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Re: Please help a Chess program developer

Jacob Kruger
 

I know a few guys who would be very keen for this to work nicely with screen readers, etc., and, while have had no involvement in NVDA add-on development, I do have some experience with python programming.


One issue is was unable to find any real form of a download link to try out your software on your site?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017/11/29 17:49, fredm73@... wrote:

I am the author of a free chess playing program, ChessSpeak.  I have a YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NXo8GzIORQ) and a Users' Guide (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IIazPm57vNei4w51fnxBpUzSRnuL58ncBn3xXhSCEik). This program allows for speech input from the player and replies with voice output. It has been used by many players over the past few years.

I wrote the program so that a sighted person could play with a regular chessboard, across the room from the computer, without using the mouse or keyboard (although it is not entirely hands free). I  did not intend this application for blind people, but have discovered there is interest in the blind community. ChessSpeak was developed without my awareness of NVDA.  One user told me he is using NVDA and that led me to this group.

How can I make ChessSpeak more friendly to blind people?  What are some very general, and then some specific guidelines?  I have read the Developers' Guide (https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html) and understand it in a general way, although my Python skills are not strong.

If anyone could offer me specific suggestions or help for my application I would appreciated it. If anyone wants to develop the NVDA linkage to ChessSpeak that would be wonderful.


StationPlaylist Studoi add-on 17.12 #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

StationPlaylist Studio add-on 17.12 is now available. Note that this release requires Windows 7 SP1 or higher.

More info can be found at:

https://github.com/josephsl/stationplaylist/releases/tag/17.12

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Calendar or reminder app that works well with NVDA?

John Isige
 

Hi all. Any got a recommendation for one or more of these? I'm guessing something that will sit in the system tray or something. I'm not running Outlook, and I can never remember if Thunderbird has a calendar or if it's an add-on, or how useful it is.


Re: After unistall Office 2016 with Microsoft Removal Tool nvda don't work fine

Gene
 

I wouldn't assume that.  and this is a different version that was installed after the current version was uninstalled which may also be a reason the dlls weren't reregistered.  I think this is a case of it not happening and, though I'm not certain, I think I've seen comments by people who reinstalled Word, the same version, and the dlls weren't reregistered.  We'll see if people comment on that. 
 
If this problem is going to be ongoing, then NVDA should have an item in its menu that says something like register dlls so people can just perform this task from the program. 
 
Gene

Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] After unistall Office 2016 with Microsoft Removal Tool nvda don't work fine

Office installers have a habbit of unregistering dlls but if you
reinstall office that should be ok.




On 30/11/2017 10:29 a.m., Gene wrote:
> It may be the unregistered dlls problem again.  Others can comment further and I don't know if it could cause such problems but it causes problems when office is removed so that's my guess.
>
> I bet you can't use Internet Explorer, Firefox, or Chrome either.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Alessandro Albano via Groups.Io
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 2:09 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] After unistall Office 2016 with Microsoft Removal Tool nvda don't work fine
>
>
> Hi,
>
> today, in the work workstation,I've decided to unistall Office 2016 and
> install Office 2010, because nvda work very well with office 2010.
>
> The IT team decide to remove office with Microsoft Removal Tool.
>
> After this operation the IT operator install office 2010.
>
> After rebboting the system, windows 10, nvda don't work fine.
>
> Don't read a lot of program interface, this is an extract nvda log:
>
>
> DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole
> (17:56:40.368):
> accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'Parametro non corretto.', (None, None,
> None, 0, None))
> IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (17:56:41.923):
> Input: kb(desktop):windows+x
> IO - speech.speak (17:56:41.964):
> Speaking [u'Sconosciuto']
> DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (17:56:42.013):
> oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 460776, objectID -4 and
> childID 0: [Error -2147312566] Errore durante il caricamento della
> libreria DLL dei tipi
> IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (17:56:43.450):
> Input: kb(desktop):escape
>
> Any idea for resolve this problem?
>
> Thanks.
>




Re: After unistall Office 2016 with Microsoft Removal Tool nvda don't work fine

 

Office installers have a habbit of unregistering dlls but if you reinstall office that should be ok.

On 30/11/2017 10:29 a.m., Gene wrote:
It may be the unregistered dlls problem again. Others can comment further and I don't know if it could cause such problems but it causes problems when office is removed so that's my guess.

I bet you can't use Internet Explorer, Firefox, or Chrome either.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Alessandro Albano via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 2:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] After unistall Office 2016 with Microsoft Removal Tool nvda don't work fine


Hi,

today, in the work workstation,I've decided to unistall Office 2016 and
install Office 2010, because nvda work very well with office 2010.

