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Re: question re nvaccess site and training materials

 

your welcome, its my pleasure.
i opened shop with my favorite version of firefox (version 51) and the
links work for me.
i have the name of material and aftter each item, i have add to cart link.

On 12/6/17, Mary Otten <maryotten@...> wrote:
Thanks, Shara. I can access the shop; I was jusst curious what might be
happening with firefox to make finding that link not possible. Quite
probably operator error, but I was curious. I have not yet upgraded to
the most recent release of NVDA.


Mary


On 12/6/2017 7:53 AM, zahra wrote:
hi mary.
just copy this link and peist in the address bar, i think it should
work for you.
https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
hope that help, God bless you!

On 12/6/17, Mary Otten <maryotten@...> wrote:
I suppose this is mostly directed at Quenton. My experience with the
access site is that I absolutely can't get to the "shop" link using
firefox esr version, but with IE11, it is easy. Why might that be? I
mean, I can't even find it with the find command when using ff.


also, with regard to the  ebooks for Word and the basic training
materials, what format are those in? I didn't see that mentioned on the
training materials page.


Thanks.


Mary







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Re: question re nvaccess site and training materials

Mary Otten
 

Thanks, Shara. I can access the shop; I was jusst curious what might be happening with firefox to make finding that link not possible. Quite probably operator error, but I was curious. I have not yet upgraded to the most recent release of NVDA.


Mary

On 12/6/2017 7:53 AM, zahra wrote:
hi mary.
just copy this link and peist in the address bar, i think it should
work for you.
https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
hope that help, God bless you!

On 12/6/17, Mary Otten <maryotten@...> wrote:
I suppose this is mostly directed at Quenton. My experience with the
access site is that I absolutely can't get to the "shop" link using
firefox esr version, but with IE11, it is easy. Why might that be? I
mean, I can't even find it with the find command when using ff.


also, with regard to the  ebooks for Word and the basic training
materials, what format are those in? I didn't see that mentioned on the
training materials page.


Thanks.


Mary





Re: question re nvaccess site and training materials

 

hi mary.
just copy this link and peist in the address bar, i think it should
work for you.
https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
hope that help, God bless you!

On 12/6/17, Mary Otten <maryotten@...> wrote:
I suppose this is mostly directed at Quenton. My experience with the
access site is that I absolutely can't get to the "shop" link using
firefox esr version, but with IE11, it is easy. Why might that be? I
mean, I can't even find it with the find command when using ff.


also, with regard to the  ebooks for Word and the basic training
materials, what format are those in? I didn't see that mentioned on the
training materials page.


Thanks.


Mary




--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


question re nvaccess site and training materials

Mary Otten
 

I suppose this is mostly directed at Quenton. My experience with the access site is that I absolutely can't get to the "shop" link using firefox esr version, but with IE11, it is easy. Why might that be? I mean, I can't even find it with the find command when using ff.


also, with regard to the  ebooks for Word and the basic training materials, what format are those in? I didn't see that mentioned on the training materials page.


Thanks.


Mary


Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Chris
 

No, its supposed to have the .nvda-add-on extension

 

You can try opening nvda settings menu goto tools and select manage add-ons

In the dialog that opens you should have a list of installed add-ons

And several buttons, so if you tab around till you get to the install button , press enter and browse for the zip file and select it and hit enter, it should then install, check in the the add-ons list

Then close and restart nvda

 

 

From: Greg Wocher
Sent: 06 December 2017 14:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

 

Hello,

Here's another question. The file I downloaded is called MozillaScrips-master.zip. Is this what the addon is suppose to be called.

 

Regards,

Greg Wocher

 

On 12/6/2017 9:30 AM, Greg Wocher wrote:

Hello,
I downloaded it from:
https://github.com/javidominguez/mozillascripts
I have downloaded it twice with the same results. When I change the file extension to .nvda-addon I get an error message.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/6/2017 8:03 AM, Gene wrote:

The question says:

Next I tried changing the file extension from .zip to .nvda-addon. When I hit enter on it to install I get an error saying it is missing a file or is in the wrong format.

 

Where was the file downloaded from, the Drop Box account or the web page that was given later? 

 

When something may be corrupted in a download and there is no error message, the first thing that should always be done is to download it again.  Downloads at times aren't correct and there are no error messages.  If the file still can't be run after a second download, maybe others will have more suggestions.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Rui Fontes

Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:24 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

 

Change the .zip extension to .nvda-addon.

 

Rui

 

 

Às 12:14 de 06/12/2017, Greg Wocher escreveu:

Hello all,

    When I download this all I get is a zip file. When I extract it I am not able to find the add on file. Next I tried changing the file extension from .zip to .nvda-addon. When I hit enter on it to install I get an error saying it is missing a file or is in the wrong format. How can I get this add on installed?

 

Thanks,

Greg Wocher

 

 

On 12/5/2017 2:18 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hello!

