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Re: Power Point presentation access

ely.r@...
 

Thanks for this. I was in touch with the Microsoft Accessibility Team. They sent suggestions along using Narrator. However, even in the overview of that process, it was stated that Narrator would not work in presentation mode.

I will give this a try,
Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Domingos de Oliveira via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 6:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Power Point presentation access

Hi,

if you change into the presentation Mode with F5, NVDA reads the whole slide. You then have to press Return to turn to the next slide.

HTH

2017-12-06 1:34 GMT+01:00, Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...>:
Rick,



I am able to read presentations including alternative text tags in
Powerpoint with NVDA without problems. No third party program needed.



Pranav


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Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,

Here's another question. The file I downloaded is called MozillaScrips-master.zip. Is this what the addon is suppose to be called.


Regards,

Greg Wocher


On 12/6/2017 9:30 AM, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello,
I downloaded it from:
https://github.com/javidominguez/mozillascripts
I have downloaded it twice with the same results. When I change the file extension to .nvda-addon I get an error message.

Regards,
Greg Wocher


On 12/6/2017 8:03 AM, Gene wrote:
The question says:
Next I tried changing the file extension from .zip to .nvda-addon. When I hit enter on it to install I get an error saying it is missing a file or is in the wrong format.
 
Where was the file downloaded from, the Drop Box account or the web page that was given later? 
 
When something may be corrupted in a download and there is no error message, the first thing that should always be done is to download it again.  Downloads at times aren't correct and there are no error messages.  If the file still can't be run after a second download, maybe others will have more suggestions.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Change the .zip extension to .nvda-addon.


Rui



Às 12:14 de 06/12/2017, Greg Wocher escreveu:

Hello all,

    When I download this all I get is a zip file. When I extract it I am not able to find the add on file. Next I tried changing the file extension from .zip to .nvda-addon. When I hit enter on it to install I get an error saying it is missing a file or is in the wrong format. How can I get this add on installed?


Thanks,

Greg Wocher



On 12/5/2017 2:18 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hello!


I don't know why this addon is not in the NVDA repository...


The address to get it is:

https://github.com/javidominguez/mozillascripts


Rui



Às 16:19 de 05/12/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:
Is there a reason this ad on is not on the official NVDA Adams page?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 5, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Hello!


Here is the text of documentation.


If you have more douts, please say!


Mozilla Scripts
add-on that provides NVDA scripts for Mozilla
Firefox
• NVDA+A (desktop) or NVDA+Control+A (laptop) Reads the page address. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+End (desktop) or NVDA+Shift+End (laptop) Reads the status bar. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+F8 Shows a list of opened tabs. If pressed twice quickly, shows buttons of tool bar.
• NVDA+Control+N Reads the last notification and it takes the system focus to it if it is possible. By pressing two times quickly shows the history of notifications.
• NVDA+F6 Brings the focus to the document.
Thunderbird
• In a message window:
◦ Control+Shift+(1-4) Reads the sender and recipients of the message. If pressed twice quickly, opens the options menu.
◦ Control+Shift+5 Reads the subject of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+6 Reads date of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+A Brings the focus to the list of attachments, if any. (These scripts are also available in the list of messages if you activate the preview pane.)
• In the bar of fast filtering:
◦ Press down Arrow to display more options, enter to check/unchek the selected option.
• In messages list:
◦ If the preview pane is active, press NVDA+downArrow (desktop) or NVDA+A (laptop) to read the message without leaving the list.
◦ Control+NVDA+1-9 moves between columns.
◦ NVDA+H Displays a dialog in which you can change the order of the columns in the message list.
Keystrokes can be customized in Preferences of NVDA > Input gestures when Firefox or Thunderbird are open.


Rui Fontes



Às 15:49 de 05/12/2017, Sally Kiebdaj escreveu:
Hello Rui,

could you tell me a bit more about what this add-on does?

Thank you,
Sally

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...> wrote:
Hello Gene,

I like the bookmark idea and will probably go with that.

To answer some of your questions:

It seems to be a series of buttons, I think 3 in total. I have only ever heard the last two which say something along the lines of "open login page" and "close this message," respectively.

Using brows mode to navigate by buttons doesn't work as these buttons seem to not be in the main document. It was one of the first strategies I tried.

For now, I think the bookmark option is the simplest solution.

