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Windows 10 ADVISORY: you need to use NVDA 2017.4 if you want to install it on Windows 10 on ARM

 

Hi all,

 

Another advisory/directive, this time a notice concerning a new technology in Windows 10:

 

If you come across Windows 10 on ARM (always connected PC’s) and wish to use NVDA on it, you need to install 2017.4 or later. NVDA 2017.4 will recognize these PC’s as running Windows 10 64-bit, though performance won’t be as smooth as Windows 10 on x64 processors for now.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required

 

Dear NVDA community,

 

It was brought to developers’ attention that some people were having issues upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out some were using Windows 7 RTM build. Thus the following community directive:

 

In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or later is ABSOLUTELY required.

 

To find out which Windows release you’ve got:

 

  1. Press Windows key to open Start menu.
  2. Type “winver” without quotes and press Enter.
  3. Check the build shown on About Windows dialog.

 

If the build number is 7601 or higher, you’re all set. If it is lower than that:

 

  • If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is 7600), please use NVDA 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then update to NVDA 2017.4.
  • If using versions other than 7 (build number is less than 7600), then NVDA 2017.3 is the last supported version for you.

 

In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce minimum supported versions of NVDA and Windows. For example, if you are using StationPlaylist Studio add-on, starting from version 17.12 stable, Windows 7 SP1 or higher is absolutely required.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: preview pane in t-bird

John Isige
 

view/layout/message pane. You can toggle it with F8 I think.

On 12/6/2017 11:28, Mary Otten wrote:
Hi all,


Having installed the mozilla add-on, thanks to Gene's direct link, I have been trying to find a setting for the preview pane in T-bird and I'm coming up empty. I've been going through the menus systematically, but I know they can change depending on where you are in the program when you start this process. I've been in the message list and am not seeing anything about envoking a preview pane; I thought I'd see it in the view menu.


Mary



Re: Emoticon is not readable in the latest master snapshot

 

I agree, a lot of the new pronounciations just don't work.

As I said before I would have been happy if we roled all the way back to espeak the last version and never update it at least the english databases.

They were fine as they were ages ago back in 2013 or there abouts.

On 7/12/2017 1:46 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
The whole problem which I suggested should really have meant rolling back espeak since its got other proglems too, revolved around it crashing espeak when certain characters were encountered. To get the release out the function in Espeak has been disabled as it was the inclusion of the dictionaries that was crashing the speech engine. It also was not identifying these collections of symbols correctly which was also probably why it fell over when only one was seen, come to think of it.
My advice would have been roll back two versions of espeak as the pronunciations are rubbish in uk English in some areas and the version in Speech Player in Espeak is in fact far far better for uk English speakers and there were no crashes either.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Mendoza" <lowvisiontek@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 1:24 AM
Subject: [nvda] Emoticon is not readable in the latest master snapshot


I tested the NVDA version master-14687,6aa892b3
it does not read the Emoticon, but when I checked to review the pasted copy it was there. Does anyone experiencing this or to replicate the issue. Thanks.

Robert Mendoza






Re: Emoticon is not readable in the latest master snapshot

tina sohl <tinabir@...>
 

Are you able to write imogees too with NVDA or just read them? How do you write them if you can?


Re: OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult than before

tina sohl <tinabir@...>
 

Interesting David. Thanks for explaining. I didn't know you could turn narrator on as it's booting. Is this your main laptop? I just worry about filling that drive up in 5 minutes. smile.
Original message:

Hi guys!
My HP Stream 11 has a SSD drive, and no fan. I have nothing to hear what so ever. It makes it interesting, because sometimes, it locks, and I can’t tell if it is still on or has it totally turned off LOL! Sometimes, it comes down to holding down the power button a few seconds and then I know I have shut it down. Then, I just tap the power button, and it turns on. Now, when you start the computer, you can turn on Narrator quickly, and it will take you through the start up before JAWS or NVDA starts talking LOL!
It has been an adventure, but this baby only weighs 2 and a half pounds, and has a 128 Gig SSD Drive, and four Gigs of ram. This thing never gets hot, so it does not need a fan LOL!
Take care, guys!
David Moore
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
From: Rui Fontes <mailto:rui.fontes@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 7:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult than before
If you have a hybrid laptop, you do not have any sound!
Às 22:29 de 05/12/2017, Antony Stone escreveu:

There is no sound from an SSD. The machine will still have a system fan for

the CPU and RAM, however, which you may be able to hear.