 

I don't know why this addon is not in the NVDA repository...

 

The address to get it is:

https://github.com/javidominguez/mozillascripts

 

Rui

 

 

Às 16:19 de 05/12/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:

Is there a reason this ad on is not on the official NVDA Adams page?
Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 5, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Hello!

 

Here is the text of documentation.

 

If you have more douts, please say!

 

Mozilla Scripts
add-on that provides NVDA scripts for Mozilla
Firefox
• NVDA+A (desktop) or NVDA+Control+A (laptop) Reads the page address. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+End (desktop) or NVDA+Shift+End (laptop) Reads the status bar. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+F8 Shows a list of opened tabs. If pressed twice quickly, shows buttons of tool bar.
• NVDA+Control+N Reads the last notification and it takes the system focus to it if it is possible. By pressing two times quickly shows the history of notifications.
• NVDA+F6 Brings the focus to the document.
Thunderbird
• In a message window:
◦ Control+Shift+(1-4) Reads the sender and recipients of the message. If pressed twice quickly, opens the options menu.
◦ Control+Shift+5 Reads the subject of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+6 Reads date of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+A Brings the focus to the list of attachments, if any. (These scripts are also available in the list of messages if you activate the preview pane.)
• In the bar of fast filtering:
◦ Press down Arrow to display more options, enter to check/unchek the selected option.
• In messages list:
◦ If the preview pane is active, press NVDA+downArrow (desktop) or NVDA+A (laptop) to read the message without leaving the list.
◦ Control+NVDA+1-9 moves between columns.
◦ NVDA+H Displays a dialog in which you can change the order of the columns in the message list.
Keystrokes can be customized in Preferences of NVDA > Input gestures when Firefox or Thunderbird are open.

 

Rui Fontes

 

 

Às 15:49 de 05/12/2017, Sally Kiebdaj escreveu:

Hello Rui,

could you tell me a bit more about what this add-on does?

Thank you,

Sally

 

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...> wrote:

Hello Gene,

I like the bookmark idea and will probably go with that.

To answer some of your questions:

It seems to be a series of buttons, I think 3 in total. I have only ever heard the last two which say something along the lines of "open login page" and "close this message," respectively.

Using brows mode to navigate by buttons doesn't work as these buttons seem to not be in the main document. It was one of the first strategies I tried.

For now, I think the bookmark option is the simplest solution.

Thank you!

Sally

 

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I don't know anything about the add on someone else sent.  I thought of another solution that might be the easiest.  Go to the login page and make a bookmark.  I can tell you how to use the bookmarks search feature to find it quickly and conveniently so you don't have to worry about where it is in the book marks list.  If it doesn't have a distinctive name, give it one when you save it to make it easy to find with the book marks search feature.  Then open a new page when you want to log in and use the book mark to go directly to the login page.  That may be the best solution.

 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene

Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 9:17 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

 

I doubt it.  When a dialog opens on a web page, NVDA says the word "dialog."  Have you gotten to the alert message or heard its entire text?  On the new page you open, what is this option; is it a link?  Instead of tabbing until you get to it on the new page, use the screen-reader search function and search from the top of the page for the word "open."  See if you can find whatever it is on the page.  If you can't find it, I may find something in firefox that makes finding the alert easier. 

 

Gene

----- original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 8:38 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

 

It calls itself an alert and I do get to it eventually by tabbing. Do you still think it is a dialogue?

Thanks!

Sally

 

On 12/1/2017 9:13 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

This is probably a web dialog. Not a notification. If you install the last release candidate RC 3 of NVDA, then you can find web dialogs by pressing o.

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Am 01.12.2017 um 15:00 schrieb Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...>:

Is there a hotkey for the alerts about logging into a wifi network? I am currently in a building where the wifi needs a sign in after 10 minutes of inactivity and I can't figure out how to get to that sign in page quickly and easily. For now, I am opening a new window in firefox and tabbing around until I find the "open login page" option.

 

There must be a better way to do this.....

Thanks!

Sally

 

On 11/30/2017 11:29 AM, Gene wrote:

Do you mean stop redirection notices?  Alt a is announced as the allow command at the end of the announcement.  If you want to turn off the notification completely, I'll write instructions in another message. 

 

To tell Firefox not to offer to remember passwords, do the following.

New main steps start on new lines:

Alt t then o to open options. 

After waiting a moment, tab once.  You are now in a list of categories.

Start down arrowing until you get to security.

If down arrowing stops moving you before you get there, up arrow once then continue down arrowing.

Once you get to security, start tabbing until you get to a checkbox that says something like remember logins.  Uncheck it with the space bar.  You won't be asked any longer.