Thank you!
Sally

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I don't know anything about the add on someone else sent.  I thought of another solution that might be the easiest.  Go to the login page and make a bookmark.  I can tell you how to use the bookmarks search feature to find it quickly and conveniently so you don't have to worry about where it is in the book marks list.  If it doesn't have a distinctive name, give it one when you save it to make it easy to find with the book marks search feature.  Then open a new page when you want to log in and use the book mark to go directly to the login page.  That may be the best solution.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

I doubt it.  When a dialog opens on a web page, NVDA says the word "dialog."  Have you gotten to the alert message or heard its entire text?  On the new page you open, what is this option; is it a link?  Instead of tabbing until you get to it on the new page, use the screen-reader search function and search from the top of the page for the word "open."  See if you can find whatever it is on the page.  If you can't find it, I may find something in firefox that makes finding the alert easier. 
 
Gene
----- original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

It calls itself an alert and I do get to it eventually by tabbing. Do you still think it is a dialogue?

Thanks!

Sally


On 12/1/2017 9:13 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:
This is probably a web dialog. Not a notification. If you install the last release candidate RC 3 of NVDA, then you can find web dialogs by pressing o.

Best
Adriani



Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 01.12.2017 um 15:00 schrieb Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...>:

Is there a hotkey for the alerts about logging into a wifi network? I am currently in a building where the wifi needs a sign in after 10 minutes of inactivity and I can't figure out how to get to that sign in page quickly and easily. For now, I am opening a new window in firefox and tabbing around until I find the "open login page" option.


There must be a better way to do this.....

Thanks!

Sally


On 11/30/2017 11:29 AM, Gene wrote:
Do you mean stop redirection notices?  Alt a is announced as the allow command at the end of the announcement.  If you want to turn off the notification completely, I'll write instructions in another message. 
 
To tell Firefox not to offer to remember passwords, do the following.
New main steps start on new lines:
Alt t then o to open options. 
After waiting a moment, tab once.  You are now in a list of categories.
Start down arrowing until you get to security.
If down arrowing stops moving you before you get there, up arrow once then continue down arrowing.
Once you get to security, start tabbing until you get to a checkbox that says something like remember logins.  Uncheck it with the space bar.  You won't be asked any longer.
There is no ok button in this dialog-like structure.  Settings take immediate effect.  This is a web page in the browser and since you are on a web page that mimics a dialog, do whatever you want to do that you would do while on a web page after you change the setting.  That is, go to another page by using a book mark, close the browser, etc.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:59 AM
Subject: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

I am using the extended service release of Firefox on windows 10 machine with the stable release of NVDA. Sometimes Firefox will put up notices, such as when it offers to remember passwords or when it informs you that has blocked a redirection from the site. How can I access these in order to either tell it I don’t want it to save a password or that I do wanted to allow a redirection?
Mary


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Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
I downloaded it from:
https://github.com/javidominguez/mozillascripts
I have downloaded it twice with the same results. When I change the file extension to .nvda-addon I get an error message.

Regards,
Greg Wocher


On 12/6/2017 8:03 AM, Gene wrote:
The question says:
Next I tried changing the file extension from .zip to .nvda-addon. When I hit enter on it to install I get an error saying it is missing a file or is in the wrong format.
 
Where was the file downloaded from, the Drop Box account or the web page that was given later? 
 
When something may be corrupted in a download and there is no error message, the first thing that should always be done is to download it again.  Downloads at times aren't correct and there are no error messages.  If the file still can't be run after a second download, maybe others will have more suggestions.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Change the .zip extension to .nvda-addon.


Rui



Às 12:14 de 06/12/2017, Greg Wocher escreveu:

Hello all,

    When I download this all I get is a zip file. When I extract it I am not able to find the add on file. Next I tried changing the file extension from .zip to .nvda-addon. When I hit enter on it to install I get an error saying it is missing a file or is in the wrong format. How can I get this add on installed?


Thanks,

Greg Wocher



On 12/5/2017 2:18 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hello!


I don't know why this addon is not in the NVDA repository...


The address to get it is:

https://github.com/javidominguez/mozillascripts


Rui



Às 16:19 de 05/12/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:
Is there a reason this ad on is not on the official NVDA Adams page?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 5, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Hello!


Here is the text of documentation.


If you have more douts, please say!


Mozilla Scripts
add-on that provides NVDA scripts for Mozilla
Firefox
• NVDA+A (desktop) or NVDA+Control+A (laptop) Reads the page address. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+End (desktop) or NVDA+Shift+End (laptop) Reads the status bar. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+F8 Shows a list of opened tabs. If pressed twice quickly, shows buttons of tool bar.
• NVDA+Control+N Reads the last notification and it takes the system focus to it if it is possible. By pressing two times quickly shows the history of notifications.
• NVDA+F6 Brings the focus to the document.
Thunderbird
• In a message window:
◦ Control+Shift+(1-4) Reads the sender and recipients of the message. If pressed twice quickly, opens the options menu.
◦ Control+Shift+5 Reads the subject of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+6 Reads date of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+A Brings the focus to the list of attachments, if any. (These scripts are also available in the list of messages if you activate the preview pane.)
• In the bar of fast filtering:
◦ Press down Arrow to display more options, enter to check/unchek the selected option.
• In messages list:
◦ If the preview pane is active, press NVDA+downArrow (desktop) or NVDA+A (laptop) to read the message without leaving the list.
◦ Control+NVDA+1-9 moves between columns.
◦ NVDA+H Displays a dialog in which you can change the order of the columns in the message list.
Keystrokes can be customized in Preferences of NVDA > Input gestures when Firefox or Thunderbird are open.