Antony.




On Tuesday 05 December 2017 at 22:59:57, tina sohl wrote:




How do you know when a pc with and ssd drive is running? If you can't

see it, is there still something you can hear? Both our pcs still have

regular drives so we're curious.



Rui


Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Brice Mijares
 

Would you kindly explain what this ad on manager is for? Also how it's works? Thank You.

On 12/6/2017 9:08 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,
For some reason, this direct download link for the Mozilla scripts is buried deep within pages.
Try this direct link which I found and it works and has the proper extension to immediately launch NVDA's add-on manager.
https://github.com/javidominguez/MozillaScripts/releases/download/1.4/MozillaScripts-1.4.nvda-addon Clickon the link labeled:
On 12/6/2017 10:11 AM, Rob Hudson wrote:
Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Is there a way to download the add on already complete as the Drop Box link was?  The Drop Box link was useable in the standard way.
There might be, but I did not investigate the linked page thoroughly enough to find it. I have seen this before so I knew what to do when I got the
"xxx-master.zip"
file. All you need to do is a little file manipulation and you have it installed.




preview pane in t-bird

Mary Otten
 

Hi all,


Having installed the mozilla add-on, thanks to Gene's direct link, I have been trying to find a setting for the preview pane in T-bird and I'm coming up empty. I've been going through the menus systematically, but I know they can change depending on where you are in the program when you start this process. I've been in the message list and am not seeing anything about envoking a preview pane; I thought I'd see it in the view menu.


Mary


Re: Some misstakes in new rc NVDA version

 

hi quentin,

may i request the problem hear?
iranian people reported problem with espeak ng new version.
they told that espeak voice became more robatic and unpleasant and
also many words which spoked previously correctly, now espeak ng says
them wrong!
we put punctuation level none and nvda speaks some of them!
even we cant select to use farsi with english US or english Uk!
hope that someone help the iranian users of new espeak ng too.
God bless you all!

On 12/6/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
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Thanks I've sent off an email to see what occurs.
brain

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Hareth" <hareth4m@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some misstakes in new rc NVDA version


Here you go to subscribe:
espeak-ng+subscribe@groups.io

On 12/5/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
What do I do to subscribe by sending an email, by the way?
I don't really want to mess around on the web for this.
brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Hareth" <hareth4m@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some misstakes in new rc NVDA version


The developer created a mailing list for that, here is the link:
https://groups.io/g/espeak-ng

On 12/5/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
It would also be good to see a very clear message somewhere permanent
about

somewhere we can interact with the current Espeak team and shall we
say,

not

be sort of ignored as noise.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some misstakes in new rc NVDA version


We changed from using eSpeak NG 1.49.1 in 2017.3 to using 1.49.2, but
for
those not using the Next or Master snaps, the RC builds (or the final
2017.4 when it comes out) are likely the first time they've tried it.
So,
as Brian guessed, it's likely that the issues here are not specific
to
this
RC as such, but to the change in eSpeak version, since the RCs are a
bit
more widely distributed. It would be good to get confirmation from
Marco
though.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 1:57 AM, Brian's Mail list account via
Groups.Io

<
bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I got the impressing it was RCs in this series actually.
I have certainly noticed some strangenesses in Espeak on recent
snapshots
since the last two updates of espeak NG, none for the better
particularly
in English hence my work around mentioned in my reply.

I guess the most noticable is the way it says the word for in some
circumstances, making it into fur. Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Antony Stone" <
antony.stone@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some misstakes in new rc NVDA version


Your subject line refers to the new RC version.

Is this problem something new in the latest RC version and did not
exist
in
earlier (RC or otherwise) versions, or does the same problem also
exist

in
older (especially standard release) versions of NVDA?


Antony.

On Monday 04 December 2017 at 11:43:33, Marco Oros wrote:

Hi!

At the first, where can I inform about this thing of NVDA
misstakes
of,
for example Espeak NG?

Because I have noticed, that new Mandarin Chinese is badly
pronounced
in
NVDA in that way, that syllable and some kind of number. Maybe,
this
is
problem of Espeak NG, but I am not shure.

Nextly, arabic letter meem is pronounced in Espeak, like meetar,
but

I
think, that It is incorrect.