There is no ok button in this dialog-like structure.  Settings take immediate effect.  This is a web page in the browser and since you are on a web page that mimics a dialog, do whatever you want to do that you would do while on a web page after you change the setting.  That is, go to another page by using a book mark, close the browser, etc.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Mary Otten

Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:59 AM

Subject: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

 

I am using the extended service release of Firefox on windows 10 machine with the stable release of NVDA. Sometimes Firefox will put up notices, such as when it offers to remember passwords or when it informs you that has blocked a redirection from the site. How can I access these in order to either tell it I don’t want it to save a password or that I do wanted to allow a redirection?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Rob Hudson
 

Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Is there a way to download the add on already complete as the Drop Box link was? The Drop Box link was useable in the standard way.

There might be, but I did not investigate the linked page thoroughly enough to find it. I have seen this before so I knew what to do when I got the
"xxx-master.zip"
file. All you need to do is a little file manipulation and you have it installed.


Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Gene
 

Is there a way to download the add on already complete as the Drop Box link was?  The Drop Box link was useable in the standard way.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Greg Wocher <gwocher@...> wrote:
> The file I downloaded is called
> MozillaScrips-master.zip. Is this what the addon is suppose to be called.


Here's how you get this going.
1. extract the zip file to somewhere. There will be a folder called
"addon"
 in there.
2. Copy the file
manifest.ini.tpl
Into the
"addon"
folder
3. Rename that file to
"manifest.ini"
less the quotes of course.
4. Open up your favorite archive manager, navigate to the
"addon"
folder and enter it.
5. Select everything in that folder, and create a zip file.
5. Rename the resultant zip file to something like
"MozillaScript.nvda-addon"
6. Install the addon.
Note: make sure you do not select the
"addon"
folder by itself; you need to be inside that folder when the zip file is created.




Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Gene
 

I don't know why that is.  Someone sent a drop box link you can try. 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Hello,
I downloaded it from:
https://github.com/javidominguez/mozillascripts
I have downloaded it twice with the same results. When I change the file extension to .nvda-addon I get an error message.

Regards,
Greg Wocher


On 12/6/2017 8:03 AM, Gene wrote:
The question says:
Next I tried changing the file extension from .zip to .nvda-addon. When I hit enter on it to install I get an error saying it is missing a file or is in the wrong format.
 
Where was the file downloaded from, the Drop Box account or the web page that was given later? 
 
When something may be corrupted in a download and there is no error message, the first thing that should always be done is to download it again.  Downloads at times aren't correct and there are no error messages.  If the file still can't be run after a second download, maybe others will have more suggestions.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Change the .zip extension to .nvda-addon.


Rui



Às 12:14 de 06/12/2017, Greg Wocher escreveu:

Hello all,

    When I download this all I get is a zip file. When I extract it I am not able to find the add on file. Next I tried changing the file extension from .zip to .nvda-addon. When I hit enter on it to install I get an error saying it is missing a file or is in the wrong format. How can I get this add on installed?


Thanks,

Greg Wocher



On 12/5/2017 2:18 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hello!


I don't know why this addon is not in the NVDA repository...


The address to get it is:

https://github.com/javidominguez/mozillascripts


Rui



Às 16:19 de 05/12/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:
Is there a reason this ad on is not on the official NVDA Adams page?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 5, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Hello!


Here is the text of documentation.


If you have more douts, please say!


Mozilla Scripts
add-on that provides NVDA scripts for Mozilla
Firefox
• NVDA+A (desktop) or NVDA+Control+A (laptop) Reads the page address. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+End (desktop) or NVDA+Shift+End (laptop) Reads the status bar. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+F8 Shows a list of opened tabs. If pressed twice quickly, shows buttons of tool bar.
• NVDA+Control+N Reads the last notification and it takes the system focus to it if it is possible. By pressing two times quickly shows the history of notifications.
• NVDA+F6 Brings the focus to the document.
Thunderbird
• In a message window:
◦ Control+Shift+(1-4) Reads the sender and recipients of the message. If pressed twice quickly, opens the options menu.
◦ Control+Shift+5 Reads the subject of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+6 Reads date of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+A Brings the focus to the list of attachments, if any. (These scripts are also available in the list of messages if you activate the preview pane.)
• In the bar of fast filtering:
◦ Press down Arrow to display more options, enter to check/unchek the selected option.
• In messages list:
◦ If the preview pane is active, press NVDA+downArrow (desktop) or NVDA+A (laptop) to read the message without leaving the list.
◦ Control+NVDA+1-9 moves between columns.
◦ NVDA+H Displays a dialog in which you can change the order of the columns in the message list.
Keystrokes can be customized in Preferences of NVDA > Input gestures when Firefox or Thunderbird are open.


Rui Fontes



Às 15:49 de 05/12/2017, Sally Kiebdaj escreveu:
Hello Rui,

could you tell me a bit more about what this add-on does?

Thank you,
Sally

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...> wrote:
Hello Gene,

I like the bookmark idea and will probably go with that.

To answer some of your questions:

It seems to be a series of buttons, I think 3 in total. I have only ever heard the last two which say something along the lines of "open login page" and "close this message," respectively.

