On 3/5/2016 6:08 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io wrote:

just one thing to take note of, revo only works on 32 bit programs so if you have any 64 bit programs it won't even know there there I took it off all my machines because of this.

On 05/03/2016 13:10, Greg Wocher wrote:

Hello,
If you are having trouble uninstalling as well there is a free program
you can try called revo uninstaller. It works well and it is how I
uninstall most of my programs. It can be found at:
http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html

Make sure you get the freware version. The professional version does not
work very well with screen readers yet the free version works quite
well. This program will help get rid of the program giving you an issue.
I too just installed SeaMonkey from scratch with out an issue. I have
not used it in a while and may give it another try.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 3/4/2016 8:25 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:

Hi Vincent,
Sorry, we also have the latest version of JAWS, but it won't read
anything with that either. Very perplexed by all of this and
disappointed in myself. Thanks for all your help. Can't even remove
the program and put it back on as it reads the same as the install
did. Can't restore the computer to an earlier time before the problems
started. Looks like I'm just stuck.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 9:30 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:

Lisa,

Sorry, I wasn't quite accurate in my last mail,, but you found the menu
items anyway. In Seamonkey, go to View Menu, then Show / Hide, then
press the right arrow key to start the submenu with the various toolbars
that you can show or hide. There is a further submenu for Website
Navigation, which you can again reach by pressing the right arrow key.

From the main menu bar, for example, if you are at Bookmarks, the
submenu should appear if you press the down arrow. I have no idea why
items are not being spoken by NVDA.

It may be that some settings have got corrupted , in which case it would
be an idea to remove Seamonkey and start again. If NVDA is otherwise
working OK, this may be the best option. I remove programs with Revo
Uninstaller, which looks for relevant files all over your PC, and so may
remove any corrupt material.

To get the current version of seamonkey, version 2.39, go to:
https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.39&os=win&lang=en-US

That link above should start the installer downloading. In Seamonkey or
Firefox, you will get a dialog box asking you to save the file before
you can run it.

Vince in England.

========================================
Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 01:38 PM
From: "Lisa P Geibel"
To: nvda@groups.io
Cc:
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?

Hi Vincent,
Thank you for getting back. Yes, menu is checked, but there are
about 4
or 5 other things below it that are also checked and it doesn't read
what they are. I know how to get to the view choice when things act
normally, but when I left and right arrow when I'm in the file menu,
all
I hear is submenu submenu and that's it. Does that help you any? Can
you
give me any tips on things to have checked or unchecked so it
will read
better? Please and thanks?.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 8:09 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
> Hi, Lisa,
>
> I've got Seamonkey on my PC, and I don't know what's happened
with
> yours, but it looks much the same as it ever did. I have
version
2.39,
> which I believe is the latest.
>
> I wonder if you have menus turned off. Hold down the Alt key
until you
> can find out what's there. If you can get to the View menu,
choose
> Toolbars and make sure that menus are on.
>
> A shortcut to save a favorite or bookmark is Control key
plus D.
>
> If you have Firefox and Thunderbird, you have most of
Seamonkey in
> another form, really.
>
> Hope that's some help.
>
> Vince in England.
>
>
>
>
>
> ========================================
> Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 11:41 AM
> From: "Lisa P Geibel"
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Cc:
> Subject: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?
>
> Hi,
> My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10
computer
> with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to
use
> Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it.
I got
> 2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no
shortcut
> keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL
work.
> It's only reading things like button and such. The install
was a
> nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button
and alt
> button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I
was the
> one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
> --
> Lisa
> E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
> Philmore box shared with hubby:
> 773-572-7897
> God bless everyone!!!
>
>
>
>
>

On 05/03/2016 13:10, Greg Wocher wrote:

Hello,
If you are having trouble uninstalling as well there is a free program
you can try called revo uninstaller. It works well and it is how I
uninstall most of my programs. It can be found at:
http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html

Make sure you get the freware version. The professional version does not
work very well with screen readers yet the free version works quite
well. This program will help get rid of the program giving you an issue.
I too just installed SeaMonkey from scratch with out an issue. I have
not used it in a while and may give it another try.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 3/4/2016 8:25 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:

Hi Vincent,
Sorry, we also have the latest version of JAWS, but it won't read
anything with that either. Very perplexed by all of this and
disappointed in myself. Thanks for all your help. Can't even remove
the program and put it back on as it reads the same as the install
did. Can't restore the computer to an earlier time before the problems
started. Looks like I'm just stuck.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 9:30 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:

Lisa,

Sorry, I wasn't quite accurate in my last mail,, but you found the menu
items anyway. In Seamonkey, go to View Menu, then Show / Hide, then
press the right arrow key to start the submenu with the various toolbars
that you can show or hide. There is a further submenu for Website
Navigation, which you can again reach by pressing the right arrow key.