The IT team decide to remove office with Microsoft Removal Tool.

After this operation the IT operator install office 2010.

After rebboting the system, windows 10, nvda don't work fine.

Don't read a lot of program interface, this is an extract nvda log:


DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole
(17:56:40.368):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'Parametro non corretto.', (None, None,
None, 0, None))
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (17:56:41.923):
Input: kb(desktop):windows+x
IO - speech.speak (17:56:41.964):
Speaking [u'Sconosciuto']
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (17:56:42.013):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 460776, objectID -4 and
childID 0: [Error -2147312566] Errore durante il caricamento della
libreria DLL dei tipi
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (17:56:43.450):
Input: kb(desktop):escape

Any idea for resolve this problem?

Thanks.


subscription info needed

Gary Metzler
 

Hi All,
 
Can someone send me the subscription info for the following groups.
blind tech
blind phone blind users
Thanks for any help.  Regards, Gary kn4ox
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Re: After unistall Office 2016 with Microsoft Removal Tool nvda don't work fine

Gene
 

It may be the unregistered dlls problem again.  Others can comment further and I don't know if it could cause such problems but it causes problems when office is removed so that's my guess.
 
I bet you can't use Internet Explorer, Firefox, or Chrome either.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 2:09 PM
Subject: [nvda] After unistall Office 2016 with Microsoft Removal Tool nvda don't work fine

Hi,

today, in the work workstation,I've decided to unistall Office 2016 and
install Office 2010, because nvda work very well with office 2010.

The IT team decide to remove office with Microsoft Removal Tool.

After this operation the IT operator install office 2010.

After rebboting the system, windows 10, nvda don't work fine.

Don't read a lot of program interface, this is an extract nvda log:


DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole
(17:56:40.368):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'Parametro non corretto.', (None, None,
None, 0, None))
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (17:56:41.923):
Input: kb(desktop):windows+x
IO - speech.speak (17:56:41.964):
Speaking [u'Sconosciuto']
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (17:56:42.013):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 460776, objectID -4 and
childID 0: [Error -2147312566] Errore durante il caricamento della
libreria DLL dei tipi
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (17:56:43.450):
Input: kb(desktop):escape

Any idea for resolve this problem?

Thanks.

--
Alessandro




After unistall Office 2016 with Microsoft Removal Tool nvda don't work fine

Alessandro Albano
 

Hi,

today, in the work workstation,I've decided to unistall Office 2016 and install Office 2010, because nvda work very well with office 2010.

The IT team decide to remove office with Microsoft Removal Tool.

After this operation the IT operator install office 2010.

After rebboting the system, windows 10, nvda don't work fine.

Don't read a lot of program interface, this is an extract nvda log:


DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (17:56:40.368):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'Parametro non corretto.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (17:56:41.923):
Input: kb(desktop):windows+x
IO - speech.speak (17:56:41.964):
Speaking [u'Sconosciuto']
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (17:56:42.013):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 460776, objectID -4 and childID 0: [Error -2147312566] Errore durante il caricamento della libreria DLL dei tipi
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (17:56:43.450):
Input: kb(desktop):escape

Any idea for resolve this problem?

Thanks.

--
Alessandro


Re: Resource Monitor 17.12, Windows 10 App Essentials 17.12 #addonrelease

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I think its pretty obvious that the calculation could be done fairly easily, but the question is, if it was just a part of what you get now, would that be OK? If you want a separate function key then there seems to be a great demand for non clashing keys just now and its getting harder to find them as we go onward.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Resource Monitor 17.12, Windows 10 App Essentials 17.12 #AddonRelease


Exactly yes that's where I go to look, but imagine having this info available on the fly? thus the idea of implementing such a feature.

Gera
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El 29/11/2017, a la(s) 10:49 a. m., Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> escribió:

Hi,
I add that you can obtain remaining space on a drive through drive properties (Windows Explorer/File Explorer).

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 8:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Resource Monitor 17.12, Windows 10 App Essentials 17.12 #AddonRelease

Hi,
Hmmm, at this stage, probably not.
Cheers,
Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 6:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Resource Monitor 17.12, Windows 10 App Essentials 17.12 #AddonRelease

Has a keystroke been introduced to let us know how much space is left on the drives with actual figures and not have to subtract to get the actual amount of space left? For instance mine says C:\ (NTFS unidad): 258.13gb de 280.79gb utilizado 91.9%. F:\ (FAT32 unidad): 7.25mb de 1.99gb utilizado 0.4%. when I'd like it to have a keystroke where it'd say something like (NTFS unidad): Space remaining 22.6 GBlike this for all the drives. Would such a keystroke for instance of the eight be possible to implement?