Rui Fontes



Às 15:49 de 05/12/2017, Sally Kiebdaj escreveu:
Hello Rui,

could you tell me a bit more about what this add-on does?

Thank you,
Sally

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...> wrote:
Hello Gene,

I like the bookmark idea and will probably go with that.

To answer some of your questions:

It seems to be a series of buttons, I think 3 in total. I have only ever heard the last two which say something along the lines of "open login page" and "close this message," respectively.

Using brows mode to navigate by buttons doesn't work as these buttons seem to not be in the main document. It was one of the first strategies I tried.

For now, I think the bookmark option is the simplest solution.

Thank you!
Sally

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I don't know anything about the add on someone else sent.  I thought of another solution that might be the easiest.  Go to the login page and make a bookmark.  I can tell you how to use the bookmarks search feature to find it quickly and conveniently so you don't have to worry about where it is in the book marks list.  If it doesn't have a distinctive name, give it one when you save it to make it easy to find with the book marks search feature.  Then open a new page when you want to log in and use the book mark to go directly to the login page.  That may be the best solution.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

I doubt it.  When a dialog opens on a web page, NVDA says the word "dialog."  Have you gotten to the alert message or heard its entire text?  On the new page you open, what is this option; is it a link?  Instead of tabbing until you get to it on the new page, use the screen-reader search function and search from the top of the page for the word "open."  See if you can find whatever it is on the page.  If you can't find it, I may find something in firefox that makes finding the alert easier. 
 
Gene
----- original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

It calls itself an alert and I do get to it eventually by tabbing. Do you still think it is a dialogue?

Thanks!

Sally


On 12/1/2017 9:13 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:
This is probably a web dialog. Not a notification. If you install the last release candidate RC 3 of NVDA, then you can find web dialogs by pressing o.

Best
Adriani



Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 01.12.2017 um 15:00 schrieb Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...>:

Is there a hotkey for the alerts about logging into a wifi network? I am currently in a building where the wifi needs a sign in after 10 minutes of inactivity and I can't figure out how to get to that sign in page quickly and easily. For now, I am opening a new window in firefox and tabbing around until I find the "open login page" option.


There must be a better way to do this.....

Thanks!

Sally


On 11/30/2017 11:29 AM, Gene wrote:
Do you mean stop redirection notices?  Alt a is announced as the allow command at the end of the announcement.  If you want to turn off the notification completely, I'll write instructions in another message. 
 
To tell Firefox not to offer to remember passwords, do the following.
New main steps start on new lines:
Alt t then o to open options. 
After waiting a moment, tab once.  You are now in a list of categories.
Start down arrowing until you get to security.
If down arrowing stops moving you before you get there, up arrow once then continue down arrowing.
Once you get to security, start tabbing until you get to a checkbox that says something like remember logins.  Uncheck it with the space bar.  You won't be asked any longer.
There is no ok button in this dialog-like structure.  Settings take immediate effect.  This is a web page in the browser and since you are on a web page that mimics a dialog, do whatever you want to do that you would do while on a web page after you change the setting.  That is, go to another page by using a book mark, close the browser, etc.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:59 AM
Subject: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

I am using the extended service release of Firefox on windows 10 machine with the stable release of NVDA. Sometimes Firefox will put up notices, such as when it offers to remember passwords or when it informs you that has blocked a redirection from the site. How can I access these in order to either tell it I don’t want it to save a password or that I do wanted to allow a redirection?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone












Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Martin O'Sullivan
 

to save all that searching, just go to the address bar and type in about:preferences#security, this will take you straight to the security page.
if you want to go to the general page, it is about:preferences#general and if you want to go to the applications page, about:preferences#applications.  I think you can understand where this is going, if you want to go anywhere on that page, you type about:# and then the name of the section.  once you have landed there, you can do what you have to do.

hope that this helps.


Re: How does NVDA read text boxes?

Martin O'Sullivan
 


here is one way of doing it.

