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Re: NVDA 2017.4rc3 released #nvdasr

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Mick is crossing everything for Monday I think.
I expect some people will find something odd, but hopefully its minor.
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From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...>
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Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2017.4rc3 released #NVDAsr


Also I think this is the first time we have ever gone to rc3 its not often.

How close are we from release, I guess once there are no more bugs.




On 30/11/2017 1:47 p.m., Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

They say the best things come in threes and now NVDA 2017.4rc3 is available
for testing! Coincidence? Probably, but in any case, this release fixes
performance issues in applications such as MIRC which draw a lot of text to
the screen. For the full details of what is new, and to download the new
build, head to: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2017-4rc3-released/

Kind regards

Quentin.
#NVDAsr


Re: installing 2017-4 RC3

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As a matter of interest do you use caps lock as the nvda key?
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From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 1:00 AM
Subject: [nvda] installing 2017-4 RC3


Used the check for updates under the help of the NVDA UI. Installed RC 3 over RC2. For some reason during the update the Windows 10 settings screen opened and was showing the settings for Narrator. Never seen this happen before. Doesn't seem to have caused any issues with the update just strange that it happened.



Re: NVDA 2017.4rc3 released #nvdasr

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Does it fix the combo box issues in chrome on google translate and amazons departments?
I don't use Chrome myself, but have seen several messages about this working before but not now on this list.
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From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2017.4rc3 released #NVDAsr


Hi everyone,

They say the best things come in threes and now NVDA 2017.4rc3 is available
for testing! Coincidence? Probably, but in any case, this release fixes
performance issues in applications such as MIRC which draw a lot of text to
the screen. For the full details of what is new, and to download the new
build, head to: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2017-4rc3-released/

Kind regards

Quentin.
#NVDAsr
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Re: Calendar or reminder app that works well with NVDA?

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Depends if it has to interface with other apps or not. I'm using the wbbie one myself but i prefer not to have calendars messing with other software.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Isige" <gwynn@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:54 PM
Subject: [nvda] Calendar or reminder app that works well with NVDA?


Hi all. Any got a recommendation for one or more of these? I'm guessing something that will sit in the system tray or something. I'm not running Outlook, and I can never remember if Thunderbird has a calendar or if it's an add-on, or how useful it is.



Re: After unistall Office 2016 with Microsoft Removal Tool nvda don't work fine

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The problem occurs though if its a different office version.

I don't think Microsoft have altered the installers and uninstallers at all and also have still got the bug in the old versions of course as they are installed.
What we really need to know here is this. If this command we all have to use in such cases, is used when the problem is either not there or is a different problem does it have adverse effects on an installed windows system.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] After unistall Office 2016 with Microsoft Removal Tool nvda don't work fine


Office installers have a habbit of unregistering dlls but if you reinstall office that should be ok.




On 30/11/2017 10:29 a.m., Gene wrote:
It may be the unregistered dlls problem again. Others can comment further and I don't know if it could cause such problems but it causes problems when office is removed so that's my guess.

I bet you can't use Internet Explorer, Firefox, or Chrome either.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Alessandro Albano via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 2:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] After unistall Office 2016 with Microsoft Removal Tool nvda don't work fine


Hi,

today, in the work workstation,I've decided to unistall Office 2016 and
install Office 2010, because nvda work very well with office 2010.

The IT team decide to remove office with Microsoft Removal Tool.

After this operation the IT operator install office 2010.

After rebboting the system, windows 10, nvda don't work fine.

Don't read a lot of program interface, this is an extract nvda log:


DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole
(17:56:40.368):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'Parametro non corretto.', (None, None,
None, 0, None))
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (17:56:41.923):
Input: kb(desktop):windows+x
IO - speech.speak (17:56:41.964):
Speaking [u'Sconosciuto']
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (17:56:42.013):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 460776, objectID -4 and
childID 0: [Error -2147312566] Errore durante il caricamento della
libreria DLL dei tipi
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (17:56:43.450):
Input: kb(desktop):escape

Any idea for resolve this problem?

Thanks.


test

Gary Metzler
 

I am just testing the ms mail app.  Thanks,

 

Regards, Gary kn4ox

 


Re: subscription info needed

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Blindphones.groups.io is on the Mozen consulting web site.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Metzler" <gmtravel@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 9:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] subscription info needed


Hi All,

Can someone send me the subscription info for the following groups.
blind tech
blind phone blind users
Thanks for any help. Regards, Gary kn4ox
sendto: gmtravel@...


Re: After unistall Office 2016 with Microsoft Removal Tool nvda don't work fine

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Sounds like its the old Microsoft uninstall not re registering dlls issue. I thought they had supposedly fixed this but maybe not, obviously!
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From: "Alessandro Albano via Groups.Io" <sharkboy_torino@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 8:09 PM
Subject: [nvda] After unistall Office 2016 with Microsoft Removal Tool nvda don't work fine


Hi,

today, in the work workstation,I've decided to unistall Office 2016 and install Office 2010, because nvda work very well with office 2010.

