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Re: the equalence add on from atguys or the full version that the sell witch is the better one to get
The pause is adjustable, as I recall from a thread
perhaps more than a month ago. I don't recall now how you get into the
settings but you should find something there. I found it roughly
comparable to JAWS. JAWS doesn't pause to any extent between sentences and
I consider that very poor design. People don't read that way when they are
reading to others. Half or a quarter of a second's pause should be the
default but JAWS doesn't 3even have an adjustment for this.
Gene
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Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] the equalence add on from atguys or the full
version that the sell witch is the better one to get
i have the Code factory Eloquence sold by AT Guys.
It is nothing like Eloquence for JAWS. There is a disturbing pause after
sentences.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 7:22
AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] the equalence add on
from atguys or the full version that the sell witch is the better one to
get
Try the demos and see which you want. The
add on has lots of artifacts and I wouldn't get it for myself. If I were
going to by one of the two, it would be the SAPI5 version. But you need
to try the demos to see what you think and how they perform on your
machine. I've heard contradictory things about the SAPI5 version, with
some people saying it isn't responsive enough and others saying its
fine. also, how do you know you will find the artifacts as annoying as I
do in the add on version.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 8:40 AM
Subject: [nvda] the equalence add on from atguys or the full
version that the sell witch is the better one to get
Hi I am thinking about purchasing the equalence add on from
Atguys or
the full sapi 5 version that they sell.
Witch of the two
is the better one to get or are they about the same?
I am not mocking
the company or saying one is better then the other just
weighing my
options before purchasing one or the other is all.
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Re: the equalence add on from atguys or the full version that the sell witch is the better one to get
hi is that the full version or the add on?
What I mean is.
Is that the full version that will work on the sapi five?
On 12/5/2017 2:28 PM, Andy wrote:
i have the Code factory Eloquence
sold by AT Guys. It is nothing like Eloquence for JAWS. There
is a disturbing pause after sentences.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 05,
2017 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] the
equalence add on from atguys or the full version that the sell
witch is the better one to get
Try the demos and see which you
want. The add on has lots of artifacts and I wouldn't get
it for myself. If I were going to by one of the two, it
would be the SAPI5 version. But you need to try the demos
to see what you think and how they perform on your machine.
I've heard contradictory things about the SAPI5 version,
with some people saying it isn't responsive enough and
others saying its fine. also, how do you know you will find
the artifacts as annoying as I do in the add on version.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 8:40 AM
Subject: [nvda] the equalence add on from atguys
or the full version that the sell witch is the better one
to get
Hi I am thinking about purchasing the equalence add on from
Atguys or
the full sapi 5 version that they sell.
Witch of the two is the better one to get or are they about the
same?
I am not mocking the company or saying one is better then the
other just
weighing my options before purchasing one or the other is all.
--
Casey
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Re: OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult than before
There is no sound from an SSD. The machine will still have a system fan for
the CPU and RAM, however, which you may be able to hear.
Antony.
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On Tuesday 05 December 2017 at 22:59:57, tina sohl wrote: How do you know when a pc with and ssd drive is running? If you can't
see it, is there still something you can hear? Both our pcs still have
regular drives so we're curious.
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Re: OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult than before
How do you know when a pc with and ssd drive is running? If you can't see it, is there still something you can hear? Both our pcs still have regular drives so we're curious.
Original message:
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Once you go SSD you don't want to ever go back. You can if needed but
you really don't want to techy or no techy. I might hate the size of
the SSD on my Mac book pro but I love that it has one. My windows
10 custom built Machine flies because of this SSD and the fact it does
have a pretty nice processor. On 12/4/17, enes sarıbaş <enes.saribas@gmail.com> wrote:
well, lets say you opened 5000 documents a year. With a time save of 3
seconds, you save about 15000 seconds a year, which is alot. And believe
me, it is much more than that. I have probably saved hours of my life
with my ssd. Some of these things, like an ssd can only be experienced,
not described. The benchmarks only hint at the performance improvement.