El 28/11/2017 a las 07:44 p.m., Lev escribió:

great job!

thanks.



Leo
El 28/11/2017 a las 19:04, Joseph Lee escribió:
Hi all,

Resource Monitor and Windows 10 App Essentials have been updated to version 17.12. Resource Monitor will now recognize 64-bit ARM processors on Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, and exciting features from the next Windows 10 feature update are now supported via Windows 10 App Essentials.

Enjoy.
Cheers,
Joseph



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Re: Please help a Chess program developer

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I don't really understand Chess but have blind friends who do. Are you saying you would like this to be self voicing completely or just so it can speak via nvda. I suppose you would need to really talk with one of the developers at NV Access in the latter case as obviously any code written would need to be using one of the supported APIs nvda can see, or trying to find controls would be hard. However does it say the moves and what the outcomes are already? If so it might be better to use the self voicing route and let those using it with nvda simply use a voice off profile when the exe file is running.
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----- Original Message -----
From: <fredm73@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer


I am the author of a free chess playing program, ChessSpeak. I have a YouTube video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NXo8GzIORQ ) and a Users' Guide ( https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IIazPm57vNei4w51fnxBpUzSRnuL58ncBn3xXhSCEik ) . This program allows for speech input from the player and replies with voice output. It has been used by many players over the past few years.

I wrote the program so that a sighted person could play with a regular chessboard, across the room from the computer, without using the mouse or keyboard (although it is not entirely hands free). I did not intend this application for blind people, but have discovered there is interest in the blind community. ChessSpeak was developed without my awareness of NVDA. One user told me he is using NVDA and that led me to this group.

How can I make ChessSpeak more friendly to blind people? What are some very general, and then some specific guidelines? I have read the Developers' Guide ( https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html ) and understand it in a general way, although my Python skills are not strong.

If anyone could offer me specific suggestions or help for my application I would appreciated it. If anyone wants to develop the NVDA linkage to ChessSpeak that would be wonderful.


Re: narrator info.rther review?

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Are you using capslock as an nvda key?
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Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator info.rther review?


Hi david

I tried the caps lock plus m, to read all. But it didn’t work.

Is there a command that can be used without the caps lock?

Thanks in advance

Anthony



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 28 November 2017 13:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator info.rther review?





Did you try the Caps lock M key I suggested in the previous email to read all?

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts



From: anthony borg <mailto:anthonyborg001@...>
Sent: 28 November 2017 12:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator info.rther review?



Hi david

Thanks very much for the info.

By any chance do you kow what I should do to read a whole text from top to bottom in narrator please?

Thanks in advance

Anthony



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 28 November 2017 00:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator info.rther review?



Not the David you were emailing but I think you can also get to Narrator Settings using windows U and pressing tab.

Reading all document is an unintuitive Cap lock m

David Griffith

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From: anthony borg <mailto:anthonyborg001@...>
Sent: 27 November 2017 13:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator info.rther review?



Hello david

On the narrator manual it says to to go to settings I have to press ctrl plus alt plus n, but that is the NVDA key stroke to turn on NVDA. And also what is the command key to read a whole text from top to botto plese?

Thanks in advance

Anthony m



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: 27 November 2017 04:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: narrator info.rther review?



Yes most definitely!,

turn on Narrator with CTRL+Windows+Enter, and go to any image,

Press:

Shift+Caps Lock+D.

Narrator will describe the image, even if there is no text.

Very powerful!

Please email me off list if you want.

I believe that Narrator uses some kind of service to do this image description.

David Moore

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From: Robert Mendoza <mailto:lowvisiontek@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 10:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] virtualizing the current window for further review?



Hi, David

Can you shed some guidelines how it works in windows 10? I would like to test how could be possibly use this features.

Robert Mendoza

On 11/27/2017 10:44 AM, David Moore wrote:

Yes, Narrator does have this ability in the Fall Crators 1709.

David Moore

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From: Robert Mendoza <mailto:lowvisiontek@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] virtualizing the current window for further review?



Thanks. I do hope on the next future releases of Windows 10 has to

include this feature, like they did on the app of Seeing AI. Apology to

the admin for raising this off topic however, it is very interesting to

discuss it here somehow.