Using brows mode to navigate by buttons doesn't work as these buttons seem to not be in the main document. It was one of the first strategies I tried.

For now, I think the bookmark option is the simplest solution.

Thank you!
Sally

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I don't know anything about the add on someone else sent.  I thought of another solution that might be the easiest.  Go to the login page and make a bookmark.  I can tell you how to use the bookmarks search feature to find it quickly and conveniently so you don't have to worry about where it is in the book marks list.  If it doesn't have a distinctive name, give it one when you save it to make it easy to find with the book marks search feature.  Then open a new page when you want to log in and use the book mark to go directly to the login page.  That may be the best solution.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

I doubt it.  When a dialog opens on a web page, NVDA says the word "dialog."  Have you gotten to the alert message or heard its entire text?  On the new page you open, what is this option; is it a link?  Instead of tabbing until you get to it on the new page, use the screen-reader search function and search from the top of the page for the word "open."  See if you can find whatever it is on the page.  If you can't find it, I may find something in firefox that makes finding the alert easier. 
 
Gene
----- original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

It calls itself an alert and I do get to it eventually by tabbing. Do you still think it is a dialogue?

Thanks!

Sally


On 12/1/2017 9:13 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:
This is probably a web dialog. Not a notification. If you install the last release candidate RC 3 of NVDA, then you can find web dialogs by pressing o.

Best
Adriani



Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 01.12.2017 um 15:00 schrieb Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...>:

Is there a hotkey for the alerts about logging into a wifi network? I am currently in a building where the wifi needs a sign in after 10 minutes of inactivity and I can't figure out how to get to that sign in page quickly and easily. For now, I am opening a new window in firefox and tabbing around until I find the "open login page" option.


There must be a better way to do this.....

Thanks!

Sally


On 11/30/2017 11:29 AM, Gene wrote:
Do you mean stop redirection notices?  Alt a is announced as the allow command at the end of the announcement.  If you want to turn off the notification completely, I'll write instructions in another message. 
 
To tell Firefox not to offer to remember passwords, do the following.
New main steps start on new lines:
Alt t then o to open options. 
After waiting a moment, tab once.  You are now in a list of categories.
Start down arrowing until you get to security.
If down arrowing stops moving you before you get there, up arrow once then continue down arrowing.
Once you get to security, start tabbing until you get to a checkbox that says something like remember logins.  Uncheck it with the space bar.  You won't be asked any longer.
There is no ok button in this dialog-like structure.  Settings take immediate effect.  This is a web page in the browser and since you are on a web page that mimics a dialog, do whatever you want to do that you would do while on a web page after you change the setting.  That is, go to another page by using a book mark, close the browser, etc.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:59 AM
Subject: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

I am using the extended service release of Firefox on windows 10 machine with the stable release of NVDA. Sometimes Firefox will put up notices, such as when it offers to remember passwords or when it informs you that has blocked a redirection from the site. How can I access these in order to either tell it I don’t want it to save a password or that I do wanted to allow a redirection?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone












Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Gene
 

This isn't about changing settings.  That's a useful way to get to different settings quickly, which is useful but it doesn't address the question which deals with notifications that appear in firefox and how you move to them and work with them.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

to save all that searching, just go to the address bar and type in about:preferences#security, this will take you straight to the security page.
if you want to go to the general page, it is about:preferences#general and if you want to go to the applications page, about:preferences#applications.  I think you can understand where this is going, if you want to go anywhere on that page, you type about:# and then the name of the section.  once you have landed there, you can do what you have to do.

hope that this helps.


Re: How does NVDA read text boxes?

Adriani Botez
 

Why is it difficult for the screen reader to recognize text fields? If they would be defined as objects in the source code I think there would not be a problem. Or am I wrong?

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Martin O'Sullivan
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Dezember 2017 15:11
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] How does NVDA read text boxes?

 


here is one way of doing it.

This works because,once you are in a text box (or picture or other object) you can press TAB to move between them. 

here is what you need to do.

1 Save the document, to keep any changes you want to keep .
2 Add a text box into a document by pressing alt+n, x, enter

3 Press escape once (so you are out of the text itself but the text box is still selected),
4 You can press TAB to move between the objects in the document (this wraps so if you press TAB on the last object in the document it will jump back to the first object). 
5 Remove the text box you just added, by exiting the document without saving changes.

Text boxes are difficult for a screen reader to access.

 

 

 



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On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

I received a  word document that appeared to be blank.  Turns out it is a series of 15 text boxes of information.  How can I read stinkin' text boxes with NVDA???

Thanks



 


Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Rob Hudson
 

Greg Wocher <gwocher@...> wrote:
The file I downloaded is called
MozillaScrips-master.zip. Is this what the addon is suppose to be called.

