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Re: installing the new beta of NVDA

 

do an alt tab and you may have a hidden uac window.

They don't usually hide but if you have a lot open, I try not to do this when I update it will do what it does.

On 25/11/2017 3:51 a.m., Casey wrote:
Hi I am currently the new beta of NVDA and right now it is just sitting hear telling me please wait please wait.

It does say updating my copy of NVDA so how to I get it to install and not just sit hear and tell me please wait again and again?

Or does this installation take a while?

Or should I cancel it and start it over again?



Re: Skype and NVDA

 

No but to be honest I wouldn't try to focus on making the current skype7 release more accessible the skype 8 release ms is trying to push out which has not hit out at us desktop users is a pile of buttons, menus, and clickable fields.

Skype 7 while it has its issues is accessible enough.

And to be honest maybe we should be focusing our accessibility energies on the universal app since thats what ms is trying to make skype into.

On 24/11/2017 10:03 p.m., Angela Delicata wrote:
Hi friends,

Is there an  add-on to use with skype to make it more accessible?

I have problems using it, but this happened also with the other screen reader: I cannot understand if it is me or the Software which is a bit tricky.

Thank you for any possible reply
Best.
Angela from Italy


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Very frustrating error in Outlook 2016

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Colleagues,

 

We are all very committed to NVDA and believe totally in the Trojan work that the development team are doing to provide this wonderful screen reader. I often find it to perform better than the commercial product JAWS and that is saying a great deal because JAWS is also an excellent product even though it costs the earth to have it!

 

If nobody can help with this problem, I am afraid that I am going to have to use JAWS rather than NVDA to cope with it. Do you really want that to happen?

 

I raised this on GitHub last year. I was met then with stunning silence! I would like to run over it with you, if you dont mind?

 

It normally comes and goes and is not always reproduceable. However, since I moved to Office 365 online, it has become a permanent feature of the Sent Items folder in Outlook 2016. I am running Windows 10 and NVDA 2017.3.

 

I have copied the log file and attach it here for your reference.

 

Heres the story:

I prefer to display messages in the various folders as a simple list and Outlook defaults to showing them in groups. So, I have learnt to turn off show in groups whenever I come across it. Since Office 365 online, I find that when I go to the Sent Items folder with groups turned off, I can see only the message that is under the cursor. I would expect to hear the next message in the list after pressing down-arrow as in the Inbox and most other folders. However, here there is silence, even though I press down or up-arrow many times. If I keep pressing down arrow until message 50 (more or less, it varies!) suddenly, I can hear all the messages listed. If I up-arrow back up the list, I cross a threshold at the same message where the voicing began and all is silent again. Down-arrow back down the list and I break back into voicing the messages at the same threshold of message 51. If I press end I will drop down to the last message in the Sent Items windows (about number 250, for example). I hear it fine. And repeating up-arrow voices all the prior messages as I reverse up the list until number 50 again when all goes silent.

 

In the attached log. I positioned on the Sent Items folder with Show in groups unchecked. I then restarted NVDA to freshen the log. In the log, I have typed in a message bound by three asterisks (***) to make it easier to find where the error report starts.

Back to my story:

Then, with the refreshed NVDA, I pressed alt+v>a>b for the Arrange By View menu. I then press up-arrow twice to  Show in Groups which was unchecked so I press space bar to check it.

 

Now, when I press up-arrow or down-arrow, I hear the group title and then each of the messages that were not being voiced before.

 

To test this I went back into the arrange By menu and turn off Show in groups and, again, the messages in the top 50 are not being voiced.

 

You will see the following error line if you look at my attached log:

accRole failed: (-2147417848, 'The object invoked has disconnected from its clients.', (None,

 

I carried out some further tests and found that, in fact, the list is only showing the last 200 messages in the list. When I have 250 messages, the first 50 messages are silent under NVDA, until I reach the 51st message. As I frequently have about 420 messages in my sent Items before archiving, I usually find that the 220th message is silent and then suddenly the 221st message is spoken!