So my suggestion gene, is for you to someday try using a system with an
ssd for just 5 minutes, and I garantee you you will never want to go
back to a normal harddrive. On 12/4/2017 9:41 AM, Gene wrote:
I should have said, let's say it takes one second using an SSD drive.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
*Sent:* Monday, December 04, 2017 12:23 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult
than before
Let's say it takes four seconds to open Microsoft Word using a
mechanical drive. let's say it takes one second using a mechanical
drive. How have I saved any amount of time that means anything? If I
open word and load a document and I spend four seconds to open the
program and four seconds in actual loading time after I find the
document and press enter in the open dialog, then I spend twenty
minutes working with the document or even ten minutes, how is eight
seconds a meaningful amount of time? I can leave one or two programs
opened, if I wish, if I use them a lot.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Lenron <mailto:lenron93@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Monday, December 04, 2017 12:05 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult
than before
Agreed even when doing simple things an ssd is faster. This is just
facts.
On 12/3/17, enes sarıbaş <enes.saribas@gmail.com
<mailto:enes.saribas@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi,
I respectfully disagree. The speed difference from an ssd is so massive
that, even with very simplistic daily tasks, getting an ssd can be a
massive time saver. I agree that anyone who can aford it should get an ssd.
On 12/3/2017 5:48 PM, Gene wrote:
At some point, perhaps as early as Windows 7, Windows won't even let
you defragment SSD drives, as I recall.
On another subject related to SSD drives, I consider sweeping
statements such as, these days, everyone should have SSD drives to be
far too prescriptive and overgeneral. If you do things where speed
matters, copying lots of large files, converting lots of large files,
doing a lot of recording of long works and exporting the recording to
a compressed format such as MP3, and other uses I haven't though of
while at the moment, then it would make sense. but if you mainly do
things like word processing, web browsing, and other typical uses, I
don't consider it important. there are some people who just want
everything to be very fast, they don't want programs to take one or
two seconds to open, they want a program to open almost instantly. If
they want to spend the money for emotional satisfaction and
indulgence, fine, but not everyone wants or needs hotrods, whetgher in
computers, cars, or anywhere else.
There may be another time when having an SSD drive might be important,
others may wish to comment. If you have a laptop, and are going to
use it under conditions where it will be jostled and jolted somewhat
severely or severely while in use, such as driving over rather rough
or very rough roads, then I would think an SSD would be a good idea
or important.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Antony Stone <mailto:antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it>
*Sent:* Sunday, December 03, 2017 4:42 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult
than before
I would be very interested if you could post some links to the
information
about SSDs becoming unwriteable.
Regarding defragmenting an SSD - there is absolutely no point.
The whole purpose of defragmenting a traditional spinning hard disk
was to get
all the parts of a single file together, instead of being spread
(fragmented)
across the drive, which happens when small files are deleted and then
larger
ones are written into the gaps afterwards. Having the entire file
together in
one place is much more efficient for reading it later than having it
spread
around the disk (because it takes time for the mechanical heads to go
and find
all the different parts).
With an SSD, accessing one part is just as efficient as any other -
nothing
needs to move to get to the next part, so fragmented files are no less
efficient
to read than complete ones.
Antony.
On Sunday 03 December 2017 at 11:35:19, The Gamages wrote:
Hello,
Regarding SSDs, as I understand it, there is a slight issue with these in
that some memory can become un writable, it can still be read, but nothing
further can be writtten into it.
I realise that this can take a long time to happen and, if the drive is a
large capacity, it may never be an issue.
I am only raising this point because I don’t fully understand the
consequences of this.
I was told by a computer engineer that it is not a good idea to de fragment
a solid state drive for this reason, it can make some memory un writable if
it is done regularly and is not really necessary on this sort of
drive.
Comments please, even if you shoot me down in flames,[smile]..
Best Regards, Jim.
From: Tyler Wood
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 6:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult
than
before
Keep in mind AMD has just released their ryzen mobile processors, so that
should be interesting. Similar to Intel, it will be Ryzen 3 =
intel i3,
ryzen 5 = intel i5, ryzen 7 = intel i7.
In these modern days, hard drives truly limit the speed of a computer. If
you can afford it, even if it takes a little longer to save up,
go for
something with a solid state drive. You’ll never go back again.
Even a
cheap windows tablet with a 64 gb ssd is going to beat the socks
off of
that huge i5 with a 1 tb spinning hard drives in booting up, general
snappyness around windows. Web browsing not so much but even so the solid
state drive is what makes or breaks a computer and is why you can
get
by
with a core i3 or equal from AMD.
Sean has a good point about soundcards these days, too. And even
with
headphones on it can still be painful with speech – so try and play
with
them in the store using narrator.