Robert Mendoza



On 11/27/2017 9:02 AM, John Isige wrote:

No, it just tries to recognize text. It can't do the Facebook "picture
may contain dog" thing, I think Narrator does something like that but
I've never tried it. But that's something specific to Microsoft that
Narrator's built to take advantage of, I don't think other screen
readers have access to it.
On 11/26/2017 17:21, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Sorry to interfere the discussion here but seemingly relevant somehow
to ask. Just curious how precise does the OCR works with Windows 10
, I mean I have the installed version of the latest Windows 10 but,
how could possibly extend to recognize such text or images? For the
text I believe they worked but how about to particular images
represent to certain docs or sites. Do they have the capability to
recognize fully and how to describe the image was for, like telling
to the users what exactly the images looks like.
Robert Mendoza
On 11/27/2017 6:55 AM, John Isige wrote:
NVDA-r runs either the OCR addon if you have it installed in
previous versions of Windows, or Windows OCR in Windows 10. It will
give you that kind of buffer-like thing if it recognizes text, yes.
On 11/26/2017 16:34, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
and think nvda r might do it.
On 26/11/2017 20:27, John Isige wrote:
There is an addon, that gives you a hotkey.
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/virtualRevision.en.html
On 11/26/2017 14:24, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I didn't' actually see it, but I thougth there was a keyboard
hot key I could hit to do this, or am I thinking of a different
screen reader.
Take care
On Nov 26, 2017, at 12:20 PM, John Isige <mailto:gwynn@...> <gwynn@...> wrote:
There' an addon.
On 11/26/2017 14:19, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Is there a way of doing this? Can I hit a key stroke that will
turn let's say an error window into a virtual buffer for which
I can then copy to the clip board?
I thought there was a way to do this but I'm using the laptop
layout.
Take care


Re: Resource Monitor 17.12, Windows 10 App Essentials 17.12 #addonrelease

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I'd have thought that this was a simple sum so if the needed routine was included maybe a setting to toggle this might be good.
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Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Resource Monitor 17.12, Windows 10 App Essentials 17.12 #AddonRelease


Hi,

Hmmm, at this stage, probably not.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo
Corripio
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 6:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Resource Monitor 17.12, Windows 10 App Essentials 17.12
#AddonRelease



Has a keystroke been introduced to let us know how much space is left on the
drives with actual figures and not have to subtract to get the actual amount
of space left? For instance mine says C:\ (NTFS unidad): 258.13gb de
280.79gb utilizado 91.9%. F:\ (FAT32 unidad): 7.25mb de 1.99gb utilizado
0.4%. when I'd like it to have a keystroke where it'd say something like
(NTFS unidad): Space remaining 22.6 GBlike this for all the drives. Would
such a keystroke for instance of the eight be possible to implement?

El 28/11/2017 a las 07:44 p.m., Lev escribió:

great job!

thanks.



Leo

El 28/11/2017 a las 19:04, Joseph Lee escribió:

Hi all,



Resource Monitor and Windows 10 App Essentials have been updated to version
17.12. Resource Monitor will now recognize 64-bit ARM processors on Windows
10 Fall Creators Update, and exciting features from the next Windows 10
feature update are now supported via Windows 10 App Essentials.



Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph







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Re: NVDA announcing when enter key is pressed

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Messages arriving here out of sequence again so my replies might be stupid.
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Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:06 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA announcing when enter key is pressed


NVDA has stopped announcing when the enter key is used to move down to a new line in word


Re: Very frustrating error in Outlook 2016

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It reminds me of when a program forgets to tell nvda its done something. If as you say moving the focus away and back fixes it, then it could be a problem with Outlook itself or nvda simply not getting the event, but that seems odd as if that was the case why do the 200 work in the first place. When you go to the message and come back and it reads it, is the 200+ moved as well?
In other words is it like a 200 message window on a much larger list but the window is not the screen size obviously, that would be silly.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Very frustrating error in Outlook 2016

Brian,

Thanks for taking an interest in this topic! You put a few different questions here. I will try to answer them:
1. The threshold is at the nth item not related to a position on the screen. For example, if the 124th item is the last one from the beginning that NVDA does not speak, then the 125th one is spoken. If I am arrowing down the list, this 124th item would be at the bottom of the screen. However, when reading from the spoken items backwards up towards the beginning of the list, the 125th item would be at the top of the screen. An up-arrow to the silent 124th item would keep the 124th item at the top of the screen. So, the position on the screen is not related to the problem.

2. If the item is not spoken, I can press tab once and then when I press shift + tab back onto the silent item, NVDA does speak out its details.