 

 

To relieve my frustration, I loaded JAWS 2016 which does not have any problem reading each message from top to bottom in the Sent Items list. Should I have to admit to all my NVDA critics that NVDA cannot do it and they had better use JAWS?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 


Re: nvda 2017.4rc1 and thunderbird version 52.4.0 (32-bit)

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi all, as already reported this is fixed but thanks for all your help.

On 24/11/2017 22:34, Travis Siegel wrote:
When I open an email with an attachment, I simply use the nvda cursor (nvda-right arrow something like 3 times, and it lands me on the attachment itself.  Then I use nvda-numpad enter to select it, then it pops up a dialog box asking where to save it.  That's all there is to it.  No need to go digging through menus if you don't want to, but if you aren't comfortable with the nvda cursors, then that approach works too.
On 11/20/2017 6:37 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
I use the message menu, attachments sub-menu to save/open attachments easily enough, working with thunderbird 52.4  on my windows 10 64 bit fall creators machine, and working with either NVDA 2017.3, or latest RC of 2017.4?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2017/11/20 23:56, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
anyone having problems with tb 5240 and attachments I can't get to the save button only using Narrator could I do this.

On 19/11/2017 23:58, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Hi, Shaun! there is a beta version you may try it. the response for the nvda 2017.4 RC1 works fine and seemingly fast.

On 11/20/2017 3:48 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
What I want to know is when thunderbird will actually get a release, there hasn't been one since 52 and while I don't mind as such as I use no addons at all, I would really like to see some improvements eventually.

win7 works but still I don't always watch it.




On 20/11/2017 7:47 a.m., Lino Morales wrote:
Try T Bird 57 beta. Its fast.

On 11/18/2017 5:00 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

also in windows10 home 64bit latest updated windows10 the very latest without being on the insider build. NVDA is sluggish when composing emails in thunderbird. Its very sluggish. When I hit backspace or any of the arrow keys when composing or writing emails NVDA takes one whole entire second to give me speech feedback on where the cursor is at. But on the web in google chrome and firefox and in microsoft wordpad, notepad and so on NVDA is fast and snappy when arrowing around. Has anyone noticed this and can this cursor lag with NVDA please be fixed?


Josh


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Re: can't upgrade to the nvda 2017.4 rc

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, thanks for the link I will keep it if I need to help anyone else thanks again.

On 24/11/2017 22:24, ely.r@comcast.net wrote:
Just did a quick web search about removing Webroot's SecureAnywhere from your computer. Not sure if that is what you have blocking your install. The article does refers to removal programs from the company and what seems like a pretty clear step-by step process. It is at:
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/uninstall-webroot-completely-pc-50656.html
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 4:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't upgrade to the nvda 2017.4 rc
I seem to remember I had a job I used something to do it but it was some
years ago. and dew to my health I don't go to peoples homes any more
and fix computers.
On 24/11/2017 00:38, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I don't know why Best Buys even installed the program in the first
place. I tried programs and features but it didn't work. I also tried
to see if I could uninstall it from the system tray but that didn't
work either. It's gonna be hard to get rid of it.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 2:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't upgrade to the nvda 2017.4 rc

I used to work helping other blind computer users get started. this
program is a pest and you need to get rid of it I have had 2 systems
with it on it and it caused no end of problems with nvda. I can't
remember how hard it is to get rid of but try programs and features first.

On 23/11/2017 15:10, Gene wrote:
It's web root.
Gene
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*Subject:* Re: [nvda] can't upgrade to the nvda 2017.4 rc

Hmm when I look up web rooter it gives me Canadian plumbers!
Brian

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From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com
<mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:27 AM
Subject: [nvda] can't upgrade to the nvda 2017.4 rc


> Hi, everyone,
>
>
>
> I'm using narrator to write this message. I tried to update to
nvda
2017.4
> RC but when I tried to update to that version, something blocked
it from > coming up. I called the microsoft disability line and they
couldn't get it > to come up either. When Best Buys repaired my
computer, they put on this > thing called web rooter or something
like that. I don't know what to do.
> They also installed C cleaner which I really didn't need. How do
I allow > web > rooter to unblock nvda so I can upgrade?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help in advance.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
>
>
>









Re: nvda 2017.4rc1 and thunderbird version 52.4.0 (32-bit)

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

When I open an email with an attachment, I simply use the nvda cursor (nvda-right arrow something like 3 times, and it lands me on the attachment itself.  Then I use nvda-numpad enter to select it, then it pops up a dialog box asking where to save it.  That's all there is to it.  No need to go digging through menus if you don't want to, but if you aren't comfortable with the nvda cursors, then that approach works too.