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Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA
Find the "releases link" in the page.
and open it to find the download links.
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On 12/6/17, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote: Hi Group,
When I visit the page for the Mozilla Scripts/add-on, I cannot find a
download link any where. What am I missing?
On 12/5/2017 2:18 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!
I don't know why this addon is not in the NVDA repository...
The address to get it is:
https://github.com/javidominguez/mozillascripts
Rui
Às 16:19 de 05/12/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:
Is there a reason this ad on is not on the official NVDA Adams page?
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 5, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com
<mailto:rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>> wrote:
Hello!
Here is the text of documentation.
If you have more douts, please say!
Mozilla Scripts
add-on that provides NVDA scripts for Mozilla
Firefox
• NVDA+A (desktop) or NVDA+Control+A (laptop) Reads the page
address. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+End (desktop) or NVDA+Shift+End (laptop) Reads the status
bar. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+F8 Shows a list of opened tabs. If pressed twice quickly,
shows buttons of tool bar.
• NVDA+Control+N Reads the last notification and it takes the system
focus to it if it is possible. By pressing two times quickly shows
the history of notifications.
• NVDA+F6 Brings the focus to the document.
Thunderbird
• In a message window:
◦ Control+Shift+(1-4) Reads the sender and recipients of the
message. If pressed twice quickly, opens the options menu.
◦ Control+Shift+5 Reads the subject of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+6 Reads date of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+A Brings the focus to the list of attachments, if
any. (These scripts are also available in the list of messages if
you activate the preview pane.)
• In the bar of fast filtering:
◦ Press down Arrow to display more options, enter to check/unchek
the selected option.
• In messages list:
◦ If the preview pane is active, press NVDA+downArrow (desktop) or
NVDA+A (laptop) to read the message without leaving the list.
◦ Control+NVDA+1-9 moves between columns.
◦ NVDA+H Displays a dialog in which you can change the order of the
columns in the message list.
Keystrokes can be customized in Preferences of NVDA > Input gestures
when Firefox or Thunderbird are open.
Rui Fontes
Às 15:49 de 05/12/2017, Sally Kiebdaj escreveu:
Hello Rui,
could you tell me a bit more about what this add-on does?
Thank you,
Sally
On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Sally Kiebdaj
<fiddle.pup@gmail.com <mailto:fiddle.pup@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Gene,
I like the bookmark idea and will probably go with that.
To answer some of your questions:
It seems to be a series of buttons, I think 3 in total. I have
only ever heard the last two which say something along the
lines of "open login page" and "close this message," respectively.
Using brows mode to navigate by buttons doesn't work as these
buttons seem to not be in the main document. It was one of the
first strategies I tried.
For now, I think the bookmark option is the simplest solution.
Thank you!
Sally
On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com
<mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>> wrote:
I don't know anything about the add on someone else sent.
I thought of another solution that might be the easiest.
Go to the login page and make a bookmark. I can tell you
how to use the bookmarks search feature to find it quickly
and conveniently so you don't have to worry about where it
is in the book marks list. If it doesn't have a
distinctive name, give it one when you save it to make it
easy to find with the book marks search feature. Then open
a new page when you want to log in and use the book mark to
go directly to the login page. That may be the best solution.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 05, 2017 9:17 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications
with NVDA
I doubt it. When a dialog opens on a web page, NVDA says
the word "dialog." Have you gotten to the alert message or
heard its entire text? On the new page you open, what is
this option; is it a link? Instead of tabbing until you
get to it on the new page, use the screen-reader search
function and search from the top of the page for the word
"open." See if you can find whatever it is on the page.
If you can't find it, I may find something in firefox that
makes finding the alert easier.
Gene
----- original Message -----
*From:* Sally Kiebdaj <mailto:fiddle.pup@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 05, 2017 8:38 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications
with NVDA
It calls itself an alert and I do get to it eventually by
tabbing. Do you still think it is a dialogue?
Thanks!
Sally
On 12/1/2017 9:13 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:
This is probably a web dialog. Not a notification. If you
install the last release candidate RC 3 of NVDA, then you
can find web dialogs by pressing o.
Best
Adriani
Von meinem iPhone gesendet
Am 01.12.2017 um 15:00 schrieb Sally Kiebdaj
<fiddle.pup@gmail.com <mailto:fiddle.pup@gmail.com>>:
Is there a hotkey for the alerts about logging into a
wifi network? I am currently in a building where the wifi
needs a sign in after 10 minutes of inactivity and I
can't figure out how to get to that sign in page quickly
and easily. For now, I am opening a new window in firefox
and tabbing around until I find the "open login page"
option.