Where can I issued those things?

Thank You.

Marco Oros
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exaggerating!"

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the
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available:
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Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Mary Otten
 

Thanks a lot, Gene! Very helpful.


Mary

On 12/6/2017 9:08 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,


For some reason, this direct download link for the Mozilla scripts is buried deep within pages.

Try this direct link which I found and it works and has the proper extension to immediately launch NVDA's add-on manager.

https://github.com/javidominguez/MozillaScripts/releases/download/1.4/MozillaScripts-1.4.nvda-addon


Clickon the link labeled:




On 12/6/2017 10:11 AM, Rob Hudson wrote:
Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Is there a way to download the add on already complete as the Drop Box link was?  The Drop Box link was useable in the standard way.
There might be, but I did not investigate the linked page thoroughly enough to find it. I have seen this before so I knew what to do when I got the
"xxx-master.zip"
file. All you need to do is a little file manipulation and you have it installed.




Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


For some reason, this direct download link for the Mozilla scripts is buried deep within pages.

Try this direct link which I found and it works and has the proper extension to immediately launch NVDA's add-on manager.

https://github.com/javidominguez/MozillaScripts/releases/download/1.4/MozillaScripts-1.4.nvda-addon


Clickon the link labeled:

On 12/6/2017 10:11 AM, Rob Hudson wrote:
Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Is there a way to download the add on already complete as the Drop Box link was? The Drop Box link was useable in the standard way.
There might be, but I did not investigate the linked page thoroughly enough to find it. I have seen this before so I knew what to do when I got the
"xxx-master.zip"
file. All you need to do is a little file manipulation and you have it installed.


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Re: Some misstakes in new rc NVDA version

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Thanks I've sent off an email to see what occurs.
brain

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Hareth" <hareth4m@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some misstakes in new rc NVDA version


Here you go to subscribe:
espeak-ng+subscribe@groups.io

On 12/5/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
What do I do to subscribe by sending an email, by the way?
I don't really want to mess around on the web for this.
brian

bglists@...
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Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Hareth" <hareth4m@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some misstakes in new rc NVDA version


The developer created a mailing list for that, here is the link:
https://groups.io/g/espeak-ng

On 12/5/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
It would also be good to see a very clear message somewhere permanent
about

somewhere we can interact with the current Espeak team and shall we say,

not

be sort of ignored as noise.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
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briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some misstakes in new rc NVDA version


We changed from using eSpeak NG 1.49.1 in 2017.3 to using 1.49.2, but
for
those not using the Next or Master snaps, the RC builds (or the final
2017.4 when it comes out) are likely the first time they've tried it.
So,
as Brian guessed, it's likely that the issues here are not specific to
this
RC as such, but to the change in eSpeak version, since the RCs are a
bit
more widely distributed. It would be good to get confirmation from
Marco
though.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 1:57 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

<
bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I got the impressing it was RCs in this series actually.
I have certainly noticed some strangenesses in Espeak on recent
snapshots
since the last two updates of espeak NG, none for the better
particularly
in English hence my work around mentioned in my reply.

I guess the most noticable is the way it says the word for in some
circumstances, making it into fur. Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Antony Stone" <
antony.stone@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some misstakes in new rc NVDA version


Your subject line refers to the new RC version.

Is this problem something new in the latest RC version and did not
exist
in
earlier (RC or otherwise) versions, or does the same problem also
exist

in
older (especially standard release) versions of NVDA?


Antony.

On Monday 04 December 2017 at 11:43:33, Marco Oros wrote:

Hi!

At the first, where can I inform about this thing of NVDA misstakes
of,
for example Espeak NG?

Because I have noticed, that new Mandarin Chinese is badly
pronounced
in
NVDA in that way, that syllable and some kind of number. Maybe, this
is
problem of Espeak NG, but I am not shure.

Nextly, arabic letter meem is pronounced in Espeak, like meetar, but

I
think, that It is incorrect.

Where can I issued those things?

Thank You.

Marco Oros
--
"If I've told you once, I've told you a million times - stop
exaggerating!"

Please reply to the
list;
please
*don't*
CC
me.






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
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Twitter: @NVAccess








Re: How does NVDA read text boxes?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I gave up and asked them to take them out, since nobody I knew no matter what screenreader they used seemed to be able to solve the problem either.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 1:27 PM
Subject: [nvda] How does NVDA read text boxes?