On 11/20/2017 6:37 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
I use the message menu, attachments sub-menu to save/open attachments easily enough, working with thunderbird 52.4  on my windows 10 64 bit fall creators machine, and working with either NVDA 2017.3, or latest RC of 2017.4?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2017/11/20 23:56, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
anyone having problems with tb 5240 and attachments I can't get to the save button only using Narrator could I do this.

On 19/11/2017 23:58, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Hi, Shaun! there is a beta version you may try it. the response for the nvda 2017.4 RC1 works fine and seemingly fast.

On 11/20/2017 3:48 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
What I want to know is when thunderbird will actually get a release, there hasn't been one since 52 and while I don't mind as such as I use no addons at all, I would really like to see some improvements eventually.

win7 works but still I don't always watch it.




On 20/11/2017 7:47 a.m., Lino Morales wrote:
Try T Bird 57 beta. Its fast.

On 11/18/2017 5:00 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

also in windows10 home 64bit latest updated windows10 the very latest without being on the insider build. NVDA is sluggish when composing emails in thunderbird. Its very sluggish. When I hit backspace or any of the arrow keys when composing or writing emails NVDA takes one whole entire second to give me speech feedback on where the cursor is at. But on the web in google chrome and firefox and in microsoft wordpad, notepad and so on NVDA is fast and snappy when arrowing around. Has anyone noticed this and can this cursor lag with NVDA please be fixed?


Josh


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Re: NVDA will simply not run

Chris
 

Did you try deleting the nvda profile folder in appdata?

 

 

From: ely.r@...
Sent: 24 November 2017 21:57
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA will simply not run

 

Until recently, NVDA was running fine on my Windows 10 desktop. I do not run it at startup but from a desktop shortcut, so the run at startup issue is not the problem. I can run JAWS 18 and Narrator without any issue.

I have uninstalled and reinstalled the program, and though I would get the “installed successfully” message, it would not run by clicking on the “run now” button on the install program nor from the desktop. I even went to the actual app in the X86 program group, and no luck there.

I just downloaded version 2017. 4 RC 2 and did an install of it after uninstalling the previous version. Again, I received the installed successfully message but again no luck. NVDA does not appear in the running programs group.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Rick

 


Re: can't upgrade to the nvda 2017.4 rc

ely.r@...
 

Just did a quick web search about removing Webroot's SecureAnywhere from your computer. Not sure if that is what you have blocking your install. The article does refers to removal programs from the company and what seems like a pretty clear step-by step process. It is at:
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/uninstall-webroot-completely-pc-50656.html

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 4:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't upgrade to the nvda 2017.4 rc

I seem to remember I had a job I used something to do it but it was some
years ago. and dew to my health I don't go to peoples homes any more
and fix computers.

On 24/11/2017 00:38, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I don't know why Best Buys even installed the program in the first
place. I tried programs and features but it didn't work. I also tried
to see if I could uninstall it from the system tray but that didn't
work either. It's gonna be hard to get rid of it.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 2:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't upgrade to the nvda 2017.4 rc

I used to work helping other blind computer users get started. this
program is a pest and you need to get rid of it I have had 2 systems
with it on it and it caused no end of problems with nvda. I can't
remember how hard it is to get rid of but try programs and features first.