There must be a better way to do this.....
Thanks!
Sally
On 11/30/2017 11:29 AM, Gene wrote:
Do you mean stop redirection notices? Alt a is announced
as the allow command at the end of the announcement. If
you want to turn off the notification completely, I'll
write instructions in another message.
To tell Firefox not to offer to remember passwords, do
the following.
New main steps start on new lines:
Alt t then o to open options.
After waiting a moment, tab once. You are now in a list
of categories.
Start down arrowing until you get to security.
If down arrowing stops moving you before you get there,
up arrow once then continue down arrowing.
Once you get to security, start tabbing until you get to
a checkbox that says something like remember logins.
Uncheck it with the space bar. You won't be asked any
longer.
There is no ok button in this dialog-like structure.
Settings take immediate effect. This is a web page in
the browser and since you are on a web page that mimics
a dialog, do whatever you want to do that you would do
while on a web page after you change the setting. That
is, go to another page by using a book mark, close the
browser, etc.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mary Otten <mailto:motten53@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:59 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications
with NVDA
I am using the extended service release of Firefox on
windows 10 machine with the stable release of NVDA.
Sometimes Firefox will put up notices, such as when it
offers to remember passwords or when it informs you that
has blocked a redirection from the site. How can I
access these in order to either tell it I don’t want it
to save a password or that I do wanted to allow a
redirection?
Mary
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Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA
Hi Group,
When I visit the page for the Mozilla Scripts/add-on, I cannot
find a download link any where. What am I missing?
On 12/5/2017 2:18 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!
I don't know why this addon is not in the NVDA repository...
The address to get it is:
https://github.com/javidominguez/mozillascripts
Rui
Às 16:19 de 05/12/2017, Mary Otten
escreveu:
Is there a reason this ad on is not on the official NVDA
Adams page?
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
Hello!
Here is the text of documentation.
If you have more douts, please say!
Mozilla Scripts
add-on that provides NVDA scripts for Mozilla
Firefox
• NVDA+A (desktop) or NVDA+Control+A (laptop) Reads the
page address. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to
clipboard.
• NVDA+End (desktop) or NVDA+Shift+End (laptop) Reads
the status bar. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to
clipboard.
• NVDA+F8 Shows a list of opened tabs. If pressed twice
quickly, shows buttons of tool bar.
• NVDA+Control+N Reads the last notification and it
takes the system focus to it if it is possible. By
pressing two times quickly shows the history of
notifications.
• NVDA+F6 Brings the focus to the document.
Thunderbird
• In a message window:
◦ Control+Shift+(1-4) Reads the sender and recipients of
the message. If pressed twice quickly, opens the options
menu.
◦ Control+Shift+5 Reads the subject of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+6 Reads date of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+A Brings the focus to the list of
attachments, if any. (These scripts are also available
in the list of messages if you activate the preview
pane.)
• In the bar of fast filtering:
◦ Press down Arrow to display more options, enter to
check/unchek the selected option.
• In messages list:
◦ If the preview pane is active, press NVDA+downArrow
(desktop) or NVDA+A (laptop) to read the message without
leaving the list.
◦ Control+NVDA+1-9 moves between columns.
◦ NVDA+H Displays a dialog in which you can change the
order of the columns in the message list.
Keystrokes can be customized in Preferences of NVDA >
Input gestures when Firefox or Thunderbird are open.
Rui Fontes
Às 15:49 de 05/12/2017, Sally
Kiebdaj escreveu:
Hello Rui,
could you tell me a bit more about what this
add-on does?
Thank you,
Sally
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Re: the equalence add on from atguys or the full version that the sell witch is the better one to get
i have the Code factory Eloquence sold by AT Guys.
It is nothing like Eloquence for JAWS. There is a disturbing pause after
sentences.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 7:22
AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] the equalence add on
from atguys or the full version that the sell witch is the better one to
get
Try the demos and see which you want. The
add on has lots of artifacts and I wouldn't get it for myself. If I were
going to by one of the two, it would be the SAPI5 version. But you need
to try the demos to see what you think and how they perform on your
machine. I've heard contradictory things about the SAPI5 version, with
some people saying it isn't responsive enough and others saying its
fine. also, how do you know you will find the artifacts as annoying as I
do in the add on version.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 8:40 AM
Subject: [nvda] the equalence add on from atguys or the full
version that the sell witch is the better one to get
Hi I am thinking about purchasing the equalence add on from
Atguys or
the full sapi 5 version that they sell.