From the main menu bar, for example, if you are at Bookmarks, the
submenu should appear if you press the down arrow. I have no idea why
items are not being spoken by NVDA.

It may be that some settings have got corrupted , in which case it would
be an idea to remove Seamonkey and start again. If NVDA is otherwise
working OK, this may be the best option. I remove programs with Revo
Uninstaller, which looks for relevant files all over your PC, and so may
remove any corrupt material.

To get the current version of seamonkey, version 2.39, go to:
https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.39&os=win&lang=en-US

That link above should start the installer downloading. In Seamonkey or
Firefox, you will get a dialog box asking you to save the file before
you can run it.

Vince in England.

========================================
Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 01:38 PM
From: "Lisa P Geibel"
To: nvda@groups.io
Cc:
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?

Hi Vincent,
Thank you for getting back. Yes, menu is checked, but there are
about 4
or 5 other things below it that are also checked and it doesn't read
what they are. I know how to get to the view choice when things act
normally, but when I left and right arrow when I'm in the file menu,
all
I hear is submenu submenu and that's it. Does that help you any? Can
you
give me any tips on things to have checked or unchecked so it
will read
better? Please and thanks?.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 8:09 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
> Hi, Lisa,
>
> I've got Seamonkey on my PC, and I don't know what's happened
with
> yours, but it looks much the same as it ever did. I have version
2.39,
> which I believe is the latest.
>
> I wonder if you have menus turned off. Hold down the Alt key
until you
> can find out what's there. If you can get to the View menu,
choose
> Toolbars and make sure that menus are on.
>
> A shortcut to save a favorite or bookmark is Control key plus D.
>
> If you have Firefox and Thunderbird, you have most of
Seamonkey in
> another form, really.
>
> Hope that's some help.
>
> Vince in England.
>
>
>
>
>
> ========================================
> Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 11:41 AM
> From: "Lisa P Geibel"
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Cc:
> Subject: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?
>
> Hi,
> My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10
computer
> with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to
use
> Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it.
I got
> 2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no
shortcut
> keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL
work.
> It's only reading things like button and such. The install was a
> nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button
and alt
> button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I
was the
> one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
> --
> Lisa
> E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
> Philmore box shared with hubby:
> 773-572-7897
> God bless everyone!!!
>
>
>
>
>

-----Original Message-----
From: Marten Post Uiterweer [mailto:martenpu@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 3:02 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda and the combibraille/braillewindow display

Hi Joseph,


And how can I ask them to look at this?

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 5 Mar 2016 09:26:43 -0800 "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
wrote:

Hi,
In order to "unlock" the keys on these displays, NV Access will need
to take a look at one of these displays and write a native NVDA
braille display driver for it. Certain BRLTTY keys aren't mapped to
NVDA functions, hence this issue.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Marten Post Uiterweer [mailto:martenpu@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 5:12 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Nvda and the combibraille/braillewindow display

Hi,

I am using a Combibraille brailledisplay with Nvda. This display is
also called a Braillewindow.
It is an verry old display and can only be connected by using a serial
connection, so I use a usb to serial converter and Brltty to get this
display working.
The problem in Nvda is, dat the keys on the display are not working.
When I use Brltty in debug mode, I can see, that the keys are working
for Brltty, but Nvda will not recognize these.
is there a trick so I can also use the keys on this display? That
would be verry nice.


Kind regards, Marten

On Sat, 5 Mar 2016 09:26:43 -0800 "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,
In order to "unlock" the keys on these displays, NV Access will need to take
a look at one of these displays and write a native NVDA braille display
driver for it. Certain BRLTTY keys aren't mapped to NVDA functions, hence
this issue.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Marten Post Uiterweer [mailto:martenpu@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 5:12 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Nvda and the combibraille/braillewindow display

Hi,

I am using a Combibraille brailledisplay with Nvda. This display is also
called a Braillewindow.
It is an verry old display and can only be connected by using a serial
connection, so I use a usb to serial converter and Brltty to get this
display working.
The problem in Nvda is, dat the keys on the display are not working. When I
use Brltty in debug mode, I can see, that the keys are working for Brltty,
but Nvda will not recognize these.
is there a trick so I can also use the keys on this display? That would be
verry nice.