Here's how you get this going.
1. extract the zip file to somewhere. There will be a folder called
"addon"
in there.
2. Copy the file
manifest.ini.tpl
Into the
"addon"
folder
3. Rename that file to
"manifest.ini"
less the quotes of course.
4. Open up your favorite archive manager, navigate to the
"addon"
folder and enter it.
5. Select everything in that folder, and create a zip file.
5. Rename the resultant zip file to something like
"MozillaScript.nvda-addon"
6. Install the addon.
Note: make sure you do not select the
"addon"
folder by itself; you need to be inside that folder when the zip file is created.


Re: Power Point presentation access

ely.r@...
 

Thanks for this. I was in touch with the Microsoft Accessibility Team. They sent suggestions along using Narrator. However, even in the overview of that process, it was stated that Narrator would not work in presentation mode.

I will give this a try,
Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Domingos de Oliveira via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 6:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Power Point presentation access

Hi,

if you change into the presentation Mode with F5, NVDA reads the whole slide. You then have to press Return to turn to the next slide.

HTH

2017-12-06 1:34 GMT+01:00, Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...>:
Rick,



I am able to read presentations including alternative text tags in
Powerpoint with NVDA without problems. No third party program needed.



Pranav


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Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,

Here's another question. The file I downloaded is called MozillaScrips-master.zip. Is this what the addon is suppose to be called.


Regards,

Greg Wocher


On 12/6/2017 9:30 AM, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello,
I downloaded it from:
https://github.com/javidominguez/mozillascripts
I have downloaded it twice with the same results. When I change the file extension to .nvda-addon I get an error message.

Regards,
Greg Wocher


On 12/6/2017 8:03 AM, Gene wrote:
The question says:
Next I tried changing the file extension from .zip to .nvda-addon. When I hit enter on it to install I get an error saying it is missing a file or is in the wrong format.
 
Where was the file downloaded from, the Drop Box account or the web page that was given later? 
 
When something may be corrupted in a download and there is no error message, the first thing that should always be done is to download it again.  Downloads at times aren't correct and there are no error messages.  If the file still can't be run after a second download, maybe others will have more suggestions.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Change the .zip extension to .nvda-addon.


Rui



Às 12:14 de 06/12/2017, Greg Wocher escreveu:

Hello all,

    When I download this all I get is a zip file. When I extract it I am not able to find the add on file. Next I tried changing the file extension from .zip to .nvda-addon. When I hit enter on it to install I get an error saying it is missing a file or is in the wrong format. How can I get this add on installed?


Thanks,

Greg Wocher



On 12/5/2017 2:18 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hello!


I don't know why this addon is not in the NVDA repository...


The address to get it is:

https://github.com/javidominguez/mozillascripts


Rui



Às 16:19 de 05/12/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:
Is there a reason this ad on is not on the official NVDA Adams page?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 5, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Hello!


Here is the text of documentation.


If you have more douts, please say!


Mozilla Scripts
add-on that provides NVDA scripts for Mozilla
Firefox
• NVDA+A (desktop) or NVDA+Control+A (laptop) Reads the page address. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+End (desktop) or NVDA+Shift+End (laptop) Reads the status bar. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+F8 Shows a list of opened tabs. If pressed twice quickly, shows buttons of tool bar.
• NVDA+Control+N Reads the last notification and it takes the system focus to it if it is possible. By pressing two times quickly shows the history of notifications.
• NVDA+F6 Brings the focus to the document.
Thunderbird
• In a message window:
◦ Control+Shift+(1-4) Reads the sender and recipients of the message. If pressed twice quickly, opens the options menu.
◦ Control+Shift+5 Reads the subject of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+6 Reads date of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+A Brings the focus to the list of attachments, if any. (These scripts are also available in the list of messages if you activate the preview pane.)
• In the bar of fast filtering:
◦ Press down Arrow to display more options, enter to check/unchek the selected option.
• In messages list:
◦ If the preview pane is active, press NVDA+downArrow (desktop) or NVDA+A (laptop) to read the message without leaving the list.
◦ Control+NVDA+1-9 moves between columns.
◦ NVDA+H Displays a dialog in which you can change the order of the columns in the message list.
Keystrokes can be customized in Preferences of NVDA > Input gestures when Firefox or Thunderbird are open.


Rui Fontes



Às 15:49 de 05/12/2017, Sally Kiebdaj escreveu:
Hello Rui,

could you tell me a bit more about what this add-on does?

Thank you,
Sally

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...> wrote:
Hello Gene,

I like the bookmark idea and will probably go with that.

To answer some of your questions:

It seems to be a series of buttons, I think 3 in total. I have only ever heard the last two which say something along the lines of "open login page" and "close this message," respectively.

Using brows mode to navigate by buttons doesn't work as these buttons seem to not be in the main document. It was one of the first strategies I tried.

For now, I think the bookmark option is the simplest solution.