This works because,once you are in a text box (or picture or other object) you can press TAB to move between them. 

here is what you need to do.
1 Save the document, to keep any changes you want to keep .
2 Add a text box into a document by pressing alt+n, x, enter
3 Press escape once (so you are out of the text itself but the text box is still selected),
4 You can press TAB to move between the objects in the document (this wraps so if you press TAB on the last object in the document it will jump back to the first object). 
5 Remove the text box you just added, by exiting the document without saving changes.

Text boxes are difficult for a screen reader to access.






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On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
I received a  word document that appeared to be blank.  Turns out it is a series of 15 text boxes of information.  How can I read stinkin' text boxes with NVDA???

Thanks






Re: OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult than before

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

My old dell has fans but its not the drive that seems to generate the heat its the processor itself. You can tell as when its working hard on things but not using the disc much the fan starts to speed up and the bottom gets hot. That is a Dell inspiron running xp, though it is supposed to be able to run 7, but have not bothered.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 4:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult than before


Hi guys!
My HP Stream 11 has a SSD drive, and no fan. I have nothing to hear what so ever. It makes it interesting, because sometimes, it locks, and I can’t tell if it is still on or has it totally turned off LOL! Sometimes, it comes down to holding down the power button a few seconds and then I know I have shut it down. Then, I just tap the power button, and it turns on. Now, when you start the computer, you can turn on Narrator quickly, and it will take you through the start up before JAWS or NVDA starts talking LOL!
It has been an adventure, but this baby only weighs 2 and a half pounds, and has a 128 Gig SSD Drive, and four Gigs of ram. This thing never gets hot, so it does not need a fan LOL!
Take care, guys!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 7:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult than before

If you have a hybrid laptop, you do not have any sound!

Às 22:29 de 05/12/2017, Antony Stone escreveu:
There is no sound from an SSD. The machine will still have a system fan for
the CPU and RAM, however, which you may be able to hear.

Antony.

On Tuesday 05 December 2017 at 22:59:57, tina sohl wrote:

How do you know when a pc with and ssd drive is running? If you can't
see it, is there still something you can hear? Both our pcs still have
regular drives so we're curious.


Rui


Re: OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult than before

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes I notice this on my machine with an ssd, a desktop though.
Tell me I assume this machine has no numeric keypad then. I'd rather like one as my older fingers are not as nimble aas they used to be.
Also did you have to deactivate the function keys from being special laptop control keys?
If one can get that in the same way but with 8 gigs of ram it would probably do me, but the lack of a back up drive might be an issue.the one in this desktop is 250 ssd, and I also have a 1tb one for back ups and non urgent files. Its amazing how you notice the speed difference when getting stuff from the old mechanical drive compared to the ssd.
I've had this since 2015, and touch wood nothing has gone wrong. However I am keeping windows 7 for ease of use reasons.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 4:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult than before


Hi guys!
My HP Stream 11 has a SSD drive, and no fan. I have nothing to hear what so ever. It makes it interesting, because sometimes, it locks, and I can’t tell if it is still on or has it totally turned off LOL! Sometimes, it comes down to holding down the power button a few seconds and then I know I have shut it down. Then, I just tap the power button, and it turns on. Now, when you start the computer, you can turn on Narrator quickly, and it will take you through the start up before JAWS or NVDA starts talking LOL!
It has been an adventure, but this baby only weighs 2 and a half pounds, and has a 128 Gig SSD Drive, and four Gigs of ram. This thing never gets hot, so it does not need a fan LOL!
Take care, guys!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 7:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult than before

If you have a hybrid laptop, you do not have any sound!

Às 22:29 de 05/12/2017, Antony Stone escreveu:
There is no sound from an SSD. The machine will still have a system fan for
the CPU and RAM, however, which you may be able to hear.

Antony.

On Tuesday 05 December 2017 at 22:59:57, tina sohl wrote:

How do you know when a pc with and ssd drive is running? If you can't
see it, is there still something you can hear? Both our pcs still have
regular drives so we're curious.


Rui


Re: Bringing the review cursor to the focused cursor?

Gene
 

I don't know if NVDA ever specifically supported Udora, but it works with programs that follow standard Windows conventions.  It might not work because there is something in Udora's code that causes the review mode not to be aware of the cursor or the object. 
 
What are you doing that you want to move back to the current position?  There may be other ways to do what you want. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Bringing the review cursor to the focused cursor?

thanks.  It works in Word but not in Eudora. Is NVDA no longer
supporting Eudora???


At 07:13 AM 12/6/2017, you wrote:
>The command is NVDA key plus numpad minus, the top right key on the numpad.
>
>Gene
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:annakb@...>Ann Byrne
>Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:59 AM
>To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
>Subject: [nvda] Bringing the review cursor to the focused cursor?
>
>After I wander around the screen in review mode, how do I return the
>the review cursor to where the  focus is on the screen?
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>
>




How does NVDA read text boxes?