Witch of the two
is the better one to get or are they about the same?
I am not mocking
the company or saying one is better then the other just
weighing my
options before purchasing one or the other is all.
--
Casey
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Does anyone know if there is a way to recover old podcasts that are no longer online through a source like the Wayback Machine?
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efficient reading of messages in Outlook 2016 with NVDA
I have both JAWS and NVDA on this machine. I am really liking the simplicity of NVDA, but I do have a question about efficiently reading email. There has been a discussion on another list about how you can configure either Window Eyes or JAWS to automatically read the next message in outlook. The upshot seems to be that if you have outlook configured to automatically open the next or previous message, depending on how your messages are sorted, that once you have a message open and hit control d for delete, the next message will automatically open and the reading of the message text will commence. This sounds like about the most efficient way to get through lots of mail--that and being able to get rid of a whole thread if it doesn't interest you--of course. Can this be done with NVDA? I didn't see an add on that looked like it would do this. Any possibility for that?
Mary
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Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Is there a reason this ad on is not on the official NVDA
Adams page?
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
Hello!
Here is the text of documentation.
If you have more douts, please say!
Mozilla Scripts
add-on that provides NVDA scripts for Mozilla
Firefox
• NVDA+A (desktop) or NVDA+Control+A (laptop) Reads the
page address. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to
clipboard.
• NVDA+End (desktop) or NVDA+Shift+End (laptop) Reads the
status bar. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to
clipboard.
• NVDA+F8 Shows a list of opened tabs. If pressed twice
quickly, shows buttons of tool bar.
• NVDA+Control+N Reads the last notification and it takes
the system focus to it if it is possible. By pressing two
times quickly shows the history of notifications.
• NVDA+F6 Brings the focus to the document.
Thunderbird
• In a message window:
◦ Control+Shift+(1-4) Reads the sender and recipients of
the message. If pressed twice quickly, opens the options
menu.
◦ Control+Shift+5 Reads the subject of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+6 Reads date of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+A Brings the focus to the list of
attachments, if any. (These scripts are also available in
the list of messages if you activate the preview pane.)
• In the bar of fast filtering:
◦ Press down Arrow to display more options, enter to
check/unchek the selected option.
• In messages list:
◦ If the preview pane is active, press NVDA+downArrow
(desktop) or NVDA+A (laptop) to read the message without
leaving the list.
◦ Control+NVDA+1-9 moves between columns.
◦ NVDA+H Displays a dialog in which you can change the
order of the columns in the message list.
Keystrokes can be customized in Preferences of NVDA >
Input gestures when Firefox or Thunderbird are open.
Rui Fontes
Às 15:49 de 05/12/2017, Sally
Kiebdaj escreveu:
Hello Rui,
could you tell me a bit more about what this add-on
does?
Thank you,
Sally
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Power Point presentation access
Afternoon All,
In the past, I have had make a good number of Power Point presentations. I could edit them with a screen reader, but I could not have any of them speak the presentation as I used it. I then found a small free app called Power Talk. It would speak each slide as it was presented. It would even read alt tags with descriptions of graphics.
It started as a project on Source forge. I can still find it, but it will not work with Power Point 365. It is not clear if it is the program or Windows 10 that are the culprit. Does anyone on the list know of a similar app?
Thanks for ideas,
Rick
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Evening guys
I am Marisane from SA.
I recently posted to you about nvda 2017.3 unresponsiveness, but none
of you came to my rescue.
Nvda goes unresponsive everytime I run more than one applications.
It also goes unresponsive when I am working on he internet.
I use nvda 2017.3 and win10.
My win10 is : Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.726.
On other occasions, I use jaws16 but it does not go unresponsive when
I run multiple applications or am working on the internet.
What is wrong with nvda? Why so unresponsive in win10?
May I also understand about win10 fall creators? What is that?
Sorry for being without this knowledge about win10.
I am, of course, not technical.
Please help.
Kind regards
Marisane
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Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA
Is there a reason this ad on is not on the official NVDA Adams page?