I received a word document that appeared to be blank. Turns out it is a series of 15 text boxes of information. How can I read stinkin' text boxes with NVDA???

Thanks



Re: How does NVDA read text boxes?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes I had terrible trouble in word with supernova and different versions of word seemed to completely screw it up each time as well. I often wondered why when Microsoft was writing a new version, they did not make finding the objects and the things inside them more easy from the screenreader point of view. I did try Jaws once back on XP but found that awful as well.

On the other hand of course, many sighted people find creating and using such presentation items a bit less than intuitive as well. maybe we just don't need them in the first place.
Hides behind sofa.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin O'Sullivan" <osumartin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How does NVDA read text boxes?


Hi Ann

This discussion came up before, at
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/2261984?p=Created,,,20,2,0,0

here is one way of doing it.

This works because,once you are in a text box (or picture or other object)
you can press TAB to move between them.

here is what you need to do.
1 Save the document, to keep any changes you want to keep .
2 Add a text box into a document by pressing alt+n, x, enter
3 Press escape once (so you are out of the text itself but the text box is
still selected),
4 You can press TAB to move between the objects in the document (this wraps
so if you press TAB on the last object in the document it will jump back to
the first object).
5 Remove the text box you just added, by exiting the document without
saving changes.

Text boxes are difficult for a screen reader to access.

You can read the full article at
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/2261984?p=Created,,,20,2,0,0





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On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

I received a word document that appeared to be blank. Turns out it is a
series of 15 text boxes of information. How can I read stinkin' text boxes
with NVDA???

Thanks





Re: efficient reading of messages in Outlook 2016 with NVDA

Mary Otten
 

Hi all,


I just looked at a brief document on the MS website regarding threading of messages in Outlook 2016. It looks complicated. I'm just wondering if there is a way to have conversation view and still get the benefit of efficient message reading. Advantage of conversation view is that if you have a thread that does not interest you, you can get rid of the whole thing at once. But then that would seem to preclude the ability to have a message open, delete it and automatically move to the next message and have it start reading. I guess maybe you can't have it both ways? I'd like to be wrong.


Mary

On 12/5/2017 4:34 PM, Pranav Lal wrote:
Mary,

I used to read e-mail this way when I used to use Window Bridge with Eudora. I no longer use this approach. It is easier to skim message summaries, open the ones I am interested in and then continue. Having said that, configure outlook to move to the next message and try the approach. This is an outlook configuration more than a NVDA configuration. Yes, how much of the e-mail header is read remains to be tested.

Pranav



Re: question re nvaccess site and training materials

 

your welcome, its my pleasure.
i opened shop with my favorite version of firefox (version 51) and the
links work for me.
i have the name of material and aftter each item, i have add to cart link.

On 12/6/17, Mary Otten <maryotten@...> wrote:
Thanks, Shara. I can access the shop; I was jusst curious what might be
happening with firefox to make finding that link not possible. Quite
probably operator error, but I was curious. I have not yet upgraded to
the most recent release of NVDA.


Mary


On 12/6/2017 7:53 AM, zahra wrote:
hi mary.
just copy this link and peist in the address bar, i think it should
work for you.
https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
hope that help, God bless you!

On 12/6/17, Mary Otten <maryotten@...> wrote:
I suppose this is mostly directed at Quenton. My experience with the
access site is that I absolutely can't get to the "shop" link using
firefox esr version, but with IE11, it is easy. Why might that be? I
mean, I can't even find it with the find command when using ff.


also, with regard to the  ebooks for Word and the basic training
materials, what format are those in? I didn't see that mentioned on the
training materials page.


Thanks.


Mary







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best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: question re nvaccess site and training materials

Mary Otten
 

Thanks, Shara. I can access the shop; I was jusst curious what might be happening with firefox to make finding that link not possible. Quite probably operator error, but I was curious. I have not yet upgraded to the most recent release of NVDA.


Mary

On 12/6/2017 7:53 AM, zahra wrote:
hi mary.
just copy this link and peist in the address bar, i think it should
work for you.
https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
hope that help, God bless you!