Ann Byrne
 

I received a word document that appeared to be blank. Turns out it is a series of 15 text boxes of information. How can I read stinkin' text boxes with NVDA???

Thanks


Re: Bringing the review cursor to the focused cursor?

Ann Byrne
 

thanks. It works in Word but not in Eudora. Is NVDA no longer supporting Eudora???

At 07:13 AM 12/6/2017, you wrote:
The command is NVDA key plus numpad minus, the top right key on the numpad.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:annakb@...>Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:59 AM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Bringing the review cursor to the focused cursor?

After I wander around the screen in review mode, how do I return the
the review cursor to where the focus is on the screen?

Thanks.




Re: Bringing the review cursor to the focused cursor?

Gene
 

The command is NVDA key plus numpad minus, the top right key on the numpad.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:59 AM
Subject: [nvda] Bringing the review cursor to the focused cursor?

After I wander around the screen in review mode, how do I return the
the review cursor to where the  focus is on the screen?

Thanks.




Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Gene
 

The question says:
Next I tried changing the file extension from .zip to .nvda-addon. When I hit enter on it to install I get an error saying it is missing a file or is in the wrong format.
 
Where was the file downloaded from, the Drop Box account or the web page that was given later? 
 
When something may be corrupted in a download and there is no error message, the first thing that should always be done is to download it again.  Downloads at times aren't correct and there are no error messages.  If the file still can't be run after a second download, maybe others will have more suggestions.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Change the .zip extension to .nvda-addon.


Rui



Às 12:14 de 06/12/2017, Greg Wocher escreveu:

Hello all,

    When I download this all I get is a zip file. When I extract it I am not able to find the add on file. Next I tried changing the file extension from .zip to .nvda-addon. When I hit enter on it to install I get an error saying it is missing a file or is in the wrong format. How can I get this add on installed?


Thanks,

Greg Wocher



On 12/5/2017 2:18 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hello!


I don't know why this addon is not in the NVDA repository...


The address to get it is:

https://github.com/javidominguez/mozillascripts


Rui



Às 16:19 de 05/12/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:
Is there a reason this ad on is not on the official NVDA Adams page?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 5, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Hello!


Here is the text of documentation.


If you have more douts, please say!


Mozilla Scripts
add-on that provides NVDA scripts for Mozilla
Firefox
• NVDA+A (desktop) or NVDA+Control+A (laptop) Reads the page address. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+End (desktop) or NVDA+Shift+End (laptop) Reads the status bar. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+F8 Shows a list of opened tabs. If pressed twice quickly, shows buttons of tool bar.
• NVDA+Control+N Reads the last notification and it takes the system focus to it if it is possible. By pressing two times quickly shows the history of notifications.
• NVDA+F6 Brings the focus to the document.
Thunderbird
• In a message window:
◦ Control+Shift+(1-4) Reads the sender and recipients of the message. If pressed twice quickly, opens the options menu.
◦ Control+Shift+5 Reads the subject of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+6 Reads date of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+A Brings the focus to the list of attachments, if any. (These scripts are also available in the list of messages if you activate the preview pane.)
• In the bar of fast filtering:
◦ Press down Arrow to display more options, enter to check/unchek the selected option.
• In messages list:
◦ If the preview pane is active, press NVDA+downArrow (desktop) or NVDA+A (laptop) to read the message without leaving the list.
◦ Control+NVDA+1-9 moves between columns.
◦ NVDA+H Displays a dialog in which you can change the order of the columns in the message list.
Keystrokes can be customized in Preferences of NVDA > Input gestures when Firefox or Thunderbird are open.


Rui Fontes



Às 15:49 de 05/12/2017, Sally Kiebdaj escreveu:
Hello Rui,

could you tell me a bit more about what this add-on does?

Thank you,
Sally

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...> wrote:
Hello Gene,

I like the bookmark idea and will probably go with that.

To answer some of your questions:

It seems to be a series of buttons, I think 3 in total. I have only ever heard the last two which say something along the lines of "open login page" and "close this message," respectively.

Using brows mode to navigate by buttons doesn't work as these buttons seem to not be in the main document. It was one of the first strategies I tried.

For now, I think the bookmark option is the simplest solution.