Thank you!
Sally

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I don't know anything about the add on someone else sent.  I thought of another solution that might be the easiest.  Go to the login page and make a bookmark.  I can tell you how to use the bookmarks search feature to find it quickly and conveniently so you don't have to worry about where it is in the book marks list.  If it doesn't have a distinctive name, give it one when you save it to make it easy to find with the book marks search feature.  Then open a new page when you want to log in and use the book mark to go directly to the login page.  That may be the best solution.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

I doubt it.  When a dialog opens on a web page, NVDA says the word "dialog."  Have you gotten to the alert message or heard its entire text?  On the new page you open, what is this option; is it a link?  Instead of tabbing until you get to it on the new page, use the screen-reader search function and search from the top of the page for the word "open."  See if you can find whatever it is on the page.  If you can't find it, I may find something in firefox that makes finding the alert easier. 
 
Gene
----- original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

It calls itself an alert and I do get to it eventually by tabbing. Do you still think it is a dialogue?

Thanks!

Sally


On 12/1/2017 9:13 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:
This is probably a web dialog. Not a notification. If you install the last release candidate RC 3 of NVDA, then you can find web dialogs by pressing o.

Best
Adriani



Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 01.12.2017 um 15:00 schrieb Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...>:

Is there a hotkey for the alerts about logging into a wifi network? I am currently in a building where the wifi needs a sign in after 10 minutes of inactivity and I can't figure out how to get to that sign in page quickly and easily. For now, I am opening a new window in firefox and tabbing around until I find the "open login page" option.


There must be a better way to do this.....

Thanks!

Sally


On 11/30/2017 11:29 AM, Gene wrote:
Do you mean stop redirection notices?  Alt a is announced as the allow command at the end of the announcement.  If you want to turn off the notification completely, I'll write instructions in another message. 
 
To tell Firefox not to offer to remember passwords, do the following.
New main steps start on new lines:
Alt t then o to open options. 
After waiting a moment, tab once.  You are now in a list of categories.
Start down arrowing until you get to security.
If down arrowing stops moving you before you get there, up arrow once then continue down arrowing.
Once you get to security, start tabbing until you get to a checkbox that says something like remember logins.  Uncheck it with the space bar.  You won't be asked any longer.
There is no ok button in this dialog-like structure.  Settings take immediate effect.  This is a web page in the browser and since you are on a web page that mimics a dialog, do whatever you want to do that you would do while on a web page after you change the setting.  That is, go to another page by using a book mark, close the browser, etc.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:59 AM
Subject: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

I am using the extended service release of Firefox on windows 10 machine with the stable release of NVDA. Sometimes Firefox will put up notices, such as when it offers to remember passwords or when it informs you that has blocked a redirection from the site. How can I access these in order to either tell it I don’t want it to save a password or that I do wanted to allow a redirection?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone













Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
I downloaded it from:
https://github.com/javidominguez/mozillascripts
I have downloaded it twice with the same results. When I change the file extension to .nvda-addon I get an error message.

Regards,
Greg Wocher


On 12/6/2017 8:03 AM, Gene wrote:
The question says:
Next I tried changing the file extension from .zip to .nvda-addon. When I hit enter on it to install I get an error saying it is missing a file or is in the wrong format.
 
Where was the file downloaded from, the Drop Box account or the web page that was given later? 
 
When something may be corrupted in a download and there is no error message, the first thing that should always be done is to download it again.  Downloads at times aren't correct and there are no error messages.  If the file still can't be run after a second download, maybe others will have more suggestions.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Change the .zip extension to .nvda-addon.


Rui



Às 12:14 de 06/12/2017, Greg Wocher escreveu:

Hello all,

    When I download this all I get is a zip file. When I extract it I am not able to find the add on file. Next I tried changing the file extension from .zip to .nvda-addon. When I hit enter on it to install I get an error saying it is missing a file or is in the wrong format. How can I get this add on installed?


Thanks,

Greg Wocher



On 12/5/2017 2:18 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hello!


I don't know why this addon is not in the NVDA repository...


The address to get it is:

https://github.com/javidominguez/mozillascripts


Rui



Às 16:19 de 05/12/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:
Is there a reason this ad on is not on the official NVDA Adams page?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 5, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Hello!


Here is the text of documentation.


If you have more douts, please say!


