costs only $180.00

I have Win10 1709 on it, and I am only using 16 GB, and that is even
with JAWS and NVDA, VLC Media player, and many other programs. I use
the portable version of Firefox, and that works great along with
using Edge and IE 11 a little.

Have a great one!

David Moore

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Not really, its pretty limited as far as I can see as most storage is

through the cloud.

Chromevox is also a little clunky. Not sure considering the costs if
one of

these has much of a place in the market these days considering what
yu can

do on a cheap amazon Tablet or a low end windows laptop.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----

From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@gmail.com>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 2:03 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] chromebook

I am curious,

I have read a lot about Chrome Books, and I still can’t figure out what

music player you can install on the machine, for example. Is all you
can use

are apps on the Internet like the Chrome apps like Google Docs, Google

sheets, Google Play, and so on.

Is it a computer that only works with Internet apps?

It sounds like you can have android apps on it, is that true?

I am just trying to get my hands around what you can actually have
installed

on the computer itself that you can work with off line! Is there a
version

of a music editor, for example you could install on the computer that
works

with the Chrome OS?

Thanks a lot.

David Moore

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From: Dido Manolov

Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:58 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] chromebook

Hi,

Chromebook is a laptop. It is running GoogleOS, not Windows. It runs

basically everything through the internet and the cloud services. You
cannot

run any programs for Windows or Apple.

Regards:

Dilian

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On 22 Nov 2017, at 21:30, David <trailerdavid@hotmail.com> wrote:
Listers,
I am really not sure, to what extent this might be totally
off-topic. If

so, forebare with me, and contact me off-list.
I am contemplating getting a new device, which would replace my
recently

broken netbook. The device will be serving as a backup unit,
should my

main system get a flue, headache - or cause me to have such
diagnoses.

Smiles.
Today, I received an offer on something named Chromebook. I do
not > know

what it is, or what to expect from it. Is it even running
Windows? Or,

more importantly, is it by any means workable by a blind user? Can
it be

run by means of NVDA, or what kind of screen reader would it be
using?

Well, is it even a computer, or are we talking more like a mobile
device?

If any of you have some hands-on experience, or more technical
information of some sort - I would be greatly appreciating you >
dropping

me a note on the matter. I want to know what to order, before I
place

any order for the next computerized device. So please educate me.
Thanks alot,


.


Finding the "Add to Cart" Button on Amazon

Rich De Steno <ironrock@...>
 

Is there any way to find the "Add to Cart" button with NVDA on the regular, not the accessible, Amazon web site?  If so, how does one do this?

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Rich De Steno


email reads as pain, no text shown in body #msftaccessibility

larry k <sir-laurence@...>
 

using windows live mail  any ideas? as to how to show text all the time?


Re: [Nvda-devel] NVDA 2017.4rc2 now available for testing

Brice Mijares
 

Before shutting my system down last night I manually installed the latest version of NVDA. This morning I booted my system and heard the E-speak welcome message at the login screen and nothing after that. I have NVDA set to start after boot up but it didn't work. I went into settings and it wasn't checked to start after boot up. Is this normal for your settings to change? Thanks.