3. Even when the message is silent after pressing the arrow key, it will open when I press the enter key and NVDA will read the body of the message correctly in the usual way. This means that the cursor is still active on the item and all windows controls such as up and down arrows, tabs etc. are functioning. It's just that NVDA is silent on that particular list item details.

All the best,

Cearbhall

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Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 9:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Very frustrating error in Outlook 2016

Hmm, well, I'm assuming here that no matter what the scrolling state of this list is, the same point always stops reading,as I doubt all 200 are on screen together is what I mean. In this case it does look like there is no data coming to nvda about any scrolling or highlighting of a message. If you use nvda/b does this reveal the missing text and can it be gotten to in one of the navigation modes, as to me at least if it can actually be seen by nvda, then the problem seems to be that something is stopping nvda from knowing its actually at the point that you need to read the info. If you go down a couple of lines to the un-announced item, can you then open it and read it or does it open the one it stopped at?
Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Very frustrating error in Outlook 2016


Brian,

Here is the essential part of the NVDA log showing two messages being read
on the list and then two more up-arrow strokes which are not spoken. I then
reverse with down-arrow through the silent message items until the same
messages are spoken. Note the line numbers at the end of each spoken
message.

Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (13:04:05.647):
Speaking [u"Red flag To 'Joseph Lee', Subject RE: attaching log file to new
issue on GitHub , Sent Fri 01/09/2017 23:32, Size 18 KB, row 266 column
1"]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:04:14.517):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (13:04:14.602):
Speaking [u'To fb-exchange@..., Subject Seeing AI, Sent Sat
02/09/2017 12:16, Size 6 KB, row 265 column 1']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:04:22.319):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:04:24.869):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:04:30.263):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:04:31.456):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:04:32.930):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (13:04:33.029):
Speaking [u"Red flag To 'Joseph Lee', Subject RE: attaching log file to new
issue on GitHub , Sent Fri 01/09/2017 23:32, Size 18 KB, row 266 column
1"]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:04:41.927):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (13:04:42.042):
Speaking [u"To 'Joseph Lee', Subject RE: attaching log file to new issue on
GitHub , Sent Fri 01/09/2017 23:20, Size 12 KB, row 267 column 1"]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:04:47.413):

You can view the full log file at this public link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jtzff2gyijq29mg/nvda%20not%20reading%20listed%20messages%20%202017.txt?dl=0

All the best,

Cearbhall

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Very frustrating error in Outlook 2016

Unfortunately as previously mentioned you cannot attach files in this list,
you can though use a public dropbox link to one.
Unfortunately I do not have 2016 Office so cannot help but it would be
interesting to find somebody with windows 7 and the version you are using as
well as another windows 10 user. I've just been trying to figure this out
though. 200 does not sound like a number that a computer issue would choose,
it sounds almost like a number invented by a human. Most numbers in
computers revolve around how many bits are used to store the number possibly
in hex or binary form.

In my old copy of outlook express for example i could get it to read the
whole list of hundreds, though I'd probably go to sleep first.
The work around of course is to make new folders and shove a months worth
into dated folders.

Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Very frustrating error in Outlook 2016


Martin,



I think you may have missed an important point. NVDA is not missing part of
the screen. It is reading the screen all around the list. The problem is
consistent with NVDA only reading the last 200 items in a list that exceeds
200 messages in length. As only 40 messages at most can be displayed on the
screen, there is no way that this problem relates to screen capture! When I
remove enough emails from the list so that 200 messages or less are now
contained in the list, all the messages are read when moving the up or down
arrow on the list. To make sure that the problem is not specific to any
individual messages, I deliberately removed messages from the bottom of the
list. When, for example, 20 messages were removed from the bottom of a list
of 450 messages, the first messages spoken moved up from number 250 to
number 230.



It is as if NVDA has a frame of maximum 200 list items and positions this
frame at the bottom of the list rather than at the beginning. This holds
true even after I reverse the sort order of the messages in the list.



I have attached a more precise log file that shows what is happening.



All the best,



Cearbhall



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O'Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 10:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Very frustrating error in Outlook 2016



I want to try it on a machine which I know doesn't have the issue, and see
if I can introduce the issue using virtual box. I suspect it is either a
memory issue, or a graphics card issue. It may prove inconclusive, however
apart from the loss of time, I can’t see any other downsides to giving it a
shot.

The error is very strange, and it seems like NVDA is just skipping part of
the screen.







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I don't see how that would work as you are introducing yet another variable.
You might find that the hardware is masked if it is on the parent system.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Very frustrating error in Outlook 2016



How about using Virtual box, to create a copy of the machine, and running
it on different hardware , to see if there is an issue with it on different
hardware?