Thank you!
Sally

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I don't know anything about the add on someone else sent.  I thought of another solution that might be the easiest.  Go to the login page and make a bookmark.  I can tell you how to use the bookmarks search feature to find it quickly and conveniently so you don't have to worry about where it is in the book marks list.  If it doesn't have a distinctive name, give it one when you save it to make it easy to find with the book marks search feature.  Then open a new page when you want to log in and use the book mark to go directly to the login page.  That may be the best solution.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

I doubt it.  When a dialog opens on a web page, NVDA says the word "dialog."  Have you gotten to the alert message or heard its entire text?  On the new page you open, what is this option; is it a link?  Instead of tabbing until you get to it on the new page, use the screen-reader search function and search from the top of the page for the word "open."  See if you can find whatever it is on the page.  If you can't find it, I may find something in firefox that makes finding the alert easier. 
 
Gene
----- original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

It calls itself an alert and I do get to it eventually by tabbing. Do you still think it is a dialogue?

Thanks!

Sally


On 12/1/2017 9:13 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:
This is probably a web dialog. Not a notification. If you install the last release candidate RC 3 of NVDA, then you can find web dialogs by pressing o.

Best
Adriani



Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 01.12.2017 um 15:00 schrieb Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...>:

Is there a hotkey for the alerts about logging into a wifi network? I am currently in a building where the wifi needs a sign in after 10 minutes of inactivity and I can't figure out how to get to that sign in page quickly and easily. For now, I am opening a new window in firefox and tabbing around until I find the "open login page" option.


There must be a better way to do this.....

Thanks!

Sally


On 11/30/2017 11:29 AM, Gene wrote:
Do you mean stop redirection notices?  Alt a is announced as the allow command at the end of the announcement.  If you want to turn off the notification completely, I'll write instructions in another message. 
 
To tell Firefox not to offer to remember passwords, do the following.
New main steps start on new lines:
Alt t then o to open options. 
After waiting a moment, tab once.  You are now in a list of categories.
Start down arrowing until you get to security.
If down arrowing stops moving you before you get there, up arrow once then continue down arrowing.
Once you get to security, start tabbing until you get to a checkbox that says something like remember logins.  Uncheck it with the space bar.  You won't be asked any longer.
There is no ok button in this dialog-like structure.  Settings take immediate effect.  This is a web page in the browser and since you are on a web page that mimics a dialog, do whatever you want to do that you would do while on a web page after you change the setting.  That is, go to another page by using a book mark, close the browser, etc.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:59 AM
Subject: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

I am using the extended service release of Firefox on windows 10 machine with the stable release of NVDA. Sometimes Firefox will put up notices, such as when it offers to remember passwords or when it informs you that has blocked a redirection from the site. How can I access these in order to either tell it I don’t want it to save a password or that I do wanted to allow a redirection?
Mary


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Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Gerardo Corripio
 

It should be; it's amazing! I too use it, so hopefull it'll be added sooner than later.


El 05/12/2017 a las 10:19 a.m., Mary Otten escribió:
Is there a reason this ad on is not on the official NVDA Adams page?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 5, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Hello!


Here is the text of documentation.


If you have more douts, please say!


Mozilla Scripts
add-on that provides NVDA scripts for Mozilla
Firefox
• NVDA+A (desktop) or NVDA+Control+A (laptop) Reads the page address. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+End (desktop) or NVDA+Shift+End (laptop) Reads the status bar. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+F8 Shows a list of opened tabs. If pressed twice quickly, shows buttons of tool bar.
• NVDA+Control+N Reads the last notification and it takes the system focus to it if it is possible. By pressing two times quickly shows the history of notifications.
• NVDA+F6 Brings the focus to the document.
Thunderbird
• In a message window:
◦ Control+Shift+(1-4) Reads the sender and recipients of the message. If pressed twice quickly, opens the options menu.
◦ Control+Shift+5 Reads the subject of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+6 Reads date of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+A Brings the focus to the list of attachments, if any. (These scripts are also available in the list of messages if you activate the preview pane.)
• In the bar of fast filtering:
◦ Press down Arrow to display more options, enter to check/unchek the selected option.
• In messages list:
◦ If the preview pane is active, press NVDA+downArrow (desktop) or NVDA+A (laptop) to read the message without leaving the list.
◦ Control+NVDA+1-9 moves between columns.
◦ NVDA+H Displays a dialog in which you can change the order of the columns in the message list.
Keystrokes can be customized in Preferences of NVDA > Input gestures when Firefox or Thunderbird are open.


Rui Fontes



Às 15:49 de 05/12/2017, Sally Kiebdaj escreveu:
Hello Rui,

could you tell me a bit more about what this add-on does?

Thank you,
Sally

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...> wrote:
Hello Gene,

I like the bookmark idea and will probably go with that.

To answer some of your questions:

It seems to be a series of buttons, I think 3 in total. I have only ever heard the last two which say something along the lines of "open login page" and "close this message," respectively.

Using brows mode to navigate by buttons doesn't work as these buttons seem to not be in the main document. It was one of the first strategies I tried.