Mary
On Dec 5, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Rui Fontes < rui.fontes@...> wrote:
Hello!
Here is the text of documentation.
If you have more douts, please say!
Mozilla Scripts
add-on that provides NVDA scripts for Mozilla
Firefox
• NVDA+A (desktop) or NVDA+Control+A (laptop) Reads the page
address. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+End (desktop) or NVDA+Shift+End (laptop) Reads the status
bar. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+F8 Shows a list of opened tabs. If pressed twice quickly,
shows buttons of tool bar.
• NVDA+Control+N Reads the last notification and it takes the
system focus to it if it is possible. By pressing two times
quickly shows the history of notifications.
• NVDA+F6 Brings the focus to the document.
Thunderbird
• In a message window:
◦ Control+Shift+(1-4) Reads the sender and recipients of the
message. If pressed twice quickly, opens the options menu.
◦ Control+Shift+5 Reads the subject of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+6 Reads date of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+A Brings the focus to the list of attachments, if
any. (These scripts are also available in the list of messages if
you activate the preview pane.)
• In the bar of fast filtering:
◦ Press down Arrow to display more options, enter to check/unchek
the selected option.
• In messages list:
◦ If the preview pane is active, press NVDA+downArrow (desktop) or
NVDA+A (laptop) to read the message without leaving the list.
◦ Control+NVDA+1-9 moves between columns.
◦ NVDA+H Displays a dialog in which you can change the order of
the columns in the message list.
Keystrokes can be customized in Preferences of NVDA > Input
gestures when Firefox or Thunderbird are open.
Rui Fontes
Às 15:49 de 05/12/2017, Sally Kiebdaj
escreveu:
Hello Rui,
could you tell me a bit more about what this add-on does?
Thank you,
Sally
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filling out forms with adobe reader and nvda
Hello all,
I was wondering if there is a way to fill out forms in adobe reader. These forms don't actually have any clear indications of checkboxes or anything like that that. This form just has ___ where you are supposed to put your information.
Any help would be wonderful
Brandon
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Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA
I've seen messages like that and they appear in a
notification area. Sometimes I can find them by moving to the address bar
and then tabbing and shift tabbing a few times from the address bar. I
don't remember now which I did to find them so I would try both if I needed
to. As you say, they aren't a part of the web page. Perhaps someone
knows a command to move to the notification area. There is one in
Chrome. Working with the buttons often isn't easy. But if you ever
have to work with such a message, you can try the address bar idea. But
the book mark idea would be much more convenient in this case.
Gene
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with
NVDA
Hello Gene,
I like the bookmark idea and will probably go
with that. To answer some of your questions: It seems
to be a series of buttons, I think 3 in total. I have only ever heard the last
two which say something along the lines of "open login page" and "close this
message," respectively. Using brows mode to navigate by buttons
doesn't work as these buttons seem to not be in the main document. It was one of
the first strategies I tried. For now, I think the bookmark option
is the simplest solution. Thank you! Sally
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Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Are these the ones you get, this page has asked to redirect etc, and then it gives hotkeys to allow etc.
Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sally Kiebdaj" <fiddle.pup@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA It calls itself an alert and I do get to it eventually by tabbing. Do
you still think it is a dialogue?
Thanks!
Sally
On 12/1/2017 9:13 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:
This is probably a web dialog. Not a notification. If you install the
last release candidate RC 3 of NVDA, then you can find web dialogs by
pressing o.
Best
Adriani
Von meinem iPhone gesendet
Am 01.12.2017 um 15:00 schrieb Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@gmail.com
<mailto:fiddle.pup@gmail.com>>:
Is there a hotkey for the alerts about logging into a wifi network? I
am currently in a building where the wifi needs a sign in after 10
minutes of inactivity and I can't figure out how to get to that sign
in page quickly and easily. For now, I am opening a new window in
firefox and tabbing around until I find the "open login page" option.
There must be a better way to do this.....
Thanks!
Sally
On 11/30/2017 11:29 AM, Gene wrote:
Do you mean stop redirection notices? Alt a is announced as the
allow command at the end of the announcement. If you want to turn
off the notification completely, I'll write instructions in another
message.
To tell Firefox not to offer to remember passwords, do the following.
New main steps start on new lines:
Alt t then o to open options.
After waiting a moment, tab once. You are now in a list of categories.
Start down arrowing until you get to security.