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On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 11:35 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <
cearbhall.omeadhra@... <mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@...> > wrote:

Colleagues,



We are all very committed to NVDA and believe totally in the Trojan work
that the development team are doing to provide this wonderful screen
reader. I often find it to perform better than the commercial product JAWS
and that is saying a great deal because JAWS is also an excellent product
even though it costs the earth to have it!



If nobody can help with this problem, I am afraid that I am going to have
to use JAWS rather than NVDA to cope with it. Do you really want that to
happen?



I raised this on GitHub last year. I was met then with stunning silence! I
would like to run over it with you, if you don’t mind?



It normally comes and goes and is not always reproduceable. However, since
I moved to Office 365 online, it has become a permanent feature of the “Sent
Items” folder in Outlook 2016. I am running Windows 10 and NVDA 2017.3.



I have copied the log file and attach it here for your reference.



Here’s the story:

I prefer to display messages in the various folders as a simple list and
Outlook defaults to showing them in groups. So, I have learnt to turn off
“show in groups” whenever I come across it. Since Office 365 online, I
find that when I go to the “Sent Items” folder with groups turned off, I
can see only the message that is under the cursor. I would expect to hear
the next message in the list after pressing down-arrow as in the Inbox and
most other folders. However, here there is silence, even though I press
down or up-arrow many times. If I keep pressing down arrow until message 50
(more or less, it varies!) suddenly, I can hear all the messages listed. If
I up-arrow back up the list, I cross a threshold at the same message where
the voicing began and all is silent again. Down-arrow back down the list
and I break back into voicing the messages at the same threshold of message
51. If I press “end” I will drop down to the last message in the Sent
Items windows (about number 250, for example). I hear it fine. And
repeating up-arrow voices all the prior messages as I reverse up the list
until number 50 again when all goes silent.



In the attached log. I positioned on the “Sent Items” folder with “Show
in groups” unchecked. I then restarted NVDA to freshen the log. In the
log, I have typed in a message bound by three asterisks (***) to make it
easier to find where the error report starts.

Back to my story:

Then, with the refreshed NVDA, I pressed alt+v>a>b for the “Arrange By”
View menu. I then press up-arrow twice to “Show in Groups” which was
unchecked so I press space bar to check it.



Now, when I press up-arrow or down-arrow, I hear the group title and then
each of the messages that were not being voiced before.



To test this I went back into the “arrange By menu and turn off “Show in
groups” and, again, the messages in the top 50 are not being voiced.



You will see the following error line if you look at my attached log:

accRole failed: (-2147417848, 'The object invoked has disconnected from
its clients.', (None,



I carried out some further tests and found that, in fact, the list is only
showing the last 200 messages in the list. When I have 250 messages, the
first 50 messages are silent under NVDA, until I reach the 51st message.
As I frequently have about 420 messages in my sent Items before archiving,
I usually find that the 220th message is silent and then suddenly the 221st
message is spoken!





To relieve my frustration, I loaded JAWS 2016 which does not have any
problem reading each message from top to bottom in the Sent Items list.
Should I have to admit to all my NVDA critics that NVDA cannot do it and
they had better use JAWS?



All the best,



Cearbhall




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Re: Resource Monitor 17.12, Windows 10 App Essentials 17.12 #addonrelease

Gerardo Corripio
 

Exactly yes that's where I go to look, but imagine having this info available on the fly? thus the idea of implementing such a feature.

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El 29/11/2017, a la(s) 10:49 a. m., Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> escribió:

Hi,

I add that you can obtain remaining space on a drive through drive properties (Windows Explorer/File Explorer).

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 8:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Resource Monitor 17.12, Windows 10 App Essentials 17.12 #AddonRelease

 

Hi,

Hmmm, at this stage, probably not.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 6:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Resource Monitor 17.12, Windows 10 App Essentials 17.12 #AddonRelease

 

Has a keystroke been introduced to let us know how much space is left on the drives with actual figures and not have to subtract to get the actual amount of space left? For instance mine says C:\ (NTFS unidad): 258.13gb de 280.79gb utilizado 91.9%. F:\ (FAT32 unidad): 7.25mb de 1.99gb utilizado 0.4%. when I'd like it to have a keystroke where it'd say something like (NTFS unidad): Space remaining 22.6 GBlike this for all the drives. Would such a keystroke for instance of the eight be possible to implement?

El 28/11/2017 a las 07:44 p.m., Lev escribió:

great job!

thanks.