The IT team decide to remove office with Microsoft Removal Tool.

After this operation the IT operator install office 2010.

After rebboting the system, windows 10, nvda don't work fine.

Don't read a lot of program interface, this is an extract nvda log:


DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (17:56:40.368):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'Parametro non corretto.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (17:56:41.923):
Input: kb(desktop):windows+x
IO - speech.speak (17:56:41.964):
Speaking [u'Sconosciuto']
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (17:56:42.013):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 460776, objectID -4 and childID 0: [Error -2147312566] Errore durante il caricamento della libreria DLL dei tipi
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (17:56:43.450):
Input: kb(desktop):escape

Any idea for resolve this problem?

Thanks.

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Re: Resource Monitor 17.12, Windows 10 App Essentials 17.12 #addonrelease

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I don't think this is the issue. the issue is convenience of hearing the info wherever you are without invoking new windows to find it.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Resource Monitor 17.12, Windows 10 App Essentials 17.12 #AddonRelease


I don't know where you are looking but in properties for the drive, it shows used space and free space.

Gene
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From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 8:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Resource Monitor 17.12, Windows 10 App Essentials 17.12 #AddonRelease


Has a keystroke been introduced to let us know how much space is left on the drives with actual figures and not have to subtract to get the actual amount of space left? For instance mine says C:\ (NTFS unidad): 258.13gb de 280.79gb utilizado 91.9%. F:\ (FAT32 unidad): 7.25mb de 1.99gb utilizado 0.4%. when I'd like it to have a keystroke where it'd say something like (NTFS unidad): Space remaining 22.6 GBlike this for all the drives. Would such a keystroke for instance of the eight be possible to implement?

El 28/11/2017 a las 07:44 p.m., Lev escribió:


great job!

thanks.




LeoEl 28/11/2017 a las 19:04, Joseph Lee escribió:

Hi all,



Resource Monitor and Windows 10 App Essentials have been updated to version 17.12. Resource Monitor will now recognize 64-bit ARM processors on Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, and exciting features from the next Windows 10 feature update are now supported via Windows 10 App Essentials.



Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph





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Re: Please help a Chess program developer

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Jacob:

My home page is at https://sites.google.com/site/fredm/.  At the bottom are the links to the chess programs, including ChessSpeak.  Click on the "down arrow" to the far right of the window and it will download the program.

Regards,

On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

I know a few guys who would be very keen for this to work nicely with screen readers, etc., and, while have had no involvement in NVDA add-on development, I do have some experience with python programming.


One issue is was unable to find any real form of a download link to try out your software on your site?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
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Skype: BlindZA
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On 2017/11/29 17:49, fredm73@... wrote:
I am the author of a free chess playing program, ChessSpeak.  I have a YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NXo8GzIORQ) and a Users' Guide (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IIazPm57vNei4w51fnxBpUzSRnuL58ncBn3xXhSCEik). This program allows for speech input from the player and replies with voice output. It has been used by many players over the past few years.

I wrote the program so that a sighted person could play with a regular chessboard, across the room from the computer, without using the mouse or keyboard (although it is not entirely hands free). I  did not intend this application for blind people, but have discovered there is interest in the blind community. ChessSpeak was developed without my awareness of NVDA.  One user told me he is using NVDA and that led me to this group.

How can I make ChessSpeak more friendly to blind people?  What are some very general, and then some specific guidelines?  I have read the Developers' Guide (https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html) and understand it in a general way, although my Python skills are not strong.

If anyone could offer me specific suggestions or help for my application I would appreciated it. If anyone wants to develop the NVDA linkage to ChessSpeak that would be wonderful.




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Re: NVDA 2017.4rc3 released #nvdasr

Quentin Christensen
 

If you've got the log from the install or when the new version first ran after installing - it will be one of those two times that the setting got changed.  Whether there is an entry for it in the log is another question (possibly depending on your log level).

It is an odd one...

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin


The same thing happened as last time but i know for a fact the following setting was checked called Automatically start NVDA after I log on to Windows


I just downloaded the RC3 release and this box was unchecked again as mentioned above.


I checked it after downloading it to see just in case. I know the setting was saved to start when windows does.


Come to think of it usually my level is set to debug but it was info..


What could be happening there?


I do not think there would be a log for it but can check.


Same details as before windows 10 Microsoft Windows
Version 1709 (OS Build 16299.64)

with a quad core machine 2 gig of ram and nvda 2017.4 rc3


After the update if i save the settings again it will not do it on the next reboot it works correctly.


Gene nz



On 11/30/2017 1:47 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

They say the best things come in threes and now NVDA 2017.4rc3 is available for testing! Coincidence? Probably, but in any case, this release fixes performance issues in applications such as MIRC which draw a lot of text to the screen. For the full details of what is new, and to download the new build, head to: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2017-4rc3-released/

Kind regards

Quentin.
#NVDAsr
--
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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.