For now, I think the bookmark option is the simplest solution.

Thank you!
Sally

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I don't know anything about the add on someone else sent.  I thought of another solution that might be the easiest.  Go to the login page and make a bookmark.  I can tell you how to use the bookmarks search feature to find it quickly and conveniently so you don't have to worry about where it is in the book marks list.  If it doesn't have a distinctive name, give it one when you save it to make it easy to find with the book marks search feature.  Then open a new page when you want to log in and use the book mark to go directly to the login page.  That may be the best solution.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

I doubt it.  When a dialog opens on a web page, NVDA says the word "dialog."  Have you gotten to the alert message or heard its entire text?  On the new page you open, what is this option; is it a link?  Instead of tabbing until you get to it on the new page, use the screen-reader search function and search from the top of the page for the word "open."  See if you can find whatever it is on the page.  If you can't find it, I may find something in firefox that makes finding the alert easier. 
 
Gene
----- original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

It calls itself an alert and I do get to it eventually by tabbing. Do you still think it is a dialogue?

Thanks!

Sally


On 12/1/2017 9:13 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:
This is probably a web dialog. Not a notification. If you install the last release candidate RC 3 of NVDA, then you can find web dialogs by pressing o.

Best
Adriani



Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 01.12.2017 um 15:00 schrieb Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...>:

Is there a hotkey for the alerts about logging into a wifi network? I am currently in a building where the wifi needs a sign in after 10 minutes of inactivity and I can't figure out how to get to that sign in page quickly and easily. For now, I am opening a new window in firefox and tabbing around until I find the "open login page" option.


There must be a better way to do this.....

Thanks!

Sally


On 11/30/2017 11:29 AM, Gene wrote:
Do you mean stop redirection notices?  Alt a is announced as the allow command at the end of the announcement.  If you want to turn off the notification completely, I'll write instructions in another message. 
 
To tell Firefox not to offer to remember passwords, do the following.
New main steps start on new lines:
Alt t then o to open options. 
After waiting a moment, tab once.  You are now in a list of categories.
Start down arrowing until you get to security.
If down arrowing stops moving you before you get there, up arrow once then continue down arrowing.
Once you get to security, start tabbing until you get to a checkbox that says something like remember logins.  Uncheck it with the space bar.  You won't be asked any longer.
There is no ok button in this dialog-like structure.  Settings take immediate effect.  This is a web page in the browser and since you are on a web page that mimics a dialog, do whatever you want to do that you would do while on a web page after you change the setting.  That is, go to another page by using a book mark, close the browser, etc.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:59 AM
Subject: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

I am using the extended service release of Firefox on windows 10 machine with the stable release of NVDA. Sometimes Firefox will put up notices, such as when it offers to remember passwords or when it informs you that has blocked a redirection from the site. How can I access these in order to either tell it I don’t want it to save a password or that I do wanted to allow a redirection?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone








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Gera
Enviado desde Thunderbird


Bringing the review cursor to the focused cursor?

Ann Byrne
 

After I wander around the screen in review mode, how do I return the the review cursor to where the focus is on the screen?

Thanks.


Re: filling out forms with adobe reader and nvda

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Really the actual document has to have been made interactive in the first place for this to work. The supplier has probably just sent a pdf for sighted people to print out and fill in.
You can either ask them to rectify this either by an on line html form or supply you with a document you can edit.
I've seen this so many times from companies who really should know better.
I guess you might be able to extract the text and then reformat it into a text document, but why should you have to do their work for them?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "brandon" <breedto@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 6:36 PM
Subject: [nvda] filling out forms with adobe reader and nvda


Hello all,


I was wondering if there is a way to fill out forms in adobe reader. These forms don't actually have any clear indications of checkboxes or anything like that that. This form just has ___ where you are supposed to put your information.

Any help would be wonderful

Brandon



Re: nvda's unresponsiveness

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I gave a very full reply on this list asking for more details about the system in use and somebody else gave some advice too. If you cannot see the messages or did not get them, then look at the online archive for the list, they are bound to be there. i don't want to clutter the list up with repeats.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Marisane Moruthanyana" <marisanem@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 7:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] nvda's unresponsiveness


Evening guys

I am Marisane from SA.

I recently posted to you about nvda 2017.3 unresponsiveness, but none
of you came to my rescue.

Nvda goes unresponsive everytime I run more than one applications.

It also goes unresponsive when I am working on he internet.

I use nvda 2017.3 and win10.

My win10 is : Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.726.

On other occasions, I use jaws16 but it does not go unresponsive when
I run multiple applications or am working on the internet.

What is wrong with nvda? Why so unresponsive in win10?