 

Leo

El 28/11/2017 a las 19:04, Joseph Lee escribió:

Hi all,

 

Resource Monitor and Windows 10 App Essentials have been updated to version 17.12. Resource Monitor will now recognize 64-bit ARM processors on Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, and exciting features from the next Windows 10 feature update are now supported via Windows 10 App Essentials.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

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Please help a Chess program developer

fredm73@...
 

I am the author of a free chess playing program, ChessSpeak.  I have a YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NXo8GzIORQ) and a Users' Guide (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IIazPm57vNei4w51fnxBpUzSRnuL58ncBn3xXhSCEik). This program allows for speech input from the player and replies with voice output. It has been used by many players over the past few years.

I wrote the program so that a sighted person could play with a regular chessboard, across the room from the computer, without using the mouse or keyboard (although it is not entirely hands free). I  did not intend this application for blind people, but have discovered there is interest in the blind community. ChessSpeak was developed without my awareness of NVDA.  One user told me he is using NVDA and that led me to this group.

How can I make ChessSpeak more friendly to blind people?  What are some very general, and then some specific guidelines?  I have read the Developers' Guide (https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html) and understand it in a general way, although my Python skills are not strong.

If anyone could offer me specific suggestions or help for my application I would appreciated it. If anyone wants to develop the NVDA linkage to ChessSpeak that would be wonderful.


Re: Resource Monitor 17.12, Windows 10 App Essentials 17.12 #addonrelease

Gene
 

I don't know where you are looking but in properties for the drive, it shows used space and free space.
 
Gene

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Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Resource Monitor 17.12, Windows 10 App Essentials 17.12 #AddonRelease

Has a keystroke been introduced to let us know how much space is left on the drives with actual figures and not have to subtract to get the actual amount of space left? For instance mine says C:\ (NTFS unidad): 258.13gb de 280.79gb utilizado 91.9%. F:\ (FAT32 unidad): 7.25mb de 1.99gb utilizado 0.4%. when I'd like it to have a keystroke where it'd say something like (NTFS unidad): Space remaining 22.6 GBlike this for all the drives. Would such a keystroke for instance of the eight be possible to implement?

El 28/11/2017 a las 07:44 p.m., Lev escribió:

great job!

thanks.


Leo
El 28/11/2017 a las 19:04, Joseph Lee escribió:

Hi all,

 

Resource Monitor and Windows 10 App Essentials have been updated to version 17.12. Resource Monitor will now recognize 64-bit ARM processors on Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, and exciting features from the next Windows 10 feature update are now supported via Windows 10 App Essentials.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph



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Re: narrator info.rther review?

anthony borg
 

Hi david

I tried the caps lock plus m, to read all. But it didn’t work.

Is there a command that can be used without the caps lock?

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 28 November 2017 13:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator info.rther review?

 

 

Did you try the Caps lock M key I suggested in the previous email to read all?

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: 28 November 2017 12:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator info.rther review?

 

Hi david

Thanks very much for the info.

By any chance do you kow what I should do to read a whole text from top to bottom in narrator please?

Thanks in advance

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 28 November 2017 00:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator info.rther review?

 

Not the David you were emailing but I think you can also get to Narrator Settings using windows U and pressing tab.

Reading all document is an unintuitive Cap lock m

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: 27 November 2017 13:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator info.rther review?

 

Hello david

On the narrator manual it says to to go to settings I have to press ctrl plus alt plus n, but that is the NVDA key stroke to turn on NVDA. And also what is the command key to read a whole text from top to botto plese?

Thanks in advance

Anthony m

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: 27 November 2017 04:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: narrator info.rther review?

 

Yes most definitely!,

turn on Narrator with CTRL+Windows+Enter, and go to any image,

Press:

Shift+Caps Lock+D.

Narrator will describe the image, even if there is no text.

Very powerful!

Please email me off list if you want.

I believe that Narrator uses some kind of service to do this image description.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Robert Mendoza
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 10:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] virtualizing the current window for further review?

 

Hi, David

Can you shed some guidelines how it works in windows 10? I would like to test how could be possibly use this features.

Robert Mendoza

On 11/27/2017 10:44 AM, David Moore wrote:

Yes, Narrator does have this ability in the Fall Crators 1709.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Robert Mendoza
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] virtualizing the current window for further review?

 

Thanks. I do hope on the next future releases of Windows 10 has to

include this feature, like they did on the app of Seeing AI. Apology to

the admin for raising this off topic however, it is very interesting to

discuss it here somehow.

 

Robert Mendoza

 

On 11/27/2017 9:02 AM, John Isige wrote:

> No, it just tries to recognize text. It can't do the Facebook "picture

> may contain dog" thing, I think Narrator does something like that but

> I've never tried it. But that's something specific to Microsoft that

> Narrator's built to take advantage of, I don't think other screen

> readers have access to it.