On 12/6/17, Mary Otten <maryotten@...> wrote:
I suppose this is mostly directed at Quenton. My experience with the
access site is that I absolutely can't get to the "shop" link using
firefox esr version, but with IE11, it is easy. Why might that be? I
mean, I can't even find it with the find command when using ff.


also, with regard to the  ebooks for Word and the basic training
materials, what format are those in? I didn't see that mentioned on the
training materials page.


Thanks.


Mary





Re: question re nvaccess site and training materials

 

hi mary.
just copy this link and peist in the address bar, i think it should
work for you.
https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
hope that help, God bless you!

On 12/6/17, Mary Otten <maryotten@...> wrote:
I suppose this is mostly directed at Quenton. My experience with the
access site is that I absolutely can't get to the "shop" link using
firefox esr version, but with IE11, it is easy. Why might that be? I
mean, I can't even find it with the find command when using ff.


also, with regard to the  ebooks for Word and the basic training
materials, what format are those in? I didn't see that mentioned on the
training materials page.


Thanks.


Mary




--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


question re nvaccess site and training materials

Mary Otten
 

I suppose this is mostly directed at Quenton. My experience with the access site is that I absolutely can't get to the "shop" link using firefox esr version, but with IE11, it is easy. Why might that be? I mean, I can't even find it with the find command when using ff.


also, with regard to the  ebooks for Word and the basic training materials, what format are those in? I didn't see that mentioned on the training materials page.


Thanks.


Mary


Re: How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

Chris
 

No, its supposed to have the .nvda-add-on extension

 

You can try opening nvda settings menu goto tools and select manage add-ons

In the dialog that opens you should have a list of installed add-ons

And several buttons, so if you tab around till you get to the install button , press enter and browse for the zip file and select it and hit enter, it should then install, check in the the add-ons list

Then close and restart nvda

 

 

From: Greg Wocher
Sent: 06 December 2017 14:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

 

Hello,

Here's another question. The file I downloaded is called MozillaScrips-master.zip. Is this what the addon is suppose to be called.

 

Regards,

Greg Wocher

 

On 12/6/2017 9:30 AM, Greg Wocher wrote:

Hello,
I downloaded it from:
https://github.com/javidominguez/mozillascripts
I have downloaded it twice with the same results. When I change the file extension to .nvda-addon I get an error message.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/6/2017 8:03 AM, Gene wrote:

The question says:

Next I tried changing the file extension from .zip to .nvda-addon. When I hit enter on it to install I get an error saying it is missing a file or is in the wrong format.

 

Where was the file downloaded from, the Drop Box account or the web page that was given later? 

 

When something may be corrupted in a download and there is no error message, the first thing that should always be done is to download it again.  Downloads at times aren't correct and there are no error messages.  If the file still can't be run after a second download, maybe others will have more suggestions.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Rui Fontes

Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:24 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

 

Change the .zip extension to .nvda-addon.

 

Rui

 

 

Às 12:14 de 06/12/2017, Greg Wocher escreveu:

Hello all,

    When I download this all I get is a zip file. When I extract it I am not able to find the add on file. Next I tried changing the file extension from .zip to .nvda-addon. When I hit enter on it to install I get an error saying it is missing a file or is in the wrong format. How can I get this add on installed?

 

Thanks,

Greg Wocher

 

 

On 12/5/2017 2:18 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hello!

 

I don't know why this addon is not in the NVDA repository...

 

The address to get it is:

https://github.com/javidominguez/mozillascripts

 

Rui

 

 

Às 16:19 de 05/12/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:

Is there a reason this ad on is not on the official NVDA Adams page?
Mary

 

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On Dec 5, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Hello!

 

Here is the text of documentation.

 

If you have more douts, please say!

 

Mozilla Scripts
add-on that provides NVDA scripts for Mozilla
Firefox
• NVDA+A (desktop) or NVDA+Control+A (laptop) Reads the page address. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+End (desktop) or NVDA+Shift+End (laptop) Reads the status bar. If pressed twice quickly, copies it to clipboard.
• NVDA+F8 Shows a list of opened tabs. If pressed twice quickly, shows buttons of tool bar.
• NVDA+Control+N Reads the last notification and it takes the system focus to it if it is possible. By pressing two times quickly shows the history of notifications.
• NVDA+F6 Brings the focus to the document.
Thunderbird
• In a message window:
◦ Control+Shift+(1-4) Reads the sender and recipients of the message. If pressed twice quickly, opens the options menu.
◦ Control+Shift+5 Reads the subject of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+6 Reads date of the message.
◦ Control+Shift+A Brings the focus to the list of attachments, if any. (These scripts are also available in the list of messages if you activate the preview pane.)
• In the bar of fast filtering:
◦ Press down Arrow to display more options, enter to check/unchek the selected option.
• In messages list:
◦ If the preview pane is active, press NVDA+downArrow (desktop) or NVDA+A (laptop) to read the message without leaving the list.
◦ Control+NVDA+1-9 moves between columns.
◦ NVDA+H Displays a dialog in which you can change the order of the columns in the message list.
Keystrokes can be customized in Preferences of NVDA > Input gestures when Firefox or Thunderbird are open.