If down arrowing stops moving you before you get there, up arrow
once then continue down arrowing.
Once you get to security, start tabbing until you get to a checkbox
that says something like remember logins. Uncheck it with the space
bar. You won't be asked any longer.
There is no ok button in this dialog-like structure. Settings take
immediate effect. This is a web page in the browser and since you
are on a web page that mimics a dialog, do whatever you want to do
that you would do while on a web page after you change the setting.
That is, go to another page by using a book mark, close the browser,
etc.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mary Otten <mailto:motten53@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:59 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA
I am using the extended service release of Firefox on windows 10
machine with the stable release of NVDA. Sometimes Firefox will put
up notices, such as when it offers to remember passwords or when it
informs you that has blocked a redirection from the site. How can I
access these in order to either tell it I don’t want it to save a
password or that I do wanted to allow a redirection?
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
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Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA
Hi Group,
Where do you get these scripts/add-ons? I did a search and
couldn't find it anywhere on the web or on the NVDA add-ons page.
On 12/5/2017 11:14 AM, Rui Fontes
wrote:
Hello!
Here is the text of documentation.
If you have more douts, please say!
Mozilla Scripts
add-on that provides NVDA scripts for Mozilla
Firefox
• NVDA+A (desktop) or NVDA+Control+A (laptop) Reads the page
address. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+End (desktop) or NVDA+Shift+End (laptop) Reads the status
bar. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+F8 Shows a list of opened tabs. If pressed twice quickly,
shows buttons of tool bar.
• NVDA+Control+N Reads the last notification and it takes the
system focus to it if it is possible. By pressing two times
quickly shows the history of notifications.
• NVDA+F6 Brings the focus to the document.
Thunderbird
• In a message window:
◦ Control+Shift+(1-4) Reads the sender and recipients of the
message. If pressed twice quickly, opens the options menu.
◦ Control+Shift+5 Reads the subject of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+6 Reads date of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+A Brings the focus to the list of attachments,
if any. (These scripts are also available in the list of
messages if you activate the preview pane.)
• In the bar of fast filtering:
◦ Press down Arrow to display more options, enter to
check/unchek the selected option.
• In messages list:
◦ If the preview pane is active, press NVDA+downArrow (desktop)
or NVDA+A (laptop) to read the message without leaving the list.
◦ Control+NVDA+1-9 moves between columns.
◦ NVDA+H Displays a dialog in which you can change the order of
the columns in the message list.
Keystrokes can be customized in Preferences of NVDA > Input
gestures when Firefox or Thunderbird are open.
Rui Fontes
Às 15:49 de 05/12/2017, Sally Kiebdaj
escreveu:
Hello Rui,
could you tell me a bit more about what this add-on does?
Thank you,
Sally
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They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA
What does this ad on accomplish?
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On 12/5/2017 6:56 AM, Rui Fontes wrote: Try using this addon:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/949x4ly26igk6oh/MozillaScripts-1.4.nvda-addon?dl=1
Rui Fontes
Às 14:38 de 05/12/2017, Sally Kiebdaj escreveu:
It calls itself an alert and I do get to it eventually by tabbing. Do you still think it is a dialogue?
Thanks!
Sally
On 12/1/2017 9:13 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:
This is probably a web dialog. Not a notification. If you install the last release candidate RC 3 of NVDA, then you can find web dialogs by pressing o.
Best
Adriani
Von meinem iPhone gesendet
Am 01.12.2017 um 15:00 schrieb Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@gmail.com <mailto:fiddle.pup@gmail.com>>:
Is there a hotkey for the alerts about logging into a wifi network? I am currently in a building where the wifi needs a sign in after 10 minutes of inactivity and I can't figure out how to get to that sign in page quickly and easily. For now, I am opening a new window in firefox and tabbing around until I find the "open login page" option.
There must be a better way to do this.....
Thanks!
Sally
On 11/30/2017 11:29 AM, Gene wrote:
Do you mean stop redirection notices? Alt a is announced as the allow command at the end of the announcement. If you want to turn off the notification completely, I'll write instructions in another message.
To tell Firefox not to offer to remember passwords, do the following.
New main steps start on new lines:
Alt t then o to open options.
After waiting a moment, tab once. You are now in a list of categories.
Start down arrowing until you get to security.
If down arrowing stops moving you before you get there, up arrow once then continue down arrowing.