On 23/11/2017 15:10, Gene wrote:
It's web root.
Gene
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*Subject:* Re: [nvda] can't upgrade to the nvda 2017.4 rc

Hmm when I look up web rooter it gives me Canadian plumbers!
Brian

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<mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:27 AM
Subject: [nvda] can't upgrade to the nvda 2017.4 rc


> Hi, everyone,
>
>
>
> I'm using narrator to write this message. I tried to update to
nvda
2017.4
> RC but when I tried to update to that version, something blocked
it from > coming up. I called the microsoft disability line and they
couldn't get it > to come up either. When Best Buys repaired my
computer, they put on this > thing called web rooter or something
like that. I don't know what to do.
> They also installed C cleaner which I really didn't need. How do
I allow > web > rooter to unblock nvda so I can upgrade?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help in advance.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
>
>
>









NVDA will simply not run

ely.r@...
 

Until recently, NVDA was running fine on my Windows 10 desktop. I do not run it at startup but from a desktop shortcut, so the run at startup issue is not the problem. I can run JAWS 18 and Narrator without any issue.

I have uninstalled and reinstalled the program, and though I would get the “installed successfully” message, it would not run by clicking on the “run now” button on the install program nor from the desktop. I even went to the actual app in the X86 program group, and no luck there.

I just downloaded version 2017. 4 RC 2 and did an install of it after uninstalling the previous version. Again, I received the installed successfully message but again no luck. NVDA does not appear in the running programs group.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Rick


Re: nvda start at start up sometimes turning off in win 10?

Kevin Cussick
 

I think this was at the log on screen. anyway tested on my machine with the latest stable version of windows 10 and the system is 64 bit and it worked it did not change anything.

On 24/11/2017 09:46, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
I have just been reading on the user list that a couple of people say that the new rc somehow turns off the start at start up checkbox when updating a system.
I cannot test this as it seems to be only on windows 10. I'm thinking it might possibly be that new function mentioned where the system cannot write to certain folders if a windows setting is left on to protect parts of windows. I've no idea how this could occur as to me the result should be the opposite!
Brian
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Re: nvda 2017.4rc1 and thunderbird version 52.4.0 (32-bit)

Kevin Cussick
 

yes he is asking about the portable version not the installed version.

On 24/11/2017 08:38, Angela Delicata wrote:
Hi,
I am using thunderbird with NVDA and  works very well.
Il 23/11/2017 22:50, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io ha scritto:
I have used it years ago,   but not for years so I do not know but don't see why it wouldn't work.

On 22/11/2017 10:35, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
What are your experiences with the portable version of Tbird?
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2017.4rc1 and thunderbird version 52.4.0 (32-bit)


Hi,   did the same but it did not read the save bit.   anyway fixed as did a reinstall and all is well now thanks.

On 20/11/2017 23:37, Jacob Kruger wrote:
I use the message menu, attachments sub-menu to save/open attachments easily enough, working with thunderbird 52.4 on my windows 10 64 bit fall creators machine, and working with either NVDA 2017.3, or latest RC of 2017.4?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2017/11/20 23:56, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
anyone having problems with tb 5240 and attachments I can't get to the save button only using Narrator could I do this.

On 19/11/2017 23:58, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Hi, Shaun! there is a beta version you may try it. the response for the nvda 2017.4 RC1 works fine and seemingly fast.

On 11/20/2017 3:48 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
What I want to know is when thunderbird will actually get a release, there hasn't been one since 52 and while I don't mind as such as I use no addons at all, I would really like to see some improvements eventually.

win7 works but still I don't always watch it.




On 20/11/2017 7:47 a.m., Lino Morales wrote:
Try T Bird 57 beta. Its fast.

On 11/18/2017 5:00 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

also in windows10 home 64bit latest updated windows10 the very latest without being on the insider build. NVDA is sluggish when composing emails in thunderbird. Its very sluggish. When I hit backspace or any of the arrow keys when composing or writing emails NVDA takes one whole entire second to give me speech feedback on where the cursor is at. But on the web in google chrome and firefox and in microsoft wordpad, notepad and so on NVDA is fast and snappy when arrowing around. Has anyone noticed this and can this cursor lag with NVDA please be fixed?


Josh


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Re: can't upgrade to the nvda 2017.4 rc

Kevin Cussick
 

I seem to remember I had a job I used something to do it but it was some years ago. and dew to my health I don't go to peoples homes any more and fix computers.