> On 11/26/2017 17:21, Robert Mendoza wrote:

>> Sorry to interfere the discussion here but seemingly relevant somehow

>> to ask.  Just curious how precise does the OCR works with Windows 10

>> , I mean I have the installed version of the latest Windows 10 but,

>> how could possibly extend to recognize such text or images? For the

>> text I believe they worked but how about to particular images

>> represent to certain docs or sites. Do they have the capability to

>> recognize fully and how to describe the image was for, like telling

>> to the users what exactly the images looks like.

>> 

>> Robert Mendoza

>> 

>> On 11/27/2017 6:55 AM, John Isige wrote:

>>> NVDA-r runs either the OCR addon if you have it installed in

>>> previous versions of Windows, or Windows OCR in Windows 10. It will

>>> give you that kind of buffer-like thing if it recognizes text, yes.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> On 11/26/2017 16:34, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:

>>>> and think nvda r might do it.

>>>> 

>>>> On 26/11/2017 20:27, John Isige wrote:

>>>>> There is an addon, that gives you a hotkey.

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/virtualRevision.en.html

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> On 11/26/2017 14:24, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

>>>>>> I didn't' actually see it, but  I thougth there was a  keyboard

>>>>>> hot key I could hit to do this, or am I thinking of a different

>>>>>> screen reader.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> Take care

>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> On Nov 26, 2017, at 12:20 PM, John Isige <gwynn@...> wrote:

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> There' an addon.

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> On 11/26/2017 14:19, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

>>>>>>>> Is there  a way of doing this? Can I hit a key stroke that will

>>>>>>>> turn let's say an error window into a virtual buffer for which

>>>>>>>> I can then copy to the clip board?

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>> I thought there was a way to do this but I'm using the laptop

>>>>>>>> layout.

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>> Take care

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Resource Monitor 17.12, Windows 10 App Essentials 17.12 #addonrelease

 

Hi,

I add that you can obtain remaining space on a drive through drive properties (Windows Explorer/File Explorer).

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 8:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Resource Monitor 17.12, Windows 10 App Essentials 17.12 #AddonRelease

 

Hi,

Hmmm, at this stage, probably not.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 6:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Resource Monitor 17.12, Windows 10 App Essentials 17.12 #AddonRelease

 

Has a keystroke been introduced to let us know how much space is left on the drives with actual figures and not have to subtract to get the actual amount of space left? For instance mine says C:\ (NTFS unidad): 258.13gb de 280.79gb utilizado 91.9%. F:\ (FAT32 unidad): 7.25mb de 1.99gb utilizado 0.4%. when I'd like it to have a keystroke where it'd say something like (NTFS unidad): Space remaining 22.6 GBlike this for all the drives. Would such a keystroke for instance of the eight be possible to implement?

El 28/11/2017 a las 07:44 p.m., Lev escribió:

great job!

thanks.

 

Leo

El 28/11/2017 a las 19:04, Joseph Lee escribió:

Hi all,

 

Resource Monitor and Windows 10 App Essentials have been updated to version 17.12. Resource Monitor will now recognize 64-bit ARM processors on Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, and exciting features from the next Windows 10 feature update are now supported via Windows 10 App Essentials.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

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Re: Resource Monitor 17.12, Windows 10 App Essentials 17.12 #addonrelease

 

Hi,

Hmmm, at this stage, probably not.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 6:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Resource Monitor 17.12, Windows 10 App Essentials 17.12 #AddonRelease

 

Has a keystroke been introduced to let us know how much space is left on the drives with actual figures and not have to subtract to get the actual amount of space left? For instance mine says C:\ (NTFS unidad): 258.13gb de 280.79gb utilizado 91.9%. F:\ (FAT32 unidad): 7.25mb de 1.99gb utilizado 0.4%. when I'd like it to have a keystroke where it'd say something like (NTFS unidad): Space remaining 22.6 GBlike this for all the drives. Would such a keystroke for instance of the eight be possible to implement?

El 28/11/2017 a las 07:44 p.m., Lev escribió:

great job!

thanks.

 

Leo

El 28/11/2017 a las 19:04, Joseph Lee escribió:

Hi all,

 

Resource Monitor and Windows 10 App Essentials have been updated to version 17.12. Resource Monitor will now recognize 64-bit ARM processors on Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, and exciting features from the next Windows 10 feature update are now supported via Windows 10 App Essentials.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph

 



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