May I also understand about win10 fall creators? What is that?

Sorry for being without this knowledge about win10.

I am, of course, not technical.

Please help.

Kind regards
Marisane


Re: Finding Old Podcasts

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Not that I know of. Best bet is to contact the authors if they are still around or ask if anyone has a copy. Might be a bit niche to find on the torrents.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 7:38 PM
Subject: [nvda] Finding Old Podcasts


Does anyone know if there is a way to recover old podcasts that are no longer online through a source like the Wayback Machine?




Re: Emoticon is not readable in the latest master snapshot

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The whole problem which I suggested should really have meant rolling back espeak since its got other proglems too, revolved around it crashing espeak when certain characters were encountered. To get the release out the function in Espeak has been disabled as it was the inclusion of the dictionaries that was crashing the speech engine. It also was not identifying these collections of symbols correctly which was also probably why it fell over when only one was seen, come to think of it.
My advice would have been roll back two versions of espeak as the pronunciations are rubbish in uk English in some areas and the version in Speech Player in Espeak is in fact far far better for uk English speakers and there were no crashes either.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Mendoza" <lowvisiontek@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 1:24 AM
Subject: [nvda] Emoticon is not readable in the latest master snapshot


I tested the NVDA version master-14687,6aa892b3
it does not read the Emoticon, but when I checked to review the pasted copy it was there. Does anyone experiencing this or to replicate the issue. Thanks.

Robert Mendoza



Re: nvda's unresponsiveness

Marisane Moruthanyana
 

Afternoon Chris

I missed the post.

Please send it to me so that I can read what they're saying.

Your help is appreciated in advance.

Regards
Marisane

On 12/6/17, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:
Hi Marisane
I saw a response to your post which asked you to check if any power saving
options were in operation on your machine which can throttle back the
processor. I think they said something about "always on " being a good
option. Did you do this or did you miss the post?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marisane
Moruthanyana
Sent: 5 December 2017 19:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda's unresponsiveness

Evening guys

I am Marisane from SA.

I recently posted to you about nvda 2017.3 unresponsiveness, but none of
you came to my rescue.

Nvda goes unresponsive everytime I run more than one applications.

It also goes unresponsive when I am working on he internet.

I use nvda 2017.3 and win10.

My win10 is : Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.726.

On other occasions, I use jaws16 but it does not go unresponsive when I
run multiple applications or am working on the internet.

What is wrong with nvda? Why so unresponsive in win10?

May I also understand about win10 fall creators? What is that?

Sorry for being without this knowledge about win10.

I am, of course, not technical.

Please help.

Kind regards
Marisane







Re: NVDA 2017.4 released

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Its not but its not intuitive which is why I suggested somebody wrote a basics article on it. Its more what to ignore than what to use on there. Its a typical site trying to be everything to everybody but ending up a bit of a cluttered mess for most unless they know the tricks. I do not particularly like the in field helpful comments either. I'd prefer separate fields one can fill in for the various questions myself.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Damien Sykes" <damien@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2017.4 released


Hi Quentin,
Unfortunately, I’m still seeing the text field related lags I mentioned after the release of 2017.3 (namely announcements of text highlighting, beginning/end of document/field messages etc). Luckily for me there was nothing seriously important for me to need to upgrade (both 2017.3 and 2017.4 seem to be concentrating on Braille and Windows 10, both of which are irrelevant for me at present), but I felt it important to mention it again in case others are still having these issues.
I would post it as an issue on GitHub, except that as far as I’m concerned, that site seems to have made its way down from heaven on Mars. Forget the programming elements and integrations with Git (which is an aeroplane cockpit in and of itself), even posting issues seems to be a full day’s work for me.
Cheers.
Damien.


From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 4:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2017.4 released

NV Access is pleased to announce that version 2017.4 of NVDA, the free screen reader for Microsoft Windows, has now been released.



https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nv-access-announces-availability-of-nvda-2017-4/




Highlights of this release include many fixes and enhancements to web support including browse mode for web dialogs by default, better reporting of field group labels in browse mode, support for new Windows 10 technologies such as Windows Defender Application Guard and Windows 10 on ARM64, and automatic reporting of screen orientation and battery status. Please note that this version of NVDA no longer supports Windows XP or Windows Vista. The minimum requirement for NVDA is now windows 7 with Service Pack 1.




This award-winning software has been changing the lives of thousands of blind and vision impaired people who can now independently use computers to produce written content, read news, socialise, shop and bank online, and, most importantly, actively participate in education and employment. Please consider helping NV Access to continue this important work by becoming a monthly donor. Download or update today:



https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nv-access-announces-availability-of-nvda-2017-4/



Kind regards

Quentin.

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