On 24/11/2017 00:38, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I don't know why Best Buys even installed the program in the first place. I
tried programs and features but it didn't work. I also tried to see if I
could uninstall it from the system tray but that didn't work either. It's
gonna be hard to get rid of it.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 2:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't upgrade to the nvda 2017.4 rc
I used to work helping other blind computer users get started. this
program is a pest and you need to get rid of it I have had 2 systems
with it on it and it caused no end of problems with nvda. I can't
remember how hard it is to get rid of but try programs and features first.
On 23/11/2017 15:10, Gene wrote:
It's web root.
Gene
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*Subject:* Re: [nvda] can't upgrade to the nvda 2017.4 rc

Hmm when I look up web rooter it gives me Canadian plumbers!
 Brian

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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:27 AM
Subject: [nvda] can't upgrade to the nvda 2017.4 rc


> Hi, everyone,
>
>
>
> I'm using narrator to write this message. I tried to update to nvda
2017.4
> RC but when I tried to update to that version, something blocked it
from > coming up. I called the microsoft disability line and they
couldn't get it > to come up either. When Best Buys repaired my
computer, they put on this > thing called web rooter or something
like that. I don't know what to do.
> They also installed C cleaner which I really didn't need. How do I
allow > web > rooter to unblock nvda so I can upgrade?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help in advance.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: installing the new beta of NVDA

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Maybe the uac screen has come up it should say that it has if in focus.


If it or when it comes up use the alt keythe letter y.


NVDA usually installs pretty quick.


Gene nz



On 11/25/2017 3:51 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi I am currently the new beta of NVDA and right now it is just sitting hear telling me please wait please wait.

It does say updating my copy of NVDA so how to I get it to install and not just sit hear and tell me please wait again and again?

Or does this installation take a while?

Or should I cancel it and start it over again?




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Re: Running nvda with command line switches?

 

Hi,
Not that I know of at the moment.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Norman
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 10:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Running nvda with command line switches?

Hi.

Thanks. this is what i was looking for. Anyone know, does nvdaremote have any command line switches?



On 11/24/2017 12:21 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Yes, and you can specify options. The usual way is through Run dialog (this dialog's receiving some needed tweaks next year), but you can launch NVDA via PowerShell, Command Prompt, and if adventurous (and if you know the exact executable name for the variant you need to use), Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL).

The command line options (in a typical Unix-style help message/man page):

NVDA: NonVisual Desktop Access, free and open-source screen reader for Microsoft Windows

Usage:
nvda {-m | -r } [-f filename] [-l loglevel] [--disable-addons | --debug-logging]
... and additional switches (one add-on participates in providing extra switches)

Or:
Fullpathtonvda (e.g. C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\nvda.exe)

Options:

-m - minimal (no startup sound)
-r - restart NVDA
-f filename - file name for the log file
-l loglevel - logging level
--disable-addons - disables all add-ons
--debug-logging - turns debug logging on for the session

I might be forgetting important ones or may have messed up some. As for add-ons that participate in providing additional command-line switches, StationPlaylist Studio add-on adds several switches related to add-on configuration.
Cheers,
Joseph


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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Norman
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 5:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Running nvda with command line switches?

Hello.

Is it possible to run nvda from the command line with different options?

For example, what i'm thinking is to have a script that launches nvda and automatically brings up nvda remote.


Anyone have any thoughts for me?








Re: Skype and NVDA

John Isige
 

You can still get skype 7.X. If you go to skype.com and then pick
download, right above where it says "get skype" or whatever, in other
words the actual download link, there's a thing that just says
"clickable" on some browsers, in the latest Firefox for me it's just a
blank line. Hit enter on that and a menu will drop down and you get five
options, and one of them is called "get classic skype".


Not that I'm trying to get people not to use the new skype, but I didn't
find it all that exciting myself. I could get to most things with tab,
but there seems to be no documentation for one thing. As an example I
searched for accessibility for skype and got the documentation about the
accessibility option you can check, but I don't even see a way to get
into settings in Skype 8. So I'm pretty sure the available documentation
is still for Skype 7.

On 11/24/2017 11:15, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
We also have a skype english list if anyone wants to join it there
and discuss skype and all of it's not so glory right now. Lol!