Once you get to security, start tabbing until you get to a checkbox that says something like remember logins. Uncheck it with the space bar. You won't be asked any longer.
There is no ok button in this dialog-like structure. Settings take immediate effect. This is a web page in the browser and since you are on a web page that mimics a dialog, do whatever you want to do that you would do while on a web page after you change the setting. That is, go to another page by using a book mark, close the browser, etc.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mary Otten <mailto:motten53@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:59 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA
I am using the extended service release of Firefox on windows 10 machine with the stable release of NVDA. Sometimes Firefox will put up notices, such as when it offers to remember passwords or when it informs you that has blocked a redirection from the site. How can I access these in order to either tell it I don’t want it to save a password or that I do wanted to allow a redirection?
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
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Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA
Hello Rui,
Thank you for the documentation. It sounds like it might help in
this situation and is certainly worth a try.
It also addresses some issues I was having with Thunderbird that I
hadn't bothered to ask about yet.
Pretty handy add-on!
Thanks again,
Sally
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On 12/5/2017 11:14 AM, Rui Fontes
wrote:
Hello!
Here is the text of documentation.
If you have more douts, please say!
Mozilla Scripts
add-on that provides NVDA scripts for Mozilla
Firefox
• NVDA+A (desktop) or NVDA+Control+A (laptop) Reads the page
address. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+End (desktop) or NVDA+Shift+End (laptop) Reads the status
bar. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+F8 Shows a list of opened tabs. If pressed twice quickly,
shows buttons of tool bar.
• NVDA+Control+N Reads the last notification and it takes the
system focus to it if it is possible. By pressing two times
quickly shows the history of notifications.
• NVDA+F6 Brings the focus to the document.
Thunderbird
• In a message window:
◦ Control+Shift+(1-4) Reads the sender and recipients of the
message. If pressed twice quickly, opens the options menu.
◦ Control+Shift+5 Reads the subject of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+6 Reads date of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+A Brings the focus to the list of attachments,
if any. (These scripts are also available in the list of
messages if you activate the preview pane.)
• In the bar of fast filtering:
◦ Press down Arrow to display more options, enter to
check/unchek the selected option.
• In messages list:
◦ If the preview pane is active, press NVDA+downArrow (desktop)
or NVDA+A (laptop) to read the message without leaving the list.
◦ Control+NVDA+1-9 moves between columns.
◦ NVDA+H Displays a dialog in which you can change the order of
the columns in the message list.
Keystrokes can be customized in Preferences of NVDA > Input
gestures when Firefox or Thunderbird are open.
Rui Fontes
Às 15:49 de 05/12/2017, Sally Kiebdaj
escreveu:
Hello Rui,
could you tell me a bit more about what this add-on does?
Thank you,
Sally
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Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA
Hello!
Here is the text of documentation.
If you have more douts, please say!
Mozilla Scripts
add-on that provides NVDA scripts for Mozilla
Firefox
• NVDA+A (desktop) or NVDA+Control+A (laptop) Reads the page
address. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+End (desktop) or NVDA+Shift+End (laptop) Reads the status
bar. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+F8 Shows a list of opened tabs. If pressed twice quickly,
shows buttons of tool bar.
• NVDA+Control+N Reads the last notification and it takes the
system focus to it if it is possible. By pressing two times
quickly shows the history of notifications.
• NVDA+F6 Brings the focus to the document.
Thunderbird
• In a message window:
◦ Control+Shift+(1-4) Reads the sender and recipients of the
message. If pressed twice quickly, opens the options menu.
◦ Control+Shift+5 Reads the subject of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+6 Reads date of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+A Brings the focus to the list of attachments, if
any. (These scripts are also available in the list of messages if
you activate the preview pane.)
• In the bar of fast filtering:
◦ Press down Arrow to display more options, enter to check/unchek
the selected option.
• In messages list:
◦ If the preview pane is active, press NVDA+downArrow (desktop) or
NVDA+A (laptop) to read the message without leaving the list.
◦ Control+NVDA+1-9 moves between columns.
◦ NVDA+H Displays a dialog in which you can change the order of
the columns in the message list.
Keystrokes can be customized in Preferences of NVDA > Input
gestures when Firefox or Thunderbird are open.
Rui Fontes
Às 15:49 de 05/12/2017, Sally Kiebdaj
escreveu:
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Hello Rui,
could you tell me a bit more about what this add-on does?
Thank you,
Sally
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