Mozilla Scripts
add-on that provides NVDA scripts for Mozilla
Firefox
• NVDA+A (desktop) or NVDA+Control+A (laptop) Reads the page address. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+End (desktop) or NVDA+Shift+End (laptop) Reads the status bar. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+F8 Shows a list of opened tabs. If pressed twice quickly, shows buttons of tool bar.
• NVDA+Control+N Reads the last notification and it takes the system focus to it if it is possible. By pressing two times quickly shows the history of notifications.
• NVDA+F6 Brings the focus to the document.
Thunderbird
• In a message window:
◦ Control+Shift+(1-4) Reads the sender and recipients of the message. If pressed twice quickly, opens the options menu.
◦ Control+Shift+5 Reads the subject of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+6 Reads date of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+A Brings the focus to the list of attachments, if any. (These scripts are also available in the list of messages if you activate the preview pane.)
• In the bar of fast filtering:
◦ Press down Arrow to display more options, enter to check/unchek the selected option.
• In messages list:
◦ If the preview pane is active, press NVDA+downArrow (desktop) or NVDA+A (laptop) to read the message without leaving the list.
◦ Control+NVDA+1-9 moves between columns.
◦ NVDA+H Displays a dialog in which you can change the order of the columns in the message list.
Keystrokes can be customized in Preferences of NVDA > Input gestures when Firefox or Thunderbird are open.


Rui Fontes



Às 15:49 de 05/12/2017, Sally Kiebdaj escreveu:
Hello Rui,

could you tell me a bit more about what this add-on does?

Thank you,
Sally

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...> wrote:
Hello Gene,

I like the bookmark idea and will probably go with that.

To answer some of your questions:

It seems to be a series of buttons, I think 3 in total. I have only ever heard the last two which say something along the lines of "open login page" and "close this message," respectively.

Using brows mode to navigate by buttons doesn't work as these buttons seem to not be in the main document. It was one of the first strategies I tried.

For now, I think the bookmark option is the simplest solution.

Thank you!
Sally

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I don't know anything about the add on someone else sent.  I thought of another solution that might be the easiest.  Go to the login page and make a bookmark.  I can tell you how to use the bookmarks search feature to find it quickly and conveniently so you don't have to worry about where it is in the book marks list.  If it doesn't have a distinctive name, give it one when you save it to make it easy to find with the book marks search feature.  Then open a new page when you want to log in and use the book mark to go directly to the login page.  That may be the best solution.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

I doubt it.  When a dialog opens on a web page, NVDA says the word "dialog."  Have you gotten to the alert message or heard its entire text?  On the new page you open, what is this option; is it a link?  Instead of tabbing until you get to it on the new page, use the screen-reader search function and search from the top of the page for the word "open."  See if you can find whatever it is on the page.  If you can't find it, I may find something in firefox that makes finding the alert easier. 
 
Gene
----- original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

It calls itself an alert and I do get to it eventually by tabbing. Do you still think it is a dialogue?

Thanks!

Sally


On 12/1/2017 9:13 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:
This is probably a web dialog. Not a notification. If you install the last release candidate RC 3 of NVDA, then you can find web dialogs by pressing o.

Best
Adriani



Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 01.12.2017 um 15:00 schrieb Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...>:

Is there a hotkey for the alerts about logging into a wifi network? I am currently in a building where the wifi needs a sign in after 10 minutes of inactivity and I can't figure out how to get to that sign in page quickly and easily. For now, I am opening a new window in firefox and tabbing around until I find the "open login page" option.


There must be a better way to do this.....

Thanks!

Sally


On 11/30/2017 11:29 AM, Gene wrote:
Do you mean stop redirection notices?  Alt a is announced as the allow command at the end of the announcement.  If you want to turn off the notification completely, I'll write instructions in another message. 
 
To tell Firefox not to offer to remember passwords, do the following.
New main steps start on new lines:
Alt t then o to open options. 
After waiting a moment, tab once.  You are now in a list of categories.
Start down arrowing until you get to security.
If down arrowing stops moving you before you get there, up arrow once then continue down arrowing.
Once you get to security, start tabbing until you get to a checkbox that says something like remember logins.  Uncheck it with the space bar.  You won't be asked any longer.
There is no ok button in this dialog-like structure.  Settings take immediate effect.  This is a web page in the browser and since you are on a web page that mimics a dialog, do whatever you want to do that you would do while on a web page after you change the setting.  That is, go to another page by using a book mark, close the browser, etc.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:59 AM
Subject: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

I am using the extended service release of Firefox on windows 10 machine with the stable release of NVDA. Sometimes Firefox will put up notices, such as when it offers to remember passwords or when it informs you that has blocked a redirection from the site. How can I access these in order to either tell it I don’t want it to save a password or that I do wanted to allow a redirection?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone












Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Martin O'Sullivan
 

to save all that searching, just go to the address bar and type in about:preferences#security, this will take you straight to the security page.
if you want to go to the general page, it is about:preferences#general and if you want to go to the applications page, about:preferences#applications.  I think you can understand where this is going, if you want to go anywhere on that page, you type about:# and then the name of the section.  once you have landed there, you can do what you have to do.

hope that this helps.


Re: How does NVDA read text boxes?

Martin O'Sullivan
 


here is one way of doing it.

This works because,once you are in a text box (or picture or other object) you can press TAB to move between them. 

here is what you need to do.
1 Save the document, to keep any changes you want to keep .
2 Add a text box into a document by pressing alt+n, x, enter
3 Press escape once (so you are out of the text itself but the text box is still selected),
4 You can press TAB to move between the objects in the document (this wraps so if you press TAB on the last object in the document it will jump back to the first object). 
5 Remove the text box you just added, by exiting the document without saving changes.