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Re: NVDA 2017.4rc3 released #nvdasr

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Quentin


The same thing happened as last time but i know for a fact the following setting was checked called Automatically start NVDA after I log on to Windows


I just downloaded the RC3 release and this box was unchecked again as mentioned above.


I checked it after downloading it to see just in case. I know the setting was saved to start when windows does.


Come to think of it usually my level is set to debug but it was info..


What could be happening there?


I do not think there would be a log for it but can check.


Same details as before windows 10 Microsoft Windows
Version 1709 (OS Build 16299.64)

with a quad core machine 2 gig of ram and nvda 2017.4 rc3


After the update if i save the settings again it will not do it on the next reboot it works correctly.


Gene nz



On 11/30/2017 1:47 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

They say the best things come in threes and now NVDA 2017.4rc3 is available for testing! Coincidence? Probably, but in any case, this release fixes performance issues in applications such as MIRC which draw a lot of text to the screen. For the full details of what is new, and to download the new build, head to: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2017-4rc3-released/

Kind regards

Quentin.
#NVDAsr
--
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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: NVDA 2017.4rc3 released #nvdasr

 

Also I think this is the first time we have ever gone to rc3 its not often.

How close are we from release, I guess once there are no more bugs.

On 30/11/2017 1:47 p.m., Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

They say the best things come in threes and now NVDA 2017.4rc3 is available
for testing! Coincidence? Probably, but in any case, this release fixes
performance issues in applications such as MIRC which draw a lot of text to
the screen. For the full details of what is new, and to download the new
build, head to: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2017-4rc3-released/

Kind regards

Quentin.
#NVDAsr


Re: NVDA 2017.4rc3 released #nvdasr

 

I am interested in the arm support.

Does this mean nvda could run on something like windows 10 s or some arm locked version of windows as well as desktop.

If it could run on arm processers, then if a new windows phone came out with an arm processer I could run it.

If I can run it on a win10 phone and maybe have a nas or other attached network storage, good buy to the laptop.

On 30/11/2017 1:47 p.m., Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

They say the best things come in threes and now NVDA 2017.4rc3 is available
for testing! Coincidence? Probably, but in any case, this release fixes
performance issues in applications such as MIRC which draw a lot of text to
the screen. For the full details of what is new, and to download the new
build, head to: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2017-4rc3-released/

Kind regards

Quentin.
#NVDAsr


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installing 2017-4 RC3

Don H
 

Used the check for updates under the help of the NVDA UI. Installed RC 3 over RC2. For some reason during the update the Windows 10 settings screen opened and was showing the settings for Narrator. Never seen this happen before. Doesn't seem to have caused any issues with the update just strange that it happened.


NVDA 2017.4rc3 released #nvdasr

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

They say the best things come in threes and now NVDA 2017.4rc3 is available for testing! Coincidence? Probably, but in any case, this release fixes performance issues in applications such as MIRC which draw a lot of text to the screen. For the full details of what is new, and to download the new build, head to: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2017-4rc3-released/

Kind regards

Quentin.
#NVDAsr
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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Please help a Chess program developer

Jacob Kruger
 

I know a few guys who would be very keen for this to work nicely with screen readers, etc., and, while have had no involvement in NVDA add-on development, I do have some experience with python programming.


One issue is was unable to find any real form of a download link to try out your software on your site?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017/11/29 17:49, fredm73@... wrote:

I am the author of a free chess playing program, ChessSpeak.  I have a YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NXo8GzIORQ) and a Users' Guide (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IIazPm57vNei4w51fnxBpUzSRnuL58ncBn3xXhSCEik). This program allows for speech input from the player and replies with voice output. It has been used by many players over the past few years.

I wrote the program so that a sighted person could play with a regular chessboard, across the room from the computer, without using the mouse or keyboard (although it is not entirely hands free). I  did not intend this application for blind people, but have discovered there is interest in the blind community. ChessSpeak was developed without my awareness of NVDA.  One user told me he is using NVDA and that led me to this group.

How can I make ChessSpeak more friendly to blind people?  What are some very general, and then some specific guidelines?  I have read the Developers' Guide (https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html) and understand it in a general way, although my Python skills are not strong.

If anyone could offer me specific suggestions or help for my application I would appreciated it. If anyone wants to develop the NVDA linkage to ChessSpeak that would be wonderful.


StationPlaylist Studoi add-on 17.12 #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

StationPlaylist Studio add-on 17.12 is now available. Note that this release requires Windows 7 SP1 or higher.

More info can be found at:

https://github.com/josephsl/stationplaylist/releases/tag/17.12

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Calendar or reminder app that works well with NVDA?

John Isige
 

Hi all. Any got a recommendation for one or more of these? I'm guessing something that will sit in the system tray or something. I'm not running Outlook, and I can never remember if Thunderbird has a calendar or if it's an add-on, or how useful it is.