Go to skypeenglish.tffppodcast.com
<http://skypeenglish.tffppodcast.com> for more info and to get the
email address to send to to subscribe. Let's hope that skype does get
fixed as the version that is due out for my os is not pretty, and no
scripts either.

On Nov 24, 2017, at 3:31 AM, Angela Delicata
<angeladelicata@gmail.com <mailto:angeladelicata@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thank you, very kind of you to address my query.

Best.

Angela from Italy



Il 24/11/2017 12:12, Joseph Lee ha scritto:
Hi,
Once I get hold of the new Skype build, I'll test it under various
conditions to see if something can be done about that. If it is what
I think it is, then all the work has been done for you - it's a
matter of publishing a standard app module version of Skype UWP app
module (which can be done).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angela Delicata
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 2:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Skype and NVDA

Hi,

I have windows 7 32 bits and skype 8.11.0.4. Perhaps It is
accessible, but maybe it is me who does not find it very nice to
work with.

Thank you.

Angela from Italy


Il 24/11/2017 11:38, Joseph Lee ha scritto:
Hi,
Which Windows version do you have? Did you perhaps install the
Skype version with the newer interface on top? If so, that's
something I myself will need to investigate (and perhaps separate
my Skype UWP module from WinTenApps add-on into its own add-on
sooner than later).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Angela Delicata
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Skype and NVDA

Hi,

I installed a newer version and seems to work, but anyway I do not
like the layout of skype so much: it seems a bit confusing.

I prefer the older versions: those we had when using Vista or xp..

Thank you for your kind answer!


Il 24/11/2017 10:15, abdul muhamin ha scritto:
Hi, go to options and enable accessible mode, I’m using skype with
NVDA without any addon and its working perfectly

regards, Abdulmuhamin Yousaf!
head of the content department at
www.blindHelp.net <http://www.blindHelp.net>

From: Angela Delicata
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 2:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Skype and NVDA

Hi friends,

Is there an add-on to use with skype to make it more accessible?

I have problems using it, but this happened also with the other
screen
reader: I cannot understand if it is me or the Software which is a
bit tricky.

Thank you for any possible reply
Best.
Angela from Italy






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Re: Running nvda with command line switches?

Norman <lists@...>
 

Hi.

Thanks. this is what i was looking for. Anyone know, does nvdaremote have any command line switches?

On 11/24/2017 12:21 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Yes, and you can specify options. The usual way is through Run dialog (this dialog's receiving some needed tweaks next year), but you can launch NVDA via PowerShell, Command Prompt, and if adventurous (and if you know the exact executable name for the variant you need to use), Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL).

The command line options (in a typical Unix-style help message/man page):

NVDA: NonVisual Desktop Access, free and open-source screen reader for Microsoft Windows

Usage:
nvda {-m | -r } [-f filename] [-l loglevel] [--disable-addons | --debug-logging]
... and additional switches (one add-on participates in providing extra switches)

Or:
Fullpathtonvda (e.g. C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\nvda.exe)

Options:

-m - minimal (no startup sound)
-r - restart NVDA
-f filename - file name for the log file
-l loglevel - logging level
--disable-addons - disables all add-ons
--debug-logging - turns debug logging on for the session

I might be forgetting important ones or may have messed up some. As for add-ons that participate in providing additional command-line switches, StationPlaylist Studio add-on adds several switches related to add-on configuration.
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Norman
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 5:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Running nvda with command line switches?

Hello.

Is it possible to run nvda from the command line with different options?

For example, what i'm thinking is to have a script that launches nvda and automatically brings up nvda remote.


Anyone have any thoughts for me?







Re: Running nvda with command line switches?

 

Hi,
Yes, and you can specify options. The usual way is through Run dialog (this dialog's receiving some needed tweaks next year), but you can launch NVDA via PowerShell, Command Prompt, and if adventurous (and if you know the exact executable name for the variant you need to use), Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL).