Kind regards, Marten

From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:26 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Emdash displaying weirdly on Focus 40 Blue Braille display with NVDA

 

On 3/4/2016 11:27 PM, Aravind R wrote:

using calc is difficult using any screen reader.
in our bank, head office has ms excel but branches send files prepared
by open office calc which we are unable to view.
kindly explain how to view the information and make changes

On 3/5/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, Christo,

I find that open office works a little better than libre office. The
read-to-end function doesn't work in that either but I can deal with that.

Rosemarie



On 3/4/2016 11:04 PM, Christo de Klerk wrote:

Well, it works well upto a point, I would say. Quite a major drawback
is that you don't get formatting information with NVDA when you press
NVDA+f. I hope this is something that can be addressed soon. Another
drawback is that the read to end function does not work; it only reads
a paragraph at a time. Another small irritation is that, when you use
auto-numbering and arrow up and down your text, the number of each
numbered element is read twice.

So, while it is generally accessible, there certainly are usage issues
with it. I really wish the NVDA developers would pay more attention to
accessibility of LibreOffice, as it is also a free package and much
less clunky to use than the MS counterpart.

Kind regards

Christo




On 2016/03/04 8:56 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

Yes it is And it works well.
Kenny Peyatt jr.

-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Kennedy [mailto:joshknnd1982@...]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 12:30 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda and libreoffice

hi
is libreoffice or openoffice or both now accessible with NVDA without
the java access bridge? if so which one and which version?

On 3/5/2016 2:20 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

Personally the main issue at present is that when doing a lot of editing the length of the file is not kept, and one has to switch away and back to get it to read the numbers. I suspect this has to do with the way Goldwave presents this, ie it has to be the last thing written perhaps.
Brian

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To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Suggesting several features for GoldWave AddON

Actually, I have been using gold wave like that for years! It may even be a gold wave keystroke, not a screenreader one.

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On 3/4/2016 1:10 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:

Joseph and whoever does the GoldWave AddOn for NVDA
I'd like to suggest having the ability to via Alt+numbers from 1-9, be able to move between files during editing, instead of having to do Control+tab? kind of like what the other screen readers' scripts do. Thanks for implementing.

-----Original Message-----
From: William Brandes [mailto:williambrandes@...]
Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 02:28
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Re: subject= how to get nvda to read continuously

hi. with my winbook 7" tablet i have the nvda key mapped as caps key.
but, down arrow works

second note. i use gmail. when hitting reply groups io i get the question-mark plus subject thingie in the to text box along with nvda@groups.io. this is an html send to email feature, but, note not everyone is using outlook, thunderbird or the like. i'm going to keep it in the to text and see if it corrupts the send to or not.

note: in this second email i took it out. we'll find out.

stay well ... william

On 3/5/2016 2:51 PM, marvin kotler wrote:

Good afternoon list; Marv here.  I have a question regarding the portable copy.  First, running windows 10.  Once the nvda portable is up and running, I have no button or menus like the installed copy.  What am I supposed to do? Any help would be appreciated; thanks in advance.

 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 8:06 PM
Subject: [nvda] Social media

Oh boy! That's addicted! I am on facebook and thank Goodness I share the I
Phone with my room mate. I love it but I wouldn't want it on the phone! Wow!
That is really addicted if you ask me!

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account [mailto:bglists@...]
Sent: March-05-16 5:29 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am afraid he will have a tummy ache

I have never been able to work out how to use Twitter or Facebook and have
not bothered with the others either. I sat next to a lady in a cafe the
other day and she had her phone on her lap as she was eating and kept on
gigling and tapping stuff in while eating. Talk about in a bubble.
I somehow think its not for me.

However I think this thread is a little dodgy, but good as a test I guess.
Just try and get those -=-=-=-= removed before we go mental. I guess I
could move = to a different punnctuation level...
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am afraid he will have a tummy ache

Hi,
Jamie Teh said something on Twitter that basically says that statement. I
may eventually need to talk about social media and NVDA later during that
event... Right now though, I'm in the midst of a semester at a community
college, seeing the news coming from NVDACon speaker recruitment efforts,
finalizing StationPlaylist add-on 7.0 beta, thinking about writing a
letter
to mainstream programmers about value of NVDA and others (along with
making
sure my latest code for add-ons manager gets integrated into NVDA Core).
Cheers,
Joseph
P.S. Yes, I do code (NVDA screen reader), and latest endeavor can be found
at http://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3090.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Shook [mailto:chris0309@...]
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 11:02 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am afraid he will have a tummy ache

Joseph,
It may be too late, but would there be any way to make a statement to the
effect that NVDA does not agree with comments said on Social Media?
Just a suggestion.
Chris