Text boxes are difficult for a screen reader to access.






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On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
I received a  word document that appeared to be blank.  Turns out it is a series of 15 text boxes of information.  How can I read stinkin' text boxes with NVDA???

Thanks






Re: OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult than before

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

My old dell has fans but its not the drive that seems to generate the heat its the processor itself. You can tell as when its working hard on things but not using the disc much the fan starts to speed up and the bottom gets hot. That is a Dell inspiron running xp, though it is supposed to be able to run 7, but have not bothered.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 4:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult than before


Hi guys!
My HP Stream 11 has a SSD drive, and no fan. I have nothing to hear what so ever. It makes it interesting, because sometimes, it locks, and I can’t tell if it is still on or has it totally turned off LOL! Sometimes, it comes down to holding down the power button a few seconds and then I know I have shut it down. Then, I just tap the power button, and it turns on. Now, when you start the computer, you can turn on Narrator quickly, and it will take you through the start up before JAWS or NVDA starts talking LOL!
It has been an adventure, but this baby only weighs 2 and a half pounds, and has a 128 Gig SSD Drive, and four Gigs of ram. This thing never gets hot, so it does not need a fan LOL!
Take care, guys!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 7:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult than before

If you have a hybrid laptop, you do not have any sound!

Às 22:29 de 05/12/2017, Antony Stone escreveu:
There is no sound from an SSD. The machine will still have a system fan for
the CPU and RAM, however, which you may be able to hear.

Antony.

On Tuesday 05 December 2017 at 22:59:57, tina sohl wrote:

How do you know when a pc with and ssd drive is running? If you can't
see it, is there still something you can hear? Both our pcs still have
regular drives so we're curious.


Rui


Re: OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult than before

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes I notice this on my machine with an ssd, a desktop though.
Tell me I assume this machine has no numeric keypad then. I'd rather like one as my older fingers are not as nimble aas they used to be.
Also did you have to deactivate the function keys from being special laptop control keys?
If one can get that in the same way but with 8 gigs of ram it would probably do me, but the lack of a back up drive might be an issue.the one in this desktop is 250 ssd, and I also have a 1tb one for back ups and non urgent files. Its amazing how you notice the speed difference when getting stuff from the old mechanical drive compared to the ssd.
I've had this since 2015, and touch wood nothing has gone wrong. However I am keeping windows 7 for ease of use reasons.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 4:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult than before


Hi guys!
My HP Stream 11 has a SSD drive, and no fan. I have nothing to hear what so ever. It makes it interesting, because sometimes, it locks, and I can’t tell if it is still on or has it totally turned off LOL! Sometimes, it comes down to holding down the power button a few seconds and then I know I have shut it down. Then, I just tap the power button, and it turns on. Now, when you start the computer, you can turn on Narrator quickly, and it will take you through the start up before JAWS or NVDA starts talking LOL!
It has been an adventure, but this baby only weighs 2 and a half pounds, and has a 128 Gig SSD Drive, and four Gigs of ram. This thing never gets hot, so it does not need a fan LOL!
Take care, guys!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 7:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult than before

If you have a hybrid laptop, you do not have any sound!

Às 22:29 de 05/12/2017, Antony Stone escreveu:
There is no sound from an SSD. The machine will still have a system fan for
the CPU and RAM, however, which you may be able to hear.

Antony.

On Tuesday 05 December 2017 at 22:59:57, tina sohl wrote:

How do you know when a pc with and ssd drive is running? If you can't
see it, is there still something you can hear? Both our pcs still have
regular drives so we're curious.


Rui


Re: Bringing the review cursor to the focused cursor?

Gene
 

I don't know if NVDA ever specifically supported Udora, but it works with programs that follow standard Windows conventions.  It might not work because there is something in Udora's code that causes the review mode not to be aware of the cursor or the object. 
 
What are you doing that you want to move back to the current position?  There may be other ways to do what you want. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Bringing the review cursor to the focused cursor?

thanks.  It works in Word but not in Eudora. Is NVDA no longer
supporting Eudora???


At 07:13 AM 12/6/2017, you wrote:
>The command is NVDA key plus numpad minus, the top right key on the numpad.
>
>Gene
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:annakb@...>Ann Byrne
>Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:59 AM
>To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
>Subject: [nvda] Bringing the review cursor to the focused cursor?
>
>After I wander around the screen in review mode, how do I return the
>the review cursor to where the  focus is on the screen?
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>
>




How does NVDA read text boxes?

Ann Byrne
 

I received a word document that appeared to be blank. Turns out it is a series of 15 text boxes of information. How can I read stinkin' text boxes with NVDA???

Thanks