The command line options (in a typical Unix-style help message/man page):

NVDA: NonVisual Desktop Access, free and open-source screen reader for Microsoft Windows

Usage:
nvda {-m | -r } [-f filename] [-l loglevel] [--disable-addons | --debug-logging]
... and additional switches (one add-on participates in providing extra switches)

Or:
Fullpathtonvda (e.g. C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\nvda.exe)

Options:

-m - minimal (no startup sound)
-r - restart NVDA
-f filename - file name for the log file
-l loglevel - logging level
--disable-addons - disables all add-ons
--debug-logging - turns debug logging on for the session

I might be forgetting important ones or may have messed up some. As for add-ons that participate in providing additional command-line switches, StationPlaylist Studio add-on adds several switches related to add-on configuration.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Norman
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 5:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Running nvda with command line switches?

Hello.

Is it possible to run nvda from the command line with different options?

For example, what i'm thinking is to have a script that launches nvda and automatically brings up nvda remote.


Anyone have any thoughts for me?


Re: Graphics Stickers

Sarah k Alawami
 

Actually the read fine on my phoe they are 100 percent accessible over here so I send them thinking it is accessible o all devices.

On Nov 24, 2017, at 1:41 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Badges and stickers need to have alt tags otherwise the best you can get is some nonsensical name or number. It should be obvious to anyone who knows you are blind that sending you graphics is a little ridiculous I'd have thought, but having said that I still get this sort of thing from other places, not being on twitface myself.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Mendoza" <lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:12 AM
Subject: [nvda] Graphics Stickers


Is there an addons or way to read the graphics stickers in facebook. Silly question to ask cause some of my friend send me like this type which is not readable by nvda though, I believe there is Emoticon but this only handles only for standard Smiley and Emoticon.




Re: Skype and NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

We also have a skype english list if anyone wants  to join it there and discuss skype and all of it's not so glory right now. Lol!

Go to skypeenglish.tffppodcast.com for more info and to get the email address to send to to subscribe. Let's hope that skype does get fixed as the version that is due out for my os is not pretty, and no scripts either.

On Nov 24, 2017, at 3:31 AM, Angela Delicata <angeladelicata@...> wrote:

Thank you, very kind of you to address my query.

Best.

Angela from Italy



Il 24/11/2017 12:12, Joseph Lee ha scritto:
Hi,
Once I get hold of the new Skype build, I'll test it under various conditions to see if something can be done about that. If it is what I think it is, then all the work has been done for you - it's a matter of publishing a standard app module version of Skype UWP app module (which can be done).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angela Delicata
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 2:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Skype and NVDA

Hi,

I have windows 7 32 bits and skype 8.11.0.4. Perhaps It is accessible, but maybe it is me who does not find it very nice to work with.

Thank you.

Angela from Italy


Il 24/11/2017 11:38, Joseph Lee ha scritto:
Hi,
Which Windows version do you have? Did you perhaps install the Skype version with the newer interface on top? If so, that's something I myself will need to investigate (and perhaps separate my Skype UWP module from WinTenApps add-on into its own add-on sooner than later).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Angela Delicata
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Skype and NVDA

Hi,

I installed a newer version and seems to work, but anyway I do not like the layout of skype so much: it seems a bit confusing.

I prefer the older versions: those we had when using Vista or xp..

Thank you for your kind answer!


Il 24/11/2017 10:15, abdul muhamin ha scritto:
Hi, go to options and enable accessible mode, I’m using skype with
NVDA without any addon and its working perfectly

regards, Abdulmuhamin Yousaf!
head of the content department at
www.blindHelp.net

From: Angela Delicata
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 2:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Skype and NVDA

Hi friends,

Is there an  add-on to use with skype to make it more accessible?

I have problems using it, but this happened also with the other
screen
reader: I cannot understand if it is me or the Software which is a
bit tricky.

Thank you for any possible reply
Best.
Angela from Italy






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Re: Running nvda with command line switches?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I'd suggest this is one for either the add ons list or a github issue wish list.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Norman" <lists@thekingstech.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:14 PM
Subject: [nvda] Running nvda with command line switches?


Hello.

Is it possible to run nvda from the command line with different options?

For example, what i'm thinking is to have a script that launches nvda and automatically brings up nvda remote.


Anyone have any thoughts for me?