 

Rui Fontes

 

 

Às 15:49 de 05/12/2017, Sally Kiebdaj escreveu:

Hello Rui,

could you tell me a bit more about what this add-on does?

Thank you,

Sally

 

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...> wrote:

Hello Gene,

I like the bookmark idea and will probably go with that.

To answer some of your questions:

It seems to be a series of buttons, I think 3 in total. I have only ever heard the last two which say something along the lines of "open login page" and "close this message," respectively.

Using brows mode to navigate by buttons doesn't work as these buttons seem to not be in the main document. It was one of the first strategies I tried.

For now, I think the bookmark option is the simplest solution.

Thank you!

Sally

 

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I don't know anything about the add on someone else sent.  I thought of another solution that might be the easiest.  Go to the login page and make a bookmark.  I can tell you how to use the bookmarks search feature to find it quickly and conveniently so you don't have to worry about where it is in the book marks list.  If it doesn't have a distinctive name, give it one when you save it to make it easy to find with the book marks search feature.  Then open a new page when you want to log in and use the book mark to go directly to the login page.  That may be the best solution.

 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene

Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 9:17 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

 

I doubt it.  When a dialog opens on a web page, NVDA says the word "dialog."  Have you gotten to the alert message or heard its entire text?  On the new page you open, what is this option; is it a link?  Instead of tabbing until you get to it on the new page, use the screen-reader search function and search from the top of the page for the word "open."  See if you can find whatever it is on the page.  If you can't find it, I may find something in firefox that makes finding the alert easier. 

 

Gene

----- original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 8:38 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

 

It calls itself an alert and I do get to it eventually by tabbing. Do you still think it is a dialogue?

Thanks!

Sally

 

On 12/1/2017 9:13 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

This is probably a web dialog. Not a notification. If you install the last release candidate RC 3 of NVDA, then you can find web dialogs by pressing o.

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

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Am 01.12.2017 um 15:00 schrieb Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...>:

Is there a hotkey for the alerts about logging into a wifi network? I am currently in a building where the wifi needs a sign in after 10 minutes of inactivity and I can't figure out how to get to that sign in page quickly and easily. For now, I am opening a new window in firefox and tabbing around until I find the "open login page" option.

 

There must be a better way to do this.....

Thanks!

Sally

 

On 11/30/2017 11:29 AM, Gene wrote:

Do you mean stop redirection notices?  Alt a is announced as the allow command at the end of the announcement.  If you want to turn off the notification completely, I'll write instructions in another message. 

 

To tell Firefox not to offer to remember passwords, do the following.

New main steps start on new lines:

Alt t then o to open options. 

After waiting a moment, tab once.  You are now in a list of categories.

Start down arrowing until you get to security.

If down arrowing stops moving you before you get there, up arrow once then continue down arrowing.

Once you get to security, start tabbing until you get to a checkbox that says something like remember logins.  Uncheck it with the space bar.  You won't be asked any longer.

There is no ok button in this dialog-like structure.  Settings take immediate effect.  This is a web page in the browser and since you are on a web page that mimics a dialog, do whatever you want to do that you would do while on a web page after you change the setting.  That is, go to another page by using a book mark, close the browser, etc.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Mary Otten

Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:59 AM

Subject: [nvda] How to access Firefox notifications with NVDA

 

I am using the extended service release of Firefox on windows 10 machine with the stable release of NVDA. Sometimes Firefox will put up notices, such as when it offers to remember passwords or when it informs you that has blocked a redirection from the site. How can I access these in order to either tell it I don’t want it to save a password or that I do wanted to allow a redirection?
Mary


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